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Re: As Humans, We're Programmed To Be "Logical" In Our Thinking. by Kobojunkie: 8:26pm On Oct 13, 2022
SeniorMan715:
Maybe God leading them
Maybe? undecided

In regards to His New Covenant/agreement, Jesus Christ, God did say that He would sit as the Teacher to those who wish to learn of Him.
31 This is what the Lord said, “The time is coming when I will make a new agreement with the family of Israel and with the family of Judah. 32 It will not be like the agreement I made with their ancestors. I made that agreement when I took them by the hand and brought them out of Egypt. I was their master, but they broke that agreement.” This message is from the Lord.
33 “In the future I will make this agreement with the people of Israel.” This message is from the Lord. “I will put my teachings in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
34 People will not have to teach their neighbors and relatives to know the Lord, because all people, from the least important to the most important, will know me.” This message is from the Lord. “I will forgive them for the evil things they did. I will not remember their sins. - Jeremiah 31 vs 31 - 34
Jesus Christ even made clear that those who belong to Him are those who have God as their Teacher.
43 But Jesus said, “Stop complaining to each other.
44 The Father is the one who sent me, and he is the one who brings people to me. I will raise them up on the last day. Anyone the Father does not bring to me cannot come to me.
45 It is written in the prophets: ‘God will teach them all.’ People listen to the Father and learn from him. They are the ones who come to me.
46 I don’t mean that there is anyone who has seen the Father. The only one who has ever seen the Father is the one who came from God. He has seen the Father. - John 6 vs 43 - 46
Jesus Christ also warned against doing as the Pharisees did.
36 “But I have a proof about myself that is greater than anything John said. The things I do are my proof. These are what my Father gave me to do. They show that the Father sent me.
37 And the Father who sent me has given proof about me himself. But you have never heard his voice. You have never seen what he looks like.
38 The Father’s teaching does not live in you, because you don’t believe in the one the Father sent.
39 You carefully study the Scriptures. You think that they give you eternal life. These same Scriptures tell about me!
40 But you refuse to come to me to have that life. - John 5 vs 36 - 40
The Pharisees put their trust in the scriptures to reveal to them of eternal life, and not in God Himself. Pretty much the same silly thing many do today when they go into churches, trying to join groups with other men, claiming they are looking for God. undecided


So, again, do you find God in scripture, or do you think instead that you focus your trust on God first and then allow Him to lead you to scripture? undecided
Re: As Humans, We're Programmed To Be "Logical" In Our Thinking. by Kobojunkie: 8:28pm On Oct 13, 2022
SeniorMan715:
Marriage has a vow do you know ?
Which God give you a marriage vow? undecided
Re: As Humans, We're Programmed To Be "Logical" In Our Thinking. by SeniorMan715(m): 8:29pm On Oct 13, 2022
This scriptures are from the New Testament, Jesus warned against it.
John 6:53
Hebrews 9:22
Kobojunkie:
Before we proceed, I need you to understand that the commands below were given by God to those who are of the blood of Jacob a part of the National Constitution which God designed and put together specifically for the children of Israel in the Land of Canaan - Deuteronomy 30 vs 15 - 20. This means no other people or nations in this world are covered under this same constitution nor are they to live by it since God specifically exempted all others from this agreement from its beginning. undecided

As you can see, God's Law to the people of Israel( and the foreigners who live among them) through Moses clearly indicates that they are not to eat blood. undecided
Re: As Humans, We're Programmed To Be "Logical" In Our Thinking. by Kobojunkie: 8:34pm On Oct 13, 2022
SeniorMan715:
This scriptures are from the New Testament, Jesus warned against it.
John 6:53 Hebrews 9:22
I don't follow. What exactly are you here claiming Jesus Christ warned against? undecided
53 Jesus said, “Believe me when I say that you must eat the body of the Son of Man, and you must drink his blood. If you don’t do this, you have no real life.
54 Those who eat my body and drink my blood have eternal life. I will raise them up on the last day.
55 My body is true food, and my blood is true drink.
56 Those who eat my body and drink my blood live in me, and I live in them.
57 “The Father sent me. He lives, and I live because of him. So everyone who eats me will live because of me.
58 I am not like the bread that your ancestors ate. They ate that bread, but they still died. I am the bread that came down from heaven. Whoever eats this bread will live forever.”
59 Jesus said all this while he was teaching in the synagogue in the city of Capernaum. - John 6 vs 53 - 59
Re: As Humans, We're Programmed To Be "Logical" In Our Thinking. by Kobojunkie: 2:14am On Oct 14, 2022
SeniorMan715:
Is modern day Miracles and Dreams from God ?

