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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 4:38pm On Oct 31, 2022
rvp2018:
No, we are little Indians. We'll rather ignore the starving Kenyans. R I P to them in advance.
That must be the R I P in your name. grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 4:40pm On Oct 31, 2022
Fix flooding - we will come for lessons. Okay start with man made problems like islamic extermist and fulani herdsmen impunity
obaaderemi:
That must be the R I P in your name. grin grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 5:08pm On Oct 31, 2022
rvp2018:
Fix flooding - we will come for lessons. Okay start with man made problems like islamic extermist and fulani herdsmen impunity
Just don't ignore starving Kenyans because helping them is not cost-effective. It's a humanitarian problem. grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 5:13pm On Oct 31, 2022
we are not. We cant fix the root cause. So we are always ready to mitigate the drought effects. Maybe we can slow down desertification but to stop drought is impossible.

We run one africa most comprehensive social safety net - we send money to drought victims (if there is drought), orphans, disabled, old people - monthly - nigerian you cant even dream of it.

https://www.socialprotection.or.ke/

obaaderemi:
Just don't ignore starving Kenyans because helping them is not cost-effective. It's a humanitarian problem. grin

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 5:32pm On Oct 31, 2022
POKUASI2:
one can actually sense hunger in this BS.
Imagine a country where 8 in 10 people you come across have ULCER during the good old days.
The new phenomenon now is people taking their own lives cos they can't continue to suffer..
Does this look like hunger to you ?

Ulcer is not even among the first 100 lifestyle conditions reported at hospitals.

If you have ulcer because you can't feed yourself, its only because you're lazy and not bright.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 5:45pm On Oct 31, 2022
rvp2018:
we are not. We cant fix the root cause. So we are always ready to mitigate the drought effects. Maybe we can slow down desertification but to stop drought is impossible.

We run one africa most comprehensive social safety net - we send money to drought victims (if there is drought), orphans, disabled, old people - monthly - nigerian you cant even dream of it.

https://www.socialprotection.or.ke/

In Nigeria, we have NEMA to take care of such things. Thank you.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 5:46pm On Oct 31, 2022
KaziKazi - you gotta slow down childbirth.

Tanzania's population has grown by 37.4% over the past decade, threatening to outstrip the country's ability to provide basic services to citizens

▶️ Males: 30,053,130 (49%)

▶️ Females : 31,687,990 (51%)

Total population: 61,741,120 (2022)

Previous census: 44,928,923 (2012)
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 5:49pm On Oct 31, 2022
NEMA is equivalent to NATIONAL DISASTER RESPONSE of kenya.
Show me social protection/safety net where you send money monthly to old, disabled, vulnerable,orphan, hungry people like kenya.
That is why Tanzania have invaded our country with their disabled.

Any disabled kenyan get paid monthly stipend; same with any old kenya over 70yrs; same with any orphan;

obaaderemi:
In Nigeria, we have NEMA to take care of such things. Thank you.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 6:09pm On Oct 31, 2022
rvp2018:
KaziKazi - you gotta slow down childbirth.

Tanzania's population has grown by 37.4% over the past decade, threatening to outstrip the country's ability to provide basic services to citizens

▶️ Males: 30,053,130 (49%)

▶️ Females : 31,687,990 (51%)

Total population: 61,741,120 (2022)

Previous census: 44,928,923 (2012)
we knew it even before the sensa.Our NBS has very qualified people who projected it to be 31,300,000 folks, the sensa exercise came up with a real figure of 61,741,120.
So NBS were 98% correct.Sometimes I feel like we don't need to count people anymore

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 6:11pm On Oct 31, 2022
Defaulting

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:15pm On Oct 31, 2022
rvp2018:
NEMA is equivalent to NATIONAL DISASTER RESPONSE of kenya.
Show me social protection/safety net where you send money monthly to old, disabled, vulnerable,orphan, hungry people like kenya.
That is why Tanzania have invaded our country with their disabled.

Any disabled kenyan get paid monthly stipend; same with any old kenya over 70yrs; same with any orphan;

That's the job of NASSCO - Nigeria National Social Safety-Net Coordination Office.
https://socialprotection.org/connect/stakeholders/nigeria-national-social-safety-nets-coordinating-office-nassco

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 6:29pm On Oct 31, 2022
rvp2018:
NEMA is equivalent to NATIONAL DISASTER RESPONSE of kenya.
Show me social protection/safety net where you send money monthly to old, disabled, vulnerable,orphan, hungry people like kenya.
That is why Tanzania have invaded our country with their disabled.

Any disabled kenyan get paid monthly stipend; same with any old kenya over 70yrs; same with any orphan;

Tanzania has TASAF,all poor households are getting money to lift them out of poverty.

But kenya looks like you have failed big time.Almost 60 years of independence have been nothing but starving

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by SUFFERInSMILIIN(m): 7:04pm On Oct 31, 2022
obaaderemi:
That's the job of NASSCO - Nigeria National Social Safety-Net Coordination Office.
https://socialprotection.org/connect/stakeholders/nigeria-national-social-safety-nets-coordinating-office-nassco


You have a lot of big words but at the moment you are failing to rescue Nigeria dollar hit against naira one u.s. dollar is 815 naira

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by PROVERBZ(m): 7:11pm On Oct 31, 2022
SUFFERInSMILIIN:



You have a lot of big words but at the moment you are failing to rescue Nigeria dollar hit against naira one u.s. dollar is 815 naira
parallel market!!

