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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 5:58pm On Oct 13, 2022
segcymoor:


Well you are not actually far from the truth but the primary reason that column come out from that wall is simply because the column size is larger Iin size than the wall according to Structural Engr design

It might be a 450 x 225 column..

These columns always come out for large structures like churches and warehouses.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 6:06pm On Oct 13, 2022
So it is now Bolu's fault. So much misplaced aggression coming from so many quarters.

There is a situation and Bolu is being pointed out by the protagonist as the cause of the situation, so you expect him to shell up and not say anything?

Any reasonable person will fight their corner and defend their work. I'm struggling to see why the aggression is directed at him.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 6:10pm On Oct 13, 2022
Advocatesam:
God bless Imran Roofing company, agba roofer.. Quality materials, top-notch human resources and on-site supervision. Awa ti Ikere Ekiti dey greet you.

I hate all these stories that touch, it is not easy to get money oooo

I have always said it is easier for the camel to pass through the hole of a needle than to see a straightforward and honest self-acclaimed builder or civil engineer. The five-bedroon duplex they gave me a bill of 45 million plus or minus 10 percent is what I used 31 million to do under my strict supervision.

They will collect all the millions and still won't give you quality service. Na them go use 1:4:8 for concrete when the books said 1:2:4

God bless @ImranRoofing and other sincere people on this platform.... I no forget your 40k Baba Imran


Innocent question..

Did you actually use 1.2.4 for your house construction?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 6:36pm On Oct 13, 2022
So Bolu should come out and clap for the quackery exhibited by a self-acclaimed professional?

How many mistakes so far? How many?...if you want to know history please learn to use your 'search' option in this forum, at least that will guide you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abidec76: 6:39pm On Oct 13, 2022
money121:

Thanks so much
Appreciate oo

U welcome Boss.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abidec76: 6:54pm On Oct 13, 2022
bolu1986:


can you tell me how i should work on myself? what did i do wrong?

for example if the pop of that building has issues tommorow wwho will they call? i pointed same issues out from the beginning.. the nogging was not done right what reply did i get>? i was told i dont know what i am doing. i used my personal money with the client support to get an addtional 2x2 woods just for me to move on..

he was the one that keep blaming people people on site for damage roof...


From @Akinola write up, he didn't mention your name or that of others.
I know you came to defend your work but not at the extreme of casting another person.
I didn't want to mention you at first but noticed you came out twice to talk on this same issue. It's like painting other bad and gaining more attention to yourself.
If tomorrow someone drag you as well, we will come out to defend the little good work you have been doing too.

The way we present our choice of words matters alot. We rise by lifting others.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abidec76: 6:56pm On Oct 13, 2022
diordaves:
So it is now Bolu's fault. So much misplaced aggression coming from so many quarters.

There is a situation and Bolu is being pointed out by the protagonist as the cause of the situation, so you expect him to shell up and not say anything?

Any reasonable person will fight their corner and defend their work. I'm struggling to see why the aggression is directed at him.


It's such a pity that majority of us only want to see what we want to see. Is it only Bolu's name that was mentioned?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Valuepaints20(m): 7:02pm On Oct 13, 2022
Advocatesam:
God bless Imran Roofing company, agba roofer.. Quality materials, top-notch human resources and on-site supervision. Awa ti Ikere Ekiti dey greet you.

I hate all these stories that touch, it is not easy to get money oooo

I have always said it is easier for the camel to pass through the hole of a needle than to see a straightforward and honest self-acclaimed builder or civil engineer. The five-bedroon duplex they gave me a bill of 45 million plus or minus 10 percent is what I used 31 million to do under my strict supervision.

They will collect all the millions and still won't give you quality service. Na them go use 1:4:8 for concrete when the books said 1:2:4

God bless @ImranRoofing and other sincere people on this platform.... I no forget your 40k Baba Imran



Oga na master of all time kudos oga tia cool

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abidec76: 7:02pm On Oct 13, 2022
Godisgreatest1:
So Bolu should come out and clap for the quackery exhibited by a self-acclaimed professional?

How many mistakes so far? How many?...if you want to know history please learn to use your 'search' option in this forum, at least that will guide you.

I blame Rotech77 for not handling the situation in a more professional settings.

