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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:06pm On Oct 18, 2022
Theflint1:
The response from Ruben Abati is no different from what you guys have been bringing in his defense. If only the person that asked that question knew Tinubu had answers crammed, even when it doesn't apply, he won't have bothered asking the question.

Its not a defence its the right thing and approach for a poor nation

Your screenshot are the effect of climate change the main cause of climate change is emission of C)2 which Nigeria contrbutes about 0.3% to
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 4:11pm On Oct 18, 2022
izzou:


I'm glad you have the balls to not be a Bot today.

Do you have the time for us to have a deep dive into those tweets?

Or you will ghost me again?

So, did our resident PO self-servicer show courage of his convictions?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 4:14pm On Oct 18, 2022
So in essence, because we contribute little to climate change yet suffer for it, we should do nothing about it, even in situations where we can actually do something.
raumdeuter:


Its not a defence its the right thing and approach for a poor nation

Your screenshot are the effect of climate change the main cause of climate change is emission of C)2 which Nigeria contrbutes about 0.3% to
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:25pm On Oct 18, 2022
Theflint1:
So in essence, because we contribute little to climate change yet suffer for it, we should do nothing about it, even in situations where we can actually do something.

The solution is not in our hands. The West and China can solve this if they want
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:26pm On Oct 18, 2022
Yeah someone said Tinubu has travelled out again

Yes he traveled out to meet Osinbajo in Abuja

https://www.nairaland.com/7389465/tinubu-meets-osinbajo-abuja-pictures
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:30pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


I will put you in the position of IPOB and ask when do you think its okay to kill people because of your agitations for whatever?

Do you know how many people get killed daily by these ESN and IPOB people?

You think everyone does not have a grievance in life? Is there anyone that does not have a grievance with somethng in life?
Why have you not gone out to kill people because you suffer from whatever

So when BokoHaram tells you their agitation and herdsmen tell theirs that should justify their murderous acts
oh...grievances cant be measured and anything involving death is extreme and that is normal irrespective how anyone sees it.

BAT said he doesn't believe in One Nigeria and i believe he said that due to his overview of the FG mondus operandi.

But same BAT has forgotten his view due to eagerness to clinch power..

On d other hand, Obi sees, on his perspective the marginalization of a certain tribe but cannot have a double tongue for presidency sake.

His view is well spread across d internet about secessionist and i am glad he has a smart way to avoid talks wch draws him into such an absurd debates..

Ibop..Oduduwa and Arewa represents each zones...and in all honesty should be treated fairly to avoid menance...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chrisooblog: 4:34pm On Oct 18, 2022
As much as the guy started it with his provocative and abusive tweet as a public official Abike Dabiri shouldn't have responded in that manner.

Even if she was a regular citizen her status prescribes certain level of behavior.

izzou:


You did not make any sense to me, to be honest

The guy called her Mumu. That was the beginning of the tweet he showed. Address that one first

Secondly, Abike said "People like him". I am a Nigerian and i am not like him. I dont call people Mumu for no reason.

Theflint brought up a funny reason of stereotyping Nigerians and that was why I said that. It had nothing to do with the argument.

So yes, she is well within her rights to call him whatever she calls him.

If you cannot address the fact that he insulted her first, there is nothing about this case that would make sense to you
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:36pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:

oh...grievances cant be measured and anything involving death is extreme and that is normal irrespective how anyone sees it.

BAT said he doesn't believe in One Nigeria and i believe he said that due to his overview of the FG mondus operandi.

But same BAT has forgotten his view due to eagerness to clinch power..

On d other hand, Obi sees, on his perspective the marginalization of a certain tribe but cannot have a double tongue for presidency sake.

His view is well spread across d internet about secessionist and i am glad he has a smart way to avoid talks to draw him into such an absurd debates..

Ibop..Oduduwa and Arewa represents each zones...and in all honesty should be treated fairly to avoid menance...


