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Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 10:47am On Oct 04, 2022 |
paxonel: You too have been brainwashed. So, this thing call brainwashing is real that even if evidences proves otherwise, you will hold on to lies. Answer this question, the wailing and gnashing of teeth that Jesus says those in hell is also parable? A fire that will never quench is also parable. They will be tormented day and night is also parable? I never believed that people could be so brainwashed that they can reason straight anymore. It also means heaven is not real. Heaven is a parable. Very soon, you will say that Jesus is a parable. 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 10:53am On Oct 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Read the scripture verse again. It says; "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the BEAST AND THE FALSE PROPHET ARE, and shall be TORMENTED DAY and NIGHT FOR EVER AND EVER." (Revelation 20:10). It states clearly that the torment will be night and day. It added that it will be forever. But you teach otherwise. This is why I say Jehovah Witness is an anti Christ organization. They oppose every truth of God's word. Come out from among them lest you be condemned with them. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:52pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Sodom and Gomorrah has been destroyed for more than 4,000 years now but when the name of those cities are mentioned everyone remembers how God rained fire from heaven to consume the cities as if the rain of fire is still falling. That's what torment forever and ever symbolises! |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 2:27pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: The scripture says that Sodom and Gomorrah are still suffering; Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, SUFFERING the vengeance of ETERNAL FIRE. I hope you read English in school. The word suffering is a present continuous term. It didn't say suffered which is past tense but it said, suffering, which is present continuous term. And it added, eternal fire. It means they are in hell burning. The physical fire that burnt their physical body is no longer burning. But their soul is suffering in eternal fire. I know that you will still find a way to explain it out. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:28pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:So are you saying those people has been judged before the judgment day so there's no resurrection for them? 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by paxonel(m): 7:53pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:did you read the part that Jesus asked his disciples if they had understood what he was saying to them and they said yes, they understood? Matthew 15:31 I doubt that the disciples understood what he was saying, because everything he said there were not spoken literally, they were parables.. It was after this resurrection that Jesus literally expanciated to his disciples all he was saying, that every events that preceded his crucixion were already spoken by Moses and all the prophets, then they began to recall and understood all these things he was saying in parables Matthew 24:27 the wailing and gnashing of teeth there literally implies that there will be separation in the last day or end time(that is, the time of Jesus crucixion. Act 2;17), some people will be separated to become Christians after Christ resurrection(remember, Jesus resurrection brought about Christianity today) while some will not be selected. Those that will not be selected will wail and gnash their teeth, it's as simple as that. it is, my brother! Revelation described it as Lake of fire. To interprete what that Lake of fire is, it simply called it THE SECOND DEATH. Revelation 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. The parable term is lake of fire or hell fire. It literal meaning is simply death or the second death That means, the individual will never come back to life again, because Adam and Eve sinned from the beginning and death came, so did Christ died and brought back eternal life that was lost as a result of Adam and Eve's disobedience it is now! Look at it again, Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. That torment is simply death in the real sense ,the second death. you never thought that religion could brainwash you all these while? Have you ever asked yourself why they say religion is the opium of the people, do you know the meaning of the word opium? Heaven is simply people on earth in the real sense. Believers! you had better create time, calm down and read your bible from Genesis to revelation and understand everything for yourself. Leave religion. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Janosky: 8:01pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Hellfire GIBBERISH done confuse that low budget pastorpreneur. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Janosky: 8:14pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Why does Ken teach a doctrine Jesus Christ NEVER taught? Luke 17:26-29, Jesus Christ doctrine: “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. [/b]27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day [b]Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all. 28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all." Luke 17:26-29,Did Jesus Christ EVER speak of Sodom/Gomorrah eternal torture in the holy scriptures? No ! Luke 17:26-29, Jesus Christ doctrine : "just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man." Did Jesus Christ say souls of Evildoers of Noah's day & Sodom Gomorrah are tortured forever? No ! |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
Janosky:The boy is like: 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Janosky: 8:46pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:At no time in the holy scriptures,did Jesus Christ EVER say hellfire. Rather Jesus Christ said "Gehenna" which Christendom changed to "hellfire" . Gehenna is a place of destruction not eternal torture. No 3 to 7,na Christendom FALSE interpretation. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 8:50pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
Janosky: What about instances he said, fire, furnace or fire and Everlasting fire? |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 8:52pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
Janosky: But you just read Jude 7 that affirms they are suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. You want to cut that off from the Bible? And if Sodom and Gomorrah were completely destroyed, how come they will appear again on the day of judgment? |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 9:07pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
