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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:32am On Oct 04, 2022
Theflint1:
Lol...a poll of less than 50 persons and of a certain demographic? grin Besides, the person that conducted the poll is partisan so there's that to consider.

cheesy

LMFAO..... I heard you.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:35am On Oct 04, 2022
Theflint1:
Hehehehe...very possible.

You think Tinubu was foolish for bringing a former Borno Governor in an IDP state? where all the structure favor APC. Abi you wan tell someone in IDP not to sell their vote? when their entire life depend on govt goodwill

Thats why we in the South will shout and argue on Twitter

Tell those faces in the picture not to sell their vote

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:41am On Oct 04, 2022
Theflint1:
Hehehehe...very possible.

Go back historically in 2019

Borno a core IDP state was the state that gave the highest percentage vote to any candidate when it delivered 90% vote to Buhari
Followed by Yobe with 89% to Buhari

Not even Katsina his home state delivered that percentage to Buhari

My friend a PDP politician in one of the SW states was the one who exposed me to it when Tinubu was still debating on who to pick and I was saying he might pick Dogara, He said unless Tinubu is foolish would he ignore Shetimma or Zulum from a State like Borno
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:50am On Oct 04, 2022
raumdeuter:


Go back historically in 2019

Borno a core IDP state was the state that gave the highest percentage vote to any candidate when it delivered 90% vote to Buhari
Followed by Yobe with 89% to Buhari

Not even Katsina his home state delivered that percentage to Buhari

My friend a PDP politician in one of the SW states was the one who exposed me to it when Tinubu was still debating on who to pick and I was saying he might pick Dogara, He said unless Tinubu is foolish would he ignore Shetimma or Zulum from a State like Borno

Even anti Muslim/Muslim Ticket Crusaders know this! They simply want BAT to pick Dogara so he can lule disgracefully in the North.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:51am On Oct 04, 2022
Theflint1:
Fair enough, just think that CAN/Christian factor might spring a surprise. Also, consider most state capitals/cities are spread across 40% of the LGAs in each state.

In Kaduna South for example, when APC released their campaign committee, there was not one person from Kaduna South.

Ask Segedinho he will tell you how they run elections

The Capital is where eyes are, So you will all fight for it fairly but both parties will hold some interior 4 LGA where you will cook properly and release the results later often time last results to be released

Lets use Lagos as an example. In Eti Osa, Ikeja would will fight fairly, you will go tackle your opponent on their turf in Amuwo to reduce the number they are cooking.

Now you will go to Epe or Alimosho or Badagry places where your twitter no go reach that is where you bring the well cooked votes late into the night

In Osun last election for example PDP cooking was in Ede, APC was in Boripe. The cooking APC expected in Ife disappointed and wasn't enough to counter what PDP brought in Ede. That Ede is now looking like they overdid the cooking and might get them in INEC trouble
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:52am On Oct 04, 2022
OasisX:


Even anti Muslim/Muslim Ticket Crusaders know this! They simply want BAT to pick Dogara so he can lule disgracefully in the North.

Its like Chelsea fans urging Man utd to start Maguire

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:55am On Oct 04, 2022
raumdeuter:


Its like Chelsea fans urging Man utd to start Maguire

cheesy

LMFAO..... you're correct.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:57am On Oct 04, 2022
raumdeuter:


Ask Segedinho he will tell you how they run elections

The Capital is where eyes are, So you will all fight for it fairly but both parties will hold some interior 4 LGA where you will cook properly and release the results later often time last results to be released

Lets use Lagos as an example. In Eti Osa, Ikeja would will fight fairly, you will go tackle your opponent on their turf in Amuwo to reduce the number they are cooking.

Now you will go to Epe or Alimosho or Badagry places where your twitter no go reach that is where you bring the well cooked votes late into the night

In Osun last election for example PDP cooking was in Ede, APC was in Boripe. The cooking APC expected in Ife disappointed and wasn't enough to counter what PDP brought in Ede. That Ede is now looking like they overdid the cooking and might get them in INEC trouble

You dey follow the Tribunal, coz you're spot on. PDP Lawyers are boxed to a corner already, hence they are playing delay tactics!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 4:39am On Oct 04, 2022
OasisX:


cheesy

You honestly believe he has a shot in 2023? LMFAO

After BAT, it goes back to North.... your guess is as good as mine.