As Jesus Christ clearly explained in scripture to you, the Spirit of God also known as the Spirit of Truth is the very same Spirit that lived and taught the Gospel from within His person. undecided
6 Jesus answered, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. The only way to the Father is through me.
7 If you really knew me, you would know my Father too. But now you know the Father. You have seen him.” - John 14 vs 6 - 7
Jesus Christ said the Helper would be with those who belong to Him forever - He will live with them and be inside of them, indicating that those who are not of Him cannot receive Him as a result of their inability to see or perceive/know Him.
15 “If you love me, you will do what I command.
16 I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper[a] to be with you forever.
17 The Helper is the Spirit of truth. The people of the world cannot accept him, because they don’t see him or know him. But you know him. He lives with you, and he will be in you. - John 14 vs 15 - 17
Jesus Christ, also promised His followers that the Spirit of Truth which He will ask the Father to give them will in no wise contradict Him in any way since the Spirit will take from that which is Jesus Christ to teach to them all. undecided
25 “I have told you all these things while I am with you.
26 But the Helper will teach you everything and cause you to remember all that I told you. This Helper is the Holy Spirit that the Father will send in my name. - John 14 vs 25 - 26
Jesus Christ taught of how the Spirit of Truth, the Helper, would be sent to each of His followers from the Father and would bear witness about Him, Jesus Christ. undecided
26 “But when the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he will bear witness about me.
27 And you also will bear witness, because you have been with me from the beginning.
He went on to further state that the Spirit of Truth is subject to Him, Jesus Christ, the Truth of God, in that the Spirit will only reveal that which is of Jesus Christ in order to bring glory to Jesus Christ alone, this by speaking that which of Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God which is ruled over by Him, Jesus Christ. undecided
8 “When the Helper comes, he will show the people of the world how wrong they are about sin, about being right with God, and about judgment.
9 He will prove that they are guilty of sin because they don’t believe in me.
10 He will show them how wrong they are about how to be right with God. The Helper will do this because I am going to the Father. You will not see me then.
11 And he will show them how wrong their judgment is because their leader[a] has already been condemned.
12 “I have so much more to tell you, but it is too much for you to accept now.
13 But when the Spirit of truth comes, he will lead you into all truth. He will not speak his own words. He will speak only what he hears and will tell you what will happen in the future.
14 The Spirit of truth will bring glory to me by telling you what he receives from me.
15 All that the Father has is mine. That is why I said that the Spirit will tell you what he receives from me. - John 16 vs 8 - 15
a. The Father will send the Spirit of Truth aka the Helper in the Name of Jesus Christ to those who live their lives in submission and obedience to the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ.
b. Those who live in the world cannot receive or have the Spirit of Truth because do not have the ability to see or perceive Him in their lack of knowledge(KNOWING) of the Truth of God, Jesus Christ.
c. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will teach the followers of Jesus Christ all things and bring to their remembrance all that Jesus Christ has taught.
d. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will bear witness about Jesus Christ to each of Jesus's own followers.
e. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will convict those who are in the world regarding sin, righteousness, and judgment.
f. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will guide each one of Jesus Christ's followers into all Truth for He will only speak of that which He hears of Jesus Christ and declare that which is to come concerning Jesus Christ(and His Kingdom)
g. The Helper, the Spirit of Truth, will glorify Jesus Christ, for He will take what belongs to Jesus Christ to declare to each of His followers
h. All that the Father has belongs to Jesus Christ and as such the Helper will teach to Jesus Christ's followers only that which is of Jesus Christ.
It is not true that all dreams and miracles that take place even today are from the Holy Spirit aka the Spirit of Truth who also lived inside of Jesus Christ when He was here on earth. undecided
Re: As Humans, We're Programmed To Be "Logical" In Our Thinking. by SeniorMan715(m): 12:37pm On Oct 14, 2022
Jesus said this on the passover, was that literally his blood or body ?
Try dey read and and reason to understand what you are reading stop contradicting the bible.

