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Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by Reex12(m): 6:28pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
olabolaji:otto highhtower's advise was good at the time for not declaring daemon hier bcus he would have been a tryant, they all knew it, they avoided that situation by naming the princess. But the king would still remarry and a male child would be born who would take his place, the lady rhaena made this clear to the princess when she presented little laena as a match to the king, that Remarrying was inevitable and no woman has ever ascended the ironthrone right from Aegon the conqueror, that menwage wars an women birth hiers, Even used herself as an example, the queen who never was Otto aside if lady Leana had been offage at the time, she would have been made queen bcus everyone knew marrying the seasnake was the best choice for the kingdom, But blinded by love and circumstance he chose Alicent,now a son Aegon is born and the iron throne is his birthright and not rhaenyra, or the Kingdom will tear itself apart,every common man in the street of Westeros knows this, as rhaenyra saw when she went adventuring into a carnival dressed as a boy Even the king vicerys was chosen to be king over Rhaenys-the oldest female relative(the queen who never was) yet he decides to choose Rhaenyra over Aegon as Hier, which is against thier gods and men 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by olabolaji(m): 6:41pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
Reex12: No the iron throne wasn't aegon's birthright cos viserys had named rhaenyra heir, it could only be his own if viserys had changed his mind about the succession which Otto was clearly trying to get viserys to do by constantly spying and reporting rhaenyra to the king before he got himself fired. That aside, viserys was chosen over rhaenys by the great council called by king jahaerys meaning he could have made rhaenys his heir but chose to made the lords choose the heir. Now that's That's jahaerys law and everybody was happy but viserys in his own capacity chose his daughter as heir. He made it law, made all the lords swear to her including Otto which makes going against the law he made a treason. Everyone maybe love the idea of a male being considered before a female but the king made his daughter his heir and didn't change it till he died so the law should stand, anyone going against it is committing treason. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by Zee0007: 6:42pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
Reex12: Quite an articulate missive. |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by olabolaji(m): 6:42pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
If the king want aegon as heir he would have changed it before his death |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by Reex12(m): 6:55pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
olabolaji:the king was blinded by the love for his daughter and was even rather afraid of her as a youth, he wanted peace and only left her as hier as honour to her mother who he caused grief while looking for a son, if he wanted rhaenyra as Hier initially why risk his mother's life to save the boy instead just saving her mother and letting the child die, then name rhaenyra hier 1 Like |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by olabolaji(m): 6:57pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
Reex12: But he sha made her heir and didn't change anything before his death. Na wetin cause war be that |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by Reex12(m): 7:00pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
If Jon snow publicly declared his heritage who do you think men will bow to? Despite Dany being a Targaryen and mother of Dragons Only cockless men like greyworm and the sullied would follow dany the rest of the 5kingdoms would kneel to jon 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by Reex12(m): 7:09pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
olabolaji:even Daemon knows Aegon standing but his quest for power makes him loyal to his wife, her kids are bastards for crying outloud, reason Daemon couldnt wife misaeryia the LovePeddler for she will beget bastards and not trueborns, In GOT isn't this what caused stannis and his gay brother to lay claim the throne after rumors the fatman's kids weren't his |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by olabolaji(m): 7:14pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
Reex12: Her kids are bastards even her husband knew about it but he didn't deny them as his own trueborn sons, their grandfather claim them so where's the problem. Even kings can legitimize a bastard 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by olabolaji(m): 7:17pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
Reex12: Even if Jon snow declare his heritage there's still a baratheon/Lannister Queen on the throne, the only way to get the throne is going to war and reclaiming the throne as their forefather once did by conquest. So the lord can declare for whomever they want but whoever win the war get the throne 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by Reex12(m): 7:57pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
olabolaji:her lawful husband accepted them bcus it that was the agreement, his gay and cant bed a woman what do u expect, their Grandfather claimed them bcus of his blind love for his daughter, very foolish reason, kindgoms aren't ruled by emotions reason his ineffective leadership fueled the civil war and made the targareans fall from Grace |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by Reex12(m): 8:16pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
olabolaji:fate has a role to play in war, roberts rebellion was built on a lie, reason Jon was kept a secret for a reason but let's not go to that If the truth about rhanearya kids is confirmed, they will be executed according to the law, despite being targaryans its why was kept as rumor bcus it's treason yo accuse a princess,same way she lost her virginity to knight, but vicerys covered it, so many controversies sorrounding that power hungry bitch but the foolish king always covers up for her bcus of his love and not to lose the throne which isn't even rightfully hers |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by olabolaji(m): 8:46pm On Oct 12, 2022 |
Reex12: Ok I understand, Jon snow 2 Likes |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by chukwugoziegi: 8:00am On Oct 13, 2022 |
Gr8lex: Well, her husband knew about the arrangement and he was okay with it since he was a cock sucker. Is it still adultery? 1 Like |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by Lh19(m): 10:06am On Oct 13, 2022 |
Reex12: Why do you guys keep on saying Robert's rebellion was built on a lie. It happened cuz the king at that time was crazy enough to kill Lord Stark and his heir. The rebellion wouldn't have happened if he chose to do otherwise. |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:00pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