paxonel: Trying hard to defend lies at the expense of your soul. Deep within you know that you are lying. So, when Jesus narrated the events of the last days in Matthew 24, it was also a parable. He predicted the destruction of Jerusalem which took place literally in AD 70. And you have been made to believe that all that Jesus taught or said was parable. Don't worry, demons will use you for parable after you die. I just wished I will be there to supervise your punishment. You see clear truth with clear illustrations of what will become of lost souls, you call it a parable. I just pity the gullible souls who have been held captive by your false teachings. I am shocked at your pride. Why not admit you are wrong and be the hero to rescue innocent souls from your evil cult. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 9:24pm On Oct 04, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: They will be released for final judgment. This is why the scripture says that hell gave up those who were in them. Read the full narration below; Revelation 20:11-15 11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. 13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and HELL DELIVERED UP THE DEAD WHICH WERE IN THEM: and THEY WERE JUDGED every man according to their works. note 14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Hell is the cell where they are kept awaiting trial or final judgment. The Lake of Fire is the prison. The same thing happens on earth. When you are arrested, some people are detained in cells. After judgment they are sent to the prisons. The only difference is that once you are in hell, you don't stand the chance of being discharged on the final judgment day. God will only present evidences against you to justify your punishment. This is why the passage above says that books will be opened. These are books of records of your works while on earth. The other books that will be opened are the books of the Bible. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by paxonel(m): 12:14am On Oct 05, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:it is done to you now that you have been deceived by religion all the while and you are heart broken. you don't just claim that someone is dying, prove to them that they are lying not all statements in Matthew 24 were parable, infact most of the statements were literally spoken. When you come across a scripture that is a parable, you should be able to know that it is a parable because it contains elements of myths, characters that are not real that need to be interpreted can you please specify the exact scripture? No, I didn't say all, don't generalise this is statement of hatred now, you should know better like what,specify please? You know the problem of most of you Christians who were suppose to represent Christ appropriately? You say things without verification, that isn't good for you. And when someone counter your claims you begin to wish bad things to happen to the person, it doesn't work that way. see, point out exactly where I'm wrong and i will show you other proofs! Scriptures are contextual, if i tell you that end time was the era where Jesus was crucified then, i have several scriptures to prove that and these scriptures complement one another, no lies. If i tell that certain statements in the bible are parables. Look at those statements you will see elements of myths or unreal characters that need to be interpreted. For instance, they will be tormented day and night with unquenchable fire. Have you ever seen an unquenchable fire before? The answer is no! Therefore, unquenchable fire is not real phenomenon but it is used to depict something else that is real. You are not a child here Not all parables in the bible come with outright interpretation you should know that |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:22am On Oct 05, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Do your ancestors worship Jesus? If not where are they now? |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 9:48am On Oct 05, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: For those who never had the opportunity to hear the gospel, God will judge them by the law he placed in their conscience. Whether you are a Christian or not, there is a conscience in every man that let you know good from bad. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:49am On Oct 05, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:So they will be ushered to heaven without believing in Jesus shey? 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 10:54am On Oct 05, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: God is the judge. Be concerned about yourself. 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:29pm On Oct 05, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:That's why you need more understanding instead of telling people that they're going to some stupid hellfire! 2 Likes |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 3:55pm On Oct 05, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You are calling the Bible stupid and also Jesus. I didn't introduce the subject. It is very clear in the Bible. You are the one calling it what it is not because you have been indoctrinated and brainwashed by that wicked leader, Russell who is in hell suffering from his false teachings. Don't worry, when you join him, you will curse the day you became a Jehovah Witness. You are truly beyond redemption. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:01pm On Oct 05, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: I thought you typed this: Ken4Christ: Ọmọ you're the most stupid Nairalander! 