Toodirty:
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1) Is it possible to use a third party as sponsor .. after all fees have been paid I.e uncle , family friend etc different names
2) just asking to know if it’s the same procedure like canada
If an applicant plans to go for sept 2023 intake is it possible to put in an earlier application so the visa comes out early or it has to be 3 months before program start I.e for a September2023 admission the applicant apply for visa like Jan / feb or March 2023
Or it has be around June 2023?

Toodirty:
Hello trust you are doing great please I would appreciate if you can shed more light concerning my following questions as I am still a novice concerning the Ireland study routine

1) Is it possible to use a third party as sponsor .. after all fees have been paid I.e uncle , family friend etc different names

2) just asking to know if it’s the same procedure like canada
If an applicant plans to go for sept 2023 intake is it possible to put in an earlier application so the visa comes out early or it has to be 3 months before program start I.e for a September2023 admission the applicant apply for visa like Jan / feb or March 2023
Or it has be around June 2023?

semmyk:
The 'answer' is in your appeal refusal (read with your visa refusal).
Using edubond does not absolves you providing good intent to study and explain flow of funds for 6 mths (bank statements). What edubond does is to limit/curtailed the degree of intruding into your (financial) privacy (and that of your sponsor) or make it easier for you not to require a sponsor.
Kindly bear in mind that the VO (whether Ireland, UK, US, Canada or any other) are fully aware of PoF as a business in 9ja!
The key thing one can see/read from these two letters is that you did not do the needful to succinctly explain your incomes for the six months period. Also, it is apparent that you seemly make large sum deposit close to your visa application. This you did not explain until when you were appealing. Even at that, by that time, you merely glossed over things. The VO took cognisance of this and came to your 'rescue' in a way: ... various side hustles...
Since you intend applying again in Feb,
- Make steady inflow in and out of your intended account.
- Still use edubond (I guess you can leave the current one till then which will show your 'capability' to fund)
- write your statement of interest in simple way of; why you want to study, why the course, what you will do with the course when you get back to 9ja, how the course will assist your career (or business,) going forward.
- include (disclose) and explain how your circumstances has 'improve' from this refusal.
NB: you didn't tell us what this course is. However, if for instance it's Masters, you don't start staying you will stay back in Ireland to look around for doctorate. I say this because the VO keeps repeating ... type of visa is for limited duration .... So I guess your statement might not be clear on ... what's next after your current study that you're applying visa for. PS: ICaSNG might assist with guidance on this: like if going for Masters, to indicate if you'll be looking for doctorate post the masters in Ireland. My gut feeling is, it's red flag.

There are other things one can pick, but the above might be the 'deal breaker'
As regarding the I added more documents too, it appears the VO considered them in good faith and did not raise issues with most of them again.
To us all, I'll say, always provide essential documentations requested/needed. Do not focus on one area only, neglecting the others. Most times, focus is on balance of funds!!! Rather, focus should be on ALL on the checklist.

[update] I've noted ICaSNG reply to you. Kindly pay attention to it.

She also seems to allude to UG and not PG. If so, it makes the VO refusal more clearer. All the best in Feb.

ICaSNg:


I've responded to your email but also for others to learn, I will emphasize on the following:

1. Valid proof of relationship to any sponsor is required e.g. A student being sponsored by a sibling must provide his birth certificate and Sponsor's birth certificate- both certs must show they both share the same parents or at least 1 parents if step-siblings.
2. For UG applicants using a sponsor or self sponsored, POF analysis by the VO is not based on Edu bond or closing amount in Bank account but rather on either you or your sponsor having sustainable proof of Employment and Income- I've had students how showed 25m in their Sponsor's account but sponsor is retired and earns less than 70,000 in pensions; In such cases or similar cases the application was refused.

oluwaVaz:

ICaSNg:


You've covered 80% of what could have gone wrong based on the refusal letter. I guess she needs to speak to her school or Agent assigned to him or her.
Some other underlying factors may not be totally covered in the refusal letter e.g. I've seen students with BSc 2:2 from a science discipline applying for a 2 year BSc top up in Business ; which is absolutely ridiculous and this definitely has led to refusal for some students.