A company can't stand out if other aspects are lacking such as customer services and relation , patience and professionalism in communication etc.
Like have said no one is above mistake.
We should learn and move on not name callings.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Advocatesam(f): 7:21pm On Oct 13, 2022
KolaShangOne:


Innocent question..

Did you actually use 1.2.4 for your house construction?

Yes, Yes and Yes

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 8:55pm On Oct 13, 2022
Advocatesam:


Yes, Yes and Yes
I hope you know the meaning of 1:2:4??
If this is true, You're a Big Man Woman ooo
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coldcandy: 9:19pm On Oct 13, 2022
diordaves:
So it is now Bolu's fault. So much misplaced aggression coming from so many quarters.

There is a situation and Bolu is being pointed out by the protagonist as the cause of the situation, so you expect him to shell up and not say anything?

Any reasonable person will fight their corner and defend their work. I'm struggling to see why the aggression is directed at him.

These are gang of fraudsters trying to bully another artisan who dared to expose their theiving ways.
We know them and their ways.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 9:33pm On Oct 13, 2022
rotecch77:
Good afternoon sir/ ma I really appreciated you all both that gives good remark about my ability here and off here and those that says negative things about me .. still I appreciated you all
It’s not easy to get this money so also it’s not easy to manage a good name in construction industry in Nigeria without any small or big problem at times, bcs so many things attached to this profession and others profession as well.

But all in all I appreciated and also apologize to everyone here including my cleint MR Akins
Thank you all

Don’t mind My English bcs I don’t speak queen English.
Thanks once again


Rotecch, I am just seeing your public apology here . It is accepted but remember what my other conditions attached to this public apology request …. Stop parading yourself as a civil engineer or builder… u are not . Pls tell your client WHO EXACTLY U ARE so the cards are laid down from day 1

Secondly, as said before, I owe u 250k for plastering balance but I will hold unto it to pay for the corrections in the job you did for me . If there is any change left ( which I doubt ) …. I will credit your bank account

Lastly, I thank all the noble men and women on this forum that waded in, looked at all evidences given, took their time to post fair messages here … in order for this issue to be resolved….. I APPRECIATE U SIR/MA …. You are wonderful fellow Nairalanders .. God bless

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:18pm On Oct 13, 2022
Finishing of this our project is still in progress… tiling, compound leveling etc

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:25pm On Oct 13, 2022
Update on another site, water tank stanchion is in progress, tiling , final lapse of pop work also in progress

Water tanks stand cost sum of 1.5m
Thanks to all our esteemed clients, advisers, well wishers, and lastly to all NL members

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dashlish12: 10:54pm On Oct 13, 2022
Born2conquer:

What's the exact location
. Oh my Apologies Just seeing this Sir; the land (4acres and 2plot) is situated at Okun_Ise Ibeju/lekki(just 5min drive away from Lacampagne resort and 20min drive Away from the Lekki seaport) Has a close Proximity with Nature e.g the Oso lake, Osa Lagoon and the Atlantic ocean). Topography: Dry land. Features: Lacampagne Tropicana Beach resort, Lekki seaport, Dangote Seaport, Propose Okunlape Seaport, Lekki Free Trade Zone, Lagos Free Trade Zone etc
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Advocatesam(f): 11:23pm On Oct 13, 2022
olukaygold:

I hope you know the meaning of 1:2:4??
If this is true, You're a Big Man Woman ooo

Very laughable sir. My concrete mixing ratio had always been 4 rubbers (20l paint rubber) of sand (cos those artisans don't use head pan again) and 8 rubbers of granite stone. Worse case scenario was 6 rubbers of sand and 8 rubbers of granite stone to a bag of cement (1:3:4)

Setting of blocks had always been 10 rubbers of sharp sand to a bag and same measurement was used for plastering.