What now happens to all the APC governors who agreed to Zone presidency to the south. Obviously it's not for nothing. Tinubu would have promised one of them presidency in 2027.

I also don't see Kwakwanso collapsing his structure for BAT. It is almost impossible.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by wman(m): 5:18am On Oct 04, 2022
Like I've been saying for the last few months. If I were Peter Obi, I would focus on the grassroots. I would focus on radio interviews. I would target those Yoruba Iwe Iroyin and BBC Hausa.

Those people are largely ignorant of the Peter Obi movement.

I would do a lot to target the Middle Belt and North Central.

South East is as good as sealed. I would need to expand my core voter base as much as possible.


1 million marches are very important and extremely good for generating offline votes. They do a lot for offline sensitization. Many people hear about the movement for the first time during those marches. They also see and recognize the party logo for the first time.

But 1 million participants in a march isn't equal to 1 million votes.

Less than a third of those that participate in the marches will vote.

Fight like the underdog. Think like the underdog. Leave nothing to chance. Better to be overprepared than underprepared

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TrebleChamp(m): 6:38am On Oct 04, 2022
WhoDeyHause:

Tinubu will win. angry.
grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by akwesenana: 7:28am On Oct 04, 2022
WhoDeyHause:
Tinubu will win. angry.
Oh. Okay.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 7:34am On Oct 04, 2022
raumdeuter:


Ask Segedinho he will tell you how they run elections

The Capital is where eyes are, So you will all fight for it fairly but both parties will hold some interior 4 LGA where you will cook properly and release the results later often time last results to be released

Lets use Lagos as an example. In Eti Osa, Ikeja would will fight fairly, you will go tackle your opponent on their turf in Amuwo to reduce the number they are cooking.

Now you will go to Epe or Alimosho or Badagry places where your twitter no go reach that is where you bring the well cooked votes late into the night

In Osun last election for example PDP cooking was in Ede, APC was in Boripe. The cooking APC expected in Ife disappointed and wasn't enough to counter what PDP brought in Ede. That Ede is now looking like they overdid the cooking and might get them in INEC trouble
Exactly what i told soneone not long ago....i can bet that Obi will win Edo state flawlessly in d urban side but i can't guarantee anything in d core rural settlement cos who is going to protect votes....Moreover those people don't believe in good governance.

It is a straight deal...Money 4 hand,back for ground....

In all,i think Obaseki no send PDP with his antecedent
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 7:34am On Oct 04, 2022
OasisX:


I understand your scepticism but APC have solid, established structures in the North already. The projection is based on states under each party control in the North.

BTW... Mark my word, Kwankwaso gonna collapse his structure with BAT few weeks to the polls. Elections ain't won by rallies on the streets of Benin, Calabr, PH or Lagos, its won at the rural places where only established structures can work in your favour.

Last time Obidients held rally in Osogbo it wasn't felt at other 29 LGs in the State. No one was aware in Ikirun, Ede, Iwo, Ejigbo, Iragbiji and Co.

Forget SM noise, PO Ambition is imPOssible in 2023. He's simply a spoiler, advantageous to APC.
If kwankwaso is going to collapse his structure it may be for atiku again like in 2019. He also wouldn't want to drop his pride for ganduje but I don't think he will even do any of that.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by WhoDeyHause: 7:43am On Oct 04, 2022
wman:
Like I've been saying for the last few months. If I were Peter Obi, I would focus on the grassroots. I would focus on radio interviews. I would target those Yoruba Iwe Iroyin and BBC Hausa.

Those people are largely ignorant of the Peter Obi movement.

I would do a lot to target the Middle Belt and North Central.

South East is as good as sealed. I would need to expand my core voter base as much as possible.


1 million marches are very important and extremely good for generating offline votes. They do a lot for offline sensitization. Many people hear about the movement for the first time during those marches. They also see and recognize the party logo for the first time.

But 1 million participants in a march isn't equal to 1 million votes.

Less than a third of those that participate in the marches will vote.

