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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:47pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
I mean this food exported on it's way to Accra now

That's basically tea and coffee
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:48pm On Oct 11, 2022
samorobo:


In east Africa you mean to say.

Never mind his spurious claims,I wholeheartedly take them with a pinch of salt.

Yes east africa
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 12:50pm On Oct 11, 2022
gallivant:


Stop heckling. Use NEPA generator power wisely.


Broken record.
Next idiot please.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 12:50pm On Oct 11, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:


That's basically tea and coffee

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:50pm On Oct 11, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:


That's basically tea and coffee
Ghana total tea import is half a million dollars per year

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 12:51pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
I mean this food exported on it's way to Accra now
Ghana total tea import is half a million dollars per year

Look for something else in your food debate
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:58pm On Oct 11, 2022
gallivant:



LOL avocado's export are very low if you flaunting them as a token of excellency in exports,, you clearly need your brain checked

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 12:59pm On Oct 11, 2022
Just40:
Ghana total tea import is half a million dollars per year

That's what baffles me exporting tea to Ghana, Ghanaians are not tea or coffee drinkers.

Sense has left him

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:00pm On Oct 11, 2022
Kenya import of cocoa and cane rat is zero. Look for something to export to Kenya - even if it's kente dress - so far we have positive trade balance - batteries and tea smiley
Just40:
Ghana total tea import is half a million dollars per year

Look for something else in your food debate

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 1:00pm On Oct 11, 2022
Nigeria's top imports... Refined petroleum products take almost 1/3 plastics not included.
And someone was arguing yesterday that a huge refinery would be a curse than a blessing grin
I'll say it again, in few years time we will start exporting avaition fuel to Kenya

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:01pm On Oct 11, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:


That's what baffles me exporting tea to Ghana, Ghanaians are not tea or coffee drinkers.

Sense has left him
grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:01pm On Oct 11, 2022
Ghanian company ordered for Tea. Tea is most consumed beverage after water in the entire planet.
AfriqueDuZuid:


That's what baffles me exporting tea to Ghana, Ghanaians are not tea or coffee drinkers.

Sense has left him

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:01pm On Oct 11, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:


LOL avocado's export are very low if you flaunting them as a token of excellency in exports,, you clearly need your brain checked

I don't understand what you are crying about. You thought it was just tea, I gave just but one example. smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:03pm On Oct 11, 2022
AfriqueDuZuid:


That's what baffles me exporting tea to Ghana, Ghanaians are not tea or coffee drinkers.

Sense has left him

Tea and coffee is expensive, that's why they drink Milo and other concoctions. Unless they are paying in gold we will continue to sell our tea elsewhere.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:04pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
Kenya import of cocoa and cane rat is zero. Look for something to export to Kenya - even if it's kente dress - so far we have positive trade balance - batteries and tea smiley
childish as usual
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:06pm On Oct 11, 2022
I thought you were happy to host AFCTA? Not happy to trade?
Just40:
childish as usual

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:06pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
Ghanian company ordered for Tea. Tea is most consumed beverage after water in the entire planet.
I thought African traveller already educated you that Tea is not a popular beverage here..

So that statement is not true in Ghana.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:07pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
I thought you were happy to host AFCTA? Not happy to trade?

Lmao!!

grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:07pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
I thought you were happy to host AFCTA? Not happy to trade?
you have to trade something worth while than tea...

It has no value here....

Egypt will be a real deal to Ghana

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:07pm On Oct 11, 2022
Unless you're going to increase oil production otherwise the export will fall by almost the same amount that import will fall; cost of refining is 3-5 dollars a barrel. That is what you'll save plus other petroleum products if Dangote goes into that.

In short dont get over-excited - the value chain from crude processing is not a game changer. If we use 5 dollars times 560K*360K days = you're talking about 1 billion dollars savings. That 1 billion dollars is what Dangote is targetting - maybe he will be making 500M dollars profit per year - and Nigeria will get jobs - not sure how many - maybe 1,000 people - majority will be Indianssmiley

But it sure will eliminate the national shame of being only OPEC country to also buy refined fuel.