It is not about big man sir but following the laid down precedence on this forum. I have learnt alot on this forum

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by akinola98: 11:27pm On Oct 13, 2022
akinola98:


Rotecch, I am just seeing your public apology here . It is accepted but remember what my other conditions attached to this public apology request …. Stop parading yourself as a civil engineer or builder… u are not . Pls tell your client WHO EXACTLY U ARE so the cards are laid down from day 1

Secondly, as said before, I owe u 250k for plastering balance but I will hold unto it to pay for the corrections in the job you did for me . If there is any change left ( which I doubt ) …. I will credit your bank account

Lastly, I thank all the noble men and women on this forum that waded in, looked at all evidences given, took their time to post fair messages here … in order for this issue to be resolved….. I APPRECIATE U SIR/MA …. You are wonderful fellow Nairalanders .. God bless

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 12:13am On Oct 14, 2022
If and when Bolu messes up, his customers are welcome to publicize it on here. I beg to disagree that nobody knew it was Bolu doing the POP. I am very confident that offline, a number of people already knew and had formed their own opinions about the quality of his work. Should he keep quiet while Rotech77 casts aspersions on his labor and impacts his reputation? I salute his boldness, I would do the same. His calling out his colleagues is a challenge to anyone he has wronged to come out. If you cannot accuse him of poor work, your opinion about his voicing out means zilch. Air his own dirty linen here , that’s the only fair response rather than talking about throwing and bussing.

This is not Rotech77’s first case in the last year. If my memory serves me right, isn’t this the 3rd time he has been called out since summer 2021? That’s like 3 times in the last year alone. Isn’t that how N3xt started? Or should we wait till there are20 accusers? Small time, the advisers will start harassing Akinola98 to delete his posts and cover Rotech777 so that the next customer doesn’t see the previous scandals. If your reputation is worth protecting, that reflects in the way you do your work. Abi should we blame village people for these repeated issues and absolve him of all blame?

Sentiments all the time! Who did this to us? Customers should cuddle/cajole/pet contractors they paid to do a good job? For real? If you need supervision for the job you are taking as a professional, then disclose that to the customer upfront so that expectations and renumeration are aligned. No offence but it’s absolute nonsense for a professional to expect to be supervised. If you are paid to do a good job, there are no excuses! The buck stops with you. Even in the office environment, your employer wants results, not excuses! You’re either competent for your role or you are not! Abi Rotech777 is an intern, novice builder ni? Somebody bills like an experienced builder and when he messes up, the customer is asked to “work with him “ aka pay him more to resolve the problem like say he has a bottomless ocean of funds.

Redgem, I thought money121 did your roof? Are you saying same roof is leaking?


***Modified***
Money121 only supplied the roofing sheets, he did NOT do the installation.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 4:46am On Oct 14, 2022
Advocatesam:


Very laughable sir. My concrete mixing ratio had always been 4 rubbers (20l paint rubber) of sand (cos those artisans don't use head pan again) and 8 rubbers of granite stone. Worse case scenario was 6 rubbers of sand and 8 rubbers of granite stone to a bag of cement (1:3:4)

Setting of blocks had always been 10 rubbers of sharp sand to a bag and same measurement was used for plastering.

It is not about big man sir but following the laid down precedence on this forum. I have learnt alot on this forum
Very commendable ma.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Godisgreatest1: 5:58am On Oct 14, 2022
There are three reasons you decided to deviate attention to Bolu:

(1) You are not aware that this is NOT the first time the same artisan has been reported for a substandard job and quackery, this is at least the third time (x3).. At least I know of complaint of a 'bouncing decking'.

(2) You are blinded with 'sentiments'.
(3) You are trying to seek attention.

Should we all wait till the number of complaints reach 10 before it will be obvious? Good morning.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 6:22am On Oct 14, 2022
Hello people,

What are the best practices to employ in plastering external walls (fence in &out, gate house) and BQ such that screeding will not be necessary and still get a good finish?

Apart from good workman, are there other tricks? Sand type, mix ratio or other technique to apply.

Main building was screeded inside & out.

Thanks always
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by toyeoye(m): 6:31am On Oct 14, 2022
olukaygold:

I hope you know the meaning of 1:2:4??
If this is true, You're a Big Man Woman ooo

Is 1:2:4 ratio wrong? What does the best practice advice? What ratio do you use?
I'm not an expert but I maintain the standards in my field. We should try as much as possible to maintain best practice in our professions.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 6:34am On Oct 14, 2022
rotecch77:
Update on another site, water tank stanchion is in progress, tiling , final lapse of pop work also in progress

Water tanks stand cost sum of 1.5m
Thanks to all our esteemed clients, advisers, well wishers, and lastly to all NL members
the distance between the channels is way too much sir. Those standing channels are load bearing units and the tanks are meant to rest on them. The way they're standing, they will be holding up the components of the tank stand instead of the tanks.

