Kentucky404:


Hello good day. I have read your post & @Rotech77 posts in good faith.

Mr Akin: I know your pain as a client, just be patient.
Rotech77 calm down too, don't be rude to your client.

Mr Akinola : Regardless of the situation, you should not insult your worker, if he didn't insult you, I know you got angry because he hanged up on you, but calling him "very stupid" is way out of line.
Learn to Respect your workers too.

@Rotech77 : for the leakages of the roof, from what I understand, U repaired the roof like 5 different times. ...... point 1: The roof already leaked before anyone worked on it , =Passageway leakage= caused by bent plank, that is entirely your responsibility...... Point 2 : you claimed the nature of flat roof affected the second leak, while the owner asked you to get your tiler to get it fixed, u claimed ur tiler was out of town, until the client got another tiler, which you later blamed for the leakage....... Point 3: you also blamed the parapet guys for the entrance porch leakage, while it is agreeable that the entrance porch leakage was probably caused by those guys because they were not careful enough. Point 4: you also blamed the Pop guys for the heavy design, which caused another leakage and also Tank position as advised by you affect caused leakage too. .........
Your claims still doesn't change the fact that U are responsible for the leakage of the roof and U are just hanging blames on different people and objects, it could have been caused by low quality roofing materials used by your roofer.


Rotech77 claimed you added additional to his job and U were not willing to pay. Mr Akin can you please clarify that aspect. What was the additional job you added to his contract and he refused?

Thank u, Mr/Miss/Mrs Kentucky for wading in

I am a peace loving person … and most NL I have worked with on this forum know me too well … I don’t want to mention names unless they come out themselves to testify …. I am not a first time landlord

It is true I called him stupid like I claimed earlier because I was hurt that he hung up on me while I was complaining about the useless jobs he did for me ….. To be honest, when we talked on phone afterwards, I made him realise how rude and disrespectful he was … but I still apologised for peace sake and he continued his work on site without me firing him

I can not recall any additional jobs I gave to him that I did not pay for …… not a single one …… even when we had an agreement for the total amount that I will pay for the carcass at the beginning of the construction… not too long after …. He called me and said things have changed o … and he added more millions to it …even though I was not happy with it ….. I still paid him …. So, him now claiming I added Jobs and didn’t pay him is absurd

akinola98:


Thank u, Mr/Miss/Mrs Kentucky for wading in

I am a peace loving person … and most NL I have worked with on this forum know me too well … I don’t want to mention names unless they come out themselves to testify …. I am not a first time landlord

It is true I called him stupid like I claimed earlier because I was hurt that he hung up on me while I was complaining about the useless jobs he did for me ….. To be honest, when we talked on phone afterwards, I made him realise how rude and disrespectful he was … but I still apologised for peace sake and he continued his work on site without me firing him

I can not recall any additional jobs I gave to him that I did not pay for …… not a single one …… even when we had an agreement for the total amount that I will pay for the carcass at the beginning of the construction… not too long after …. He called me and said things have changed o … and he added more millions to it …even though I was not happy with it ….. I still paid him …. So, him now claiming I added Jobs and didn’t pay him is absurd

Okay Thanks for clarifying .
@Rotech77 : can you please mention the additional job your client added to your job and didn't pay for . Let us get this sorted.

Mr Akin: is the roof still leaking?

Kentucky404:


Okay Thanks for clarifying .
@Rotech77 : can you please mention the additional job your client added to your job and didn't pay for . Let us get this sorted.

Mr Akin: is the roof still leaking?

Yes, the roof is still leaking in multiple places NOT just one place ….. but I don’t want ROTECCH OR ANY OF HIS BOYS TO COME TO MY SITE AGAIN….. I will fix it with his balance with me .

Thanks again sir/ma

akinola98:


Yes, the roof is still leaking in multiple places NOT just one place ….. but I don’t want ROTECCH OR ANY OF HIS BOYS TO COME TO MY SITE AGAIN….. I will fix it with his balance with me .