What a dommy
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:42pm On Oct 31, 2022
Easy to estimate the pop but census is more than that.
Kazikazi:
we knew it even before the sensa.Our NBS has very qualified people who projected it to be 31,300,000 folks, the sensa exercise came up with a real figure of 61,741,120.
So NBS were 98% correct.Sometimes I feel like we don't need to count people anymore
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 7:47pm On Oct 31, 2022
PROVERBZ:
parallel market!!

What a dommy
Parallel market may likely be scrapped next year. It's illegal and mostly based on speculations.
Once the CBN can control the amount of cash circulating and Nigeria stops importing fuel, it would only make sense to make the bank rate/official rate open to all.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 7:55pm On Oct 31, 2022
Yeah it's twice the official rate now.
SUFFERInSMILIIN:



You have a lot of big words but at the moment you are failing to rescue Nigeria dollar hit against naira one u.s. dollar is 815 naira

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:58pm On Oct 31, 2022
PROVERBZ:
parallel market!!
What a dommy
That one is a lunatic.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:27pm On Oct 31, 2022
Obaboon,
Told you 50M is like change in Telcom sector
https://www.businessdailyafrica.com/bd/markets/market-news/risky-borrowers-to-pay-higher-m-shwari-charges-in-new-model-4003036
The Kenya unit has seen a flurry of regulatory actions in the last three months, mainly on payment of licence fees, decoupling of the mobile money business and acquisition of additional 4G mobile spectrum.

In May, Airtel Kenya paid the sector regulator Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) $5 million (Sh606 million) as part payment for its operating and spectrum licence running from 2015 to 2025.

The initial payment was an outcome of an out-of-court settlement with the government following a protracted dispute over licence fee claims, where the telco agreed to pay $20 million (Sh2.4 billion) in four instalments over three years.

The telco has also been paying for additional capacity in recent months, starting with a $10 million (Sh1.2 billion) payment in March for a network licence it will be allowed to use for 10 years to cater for the increased demand for its mobile data services.

On July 25, Airtel Africa disclosed that its Kenyan unit had paid the CA $40 million (Sh4.8 billion) for a licence on additional fourth-generation (4G) Internet services in the country—60 MHz of additional spectrum in the 2600 MHz band.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 8:33pm On Oct 31, 2022
GeneralDae:

Parallel market may likely be scrapped next year. It's illegal and mostly based on speculations.
Once the CBN can control the amount of cash circulating and Nigeria stops importing fuel, it would only make sense to make the bank rate/official rate open to all.
what do u think about redesigning d naira note? At this time, for that matter.... And why the rush too? Cos me never see any convincing reason sha.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 8:35pm On Oct 31, 2022
obaaderemi:
The ones I pity are his children. He believes like the fool he is. Always arguing blindly.
don't mind him jare.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Justnotyou: 8:42pm On Oct 31, 2022
kikuyu1:


We LOOONNG ago demolished the Bantu Migration Theory on ToT! The idea that Bantus in S Naij/ M Cameroon first developed Steel circa 1000 bc then expanded outward via the Congo Forest for some reason is complete B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T!?
It's, an invention, an extremely successful one to separate us from ancient Egypt and the ME.
Just think: they didn't build canoes and sail south down the coast but decided to trek across the impenetrable Ituri in small groups which conveniently leaves no trace. You do know of the 8000 yr old Dufuna canoe from Yobe not too far from the putative Bantu Homeland?
At the same time few if any Bantu oral history has a cultural memory of such a population transfer!

Here's the regional analysis of King Tut's fam. Our Kamba cousins to our drier NE also have ME origins.


https://hubpages.com/politics/Falsification-of-Africas-history

The Cameroonian Bassa, a Bantu people have been identified as Tamil speakers by a Tamil!!

https://youtu.be/vWyAYGlFZjk

To fully understand African history first abandon the idea of tribes and or language groups. Those categories aren't as neat as we think. There's ALWAYS been cultural and genetic links across ALL African population groups-learning Kikuyu history taught me this.
A mere glance at a group of say 10 Kikuyus shows simultaneous Nilotic, Bambuti, OROMO and Semitic elements! I've even heard Naijjans here on this thread and in Nairobi wonder why we're Fulani.

Here are Niger Congo elements identified in the earliest Chinese dialect by Hong Kong uni.


http://sinica.academia.edu/JonathanEvans/Papers/167301/African_tone_in_the_Sinosphere

Their tonal type is more African than Chinese in 10 out of 12 respects ,specifically Dagaare ,spoken in Ghana as far as Burkina Faso. The language is of the Niger-Congo family.