Fourpockets:
Nigeria's top imports... Refined petroleum products take almost 1/3 plastics not included.
And someone was arguing yesterday that a huge refinery would be a curse than a blessing grin
I'll say it again, in few years time we will start exporting avaition fuel to Kenya
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:09pm On Oct 11, 2022
Half a million dollars is a good place to start - Send us the cane rats.
Just40:
you have to trade something worth while than tea...

It has no value here
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 1:12pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
Half a million dollars is a good place to start - Send us the cane rats.
kid be logical... Of course you know that even that half a million dollar market won't go to just you especially when Unilever is producing here.

All of Kenya export are of no use to Ghana... So you will have to start producing things that better serves Ghana needs.
That is what Afcfta is about

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:14pm On Oct 11, 2022
Something tell me you're a Ugand or Tanzania type of market with very limited manufacturing.
Already you're ordering batteries.
Your manufacturing is where kenya was 30yrs or more ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnZzjWMWISk
Just40:
kid be logical... Of course you know that even that half a million dollar market won't go to just you especially when Unilever is producing here.

All of Kenya export are of no use to Ghana... So you will have to start producing things that better serves Ghana needs
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 1:15pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
Unless you're going to increase oil production otherwise the export will fall by almost the same amount that import will fall; cost of refining is 3-5 dollars a barrel. That is what you'll save plus other petroleum products if Dangote goes into that.

In short dont get over-excited - the value chain from crude processing is not a game changer.

But it sure will eliminate the national shame of being only OPEC country to also buy refined fuel.

Just stop being hateful for a minute and you'll understand:
- Nigeria exports oil and imports refined oil which demands scarce FX.
- This refinery will make Nigeria to stop importing the refined oil and intact, Nigeria will become a net exporter of refined oil which will give give us the much needed FX.
- At the end of the day, Nigeria will export the excess crude that we produce which the refinery can't finish refinering in a day. And also export the excess refined crude that Nigerians can't finish consuming in a day which is over 100,000 barrels of refined oil.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:23pm On Oct 11, 2022
I am never hateful
First you are not meeting your OPEC quotas.
2ndly you will lose forex when some crude is diverted from export to Dangote.
Right now you're doing 1.3-1.5M bpd - if Dangote takes 650,000 - you will have to reduce export by half.

Now two scenarios
1) You increase oil production - meet OPEC and then have more for Dangote - then you will BENEFIT
2) You dont - you only benefit from value addition of refining crude - that about a billion dollars - which Dangote is keen to capture.

Prospect of increasing oil production are remote - you're dropping in year when oil is at 140 dollars per barrel - meaning you have big problems

Fourpockets:

Just stop being hateful for a minute and you'll understand:
- Nigeria exports oil and imports refined oil which demands scarce FX.
- This refinery will make Nigeria to stop importing the refined oil and intact, Nigeria will become a net exporter of refined oil which will give give us the much needed FX.
- At the end of the day, Nigeria will export the excess crude that we produce which the refinery can't finish refinering in a day. And also export the excess refined crude that Nigerians can't finish consuming in a day which is over 100,000 barrels of refined oil.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:26pm On Oct 11, 2022
Just40:
kid be logical... Of course you know that even that half a million dollar market won't go to just you especially when Unilever is producing here.

All of Kenya export are of no use to Ghana... So you will have to start producing things that better serves Ghana needs.
That is what Afcfta is about

Facts are stubborn! smiley

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 1:31pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
Something tell me you're a Ugand or Tanzania type of market with very limited manufacturing.
Already you're ordering batteries.
Your manufacturing is where kenya was 30yrs or more ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnZzjWMWISk
You are in the same levels with Ghana. Nothing you manufacture which can real make you shout like that. Your manufacturing industry is still in its infant stage. The only countries I believe can real make it in this game of industrialization is Tz,Egypt or Ethiopia.
kenya? No.
You have many issues which won't make u a manufacturing powerhouse.