KanwuliaExtra:Rhaenys's claim doesn't supersede Viserys's claim because of her age or being the oldest female relative, both are grandchildren to the late king Jaeherys, Rhaenys's claim supersedes Visery's claim because she is the only child of the elder line of succession, i.e, she is the only child of the elder of Jaeherys's sons while Viserys and Daemon are born to the younger of Jaeherys's sons, since the line of succession automatically follows the firstborn sons, Rhaenys should have succeeded her grandfather in the stead of her late father but the younger son had male children and the lords of the realm voted to have a male successor instead of the right successor choosing the elder of the two male heirs in Viserys 2 Likes |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:11pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
TheKingIsHere:with a gauntlet |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:14pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
Zee0007:in some circumstances spines are fractured, ribs crushed, skulls cracked so yes, worse can happen in a fall from a horse depending on where and how you land, so being winded is generally the norm |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:17pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
chukwugoziegi:it is not diabetes, it is a severe form of leprosy |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:19pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
aieromon:no, his portrayal is the best so far amongst all the characters going by the book 3 Likes |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:25pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
dubylhover:the only power that can destroy the house of the dragon is the house of the dragon, that is the only philosophy Viserys is guided by and that is why at all costs he always tries to maintain peace amongst all the living targaryeans in a balancing act, going by the result of the civil war he was right, he was the wisest targaryean of that generation in my opinion, the rest of them had too much fire in their hearts and too much blood in their eyes 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:33pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
TheKingIsHere:no you're wrong, he knows the children are not velaryons but he knows they are targaryeans and dragon riders, that is the only bloodline/fact that matters to a targaryean! Even corlys velaryon knows too but he knows that fire in the blood supersedes saltwater in the blood so he fully supports it, valyria of old before the doom was great because they were dragonriders not because they were seafarers, from his perspective, almost half of the dragonriders in westeros at that point in time were named velaryon, added to his wealth and maritime strength he was unarguably the second most powerful man heading the second most powerful house in westeros, that is why he could afford to snub the king if he felt his house was maligned. Game of thrones is about power, a fact that corlys understood 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:37pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
pu7pl3: One word, ----- Vhaegar! There are dragons and there are dragons, once there was balerion the black dread! On his death, the title of baddest ever liveth passed to Vhaegar, Vhaegar to other dragons is like s fight between an armoured tank and a pistol |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:40pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
pu7pl3:familiarity means shyte to a dragon, a dragon will only serve one master at a time, all else be damned, the dance will show my claim to be true |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:43pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
JoshTheStoic:read the books bro, the war didn't end even when all armies where depleted, the war ended effectively when the last combatant dragons died |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 2:53pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
JoshTheStoic:not every army has winding stone caves to retreat into when a dragon attacks, the lords of the realm asides the lannisters in casterly rock almost all exclusively live in stone, wood and mortar castles which are proud family heirlooms they won't risk destruction to and are totally undefended and indefensible against dragons, they all have to chose a side in the war to come and many will burn down to dragon fire so you're wrong, in this war dragons will decide battles |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 3:00pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
Zee0007:dragons win battles and wars! Unless the opponent has dragons too making it a checkmate! Underplaying the significance of dragons in the war to come is just laughable, the show is about the first and most important targaryean civil war, it's notoriety is because in this era dragons were weapons of war! It is the only of their civil wars that almost rendered their family line extinct |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 3:04pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
Adek15:khaleesi was unique among dragon riders, she is one of the few in the entire history of targaryean dragonriders, valyrian dragonriders before them, and the empire encompassing modern day ashai by the sea before them of the emperors descended from the lion of the night who was genuinely resistant to fire, every other dragon rider had high tolerance for heat but they weren't fireproof 2 Likes |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by KanwuliaExtra: 3:10pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
BraniacX: Yes oooooh! King “J” has died. The “Dance Of The Dragons has begun! It doesn’t matter who ascends the throne. It is bound TO GO DOWWWWWWN! It is gonna be FIGHT TO THE LAST DRAGON! 1 Like |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 3:11pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
oyetpel:Viserys deserves an emmy for his portrayal of the dying king! Kudos to the actor Paddy Considine who played him, he brought to life the embodiment of willpower against the assault of a dying body to impose his will in favour of his daughter and grandchildren one last time, the only blood that matters is the blood of the dragon 3 Likes |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 3:16pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
Gr8lex:you guys are missing the entire point, you are relating this to game of thrones without understanding the difference! The plot here is not whether or not the kids are legal heirs, they are in the eye of the law by the way, or whether they have the blood, their line of descent only counts from their mother, they have their mother's blood and that is all that counts, it is about whether they can destroy the reputation of the mother in the eyes of the lords of the realm and make them see her as unworthy of succession in order to supplant her with her brother aegon as the direct male successor to Viserys 1 Like |
Re: Games Of Thrones: House Of The Dragon Official Discussion Thread by BraniacX(m): 3:24pm On Oct 13, 2022 |
Gr8lex:lols you are using modern day morality to judge the issue, in those times the word of the king was law and targaryeans viewed themselves as above the laws of men and gods, so as a targaryean she can Bleep whoever she likes and declare her strong boys as velaryons and say to hell with whoever wants to argue with her claims, only problem in this case being, her opponents are also targaryeans |
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