Thanks again sir/ma

Okay, The roof issue has been Resolved then.
God will provide for you abundantly.

Rotech77 kindly answer the questions I asked you. Am doing this in good faith. No bias.

Kentucky404:


Okay, The roof issue has been Resolved then.
God will provide for you abundantly.

Rotech77 kindly answer the questions I asked you. Am doing this in good faith. No bias.

Yes, I will fix my roof but he needs to tender apology to me here on NL where I met him ….. and he needs to stop parading himself as civil engineer/builder on this forum …..THAT S FALSE REPRESENTATION ….. deceiving members of NL … thereby defrauding us

With this ��….. am happy … everyone goes their way

To whom it may concern



If you are right.. you don't have the right to be angry

Kentucky404:


Okay, The roof issue has been Resolved then.
God will provide for you abundantly.

Rotech77 kindly answer the questions I asked you. Am doing this in good faith. No bias.

Thanks mr/s kemturkey
Actually I have said it that I will not reply him on this matter agains but bcs of you I will just go straight to the point again is short form

The 1st time he called me A STUPID Man was when he raise an issue and said that he should not let us argue much on the matter I will resolve the matter .. boom he called me STUPID haha

Second time I we have discussed an issue for several minute and I told him that I need to go now that we revisit it again .. boom he called me STUPID Man again. Then I warn him not to say such again .. I have all the chart evidence for this.

Now to issue of leakage as I explained in my 1st post
1. Leakage is caused by a bend plank ( this is normal in construction) in ONLY one point which we did and up till now No leakage there .

The rest of the leakage was caused by artisan he employed which his site supervisor was well aware of these and I still repair if for him without paying me KOBO bcs he turn the whole matter to fight and I just play gentle man here to make things fine after his supervisor begged that I should just do my best and leave the rest for GOD.
The tanks area I covered which cost me 100lk was a discussion btw me and him on how to save cost on scalfolding of about 1.6m and i prover system of puting the tank up but I said if it didn’t work then we covered it back,
He didn’t pay me for this

Now your tiler caused another leakage again ( this room didn not leak for one day since beginning ooo ) and you rush to call me to fix that again when all evidence shown the real men behind this
Damage .. you now asked me to repair it again free Who does that ?

This are part of additional cost to my head plus electrical in some area of the building which caused about 70k plus or so I have the chart records he said never he will not pay , when such area was not in our discussion at the beginning and it’s doesn’t reflect on the drawing, immediately he paid for the electrical bill finished he stared bring all this additional.. I have the record of the complain to him then

I know his plan bcs he didn’t want to pay my balance of 250k plus all those mentioned above

Bcs you see we vendor and contractor as hungry man here in Nigeria Abii

Kudos to the people ( both diasporas and Naija people ) that values us here
May you people never lack Amen

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The position of columns are determined by the structural engineer from the architectural drawings. They are placed in such a way that they do not obstruct circulation while ensuring that the stability and design of the structure is not compromised.

In this picture, we can not but assume that this column is placed outside the wall because that's where the structural engineer deem it should be from the drawing available to him.

Such columns are referred to as unbraced..

Akerewe:
Good evening engineers in the house. Pls what type of pillar is this and why are they outside and not inside as usual

Olumighty123:


In as much as I didn't want to say anything pertaining to all of this, that indoor roofing is nothing to write home about, damn

Compare with this from another site

bolu1986:


Compare with this from another site

Engr rotech did not supervise his roofer apparently...

It's well hope they get this resolved.

Aforxzy:
The position of columns are determined by the structural engineer from the architectural drawings. They are placed in such a way that they do not obstruct circulation while ensuring that the stability and design of the structure is not compromised.

In this picture, we can not but assume that this column is placed outside the wall because that's where the structural engineer deem it should be from the drawing available to him.

Such columns are referred to as unbraced..

