Itsrm:


We will see what Obi is actually pulling when election results start trooping in

Ahn ahn.. Do you know what Tinubu will pull?

Itsrm:


Very very different. The entire structure of APC in lagos state is in Tinubus hands. He can even form another party today and the party will win elections.

That is not so at the national level. If he tried it, he would have failed.

Really
Are you sure about that
IMO only the north he will lose if he had tried

Don't forget tinubu co-founded apc

The mannerism of a sloth and the thought process of mad dog combined in a single individual or group is a recipe for disaster.

liveLongNprospa:


You honestly think Tinuke would have the juice to pull electorates like Obi without any "structure" in place?


Anyways its easy to talk about that because it's APC affairs.
I mean it's the same Tinuke that was going around saying he made Buhari win with his 2m votes .

Before the merger, where did Buhari's massive votes from the North take him to?

Majority of those who are supporting Obi are the usual folks who are sympathetic to the PDP but are only angry that the PDP didn't zone their ticket to the South...

As usual copy, paste and rinse
When you don't sense to think you resort to borrowing brain to survive

liveLongNprospa:


I think you can understand where Donjazet is coming from.

If you've been here for a long time, some of the older and "smarter" guys have basically disappointed him with their utterances and stance..

It's one thing to support and defend your tribe and tribesmen and another to be what you condemn.

Whatever insult someone like Raumdeuter (see how I don't hesitate to type it's name) gets from Donjazet is well and truly justified .


For me.. I enjoy the insults and what not... I've been here long enough to observe the fights and I know that alot of these guys are all talk.. Na only person like Segedinho I go cut cap for because that way of life wey e live especially for Edo State nor be beans.


I don't think Donjazet has insulted an entire tribe before. But feel free to point that out to me so I can call him a tribalist too .

He called the Yorubas tribalist here...

Heavy is the conscious heart.

When i watched this snippet, the narrative has been affirmed that 7 years ago, we voted the biggest set of clowns under one canopy into power.

Why bring out the tired and stale trope of, “PDP ruled for 16 years!”.

A party that stays blaming the shadows of the past can not propel us into the future.

https://twitter.com/progressive4bat/status/1579510299467874305?s=46&t=wW4RO4giKmRa7B58YX7PyA

APC is an unmitigated clown show. I remember how we called Jonathan names like “clueless” and “retardeen” only to elect the real clueless clowns.

I remember when Okwute’s miscreants were always quick to insult people who don’t support Okwute.

Now reality is gradually setting in and they’re now calm begging for sensible discussion and campaigning.

patrickmuf:
Before the merger, where did Buhari's massive votes from the North take him to?

Majority of those who are supporting Obi are the usual folks who are sympathetic to the PDP but are only angry that the PDP didn't zone their ticket to the South...

Buhari was getting atleast 8-9m votes..

My guy that is serious electoral value. Tinubu with all the others gave him an additional 2.5m

donstan18:
I remember when Okwute’s miscreants were always quick to insult people who don’t support Okwute.

Now reality is gradually setting in and they’re now calm begging for sensible discussion and campaigning.

My guy... You be goat ...

Does that clear your doubt

patrickmuf:
He called the Yorubas tribalist here...

Yorubas or he called out certain people?

Do you have proof of that?

iamoyindamola:
As usual copy, paste and rinse
When you don't sense to think you resort to borrowing brain to survive

Guy are you related to kabiru sokoto!!!!

liveLongNprospa:


Buhari was getting atleast 8-9m votes..

My guy that is serious electoral value. Tinubu with all the others gave him an additional 2.5m

Was it the difference between finishing second and winning the election? If your answer is yes then you have made my point for me...

Donj.azet2:
You really have to be shameless to post supporters from your own region.

I mean, can you see any of us here bragging about peter Obis rallies held in Onitsha, Owerri, nnewi, aba etc? We already know that these regions are foregone conclusion, it's a question of margins.

Our focus is on your own region.

Peter Obi will win more votes in the SW than the yellow teeth-stained drug baron will win in the SE, go am money if you doubt.

We brag about our rallies at your doorstep and far into the north.
We brag about peter obi rallies held in Bauchi, Jos, Kaduna, taraba, Ibadan and Lagos.

That's how you know a candidate with national appeal.

Not one with the most tribalistic set of human beings in your safe zone choosing a half dead human being to rule over a country of 200 million people.

liveLongNprospa, read the last paragraph and make what you want of it...

patrickmuf:
Was it the difference between finishing second and winning the election? If your answer is yes then you have made my point for me...

