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Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by MondayOsunbor(m): 8:07am On Oct 07, 2022
God1000:
Hmm, this looks like damage control

lol the audio is too detail to be fake

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Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by donprinyo(m): 8:14am On Oct 07, 2022
Keep on deceiving them.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 8:18am On Oct 07, 2022
Tejuri:


In my opinion I don’t think the ban on importation of turkey and rice was a bad idea in itself, the implementation was the problem. I remember still seeing foreign rice in the market while foreign rice was banned, I am talking about many many months after the ban came into effect so we cant say it was the foreign rice already in the country that they where selling. Everyone knows Turkey is still smuggled in anyway, many governments before Buhari has banned it and it still came in. The Nigerian Customs service is a very corrupt organization so that is why many of these policies fail IMHO. But now saying remove forex and import restrictions? No matter how you look at it, whatever rice in price of goods we are seeing now will be childs play compared to what will happen if those restrictions are lifted. The solution is to ensure proper compliance to those policies, anything we can make in Nigeria should not be allowed into the country, most especially not with forex gotten from the CBN. If imported rice gets too expensive, people will eat the Nigerian processed once, it looks like a painful process but that is how self reliance work, it is a painful process. We want the country to work but we want it easy. Processing rice is not rocket science, if importers see they can make more money buying local rice and processing here they will take that route. Even the local rice will be expensive at first but eventually more people will go into it, competition lowers prices, and in the end everyone will be happy.
When we are shouting we want a better country, we should know a lot of pains comes with it.
Most people today are shouting remove fuel subsidy, the way you complain about the price of rice is how they will complain about the price of fuel. Nobody want die, but dem want go heaven.

You mentioned the government policy on containers and trucks when importing, I don’t have a lot of knowledge on that so I can’t say much on it.
Oga nawaoooo haba...

Are u not seeing graduation pictures of our leaders with their children in Cambridge, havard, foreign countries, medical tourism....
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by nedekid: 8:22am On Oct 07, 2022
Tejuri:


In my opinion I don’t think the ban on importation of turkey and rice was a bad idea in itself, the implementation was the problem. I remember still seeing foreign rice in the market while foreign rice was banned, I am talking about many many months after the ban came into effect so we cant say it was the foreign rice already in the country that they where selling. Everyone knows Turkey is still smuggled in anyway, many governments before Buhari has banned it and it still came in. The Nigerian Customs service is a very corrupt organization so that is why many of these policies fail IMHO. But now saying remove forex and import restrictions? No matter how you look at it, whatever rice in price of goods we are seeing now will be childs play compared to what will happen if those restrictions are lifted. The solution is to ensure proper compliance to those policies, anything we can make in Nigeria should not be allowed into the country, most especially not with forex gotten from the CBN. If imported rice gets too expensive, people will eat the Nigerian processed once, it looks like a painful process but that is how self reliance work, it is a painful process. We want the country to work but we want it easy. Processing rice is not rocket science, if importers see they can make more money buying local rice and processing here they will take that route. Even the local rice will be expensive at first but eventually more people will go into it, competition lowers prices, and in the end everyone will be happy.
When we are shouting we want a better country, we should know a lot of pains comes with it.
Most people today are shouting remove fuel subsidy, the way you complain about the price of rice is how they will complain about the price of fuel. Nobody want die, but dem want go heaven.

You mentioned the government policy on containers and trucks when importing, I don’t have a lot of knowledge on that so I can’t say much on it.
Well said, but my point is that we have been doing things same way and getting same results. We should try some other way to see if there will be improvement. We have not gotten the full details of his plan, just the sensational part was picked. Don't forget Obi has operated businesses at the highest level, home and abroad. From international to local trading, also the financial industry.
On the financial sector ran 2 banks including the current fidelity bank, chairman of charms Ltd and so many other blue chip companies. He certainly is not a green horn.
Finally, fx and economic has to do to an extent with "confidence". People's trust in financial management. If people know they can have acess to forex to do their business or personal use when needed, there is less demand and pressure on the naira. Eg, currently, anyone that has reasonable cash at hand, because of perceived fx hoarding, goes to the parralell market and changes the money to forex and keeps, at home or in dom accounts. People have even started loosing faith in dom accounts and rather transferring to foreign accounts for savings!
Maybe once confidence is restored interms of availability, naira will stabilize, that might be his strategy. Of course, the regular import ban on certain goods remain to avoid the country being a dumping ground.