Well you are not actually far from the truth but the primary reason that column come out from that wall is simply because the column size is larger Iin size than the wall according to Structural Engr design

twinskenny:



Engr rotech did not supervise his roofer apparently...

It's well hope they get this resolved.

Thanks sir kenny
We are on top of it in other note flat roof wood work is diff to hip roof wood work.

Can somebody show another flat roof with more wood than the pics of the exact site we are talking about here. Aluminium roof ooo … See the wood work below even at that when pop demand for more 2*2 we provide more for him. .. about 50-60pcs to hang pop that is function of 2*2 now

No be today we Dey do flat roof ooo you have work in many of my site.
Thanks for your input here

As I said I will not comment about the matter here again if not for the man that ask questions
Thanks

Good morning Gurus and Professionals in the house. Please, what is the standard or recommended thickness of a POP ceiling?

chairmanawe:
Good morning Gurus and Professionals in the house. Please, what is the standard or recommended thickness of a POP ceiling?

8 to 10mm

bolu1986:


Compare with this from another site

Even suspendable ceiling no fit work for that particular wood work. Not talk of pop

FEGEITOK:
Stories from the trenches.

I bought a ton of MDF to do woodwork.

Now the air in the office stings the eyes and the nose so I researched why this is happening.

It's the adhesive! Our markets are full of the cheap chinese adhesive!

Don't go cheap on adhesives, it's a matter of life and health.

This article explains why.

My workers even got sick, so sick that they had to stop work and vomited for hours until they were provided medical attention.

I now have no choice but to install extractor fans to ensure the air in the office is safe for humans

There is an update on the above.

If you want to prevent off-gassing, you need to use low VOC wood glue when doing woodwork.

Here is an article from an architectural website that goes into detail about the problem.

It is important for service providers to also play the role of trusted advisors, when they do this, telling the client the pros and cons of certain buying decisions, a bond of trust is formed that allows the client to have no objection to paying more for the service provider and trusted advisor roles.

But the client doesn't get this from the service provider and has to do the kind of work that I have done to guarantee health and safety, such a service provider becomes disposable/dispensable.

I hope this helps someone else commissioning woodwork in the office or the home.

Thank God for Shoprite, I am now using a low VOC wood glue known as Alcolin wood glue. I am saying thank God because our wood markets don't source for this type of glue, and the next best option would have been to import it from Amazon which would take time.

Once again this illustrates how important proper ventilation is for the home and the office.

Continued

continued II

Continued III

3strikes:


@aforxzy and Diordaves, I also dont think this is structural related....What is the way forward based on his explanation? What are your thoughts on the solution @hajivince suggested?

Hello house, concrete bulging during construction due to poor proping is common due to poor formwork materials available this days. To be honest as builder my self I have tried study why we get formwork issues but I realized that many client won't be able to afford cost of standard forms that can compete with what big construction company use, meanwhile that isn't an excuse for us not to be meticulous with what we have at our disposal.
Anyways back to solution,

if the bulging is so much beyond acceptable level then
A careful demolition of the affected span, return the reinforcement back to position, then pour fresh concrete but not that there might be need for some admixture that would enhance proper bonding with the old concrete at the peripheral.

Alternatively, after careful demolition, you can construct another slab that is independent of the existing structural members by using dry support.

I am about doing something like this, a living room with double volume head room , in one of our project. The clients want a room above the living room. So we are using dry support to create this slab. I hope to upload the progress here if the client is ready to do it

Aforxzy:
The position of columns are determined by the structural engineer from the architectural drawings. They are placed in such a way that they do not obstruct circulation while ensuring that the stability and design of the structure is not compromised.

In this picture, we can not but assume that this column is placed outside the wall because that's where the structural engineer deem it should be from the drawing available to him.

Such columns are referred to as unbraced..

Thanks for the insight chief engineer!