This is from the little experience I gathered doing this not an aspersions on the quality of your job.

Thank you and good morning

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 6:46am On Oct 14, 2022
toyeoye:


Is 1:2:4 ratio wrong? What does the best practice advice? What ratio do you use?
I'm not an expert but I maintain the standards in my field. We should try as much as possible to maintain best practice in our professions.
It's VERY good if you can afford it, right from foundation to Plastering even your concrete blocks as well (You cant be practicing 1:2:4 mixing ratio and when your concrete blocks could be easily cutoff with hand trowel).
Modified
But I normally use 1:4:6 mixing ratio for Concrete I no be Dangote grin and for block settings 1:8, plastering 1:6(both inner and external Walls)

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 7:17am On Oct 14, 2022
MMotimo:
If and when Bolu messes up, his customers are welcome to publicize it on here. I beg to disagree that nobody knew it was Bolu doing the POP. I am very confident that offline, a number of people already knew and had formed their own opinions about the quality of his work. Should he keep quiet while Rotech77 casts aspersions on his labor and impacts his reputation? I salute his boldness, I would do the same. His calling out his colleagues is a challenge to anyone he has wronged to come out. If you cannot accuse him of poor work, your opinion about his voicing out means zilch. Air his own dirty linen here , that’s the only fair response rather than talking about throwing and bussing.

This is not Rotech77’s first case in the last year. If my memory serves me right, isn’t this the 3rd time he has been called out since summer 2021? That’s like 3 times in the last year alone. Isn’t that how N3xt started? Or should we wait till there are20 accusers? Small time, the advisers will start harassing Akinola98 to delete his posts and cover Rotech777 so that the next customer doesn’t see the previous scandals. If your reputation is worth protecting, that reflects in the way you do your work. Abi should we blame village people for these repeated issues and absolve him of all blame?

Sentiments all the time! Who did this to us? Customers should cuddle/cajole/pet contractors they paid to do a good job? For real? If you need supervision for the job you are taking as a professional, then disclose that to the customer upfront so that expectations and renumeration are aligned. No offence but it’s absolute nonsense for a professional to expect to be supervised. If you are paid to do a good job, there are no excuses! The buck stops with you. Even in the office environment, your employer wants results, not excuses! You’re either competent for your role or you are not! Abi Rotech777 is an intern, novice builder ni? Somebody bills like an experienced builder and when he messes up, the customer is asked to “work with him “ aka pay him more to resolve the problem like say he has a bottomless ocean of funds.

Redgem, I thought money121 did your roof? Are you saying same roof is leaking?
Only suppllied her roofing sheet we didn't handle the installation, although we took the measurement but she prefer her installer in benin to handle the installation

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by olukaygold(m): 7:23am On Oct 14, 2022
money121:

Only supply her roofing sheet we didn't handle the installation, although we took the measurement but she prefer her installer in benin to handle the installation
Good Morning Ogami
Can you supply to Akure and Ekiti?
And what's your rate per sqm for complete 0.45 longspan aluminum sheet sir?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by money121(m): 7:35am On Oct 14, 2022
olukaygold:

Good Morning Ogami
Can you supply to Akure and Ekiti?
And what's your rate per sqm for complete 0.45 longspan aluminum sheet sir?
Yes sir we supply nationwide

0.45mm @2,900 permtr
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 7:36am On Oct 14, 2022
Dashlish12:
. Oh my Apologies Just seeing this Sir; the land (4acres and 2plot) is situated at Okun_Ise Ibeju/lekki(just 5min drive away from Lacampagne resort and 20min drive Away from the Lekki seaport) Has a close Proximity with Nature e.g the Oso lake, Osa Lagoon and the Atlantic ocean). Topography: Dry land. Features: Lacampagne Tropicana Beach resort, Lekki seaport, Dangote Seaport, Propose Okunlape Seaport, Lekki Free Trade Zone, Lagos Free Trade Zone etc

I want to believe the land doesn't have any title.
Wrong?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dashlish12: 7:43am On Oct 14, 2022
somehow:


I want to believe the land doesn't have any title.
Wrong?
. Well u are quite correct sir; Register survey copy only. Good morning

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