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Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Conrod: 8:27am On Oct 07, 2022
luizpippo:



With all the ban by PMB, where are the dollars?
The one million dollars question.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Jogs1900: 8:27am On Oct 07, 2022
N3TRAL:
A voice note isn't my problem.

My problem is that a presidential candidate wants to remove import restrictions in Nigeria.

Like what the Bleep?

Within 2 months of such stupid policy the dollar reserve in the central bank will be empty.

Millions of employees will lose their jobs.

Even people that produce biscuit will close their factories.

It's scary in this e-commerce era where I can order for 1 million crates of eggs abroad, 200,000 cartons of frozen chicken online, and throw poultry farmers into joblessness.

Nigeria will suffer the worst balance of payment deficit ever known to humanity.

Wow. Just wow!


The thing surprise me too oo..
I keep on telling people that the fact that this man a philosophy graduate became a Chairman of a bank doesn't make him a financial expert...A ssce holder can be a Chairman of a bank if the shareholders vote for him...It clearly shows he knows nothing about finance....Imagine saving 70bn in his administration when most Nigerians depend on government patronage before they can feed...If state like Lagos,Rivers and Kano including the federal government tries that,the economy will collapse within weeks..
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Papichulostunne(m): 8:39am On Oct 07, 2022
My only question is them get each other number? If yes i have done my own factcheck. The call fo through that day.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by NOETHNICITY(m): 8:44am On Oct 07, 2022
N3TRAL:
A voice note isn't my problem.

My problem is that a presidential candidate wants to remove import restrictions in Nigeria.

Like what the Bleep?

Within 2 months of such stupid policy the dollar reserve in the central bank will be empty.

Millions of employees will lose their jobs.

Even people that produce biscuit will close their factories.

It's scary in this e-commerce era where I can order for 1 million crates of eggs abroad, 200,000 cartons of frozen chicken online, and throw poultry farmers into joblessness.

Nigeria will suffer the worst balance of payment deficit ever known to humanity.

Wow. Just wow!


It is becoming clearer that Obi has nothing to offer. Nothing.
Obi may eventually deny that he didn’t mean it that way
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by UdehN(m): 9:01am On Oct 07, 2022
liars it's not fake
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Verysmart101: 9:24am On Oct 07, 2022
N3TRAL:
A voice note isn't my problem.

My problem is that a presidential candidate wants to remove import restrictions in Nigeria.

Like what the Bleep?

Within 2 months of such stupid policy the dollar reserve in the central bank will be empty.

Millions of employees will lose their jobs.

Even people that produce biscuit will close their factories.

It's scary in this e-commerce era where I can order for 1 million crates of eggs abroad, 200,000 cartons of frozen chicken online, and throw poultry farmers into joblessness.

Nigeria will suffer the worst balance of payment deficit ever known to humanity.

Wow. Just wow!


And ur current party in power that restricted everything yet we are still borrowing,there is super hyper inflation ranging from 300-500%. Does this show u know the nonsense u are writing?

Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Bigchristo: 9:48am On Oct 07, 2022
LastProphet:


Is actually those old goats like buharis and gang that are the problem. What does the rest on Nigeria actually gain from Biafra? Why force someone to marry you if you're not their choice? At least one thing Nigeria would have clearly gained is a passport that's not quickly suspected of fraud and cocaine when you travel out but the old goats mostly in tynorth think Biafra must be part of Nigeria for Nigeria to be great.
In Nigeria agitation is like act of terrorism in the eyes of government because they don’t engage in fixing the country for it to be better and enabling environment for everyone, the first motives of an average Nigerian politicians is to loot public money and divert it for personal use, no agenda of fixing the country but when people starts agitating to leave the country they will deploy military airforce navy even DSS and police to combat such group of people, imagine Nigeria government proscribing IPOB to be terrorist group and struggle to admit that Killer Fulani herdsmen and Bokoharam are terrorist, see let’s leave this matter for matayas n focus on electing competent hands into government to fix the country, I keep asking people when Goodluck Jonathan was in power did we hear anything like agitation? Na bad government Dey always spark up such thing because Canadians and other good countries around the world won’t think of breaking out of their country.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by TheGift: 10:49am On Oct 07, 2022
God1000:
Hmm, this looks like damage control

Seriously , after the logical explanation that it cannot be them? I don't support Shettima but let's let reason prevail.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Tejuri(m): 10:52am On Oct 07, 2022
VeeVeeMyLuv:

Lately some people have been using these particular sets of excuses in the bolded to defend and justify the suffering economic hardship in Nigeria. No b me ask them to dey born born plenty pikin they cannot properly plan for, take care of and engage productively. Are they more religious than the originators (whose birth rate has drastically reduced from 7 in 1960 to around 2 presently) of that religion (usu worships this day) ?