I am not arguing that the 2.5m didn't help.. But let's not make it seem like tinubu can pull close to 3m on his own.. Without any structure..ahn ahn.

But that's hypothetical

patrickmuf:
liveLongNprospa, read the last paragraph and make what you want of it...

Donjazet this thing I'm seeing here is looking like a tribalistic comment ooo

Ebukacute:

Guy are you related to kabiru sokoto!!!!

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Haba mana
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liveLongNprospa:


Donjazet this thing I'm seeing here is looking like a tribalistic comment ooo

What I mean is that people who follow tinubu do that from the prism of tribal lens.
I mean, you just heard nihilist say the exact same thing and justify it.

To make my point clearer, look at it this way, there is only one candidate having a wide national appeal right now and that's peter obi. Look at this thread as a case study, every single staunch Tinubu supporter is a yoruba person while Peter Obi supporters are diversified. From sege, an edo boy, to Ibime an ijaw man, to blueraydick (leaning obi) a yoruba man.

Why does the yellow teeth-stained drug baron not have that diversified appeal?
Why is it that only oasis, larride, dayo (Hitler), ribbit, nihilist, afrodoc, ALL OF THEM, like , EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM ARE YORUBA support the yellow teeth-stained drug baron?

The only non-yoruba folk supporting Tinubu here is the radical islamic terrorist here who is attracted by their founder shettima being on the ticket.

So ask yourself again, why is Tinubu's supporter mostly from his tribe?

You look at Tinubu, you see an 86 year old Parkinson patient and you're attracted to him, how? Right after experiencing the death of a sitting president and the failure of an ailing president.

You read Tinubu's history, you see one filled with absolute criminality, yet you are attracted to him, not that you've even heard from him adequately to know exactly his intentions for you but you admire him? Tell me that's not tribal sentiment at play.

So yes, those core Tinubu supporters are tribalists.
It's not an insult to the yoruba race as a whole but a segment of supporters.

Donstan18, I want us to talk.

Like, let's talk maturedly for a second, let's put aside the nascent acrimony between us here and pretend for a second, we are good friends offline.

I want us to talk about effects of governance in our lives, bad leadership and the way forward.

So let me start with a question, donstan18, do you think you are affected negatively by the effects of bad governance?

Do you think political leadership is important to our lives in any way?
Have you ever aligned closely with any candidate before?

Donstan18, I'm hoping you do justice to these questions.

Donjazet2:


What I mean is that people who follow tinubu do that from the prism of tribal lens.
I mean, you just heard nihilist say the exact same thing and justify it.

To make my point clearer, look at it this way, there is only 9ne candidate having a wide national appeal right now and that's peter obi. Look at this thread as a case study, every single staunch Tinubu supporter is a yoruba person while Peter Obi supporters are diversified. From sege, an edo boy, to Ibime an ijaw man, to blueraydick (leaning obi) a yoruba man.

Why does Tinubu not have that diversified appeal?
Why is it that only oasis, larride, dayo (Hitler), ribbit, nihilist, afrodoc, ALL OF THEM, like , EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM ARE YORUBA.

The only non-yoruba folk supporting Tinubu here is the radical islamic terrorist here who is attracted by their founder shettima being on the ticket.

So ask yourself again, why is Tinubu's supporter mostly from his tribe?

You look at Tinubu, you see an 86 year old Parkinson patient and you're attracted to him, how? Right after experiencing the death of a sitting president and the failure of an ailing president.

You read Tinubu's history, you see one filled with absolute criminality, yet you are attracted to him, not that you've even heard from him adequately to know exactly his intentions for you but you admire him? Tell me that's not tribal sentiment at play.

So yes, those core Tinubu supporters are tribalists.
It's not an insult to the yoruba race as a whole but a segment of supporters.

Patrickmuf are you satisfied?

You have oasis the radical propagandist here basically campaign for Tinubu in Yoruba language here.

Like, his posts are always yoruba-centric in nature. Sometimes it's like he's literally communicating to only his Yoruba kinsmen here, so you shouldn't be surprised when one says he and dayo (Hitler) represents the core of Tinubu supporters.

Giving Obi a chance in 2023 would not be largesse to the bespectacled ascetic what is at stake transcends one man he is just a catalyst for the new Nigeria we desire. It is more about the things his emergence would represent: that the people come first, that democracy must indeed be of the people, by the people and for the people.

That anyone can emerge as president no matter what part of the country they come from or how they worship, as long as they are best suited for the job; that people with the sheer power to vote can sack the stale politicians with their shopworn ideas and toxicity.