Fight like the underdog. Think like the underdog. Leave nothing to chance. Better to be overprepared than underprepared
What about the money to share for stomach infastructure knowing this is nigeria? If he wanted to do this he would have decamped to lp very early before the weeks near primaries to start it but maybe he might not have had his social media popularity like now even though that's not what wins elections in the bush.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 8:01am On Oct 04, 2022
Theflint1:
Lagos - APC 58%, LP 30%, PDP 12%
Edo - APC 15%, LP 60%, PDP 25%
Bayelsa - APC 10%, LP 30%, PDP 60%
Rivers - APC 12%, LP 60%, PDP 28%
Delta - APC 9%, LP 40%, PDP 41%
C/Rivers- APC 8%, LP 58%, PDP 34%
A/Ibom - APC 13%, LP 33%, PDP 54%
S/East - APC 9%, LP 71%, PDP 20%
Abuja - APC 25%, LP 35%, PDP 40%

Other North Central States, can't say precisely, but expect LP to get 25% in most, APC will win some, PDP will win some, don't see LP winning any.

I can't speak much on N/E and N/W states, but I expect Atiku to make a good showing in most. APC will do well too, but vote sharing go plenty. Other than Kano, don't see NNPP winning any other state, and it won't be by much. NNPP would get votes in other Northern states sha.

South West states other than Lagos, APC will get up to 60% on average, LP and PDP go get like 15% and 25% on average, respectively.

PDP will easily get 24/36.


APC will get more than what you have given them in Edo and Cross River and you are really overrating LP in the SS. How will APC that has structure and even won Bayelsa Governorship election get 10% and LP will get 30%? Haba

LP will get 40% in Delta that has Okowa as Governor and the Vice Presidential candidate of PDP? Haba grin

No opposition candidate will get 25% in the SW apart from Lagos.

In the NC, LP wont get 25% in Kwara, Niger and Nassarawa.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amoto94(m): 8:25am On Oct 04, 2022
larride:


APC will get more than what you have given them in Edo and Cross River and you are really overrating LP in the SS. How will APC that has structure and even won Bayelsa Governorship election get 10% and LP will get 30%? Haba

LP will get 40% in Delta that has Okowa as Governor and the Vice Presidential candidate of PDP? Haba grin

No opposition candidate will get 25% in the SW apart from Lagos.

In the NC, LP wont get 25% in Kwara, Niger and Nassarawa.
Add Kogi to it, it's a battle between APC and PDP in Kogi
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by wman(m): 8:59am On Oct 04, 2022
larride:


APC will get more than what you have given them in Edo and Cross River and you are really overrating LP in the SS. How will APC that has structure and even won Bayelsa Governorship election get 10% and LP will get 30%? Haba

LP will get 40% in Delta that has Okowa as Governor and the Vice Presidential candidate of PDP? Haba grin

No opposition candidate will get 25% in the SW apart from Lagos.

In the NC, LP wont get 25% in Kwara, Niger and Nassarawa.

PDP can get 25% in Oyo and Ekiti

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 9:02am On Oct 04, 2022
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:09am On Oct 04, 2022
Theflint1:
https://twitter.com/GRVLagosMedia/status/1577020861449900032?t=i1kF_TTk0KlWdb2qVnqIDQ&s=19

@

That is the place BlueRayDick said touts used to sit and drink .

Does that look like a place where people can attack someone and even pour fuel to burn?

I Don let the matter rest sha. Maybe na true
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 9:11am On Oct 04, 2022
wman:


PDP can get 25% in Oyo and Ekiti

PDP can get 25% in Oyo. Very slim possibility. They won't get it in Ekiti.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 9:26am On Oct 04, 2022
izzou:


That is the place BlueRayDick said touts used to sit and drink .

Does that look like a place where people can attack someone and even pour fuel to burn?

I Don let the matter rest sha. Maybe na true

When I'm chanced, I will take pictures of the exact place I'm referring to and post it here.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:27am On Oct 04, 2022
BlueRayDick:


When I'm chanced, I will take pictures of the exact place I'm referring to and post it here.

Okay
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:27am On Oct 04, 2022
izzou:


That is the place BlueRayDick said touts used to sit and drink .

Does that look like a place where people can attack someone and even pour fuel to burn?

I Don let the matter rest sha. Maybe na true

i first read this as " That is the place BlueRayDick and touts used to sit and drink" grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:27am On Oct 04, 2022
GloriousGbola:


i first read this as " That is the place BlueRayDick and touts used to sit and drink" grin

grin grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Gboy1026: 9:38am On Oct 04, 2022
larride:


APC will get more than what you have given them in Edo and Cross River and you are really overrating LP in the SS. How will APC that has structure and even won Bayelsa Governorship election get 10% and LP will get 30%? Haba

LP will get 40% in Delta that has Okowa as Governor and the Vice Presidential candidate of PDP? Haba grin

No opposition candidate will get 25% in the SW apart from Lagos.