Finally, as you rightly stated, when going for any program either UG or PG, your future aspiration should be linked to Nigeria- this is not just for Ireland, for any country a student intends applying to for further studies, your future aspirations should be well defined on how the intended study will add value to your home country .

So while applying for a visa for a masters program, stating you intend proceeding for PhD IS TOTALLY A RED FLAG exception to MPhil students.

bankool:
I'm searching for a flatmate, kindly contact me if you're interested in sharing a 2 bedroom flat in Cork.
A recommendation to join someone that has already secured a place would also be very appreciated.

teamstudy:
Hello house, I have a question please. @ICaSNg @semmyk
I applied for an Irish visit visa to see my spouse in 2019 but was refused on many grounds incl financial, OC, insufficient docs etc but the thing is my agent exaggerated my application with the idea of 'u need to look big cos Ireland visa is hard' and of course I agreed cos it was my first time travelling internationally. Luckily, I was not banned.
Now, I would like to apply again myself. Should I go through the study route (will any Irish uni accept HND lower credit?) and declare my finances truthfully to the Irish embassy (and also disclose that my agent exaggerated my previous application) or just apply for uk visit visa and meet up with my partner in the uk. Also what could I use as strong ties and to show that I will observe the conditions of the visa? Thanks

Chibabe4eva:
Please someone shld help me with affordable shared apartment to rent in Dublin Ireland. Its very urgent pls I need ur help to secure accommodation for my younger brother so he can concentrate on his studies plsssss help pls help.

Thank you all...

Chinar:
Hi @ICasNG. So I applied for my Irish study visa yesterday. Here’s my story, I started an ug program in Economics in a private Uni in Nigeria but didn’t graduate because I couldn’t meet up with the needed grades from graduating and so I took a break from my education to try to gain some work experience before going back to school. I got a job at a business firm and worked for 2 years until COVID. After I left, I continued to develop my self and talent as I attended a tech program where I was given certificate of participation and I continued developing my talent in music until I decided to go back to school. I’m 28 now and just got billed to start a Bachelors program in Business at the Dublin Business School in January with my fees fully paid by my sponsor who is my brother (who works and resides in the UK with a good financial standing). Do you think my case is strong enough to be issued a study visa to Ireland regardless of my gap?

ICaSNg:


Your application has been submitted. Please pray and just be hopefully that the visa will be granted.

semmyk:
I trust ICaSNG will do justice to this; her experience and consulting.
Few things from my side.
What you've raised here is #golden. You are assisting a lot with their future plan/application. Once more thanks. Why do I say so.
Ireland has the short stay ‘C’ visit (tourist) visa. This is meant for going on holidays just like people jet off to Dubai for two weeks holiday or UK or US on hold (typically Summer hols). From your narrative, this 8s what you applied for in 2019. I might be wrong though. In anyway, this is not about 'speaking' to you. Pls, I'm just talking generally.
Now, within short stay ‘C’ visit (tourist) visa there is another sub-category, the short stay ‘C’ visit (family/friend) visa. For those that want to visit their loved ones, but are not intending to relocate to join them fully, what is expected is the short stay ‘C’ visit (family/friend) visa and not short stay ‘C’ visit (tourist) visa.
Why is this important. If for instance, a person apply strictly for short stay ‘C’ visit (tourist) visa and did not disclosed that they have family resident in Ireland, should the VO gets to know by chance or anyhow, then the application can be deem false presentence!. By now, we all know what the outcome will be. That is if it did not even include the 5yrs ban!
^{There's a limit to what I can put on public online post. However, let me codely speak from personal. Some years back, actually some decades, I wanted to visit Ireland for 2wks within my annual leave. Put in the application. Till date, Abuja doesn't have outcome for my application with reference. I held on to the ref and email correspondence of my enquires}. Fast forward, about 8 or 9 yrs after, I wanted to go to Ireland for the Easter break. This time across the isle from UK. Emailed them Abuja and Dublin, they said they can't trace. Dilemma 1
Well, went to their office in London.
For this visit, my brother is in Ireland, however, I wanted to surprise him. Dilemma 2
I just told the VO, I had this situation years back (the dilemma 1) and that I'm aware I have a brother in Ireland, but this visit is me going for few days (practically for the long weekend just like any one will take Eurostar to cross the canal and come back) and within the visit, I'll give my brother w surprise visit. I was emphatic on the surprise visit aspect. Long story short, visa granted. I've been in and out of Ireland even from other countries.