Some of the things which your kenya and these other nations you busy argue with will struggle about are these..

Availability of cheap and reliable power
High labour costs
Lack of robust agriculture
High levels of government corruption

I can mention here tonnes and tonnes of reasons why u won't make it,but I chose those 4 big reasons why it will be hard for kenya and other African nations to enter into a real manufacturing business. Out of those 4 readons,kenya fails on all of them.Tz passes on almost all of them,so as Egypt and somehow Ethiopia. But the rest of you,bye bye,manufacturing have left you.Try something else.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Fourpockets: 1:31pm On Oct 11, 2022
rvp2018:
I am never hateful
First you are not meeting your OPEC quotas.
2ndly you will lose forex when some crude is diverted from export to Dangote.
Right now you're doing 1.3-1.5M bpd - if Dangote takes 650,000 - you will have to reduce export by half.

Now two scenarios
1) You increase oil production - meet OPEC and then have more for Dangote - then you will BENEFIT
2) You dont - you only benefit from value addition of refining crude - that about a billion dollars - which Dangote is keen to capture.

Prospect of increasing oil production are remote - you're dropping in year when oil is at 140 dollars per barrel - meaning you have big problems

You keep talking about us loosing Forex, while forgetting that we are loosing Forex already by importing refined oil
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:33pm On Oct 11, 2022
Theories.
Reality - in COMESA - Kenya is second after Egypt in manufactured finished good export.
You can have low electricity, low labour cost,
But if they are stupid and lazy like you - they aint getting nothing done.
Kenya workers have Africa biggest HCI
So manufacturers know they will be profitable here.
Kazikazi:
You are in the same levels with Ghana. Nothing you manufacture which can real make you shout like that. Your manufacturing industry is still in its infant stage. The only countries I believe can real make it in this game of industrialization is Tz,Egypt or Ethiopia.
kenya? No.
You have many issues which won't make u a manufacturing powerhouse.

Some of the things which your kenya and these other nations you busy argue with will struggle about are these..

Availability of cheap and reliable power
High labour costs
Lack of robust agriculture
High levels of government corruption

I can mention here tonnes and tonnes of reasons why u won't make it,but I chose those 4 big reasons why it will be hard for kenya and other African nations to enter into a real manufacturing business. Out of those 4 readons,kenya fails on all of them.Tz passes on almost all of them,so as Egypt and somehow Ethiopia. But the rest of you,bye bye,manufacturing have left you.Try something else.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 1:33pm On Oct 11, 2022
Kazikazi:
You are in the same levels with Ghana. Nothing you manufacture which can real make you shout like that. Your manufacturing industry is still in its infant stage. The only countries I believe can real make it in this game of industrialization is Tz,Egypt or Ethiopia.
kenya? No.
You have many issues which won't make u a manufacturing powerhouse.

Some of the things which your kenya and these other nations you busy argue with will struggle about are these..

Availability of cheap and reliable power
High labour costs
Lack of robust agriculture
High levels of government corruption

I can mention here tonnes and tonnes of reasons why u won't make it,but I chose those 4 big reasons why it will be hard for kenya and other African nations to enter into a real manufacturing business. Out of those 4 readons,kenya fails on all of them.Tz passes on almost all of them,so as Egypt and somehow Ethiopia. But the rest of you,bye bye,manufacturing have left you.Try something else.

So why is Tanzania still in LDC status considering all factors you pointed out?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 1:34pm On Oct 11, 2022
A billion dollars. That is value-added you get from refining fuel.
Fourpockets:

You keep talking about us loosing Forex, while forgetting that we are loosing Forex already by importing refined oil
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 1:35pm On Oct 11, 2022
gallivant:


I don't understand what you are crying about. You thought it was just tea, I gave just but one example. smiley

Where are the rest?

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