OPEC quota for Naija is 1.8 mbpd.
Yet production continue to dwindle, now 900, 000 bpd last reported. Shebi u don see am now ba?

About the birth rate, it is what it is. Northerners have more children especially the poor ones in the villages because more kids means more hands on the farm. Not just even poor Northerners, I have seen poor southern families with too many kids. The almajiri factor is there and no excuse for that one. But we already have the population no need to cry over spilt milk, we can’t kill those we consider poor and unproductive.

Our crude is being stolen by some unscrupulous elements, but those thieves are very powerful people in the region where most of our oil is, it is hard to catch them. Security forces who are supposed to burst them are bribed, so that is not on the government fully, Nigerians are just a very corrupt people from top to bottom, or will the president take a gun and go into the creeks to monitor pipelines? That being said even if we met our OPEC quota the money we make from oil will never be enough. We need to usurp Chinese influence in some of these small african countries, produce things and sell to them. Also cajole African Union countries to stop exporting unfinished produce abroad, switzerland don’t grow cocoa but produce most of the worlds chocolate. After this is done, we can go back to the days where Agriculture was a big part of our GDP but only sell these agric produce after value has been added. The Europeans won’t have a choice to buy Nigerian chocolate because no AU country will export raw cocoa to them. That is the only way we can lift ourself out of poverty. There is as much leakages in the US govt as in the Nigerian govt but it is hard to notice theirs because the US govt makes so much money, no matter how much corruption goes on there is enough to build infrastructure and run essential services.

*Belgium not Switzerland
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Tejuri(m): 10:56am On Oct 07, 2022
VeeVeeMyLuv:

Oga nawaoooo haba...

Are u not seeing graduation pictures of our leaders with their children in Cambridge, havard, foreign countries, medical tourism....

I see that, you can’t stop rich people from sending their kids abroad. Over reliance on oil money to get forex is the problem. The New York police budget is more than Nigerias military budget, that is to show you how poor Nigeria is. We need to find a way to make money. If we have enough forex earning streams, we won’t worry about mundane things like medical tourism and rich peoples kids schooling abroad. You think even if CBN rate is N700 a minister’s child won’t be able to school abroad?
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by SonofmanPikin: 11:00am On Oct 07, 2022
Odewaleadesoye:
The alleged Audio Conversation between APC VP Candidate Kashim Shettima and Ibikunle Amosun has been checked to be fake.

According to the two reliable sour noces below, it was gathered that the audio Conversation originally came out in the year 2017.


Kindly look into the reliable information I got from [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2017/06/13/amosun-reacts-forged-audio-conversation-shettima/%3famp=1]Daily Post[/url] and PR NIGERIA.





[url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/dailypost.ng/2017/06/13/amosun-reacts-forged-audio-conversation-shettima/%3famp=1]DAILY POST[/url]







PRNIGERIA

Kindly note that I am not working for any political party but we must be sure of the news we are circulating.


But what is discussed in the audio is what is happening practically in the Nigerian political environment. It's the situation on ground that will determine if it's true or false. The situation on ground confirms that the audio is true and authentic.

Enjoy your damage control fee.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 11:08am On Oct 07, 2022
Tejuri:


I see that, you can’t stop rich people from sending their kids abroad. Over reliance on oil money to get forex is the problem. The New York police budget is more than Nigerias military budget, that is to show you how poor Nigeria is. We need to find a way to make money. If we have enough forex earning streams, we won’t worry about mundane things like medical tourism and rich peoples kids schooling abroad. You think even if CBN rate is N700 a minister’s child won’t be able to school abroad?

Really? Are you serious? U & I know that most of these riches are ill gotten through mindless , heartless looting of treasury

And sharp corrupt practices such as FX rountripping, subsidy fraud, oil theft, inflation of contracts & non execution of projects to divert funds.

Not from Enterprise.