Just be transparent as much as you can. No need embellishing.
Kindly note, Ireland has a category for dependent: join family. The non-EEA Category A and some Category B (the one applicable to students is restricted to PhD students) Yep, it takes months!!
www.irishimmigration.ie/coming-to-join-family-in-ireland/joining-a-non-eea-non-swiss-national/

Regarding your current plan
1. I do not think you need to revisit your earlier refusal. Let is stay in the past it belong. IMHO, no need passing the buck as in casting the agent. You might just score a own goal! However, you must declare the refusal and articulate how your circumstances has changed and why/how this study is beneficial/critical to your career going forward. Kindly take note of ICaSNG valuable inputs (her addition to my earlier post). It's essential in your case given the earlier refusal was for visit and not study.
2. My opinion will be, if you can afford it, rather opt for the UK study. You should get uni that'll take you on for Masters? You just need to search. Nonetheless, the 'noise', the Suella and the possible PSW changes.
As you rightly stated, you and your hubby can meet frequently in the UK. With time, you might be able to get visa to go over.
3. Regarding the HND lower credit, with diligent search, you should get. More so, if you articulate on your work experiences. For this, go for uni that consider/offer RPL: Recognition of Prior Learning (some might have different terminology). With that said, have you considered doing a conversion course in 9ja b4 proceeding to UK/Ireland
4. Regarding strong ties, I'm not in a position to speak to that.
_{PS: this is not a binding opinion construed as a legal opinion}

ICaSNg:


True both countries share Data. You can apply to the UK but will need to ensure the following:

If you intend going for a 1 year PG program- pay full tuition and ensure you have a verifiable proof of employment that establishes that you can afford to study in the UK , a verifiable and genuine bank statement in your name or your parents with the required amount needed as POF, proof that you will not breach the travel agreement between the UK and Republic o Ireland

Prosper123:
Hello, I got a nursing work in Ireland but the issue is that in my ielts result, I got a total of band 7. But got 5.5 in writing, whereas I need 6.5 in any one of the four modules. That spoiled the result.
Please can I go ahead and apply for visa and later rewrite in Ireland before I get my nmbi pin. Will it affect my visa. Can it cause my visa to be refused.
Somebody said the ielts score for embassy may be different from the ielts requirement for nmbi.
I don't know

Prosper123:

Please someone should help me answer the question. I don't need the ones asking me for my number for personal messages.

ICaSNg:


Do you have your critical work approval ? Because the English test requirement is not just for the embassy , its part of the requirement to get all required government documentation required before you submit an application in Nigeria.

If you can, retake the IELTS exam or speak to the Employer sponsoring your permit if you can go ahead to submit your application

bisi16:
Hello all. Does Ireland allow spouse visa for M.sc student?

Laisirepublic:
Pls don't pay for house yet until u get dia..the one u see to that fair buh demand an instant payment might be a scam..u can travel down to Dublin lodge ursef in a hotel and look to.see for ursef Any accomodation u wish..My opinion.

Untube:
Hello house, please how do I explain lump sum of money that I sent from my account to my other account. I sent money from FirstBank to my GTbank, and I want to use my GTbank account as a statent of account because I paid my tuition and edubond through the GTbank.
Please I need your candid advice

semmyk:
1. Show proof that the FirstBank belongs to you
2. Explain the nature and sources of funds in the FirstBank
2.1 if there are lump sum in the FirstBank, explain this/these: possible cover 1yr (or even 2yrs)