In the NC, LP wont get 25% in Kwara, Niger and Nassarawa.
That Delta own self is just a dream. The only area u hear anything about lp is Asaba which is due to the closeness to Onitsha, here in Gbamaturu and other creek areas that usually delivery the kkk kind of votes na PDP Dem know. With okowa now contesting how will Delta north vote lp and leave okowa
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 9:55am On Oct 04, 2022
chrisooblog:
I have a small advice for the Obi movement. I presume your camp is made up of very smart, urbane and modern individuals. Why can't the brilliant experts amongst you come up with alternative ideas, plans and manifestos for free and give to your candidate which he will use in his interviews and debates?

This will help to make him look like someone offering concrete solutions to Nigeria's problem. The Obidient movements projects itself as young and intelligent, well this is where you can put your money where your mouth is. Choose geniuses amongst yourselves to volunteer and provide concrete long term and short term solutions.

This in my opinion will stand you out for your candidate rather than engaging in online fights that will not translate to any real votes, but only strengthen the resolve of your opponents.
I have said it before that the movement have been hijacked by the miscreants amongst them...

They're very sound supporters of Obi but you can hardly hear them because the unintelligent ones are leading the fight...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by patrickmuf(m): 10:09am On Oct 04, 2022
Theflint1:
Lagos - APC 58%, LP 30%, PDP 12%
Edo - APC 15%, LP 60%, PDP 25%
Bayelsa - APC 10%, LP 30%, PDP 60%
Rivers - APC 12%, LP 60%, PDP 28%
Delta - APC 9%, LP 40%, PDP 41%
C/Rivers- APC 8%, LP 58%, PDP 34%
A/Ibom - APC 13%, LP 33%, PDP 54%
S/East - APC 9%, LP 71%, PDP 20%
Abuja - APC 25%, LP 35%, PDP 40%

Other North Central States, can't say precisely, but expect LP to get 25% in most, APC will win some, PDP will win some, don't see LP winning any.

I can't speak much on N/E and N/W states, but I expect Atiku to make a good showing in most. APC will do well too, but vote sharing go plenty. Other than Kano, don't see NNPP winning any other state, and it won't be by much. NNPP would get votes in other Northern states sha.

South West states other than Lagos, APC will get up to 60% on average, LP and PDP go get like 15% and 25% on average, respectively.

PDP will easily get 24/36.

Cross River? Ayade will be on the ballot for Senate (Cross River North) as will Jude Ngaji for House of Reps (Ogoja/Yala Fed Constituency) and Legor Idagor for reps representing Obanliku/Obudu/Bekwara Fed Constituency...Legor is going for his third tenure while Jude is hoping to start his own 4 years after being elected into the HoR to complete Jarigbe's tenure...The above is for Cross River North...

In the Central Sen. district, the current speaker of the Cross River HoA is flying the flag of the APC for the senatorial race...

In Cross River South, you have the popular Sen. Prince Otu as the Governorship candidate of the APC...

In Cross River, Donald Duke from the South did 8 years then Liyel from the Central did 8 years and Ayade is on the verge of completing 8 years for the North. Power is supposed to return to the South is the unwritten principle of rotation of power is to be followed but the PDp via the influence of Wike gave the ticket to a man from the Central Senatorial district, Sen. Sandy Onor who is Wike’s friend against other contestants from the South including Liyel's choice, Sen.Gershom Bassey...

The APC is not loved in Cross River but the choices of the PDP have made the APC gain serious momentum...

Now tell me, how will a party that will have 2 HoRs member on the ballot and an incumbent Governor vying for Senate in just one senatorial district pull just 8% of votes?

I don't want to talk about Cross River Central and Cross River South Senatorial district...No dey talk wetin you no know...

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DeadPresidents: 11:35am On Oct 04, 2022
About projections, I can only talk about places I have ties with. For my background, I will give a brief intro.

I hail from Kogi state but I was born and lived in Kaduna for 17 years of my life. I schooled in Rivers state (University of Port-Harcourt) and lived there for a bit before moving down to Lagos to work and live. My next port of call is Berlin, Germany

Kaduna is a highly stratified state. The street where I lived had almost no Hausa people but there was a decent representation of all other ethnicities. The majority of my hood is voting Obi and the Yoruba block within my hood is aligning with City Boy with a minority voting Obi.