Are you or Obi able to condemn the killings and violence by ESN and IPOB, Obi has said he cannot condemn it. Can you condemn the violence or can you give a good explanation why people like Obi cannot condemn killing of security forces, killing of innocent men. Akunyilis husband was killed on the street like a dog yet Obi cannot condemn

Is there any reason Obi cannot condemn the killings of security forces and innocents by ESN and IPOB?

And his excuse was that he wasnt the founder?

Segendinho can you condemn the killing by BokoHaram of innocent people all over Nigeria? And your response is that you are not the founder
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:38pm On Oct 18, 2022
ribbit:
this is another double standard we are talking about.

Esn and ipob have been causing violence, killing security, civilians and forcing people to stay at home on Mondays in south east. But that's okay, government should dialogue with them and not condemn their activities.

What do ipob and esn want? Biafran state. Because they are tired of Nigeria marginalizing them for some reason.


Now let's imagine shetima comes to south and someone asked him to condemn Boko Haram and then he refuses, telling everyone point blank that he cannot condemn the activities of groups he didn't create.
How are you going to react to it?


What do Boko Haram want? Islamic state. Because they are tired of western education being embraced by Nigerian state.
That is bull crap u put up there.

Boko harram isn't fighting for separation due to marginalization...their wants is obnoxious and cant stand up for a debate
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:41pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:
That is bull crap u put up there.

Boko harram isn't fighting for separation due to marginalization...their wants is obnoxious and cant stand up for a debate

So you are able to justify ESN violence and telling us its due to marginalization. You think a BokoHaram person is not able to justify their own violence too using whatever excuse

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:44pm On Oct 18, 2022
ribbit:
this is another double standard we are talking about.

Esn and ipob have been causing violence, killing security, civilians and forcing people to stay at home on Mondays in south east. But that's okay, government should dialogue with them and not condemn their activities.

What do ipob and esn want? Biafran state. Because they are tired of Nigeria marginalizing them for some reason.


Now let's imagine shetima comes to south and someone asked him to condemn Boko Haram and then he refuses, telling everyone point blank that he cannot condemn the activities of groups he didn't create.
How are you going to react to it?


What do Boko Haram want? Islamic state. Because they are tired of western education being embraced by Nigerian state.
That is bull crap u put up there.

Boko harram isn't fighting for separation due to marginalization...their wants is obnoxious and cant stand up for a debate.

Ipob...Arewa and Oduduwa represents differnt geo-zones fighting against oppression and marginalization..


Like i said earlier,there is no justifiable reasons to kill your next neighbour but we are built differently and handle agressive scene differently...

If you want Obi to openly criticise Ibop to create a vacuum for his presidency then u are grasping at straw.......BAT can as well be called upon to disassociate himself from Nigeria since he doesnt believe in One Nigeria.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:46pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


So you are able to justify ESN violence and telling us its due to marginalization. You think a BokoHaram person is not able to justify their own violence too using whatever excuse
stop twisting baba....killing is bad and not justifiable...

There is a reason there are different punishments for different scene that involves death.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 4:47pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:

stop twisting baba....killing is bad and not justifiable...

There is a reason there are different punishments for different scene that involves death.

So if its bad and not justifiable is it condemnable? If its condemnable, why did Obi refuse to condemn it especially when its happening in his home state

What is the plausible argument that will make IPOB killing of policemen and innocent civilians less egregious than the killing done by BokoHaram

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 4:50pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


So if its bad and not justifiable is it condemnable? If its condemnable, why did Obi refuse to condemn it especially when its happening in his home state

What is the plausible argument that will make IPOB killing of policemen and innocent civilians less egregious than the killing done by BokoHaram
Is his condemnation dependent on what is bad and good

your applaud to death scene doesnt make it right...

Media are setting him up against and Obi is wise enough
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ribbit: 4:59pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:

That is bull crap u put up there.

Boko harram isn't fighting for separation due to marginalization...their wants is obnoxious and cant stand up for a debate
hehehehehe

And who appointed you the judge of right and wrong agitation?