U want people to consume home grown, yet leaders who should lead by example are 100 % have insatiable taste for foreign.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Tejuri(m): 11:15am On Oct 07, 2022
nedekid:

Well said, but my point is that we have been doing things same way and getting same results. We should try some other way to see if there will be improvement. We have not gotten the full details of his plan, just the sensational part was picked. Don't forget Obi has operated businesses at the highest level, home and abroad. From international to local trading, also the financial industry.
On the financial sector ran 2 banks including the current fidelity bank, chairman of charms Ltd and so many other blue chip companies. He certainly is not a green horn.
Finally, fx and economic has to do to an extent with "confidence". People's trust in financial management. If people know they can have acess to forex to do their business or personal use when needed, there is less demand and pressure on the naira. Eg, currently, anyone that has reasonable cash at hand, because of perceived fx hoarding, goes to the parralell market and changes the money to forex and keeps, at home or in dom accounts. People have even started loosing faith in dom accounts and rather transferring to foreign accounts for savings!
Maybe once confidence is restored interms of availability, naira will stabilize, that might be his strategy. Of course, the regular import ban on certain goods remain to avoid the country being a dumping ground.

What Jobs Obi had before now is irrelevant to be honest, Tinubu isn’t a dullard either, Delloite and Mobil are bigger and more respected companies than Fidelity bank.
I understand the need to want to change things due to where the present system has led us, but there is no way lifting FX and Import restrictions won’t finish this country. The only solution is for us to earn forex through exports of finished products not raw agric materials that earns us peanuts. We need to also start “chancing” some of these smaller african countries, make them our market for things we produce. Influence them from exporting raw agric materials so we can launch an agricultural revolution because unless the europeans can’t get raw agric materials from other african countries, they won’t buy our finished goods. Lets use cocoa for example, it doesn’t grow in belgium but they are the biggest exporters of chocolate in the world, if we use the AU to make a law that no african country sells cocoa, we will force them to buy Nigerian chocolate. More jobs for us, more forex earned. One American company called Mars Wrigley Confectionery made $18 billion dollars in sales in 2019, Nigeria made a paltry $138 million in cocoa exports that year. Its absolute madness.

Unless we figure out a way to make more forex, Peter Obi won’t change anything, bring an angel from heaven and Nigeria will still not get better.

If we make more FX, confidence will come back.

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Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by okonyia(m): 11:25am On Oct 07, 2022
The audio is very real. The audio was everywhere when it was licked. And because of the coming election, people has dig it out, and you come here telling us its fake
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Tejuri(m): 11:28am On Oct 07, 2022
VeeVeeMyLuv:


Really? Are you serious? U & I know that most of these riches are ill gotten through mindless , heartless looting of treasury

And sharp corrupt practices such as FX rountripping, subsidy fraud, oil theft, inflation of contracts & non execution of projects to divert funds.

Not from Enterprise.

U want people to consume home grown, yet leaders who should lead by example are 100 % have insatiable taste for foreign.

I know what you mean, my point is Politicians are scumbags everywhere in the world, we can reduce it but is not going anywhere. My point is we notice all of this because Nigeria is not making enough money.

In the UK at the start of corona, the companies who got ventilator contracts where companies who where like 2, 3 weeks old. Guess the owners? They where all friends of politicians, and they bought the ventilators at 2,3 times the market price. My point is politicians are the same everywhere, we notice the corruption in our own system because the government doesn’t make enough money to run essential services.

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Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 12:01pm On Oct 07, 2022
Tejuri:


I know what you mean, my point is Politicians are scumbags everywhere in the world, we can reduce it but is not going anywhere. My point is we notice all of this because Nigeria is not making enough money.

In the UK at the start of corona, the companies who got ventilator contracts where companies who where like 2, 3 weeks old. Guess the owners? They where all friends of politicians, and they bought the ventilators at 2,3 times the market price. My point is politicians are the same everywhere, we notice the corruption in our own system because the government doesn’t make enough money to run essential services.