LordPherule:
Hello my esteemed NL House Brethren,
I'm a first-time land owner, and I need experience on how to develop the land on an affordable scale. I'm a hustler that's trying to get stability away from landlord bills.

I started getting experience here in my pre-SSCE times, and now I'm here again for help in my adulthood times.

Let experienced builders, and house-owners share experiences here so as to help us to avoid extortionists and swindlers of our hard-earned funds.

Your contributions will help in terms of "Positivity, optimization, maximization, and research". Your experiences will be welcomed, thanks.

rotecch77:


Thanks mr/s kemturkey
Actually I have said it that I will not reply him on this matter agains but bcs of you I will just go straight to the point again is short form

The 1st time he called me A STUPID Man was when he raise an issue and said that he should not let us argue much on the matter I will resolve the matter .. boom he called me STUPID haha

Second time I we have discussed an issue for several minute and I told him that I need to go now that we revisit it again .. boom he called me STUPID Man again. Then I warn him not to say such again .. I have all the chart evidence for this.

Now to issue of leakage as I explained in my 1st post
1. Leakage is caused by a bend plank ( this is normal in construction) in ONLY one point which we did and up till now No leakage there .

The rest of the leakage was caused by artisan he employed which his site supervisor was well aware of these and I still repair if for him without paying me KOBO bcs he turn the whole matter to fight and I just play gentle man here to make things fine after his supervisor begged that I should just do my best and leave the rest for GOD.
The tanks area I covered which cost me 100lk was a discussion btw me and him on how to save cost on scalfolding of about 1.6m and i prover system of puting the tank up but I said if it didn’t work then we covered it back,
He didn’t pay me for this

Now your tiler caused another leakage again ( this room didn not leak for one day since beginning ooo ) and you rush to call me to fix that again when all evidence shown the real men behind this
Damage .. you now asked me to repair it again free Who does that ?

This are part of additional cost to my head plus electrical in some area of the building which caused about 70k plus or so I have the chart records he said never he will not pay , when such area was not in our discussion at the beginning and it’s doesn’t reflect on the drawing, immediately he paid for the electrical bill finished he stared bring all this additional.. I have the record of the complain to him then

I know his plan bcs he didn’t want to pay my balance of 250k plus all those mentioned above

Bcs you see we vendor and contractor as hungry man here in Nigeria Abii

You are still blaming the other workers on site for the shitty job u did ….. Just because u think they took your job ….. Remember we only agreed on carcass not finishing stage .

Moreover, the roof was already in bad state before any worker did any job there …. Leaking in multiple places …. Ur roofer was there over 5 times to fix ( see below � my several notifications screenshot)

People are not daft here … they have seen both sides evidences …. And more than 5 independent people here have voiced out how bad the job was


Now that people know u are incompetent, fraudulent and a big liar …. U are trying to divert attention to money… which is all u care about …NOT THE JOB OR CLIENT SATISFACTION…. but I will address it one more time here

Just like I said in my earlier post … i ONLY owe u 250k (plastering balance), which I intentionally hold to pay for all your job corrections u refused to attend to …. If there is any change left… I will credit ur account with it

In regards of the overhead water reservoir… u suggested it …. I accepted it but I did not tell u that I could not afford the iron one ….. U were not able to construct the reservoir…. U struggled with it … it was given lots of issues which u corrected over 4 times but failed … so u decided to close the space …. So why should I give u 100k for the closure ( due to ur incompetency) when I already gave u over 400k for the construction of the reservoir??NO!

For electricals, U and I had agreed on the total cost for the conduit piping before work started …but in between u came back asking for more money …. For what reason nah ….. without any additional tasks added o ….…. See screenshots �

Why do u always do this ??…… U will lower your initial total cost to get a contract….At the middle of the contract, u will start giving flimsy excuses to get more money…. THATS UNPROFESSIONAL AND FRAUDULENT !!