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 10:53pm On Oct 05, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Those who don't believe in Jesus are already condemned. Jesus said so; John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but HE THAT BELIEVETH NOT IS CONDEMNED already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Even the book of Revelation says; Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. You do not believe in Jesus. You do not believe his words. So, you are judged already unless you repent. Just as Jesus said; Luke 13:3 I tell you, Nay: but, EXCEPT YE REPENT, ye shall all likewise perish. You turn the truth of God's word into a lie just to defend your useless cult that adds no value to your life. Only deceits. Must you win an argument at the detriment of your soul.? Is there a trophy for winning an argument? You made the statement of Jesus look stupid. He tells you how a rich man who despised Lazarus ended up in hell, you call it a parable. Is Jesus drunk to have imagined what does not exist and use it as a parable? He said people will weep and gnash their teeth in pains, you say it is not literal. So, you are the one to decide what is literal and what is not? Why not accept the truth of God's word and stop defending your lies. You should thank me for trying to help you from that horrible pit. How many Nairalander cares about you or have tried to be as persuasive on this subject? Jesus took one of her daughters to visit hell for 40 nights to warn us of its reality, you say it is story. I proved to you that Jonah also went to hell, you don't believe. Even Jesus went to hell for your sake, you don't believe. Apostle Paul wrote; Ephesians 4:8 (Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also DESCENDED FIRST INTO THE LOWER PARTS OF THE EARTH? The tomb Jesus was buried is certainly not the lower part of the earth. Even, Apostle Peter wrote; 1st Peter 3:18-19 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also HE WENT AND PREACHED UNTO THE SPIRITS IN PRISON. How could he have preached to spirits in the prison if he was only a lifeless body. In the book of Revelation, Jesus said: Revelation 1:18 I am he that liveth, and was dead; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. How did he collect the key of hell and of death from the devil if he didn't go there. It was in hell he defeated the devil. I could go on and on. The choice is yours. Don't lose your sense of reasoning. You should know by now that you were taught lies. And you have to use lies to cover lies. But the lies can't stand the test of the Scripture. Please, repent and God will have mercy on you. And let God use you to bring others out from that cult. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:50am On Oct 06, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: You don't believe in Jesus at all, Satan has blinded you with lies instead of the Good News of God's Kingdom you're anticipating torture for your enemies! 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 8:52am On Oct 06, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't know God. If you know him, you will fear him and believe the scripture. You are so full of unbelief because you have been brainwashed to think that God does not punish anyone or can not use fire to torment anyone. But the scripture teaches otherwise. The writer of Hebrews says; Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire. In another place, it is written; Hebrews 10:31. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God. A little disobedience could attracts God's judgment. Remember what happened to the first man, Adam. What about the first world that was destroyed with flood? Only one family of eight people survived. What about the fire he rained down on Sodom and Gomorrah? Was the fire he rained on Sodom and Gomorrah literal or not? If it was literal, who says he can't use literal fire to punish people? Just show me one scripture that says God can't use or don't use fire to torment. Rather, there are several scripture that affirms he tortures with fire. But, your deceptive teachings say otherwise. This is a trick of the devil to get more people into hell fire. Remember his dealings with the children of Israel. They died in their thousands. You are completely incurable. You just can reason straight anymore. Russell is indeed an agent of darkness. Because of him, so many are lured into hell. And you one of his captive. 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:30am On Oct 06, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: The wages of sin is DEATH {Romans 6:23} and death means non-existence no feeling! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 10:28am On Oct 06, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: And your blindness remains. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:06am On Oct 06, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:Exactly what the scriptures say about people like you who argue blindly! 2 Likes |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Janosky: 1:00am On Oct 07, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: Ken, you made a FALSE claim. Did you read our quote of 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 & Romans 6:23 on this thread? Did Jesus Christ doctrine teach that fire is torturing inhabitants of Sodom and Gomorrah at this time? Oga, you are doing yourself. Ken4Christ:You quote scriptures you don't understand it's meaning and you are too pompous to learn,study and get understanding Ken4Christ: Genesis 3:19, Pastor what happened to the first man Adam? Is God torturing him now? Ken4Christ: Is God torturing them today , according to your hellfire claim? Ken4Christ:At this very hour,is fire from heaven torturing those Evildoers of Sodom Gomorrah? Pastor FAILED to listen to Jesus Christ,@ Luke 17:26-30.. Ken4Christ: [b] Pastor's desperate attempt to ROPE his perpetual torture claim with destruction/death of Evildoers, this is Pastor's GIBBERISH Perpetual torture pastor's doctrine is NOT in anyway similar to Jesus doctrine of Luke 17:26-30,destruction of Evildoers. Point of Emphasis, according to scriptures. Let me quote pastor':Remember his dealings with the children of Israel. They died in their thousands. Pastor,is the Israelites still perpetually & forever torture in their thousands at this hour? Pastor said: You are completely incurable. You just can reason straight anymore. Luke 17:26-30, the same statement Jesus Christ would say to the pastor Ken 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Ken4Christ: 2:02pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Janosky: You are jogging slowly to the very hell you do not believe exist. Satan is waiting to receive your soul. |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Piptocoin: 2:17pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: if this is not deliberate and mindless distortion of the scriptures I don't know what else to call it. 1 Like |
Re: 25 Times Jesus Warned Us About Hell As A Place Of Punishment For Lost Souls. by Piptocoin: 2:28pm On Oct 07, 2022 |
Ken4Christ: while I agree with the things you have said I should let you know that true preaching is not engaging in argument with unbelievers. it is enough that they have heard the Gospel once. your job is done. whatever they do with the Gospel is now left to the Holy Spirit to convict them of their sins or error of their beliefs and repent. we are not called to convince people of the reality of heaven and hell. we are only called to spread the truth which you have done. the argument is so unnecessary...biblically speaking. |
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