Okay
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Everlastingson: 12:06pm On Oct 07, 2022
The leaked audio is genuine. Even without the video we know this is what they've been doing since Buhari came to power. But they shall fail. They're ordinary flesh and blood, though powered by Satan.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Igbojew: 12:28pm On Oct 07, 2022
Enkidu70:


Of all the pointless kinds of fake news to be peddled on the internet, your APC masters gave this to you

You're finished, and even you known it. Sad
They did not fact check or denied when a Northern clergy accused Kashim Shettima for destroying Churches and taking land that belongs to Christians in Borno State.........I am that Igbojew
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Igbojew: 12:38pm On Oct 07, 2022
Akerele44:
I pity those who still they get believe say Hausa and yoruba people will leave there candidate and vote for someone that's is originally from the state leading the separation of Nigeria
Why are you parasite so afraid of letting Igbos leave your Nigeria.I have never in my life seen a couple that are tired of their marriage or fight every single day but still want to live together as husband and wife.Tomorrow now you Yorubas will come here to brainwash who cares to listen to your lies that you people don't care whether Igbos stay or leave Nigeria whereas it's on record that you Yorubas are the people that carry one Nigeria matter for head even pass your Housa/Fulani masters.................I am that Igbojew the table shaker
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Jack500: 12:38pm On Oct 07, 2022
God1000:
Hmm, this looks like damage control

Shatap! But if it favour your candidate, it won't be damage control?

You need to get sense
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Igbojew: 12:47pm On Oct 07, 2022
olisaEze:
It’s an old audio but still valid if one were trying to understand the mentality of the man that is the running mate to a candidate whose health status is already giving much concern to the public. Loyalty to nation has to come before loyalty to party, or such a party becomes no different from a criminal enterprise. This is the man that has all but named himself commander in chief without recourse to his principal. It won’t be far fetched to conclude that the SE’n part of this nation would see worse than they’re currently experiencing under any administration controlled by such a self-entitled tribal chauvinist!
Thank you for this your statement,you are the one that expose this Shettima evil agenda against Igboa.Infact exactly what Shettima and Ibikekunle said on that leaked audio conversations was happening throughout this Buhari regime as president.Yorubas and Housas/Fulanis make sure they sidelined Igbos in this APC government and also Buhari economic policies was against Igbos because he said that they did not vote him.So people should not pretend as if leaked audio conversations Shettima and Ibikekunle against Igbos has not come to pass or will not resurrected if but God forbid Tinubu and Shettima win................I am that Igbojew
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by bestdudes: 12:48pm On Oct 07, 2022
BluntTheApostle:


You people are impossible.

Did the same Obi not talk about moving from consumption to production?

Why mention import restriction removal again?

Do you have constant power supply? you didn't even answer that. I am sure you have one old power bank that you using to come online to talk this nonsense.

consumption to product means countries do not import? No country in the world that does not import and it is only someone that does not know what he is debating that will sound like you...

Why should we be importing crude oil which takes up most of our forex? you left that one and focus on other sectors cos it fits your agenda...

Can you manufacture a laptop or the phone that you are using? I am not talking about assembling... I am talking about manufacturing everything from scratch. Pretty sure that you can't but you want to argue online to sound intelligent.

Most people Sound like you do not even run a successful business to really understand how sectors operate in the country but you will be talking and blowing grammar.

Later you will data is too expensive while forgetting that diesel powers all mast in the country in most cases.

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Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Igbojew: 12:49pm On Oct 07, 2022
What Shettima and Ibikekunle said on that leaked audio conversations was happening throughout this Buhari regime as president.Yorubas and Housas/Fulanis make sure they sidelined Igbos in this APC government and also Buhari economic policies was against Igbos because he said that they did not vote him.So people should not pretend as if leaked audio conversations Shettima and Ibikekunle against Igbos has not come to pass or will not resurrected if but God forbid Tinubu and Shettima win................I am that Igbojew the table shaker
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Nobody: 2:32pm On Oct 07, 2022
ElSudani:


One of the dumbest things I've ever read on Nairaland.

Counter my points with your clever points.

Don't just say its dumb. Tell me your take.
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by LastProphet: 3:18pm On Oct 07, 2022
Bigchristo:
In Nigeria agitation is like act of terrorism in the eyes of government because they don’t engage in fixing the country for it to be better and enabling environment for everyone, the first motives of an average Nigerian politicians is to loot public money and divert it for personal use, no agenda of fixing the country but when people starts agitating to leave the country they will deploy military airforce navy even DSS and police to combat such group of people, imagine Nigeria government proscribing IPOB to be terrorist group and struggle to admit that Killer Fulani herdsmen and Bokoharam are terrorist, see let’s leave this matter for matayas n focus on electing competent hands into government to fix the country, I keep asking people when Goodluck Jonathan was in power did we hear anything like agitation? Na bad government Dey always spark up such thing because Canadians and other good countries around the world won’t think of breaking out of their country.