I paid u additional over 2million naira over the agreed total cost for carcass job …. When u were giving flimsy excuses as usual at the middle of the carcass job …. So how much is 100k to give u ….. but I refused to be EXTORTED THIS TIME

Continue

hamtabfawaz:
Airport Plans for island (Lekki/Ajah/Epe Axis)

Someone said: “it's time to get land around those axis"

I believe the prices of lands / houses in that area would increase immediately the construction of Airport commence.

Opinions are welcomed.

Good morning Baba @Egunmogaji2 , been a while Sir.


https://www.nairaland.com/7376977/offer-professional-guidance-lekki-airport#117456569

Chairman, infrastructure builds property value.

So the more the merrier if done with foresight,

akinola98:


BABA BRICKLAYER!!!

You have not even address what brought me to NL ….. instead u are focusing on your other incompetencies …. Address the bad roof work

This is what �I said about the bad job on the roofing …. Another worker on site confirming it …see screenshot below ….. Substandard roof materials and not enough wood support for roof …. After collecting millions of naira from me ….. U THINK U ARE SMART …….,IT IS CALLED FRAUD !!!!

OLE!! BARAWO!!! THIEF!!!!

Thank God you acknowledged that you bought more woods for roof support when d POP guy and myself complained and insisted…. And I did mention this in my earlier post too

I even added the falling PILLAR u did for in the screenshot below �…. Thank GOD a real engineer came to my rescue

Don’t let me expose all your incompetences here …. U may be arrested for impersonating civil engineer/builder…..

Rotech77

Did u really construct that roof and pillars??

If yes, u no do well at all ….. horrible!!

God bless Imran Roofing company, agba roofer.. Quality materials, top-notch human resources and on-site supervision. Awa ti Ikere Ekiti dey greet you.

I hate all these stories that touch, it is not easy to get money oooo

I have always said it is easier for the camel to pass through the hole of a needle than to see a straightforward and honest self-acclaimed builder or civil engineer. The five-bedroon duplex they gave me a bill of 45 million plus or minus 10 percent is what I used 31 million to do under my strict supervision.

They will collect all the millions and still won't give you quality service. Na them go use 1:4:8 for concrete when the books said 1:2:4

God bless @ImranRoofing and other sincere people on this platform.... I no forget your 40k Baba Imran

Advocatesam:
God bless Imran Roofing company, agba roofer.. Quality materials, top-notch human resources and on-site supervision. Awa ti Ikere Ekiti dey greet you.

I hate all these stories that touch, it is not easy to get money oooo

I have always said it is easier for the camel to pass through the hole of a needle than to see a straightforward and honest self-acclaimed builder or civil engineer. The five-bedroon duplex they gave me a bill of 45 million plus or minus 10 percent is what I used 31 million to do under my strict supervision.

They will collect all the millions and still won't give you quality service. Na them go use 1:4:8 for concrete when the books said 1:2:4

God bless @ImranRoofing and other sincere people on this platform.... I no forget your 40k Baba Imran

Thanks so much baba av msg you since last month
Use that 40k to buy goody for my kids oo
At least after your project you av refer us again

Don't worry sir

money121:

Thanks so much baba av msg you since last month
Use that 40k to buy goody for my kids oo
At least after your project you av refer us again

Don't worry sir

I will continue to refer your company again again again and again because the client do not need to supervise your work before you do the right thing. Your sincerity is second to none. Continue to be a good man sir because you are one of the few Nigerians that could still be trusted sir. I am not hyping you but saying the obvious here

Thank you so much for the gift. 40k no be small money at this period FG dey owe me 8 months salary. God bless you so much sir

Advocatesam:


I will continue to refer your company again again again and again because the client do not need to supervise your work before you do the right thing. Your sincerity is second to none. Continue to be a good man sir because you are one of the few Nigerians that could still be trusted sir. I am not hyping you but saying the obvious here

Thank you so much for the gift. 40k no be small money at this period FG dey owe me 8 months salary. God bless you so much sir

Lolzz are you a member of ASUU