From interacting with the Malo guys, the consensus is virtually unilateral—Atiku gets most of the votes with Kwankwaso bagging a straggling proportion.

I'm projecting something like PDP 60%, LP 30%, APC 10%

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:09pm On Oct 04, 2022
The problem is you think a party having candidates in a particular state means they have influence in said state. Ben Ayade is more or less a pariah in C/Rivers but you think him contesting for senate will somehow translate to Tinubu getting votes in Cross Rivers. The prince Otu you mentioned, from what I hear is not popular outside of Calabar and will lose to Sandy Onor (PDPs candidate) in North and Central.

PDP had HOR/Senate and governorship candidates in states up North in 2015 during Jonathan's era, but that didn't stop them from getting under 20% in lots of NW/NE states.

So by you reasoning Donald Duke not backing Atiku means the votes automatically will go to Tinubu cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

APC having candidates in C/Rivers will not influence anything come presidential elections. Most PDP members/average Cross River indege are Obidients or indifferent for federal, dem no send Atiku and certainly, no send Tinubu/APC.
patrickmuf:
Cross River? Ayade will be on the ballot for Senate (Cross River North) as will Jude Ngaji for House of Reps (Ogoja/Yala Fed Constituency) and Legor Idagor for reps representing Obanliku/Obudu/Bekwara Fed Constituency...Legor is going for his third tenure while Jude is hoping to start his own 4 years after being elected into the HoR to complete Jarigbe's tenure...The above is for Cross River North...

In the Central Sen. district, the current speaker of the Cross River HoA is flying the flag of the APC for the senatorial race...

In Cross River South, you have the popular Sen. Prince Otu as the Governorship candidate of the APC...

In Cross River, Donald Duke from the South did 8 years then Liyel from the Central did 8 years and Ayade is on the verge of completing 8 years for the North. Power is supposed to return to the South is the unwritten principle of rotation of power is to be followed but the PDp via the influence of Wike gave the ticket to a man from the Central Senatorial district, Sen. Sandy Onor who is Wike’s friend against other contestants from the South including Liyel's choice, Sen.Gershom Bassey...

The APC is not loved in Cross River but the choices of the PDP have made the APC gain serious momentum...

Now tell me, how will a party that will have 2 HoRs member on the ballot and an incumbent Governor vying for Senate in just one senatorial district pull just 8% of votes?

I don't want to talk about Cross River Central and Cross River South Senatorial district...No dey talk wetin you no know...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:19pm On Oct 04, 2022
Theflint1

Please when you quote someone, respond under the quote, not above it.

You dey stress my brain cells. Abeg
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:20pm On Oct 04, 2022
Bro, even if APC gets every single vote from Edo North (the smallest senatorial district), Oshiomhole's stronghold, they still won't get 25% from Edo State. 2020 governorship elections, Obaseki got almost 40% of the votes from that same Edo North cheesy cheesy cheesy

Edo South (the largest senatorial district with over 50% of votes) is largely Obidient. Edo Central na normally PDP stronghold, they've won Edo Central consistently, any and every election...I dunno by how much they'd win Edo Central this time around but LP might make some inroads there. Forget Edo State for APC, they won't smell 25% in Edo State.

Okowa is not a popular candidate in Delta where he's from, and a state having a candidate on the ballot does not automatically translate to huge dominance...PDP with Atiku won Adamawa only marginally in 2019, so go figure. Okowa is not popular outside Asaba and environs, and Peter Obi being Igbo will count for something even in that zone. Other parts of Delta, dem don cook breakfast wait Okowa cheesy cheesy cheesy. APC won't get 25% in Delta obviously, and na the koko be that.

I expect Bayelsa to respond to APC for 2015 this time around...dunno how Jonathan will move, but expect he'd stay neutral. A popular candidate using the platform of a national party to contest elections does not translate to influence in said state.

I agree with you on those projections for North Central.


larride:


APC will get more than what you have given them in Edo and Cross River and you are really overrating LP in the SS. How will APC that has structure and even won Bayelsa Governorship election get 10% and LP will get 30%? Haba

LP will get 40% in Delta that has Okowa as Governor and the Vice Presidential candidate of PDP? Haba grin

No opposition candidate will get 25% in the SW apart from Lagos.

In the NC, LP wont get 25% in Kwara, Niger and Nassarawa.

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