Yeah agree with everything you said except that of Goodluck, he's better than buharis only in some few aspects, his looting party PDP and all the thieves there who are now in APC messed him up

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Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by Bigchristo: 3:41pm On Oct 07, 2022
LastProphet:


Yeah agree with everything you said except that of Goodluck, he's better than buharis only in some few aspects, his looting party PDP and all the thieves there who are now in APC messed him up
Yes I am disputing that facts, it’s true they messed the government up and run to another party grin grin

Nigeria politicians have one common goal which looting
Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by AllDModsAreMaad: 3:51pm On Oct 07, 2022
N3TRAL:


The price of dollars in the Nigerian money market is high because of scarcity of dollars.

If Dangote produces his cement in Nigeria in Naira and pays its workers in Naira and you buy in Naira, no dollar is lost in Nigeria.

If Dufil produces indomie in Nigeria in Naira and pays its workers in Naira and you buy indomie in Naira, no dollar is lost in Nigeria.

Importation of cement or indomie means that you will lose hundreds of millions of dollars annually, that can be used for other things, to buy the same cement and noodles that could have been produced in Nigeria without you losing that amount of dollars.

Importation reduces dollars in the economy thereby making the Naira lose its value consistently.

This is the simplest topic in economics. grin


Are you sure you understand the economics you keep mentioning?

First of all, one of the major the goal of every government is for the masses is to enjoy goods and services at affordable OR cheap/low rates.
That been said, what is the essence if the products produced in Nigeria is costly when compared to the ones sourced from outside via importation?

USA still imports some products from other countries, not that they can't produce it, but they considered the cost and pricing.

FYI, the scarcity is not beyond the control of CBN, but for reasons best known to them and those involved, they created such situation, and if it is beyond them, that is not the point of this discussion***

LOL, you even said importation is the cause of the scarcity of dollar and fall of naira? Na today Nigeria don dey import OR are we the only country that imports?
Is it importation that devalued the naira?
Is it importation that made dollar scarce at official rate but abundant at black market, thereby encouraging deliberate hoarding by some selfish people for their personal gains?
Is it importation that supplied forex that should have been used for better businesses to politicians during the various parties primary elections?

Do you know the amount of waivers, including forex waivers that those people I mentioned earlier are enjoying from FG via CBN?

Do start-ups, SMEs and ordinary Nigerians enjoy such benefit/privilege, even ordinary tax cut?

If you don't know, know it now that a country can never be self sufficient.
It must import/export at different point.

In your trying to be smart, you sound offpoint. You mentioned "if dangote, dulfil etc produces in naira blah blah blah"
Only if you know their import volumes, you won't type such words. Produce in naira kor manufacturing in naira ni.
Do you know that CBN gives them forex waiver, so as to enjoy easy access to forex at lower rate periodically?
Do you know how much they enjoy as import waiver? I doubt if you even understand what import waiver is since you said produce in naira.
Do you know that this benefits are not for everyone?

What is the essence of the restrictions if the products produced in the country is far higher in prices than those imported?
So, the masses should be suffering and spending most of their hard-earned money on products that ordinarily should be cheap because they want to maintain status quo?
What is the point of the restrictions if the citizens have to pay through their nose for products that they are supposed to get at cheaper rates?

Use rice as an example, local rice is cheaper than foreign rice, restrictions can be justified in that case. Even at that the government need to make enough provision so as to give room to adequate supply and scarcity due to high demand and lack of producers.

I don't think you are the right person I'm supposed to be having this discussion with, because no matter how much truth I give to you, the hatred due to politics/tribalism/religion won't let you see or accept the truth.

I'm done with you on this topic.

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Re: Audio Conversation Of Shettima And Amosun Is Fake (Fact Checked) by AllDModsAreMaad: 4:07pm On Oct 07, 2022
ElSudani:


This is because you have not been following the gains in the cement and rice production. Nigeria went through hardship to get to where we are today, reversing everything should be considered treason.


Gains?

OK, I have just 3 questions for you.

1. Which is higher, the price of cement before restrictions OR the price of cement after restrictions?

2. Which one is higher, the prices of rice before restrictions OR the prices of rice after restrictions?

3. After the restrictions and different ban by this present government, how much is dollar compared to years ago when there was no restrictions and which of the periods(before restriction and after restriction) is dollar easy to source.

Bonus question... Which of these periods(before restrictions OR after restrictions) is forex abundant OR easy to source?

I don't actually need your answers because the answers are everywhere but I just want to put it to your face...

Stay safe!

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