What about bandits? Should government condemn bandits?
What do you feel about government paying bandits?
Isn't poverty enough for government dialogue with every terrorist organization?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 5:03pm On Oct 18, 2022
ribbit:
hehehehehe

And who appointed you the judge of right and wrong agitation?

What about bandits? Should government condemn bandits?
What do you feel about government paying bandits?
Isn't poverty enough for government dialogue with every terrorist organization?






don't be sentimental.....baba.

Killing is wrong and doesn't require a judge to pronounce it ...

Does Arewa....Ibop and Oduduwa receives thesame treatments from FG...

Every gov except my beloved country are keen to protect her citizen using d best ideology.

Protections starts from how you treats and responds to different issues frm differnt tribes and zones..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Emaprince: 5:04pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


So if its bad and not justifiable is it condemnable? If its condemnable, why did Obi refuse to condemn it especially when its happening in his home state

What is the plausible argument that will make IPOB killing of policemen and innocent civilians less egregious than the killing done by BokoHaram
So all you want is for Obi to condemn it? If he do so, will that automatically stop it? Words of mouth means nothing. The killings are bad and the perpetrators should be arrested and dealt with..simple.

Atiku condemned the killing of Deborah.. then denied it after some backlash from his people.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:05pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:

Is his condemnation dependent on what is bad and good

your applaud to death scene doesnt make it right...

Media are setting him up against and Obi is wise enough

Media is asking a key issue on his opinion and non condemnation of terrorists who are making a art of the country ungovernable

They want to know if he is in support since he never condemned it and given the opportunity, he refused to condemn again

Do you condemn the activities of IPOB and ESN

Response : I did not create them

Segedinho Are you the founder of BokoHaram before you could condemn their activities?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:09pm On Oct 18, 2022
Emaprince:
So all you want is for Obi to condemn it? If he do so, will that automatically stop it? Words of mouth means nothing. The killings are bad and the perpetrators should be arrested and dealt with..simple.

Atiku condemned the killing of Deborah.. then denied it after some backlash from his people.

The media is trying to know where he stands on it, Does Obi support the activities of IPOB or NOT. Does he condemn the killings and atrocities

Do you condemn the killing by ESN, Bokoharam? I suspect your answer is Yes. despite it not automatically stopping it
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 5:09pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


Media is asking a key issue on his opinion and non condemnation of terrorists who are making a art of the country ungovernable

They want to know if he is in support since he never condemned it and given the opportunity, he refused to condemn again

Do you condemn the activities of IPOB and ESN

Response : I did not create them

Segedinhoare you the founder of BokoHaram before you could condemn their activities?
He said...secessionist are doing so due to marginalization and would rectify it thru dialogue if given d chance..


His opinion could br cracked up from that statement......He is being extremely cautions with his utterance to everyone that have d right to be unhappy about how she is being treated by FG
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:10pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:

He said...secessionist are doing so due to marginalization and would rectify it thru dialogue if given d chance..


His opinion could br cracked up from that statement......He is being extremely cautions with his utterance to everyone that have d right to be unhappy about how she is being treated by FG

And when you are unhappy and you kill innocent people because of your sadness, Obi can just look away
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 5:13pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


And when you are unhappy and you kill innocent people because of your sadness, Obi can just look away

Doesn't he has d right to as a normal citizen?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:15pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:

Doesn't he has d right to ?


Of course, He has the right to look away and refuse to condemn the killings of innocent military and civilians in the country for his ambitions
He even has the right to justify it like he has always done
This week ESN will kill more people and Obi will just look away, explain it away, justify it, act as their spokesman

I have always maintained that Obi is closely linked with IPOB and this further buttressed it

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 5:17pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


Of course, He has the right to look away and refuse to condemn the killings of innocent military and civilians in the country for his ambitions
He even has the right to justify it like he has always done
This week ESN will kill more people and Obi will just look away, explain it away, justify it, act as their spokesman

I have always maintained that Obi is closely linked with IPOB and this further buttressed it
Lols..