Kobojunkie:
I don't follow. What exactly are you here claiming Jesus Christ warned against? undecided

Re: As Humans, We're Programmed To Be "Logical" In Our Thinking. by Kobojunkie: 4:17pm On Oct 14, 2022
SeniorMan715:
1. Jesus said this on the passover, was that literally his blood or body ?
Try dey read and and reason to understand what you are reading stop contradicting the bible.
1. What is written in John 6 vs 53 - 59 is Jesus clearly indicating that those who don't drink His Blood and eat His Body will not have eternal life. i.e. they cannot be born-again/gain access to the Kingdom of God. That ritual is what Jesus Christ then performed when He ate Passover with His disciples in order that they may gain eternal life and hence access to the Kingdom of God just as is stated. When you engage in that ritual, you are not doing Passover at all - Exodus 12 vs 1 - 20 - a ritual related only to those of God's Old Covenant Law which is for the Kingdom of Canaan. Instead, you are engaging in a ritual that is associated instead with God's New Covenant, Jesus Christ, a different Law for those in the Kingdom of God. undecided

As for the teachings of Jesus Christ regarding food for those in the Kingdom of God, He clearly indicated instead that His followers are allowed to eat and drink whatever there is to eat and drink.
A. It is not what you eat that makes you unclean since food goes into your body and comes out the other side as feces. No food can defile you or cause you to sin against God so Jesus Christ placed no restrictions on what His followers can eat or drink.
10 Jesus called the people to him. He said, “Listen and understand what I am saying.
11 It is not what people put in their mouth that makes them wrong.[c] It is what comes out of their mouth that makes them wrong.”
12 Then the followers came to Jesus and asked, “Do you know that the Pharisees are upset about what you said?”
13 Jesus answered, “Every plant that my Father in heaven has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.
14 Stay away from the Pharisees. They lead the people, but they are like blind men leading other blind men. And if a blind man leads another blind man, both of them will fall into a ditch.”
15 Peter said, “Explain to us what you said earlier to the people.”
16 Jesus said, “Do you still have trouble understanding?
17 Surely you know that all the food that enters the mouth goes into the stomach. Then it goes out of the body.
18 But the bad things people say with their mouth come from the way they think. And that’s what can make people wrong.
19 All these bad things begin in the mind: evil thoughts, murder, adultery, sexual sins, stealing, lying, and insulting people.
20 These are the things that make people wrong. Eating without washing their hands will never make people unacceptable to God.” - Matthew 15 vs 10 - 20
B. That which causes you to sin against God does not come from the outside into your body like food and drinks. Instead, these things that defile you come from right within you - they are already stored up in your very heart.
14 Jesus called the people to him again. He said, “Everyone should listen to me and understand what I am saying.
15 There is nothing people can put in their mouth that will make them wrong. People are made wrong by what comes from inside them.”
16 [e]
17 Then Jesus left the people and went into the house. The followers asked Jesus about what he had told the people.
18 He said, “Do you still have trouble understanding? Surely you know that nothing that enters the mouth from the outside can make people unacceptable to God.
19 Food does not go into a person’s mind. It goes into the stomach. Then it goes out of the body.” (When Jesus said this, he meant there is no food that is wrong for people to eat.)
20 And Jesus said, “The things that make people wrong are the things that come from the inside.
21 All these bad things begin inside a person, in the mind: bad thoughts, sexual sins, stealing, murder,
22 adultery, greed, doing bad things to people, lying, doing things that are morally wrong, jealousy, insulting people, proud talking, and foolish living.
23 These evil things come from inside a person. And these are the things that make people unacceptable to God.”
C. Sin begins inside of the very mind of individuals and linked to the lies stored up inside of one against God's Truth. Even your very fasting(Starvation diets) can't help you in resolving that which causes you to sin against God which is right there in your very heart.
D. Jesus Christ even assured His followers that even if they were to drink poison, it would not harm them.
15 He said to them, “Go everywhere in the world. Tell the Good News to everyone.
16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. But those who do not believe will be judged guilty.
17 And the people who believe will be able to do these things as proof: They will use my name to force demons out of people. They will speak in languages they never learned.
18 If they pick up snakes or drink any poison, they will not be hurt. They will lay their hands on sick people, and they will get well.” - Mark 16 vs 15 - 18

2. You mean Jesus Christ Himself contradicted your Bible since pretty much most of the passages I have quoted to you are from the very teachings of Jesus Christ Himself in regards to these questions you seem to have. I thought you claim to believe in Jesus Christ so how come His very thoughts and teachings stand in direct contradiction to your beliefs there? undecided

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