Nigeria at this time needs a visionary, not an emperor. We must wrest ourselves from the manacles of those who have held us bound and have become entitled to our commonwealth. We must shun prejudices as we forge ahead to become a prosperous nation. We must make this Obi experiment now and turn the tide against the political elite because fortune only favours the brave. It is in our hands.

2023: Obi’s sudden ascent represents a rare chance for Nigeria, says The Economist


The Economist of London says the “sudden ascent” of Peter Obi, presidential candidate of the Labour Party (LP), represents a “rare chance” for Nigeria.

According to an article published on Monday, and titled ‘Peter Obi, A Man Who Carries His Own Suitcases, Could Be Nigeria’s Next President’, The Economist, however, said there is still much for the LP candidate to do to get the required votes across the country.

“As public campaigning was about to begin in late September, Nigeria was rocked by the release of three polls showing Mr Obi well ahead of the two candidates representing the main parties that have mis-ruled Nigeria since the restoration of its democracy in 1999,” the article reads.

“In two of the polls Mr Obi has a lead of more than 15 percentage points over Bola Tinubu, of the incumbent All Progressives Congress (APC), and Atiku Abubakar of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), the main opposition.

“What makes this even more extraordinary is that Mr Obi is standing for the Labour Party, whose candidate at the previous presidential election in 2019 won just 5,074 votes out of 28m cast.

“Mr Obi’s sudden ascent represents a rare chance for Nigeria. The country ought to be rich: it has huge reserves of oil, gas and other minerals, plenty of fertile land and a young population of go-getters. Yet Nigerians are poorer today than they were ten years ago and 40% of them survive on less than $1.90 a day.

“The reasons why Nigeria is poor are rotten politics, bad governance and corruption. Politicians in Nigeria have long stirred up ethnic and religious divisions by promising to direct state resources to members of their own group.

“Once in power they have pursued contorted economic policies such as a fixed exchange rate and massive fuel subsidies. Some policies seem to make sense only as a way of allowing cronies to siphon off cash.”

The Economist describes APC’s Tinubu and PDP’s Atiku as not offering much in terms of developmental change, while citing previous allegations linking both candidates to crimes in the US.

For Obi, the article also cites the Pandora Papers report on his alleged refusal to declare his assets.

The Economist, however, said while there is no guarantee that Obi winning the presidency will automatically address issues such as corruption, “if he were to sustain his lead until the election in February, he would be the first politician in decades to show that a new sort of politics is possible in Nigeria”.

The article, which also features comments from The Economist’s interview with Obi, makes reference to the LP candidate’s rising popularity, including among youths and on social media, while describing him as an “unlikely revolutionary”.

“Mr Obi’s surging popularity is due, above all, to perceptions of his character. In a country cursed by politicians of extraordinary ego and entourage, his supporters marvel that as governor Mr Obi queued at airports holding his own luggage,” the article reads.

“He also slashed the size of his motorcade when he found that 13 of the cars were empty, he says. This not only plays well with young voters, but also annoys his rivals.

“Kashim Shettima, Mr Tinubu’s running-mate, grumbles that Mr Obi “tends to glamorise poverty” by claiming to own only one watch. (Mr Shettima, who likes smart watches, says he “has more than two or three”.)”

https://www.thecable.ng/2023-obis-sudden-ascent-represents-a-rare-chance-for-nigeria-says-the-economist/amp

Buhari spent months in London hospital and millions or barrels of crude oil were stolen under him The smiling teeth merchant and party men will not say anything…ooo
Tinubu already allows looting, imagine when he now goes on medical leave for one year
Imagine the deal this guy has signed with the northern leaders to get their votes

Donjazet2:
Donstan18, I want us to talk.

Like, let's talk maturedly for a second, let's put aside the nascent acrimony between us here and pretend for a second, we are good friends offline.

I want us to talk about effects of governance in our lives, bad leadership and the way forward.

So let me start with a question, donstan18, do you think you are affected negatively by the effects of bad governance?

Do you think political leadership is important to our lives in any way?
Have you ever aligned closely with any candidate before?

Donstan18, I'm hoping you do justice to these questions.

I don’t understand this.

obainojazz:
Buhari spent months in London hospital and millions or barrels of crude oil were stolen under him The smiling teeth merchant and party men will not say anything…ooo
Tinubu already allows looting, imagine when he now goes on medical leave for one year
Imagine the deal this guy has signed with the northern leaders to get their votes

Obi thats hoping to get Northerners votes, what deal did he sign with them?

donstan18:

I don’t understand this.

I said you should pretend for a minute we know ourselves and are good friends offline and communicate maturedly, not the usual name-calling.