He is responsible for gibing solutions and he has done that on several occasion.


so he isnt responsible for d izu river bruhaha anymore
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 5:26pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


Are you or Obi able to condemn the killings and violence by ESN and IPOB, Obi has said he cannot condemn it. Can you condemn the violence or can you give a good explanation why people like Obi cannot condemn killing of security forces, killing of innocent men. Akunyilis husband was killed on the street like a dog yet Obi cannot condemn

Is there any reason Obi cannot condemn the killings of security forces and innocents by ESN and IPOB?

And his excuse was that he wasnt the founder?

Segendinho can you condemn the killing by BokoHaram of innocent people all over Nigeria? And your response is that you are not the founder


Has Obi condemned IPOB?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by ribbit: 5:28pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:



don't be sentimental.....baba.

Killing is wrong and doesn't require a judge to pronounce it ...

Does Arewa....Ibop and Oduduwa receives thesame treatments from FG...

Every gov except my beloved country are keen to protect her citizen using d best ideology.

Protections starts from how you treats and responds to different issues frm differnt tribes and zones..



Stop being overly emotional, bro.

Here it is, No one appointed you the judge of right or wrong agitation.

Islam is very important in the north. Some groups, {Boko Haram iswap} are tired of western education disrupting their Islamic way of life in the north and they want government to enforce Islamic education against Western education. Not all northerners support their activities but the groups exist and their agitation is well known.
You are not a northerner, you are not a Muslim and you believe strongly in western education, so automatically you believe they should be crushed and any politician saying people should dialogue with them should be condemned.

Now let's replace Islam with Biafra and boko Haram/iswap with ipob and esn.

What makes your own agitation superior?
Who is marginalizing south east? Who is forcing the corrupt secular law of Nigeria on the north instead of sharia Law?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:32pm On Oct 18, 2022
Segedinho:

Lols..

He is responsible for gibing solutions and he has done that on several occasion.
so he isnt responsible for d izu river bruhaha anymore

They are asking him specifically if he condemns the killings and his response was "I did not create ESN"

Segedinho do you condemn BokoHaram killings? "I did not create BokoHaram"

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 5:32pm On Oct 18, 2022
liveLongNprospa:



Has Obi condemned IPOB?

Condemn IPOB? When he told us that he is not the founder

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 5:40pm On Oct 18, 2022
ribbit:
Stop being overly emotional, bro.

Here it is,
No one appointed you the judge of right or wrong agitation.

Islam is very important in the north and some groups, {Boko Haram iswap} are tired of western education disrupting their Islamic way of life in the north and they want government to enforce Islamic education against Western education. Not all northerners support their activities but the groups exist and their agitation is well known.
You are not a northerner, you are not a Muslim and you believe strongly in western education, so automatically you believe they should be crushed and any politician saying people should dialogue with them should be condemned.

Now let's replace Islam with Biafra and boko Haram iswap with ipob and esn.

What makes your own agitation superior?
Who is marginalizing south east? Who is forcing the corrupt secular law of Nigeria on the north instead of sharia Law?
You see why you takes are considered as out of hand

what is d relationship bw Boko harram and asking out from d federation

If they want out...then that is another ball game entirely...they detest Westernisation but don't want to be cut off..does that seems right to you...


Ibop...Oduduwa and Arewa wants fair gov policy distributed evenly without bias.....that is a noble wants....


Your BATs say he doesn't want One Nigeria ..i think that should be something you should be talking about not an innocent person's opinion on agitation

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 5:41pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


Condemn IPOB? When he told us that he is not the founder

Has Obi condemned the actions of IPOB?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Segedinho(m): 5:41pm On Oct 18, 2022
raumdeuter:


They are asking him specifically if he condemns the killings and his response was "I did not create ESN"

Segedinho do you condemn BokoHaram killings? "I did not create BokoHaram"

He is wise enough to detect d propaganda that will be blown out of proportion...

That is sensitivity...
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 5:44pm On Oct 18, 2022
Why is no one talking about wike anti party activities

https://www.nairaland.com/7389726/aisha-buhari-greets-wike-e

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