I had pix of these Kuki Thaddou speakers on my hard drive and tab but IDKWTF happened- NADA!? Anyway, in the 1890s many of these Upper Burmese people looked Polynesian with frizzy hair and dark complexions. Now, though ofc assimilation with Chinese has bleached them out.
Let me leave with the Mangbetu from the middle of Africa. A Sudanic people they're famous for skull binding and their labial trill.


https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Voiceless_bilabial_trill

15000 km + away and 2 groups share distinct linguistic and cultural body modification practices- could it be coincidence?

I've known 2 people over the years who clued me in as to how real life anthropological field teams actually operate.
One, a White American with so much black blood in an earlier era you'd think he was "passing" said many such teams are riddled with ACTIVE Intel agents. They steal, fake and/or deface their findings.
Another acquaintance, a BA female with an actual anthropology degree gave up over a decade ago. The professors are ALL on code: findings aren't just stolen,faked and/or defaced but hidden away to be shown at STRICTLY private exhibitions owned by their sponsors, usually the familiar names of biz moguls.
These are guys with personal 747s on standby!
Yes, they've their own secret societies, ala Skull and Bones, Scroll and Key etc,etc. It's all a private club of secret initiates- the billionaire sponsor who can fund a 6 month dig in N Iraq for 6 months incl armed security costing upward of 10 mn$, the Prof and eager student acolytes: all work to keep this knowledge to themselves.
IIRC, she personally knew of 6 ongoing private ME digs around 2005-2007.
On realising this she saw how lucky she was to graduate and left the field to try new things.
I'll ALWAYS rmbr her say " you wouldn't believe what they've found. The worst thing is they'll NEVER reveal it cause to do so would provoke unwanted questions."
Goodness, but this is long! Point being do your own research without being tied down by the ethnic or linguistic considerations of others.
But be careful- you may go far,far down the rabbit hole.....

The bantu language most definitely diffused from eastern Nigeria/western Cameron, there is empirical evidence to support it, all one can do is add more data to that factual theory.

What you're focusing on is the genetic diffusion. & you're partly right, southern bantus have clear khoisan admixture, eastern bantus like the tutsis & kikuyu have nilo-cushitic ancestry, & central bantus have pygmy ancestry, & other communities have bantu ancestry as well.

Take Obama as a base, he's undoubtedly American today but he can as well trace his roots to Eastern Africa but that's not all.

Say someone digs his ancestry further & finds out he also has European ancestry, it'll be factual to say he's European but you can't omit his African ancestry just because you've found out he's also European, since humans are complex we all can't be placed in separate boxes & call it facts...

We are all in the end mixed people.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:44pm On Oct 31, 2022
theenchanter:
what do u think about redesigning d naira note? At this time, for that matter.... And why the rush too? Cos me never see any convincing reason sha.
I have no problem with it.

The CBN have not redesigned the naira note since 2005.

80% of raw cash (money notes) in circulation are not controlled by the Banks.

It would affect politicians looking to buy votes.

The CBN along the line would be able to control demand driven inflation better especially when they increase rates.

The timing (christmas and election) means in November, these guys who hold cash may either be forced to spend ( economy grows further), save in their banks (good for Banks) or convert to dollars (see my last point below).

Most important of all, it is a bold step aimed at pushing more Nigerians into the cashless arena. We already have the most advanced payment infrastructure in Africa and one of the top six in the world. This is the time more people would be forced to adopt the cashless policy.

There may be a price to pay within the first few months e.g politicians and the rest of those who stock up cash demanding the dollar more at the black market, etc but it would be short lived.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Justnotyou: 8:50pm On Oct 31, 2022
rvp2018:
I think without getting into details - there is no doubt that jewish place in the map has led distortion of history - Europeans wanting to own Jews (before wanting to exterminate them next) - and therefore trying to delink them from it's semitic history. This of course of the Jewish history as successful people and the origin of Christianity...therefore like Ancient Egypt...many racist historians (pretty much everyone of them before genetics) tried to delink it from Africa.

Close home - there is no doubt genetically that Niger-Congo/Nilo-Saharan and Afro-Asiatic (Semites like jews, Arabs, Cushites, etc) is close - E1b1b and E1b1a are genetically older brothers - what people call Middle East and Africa are essentially genetically very close - Arab/Jew/African are closer than other races. Same way Indian and European are closer.

Of course, now we have more tools to use to study history; Linguistic; genetics; anthropology.

Where did they live - I think the most I have seen is somewhere in Chad and the Sahara when it was not a desert like now - then they obviously split into modern tapestry - as the Sahara dried up - the semites moving westward along the west nile (now buried) - then all the way to Arabia/Isreal - and the others following nile down south - an niger river down south.

As for Bantus - I hold the majoritarian view that they came from border of Cameroon and East of Nigeria - as cousins of Igbo-Yorubas - spread through eastern and southern africa.

Suffice to say because of jewish exceptional achievements as a people - everyone wants to be part of their history.


Semites are generally closer to Europeans than they are to Africans genetically, linguistically they're indeed closer to Africans.

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 9:07pm On Oct 31, 2022
GeneralDae:

I have no problem with it.

The CBN have not redesigned the naira note since 2005.

80% of raw cash (money notes) in circulation are not controlled by the Banks.

It would affect politicians looking to buy votes.

The CBN along the line would be able to control demand driven inflation better especially when they increase rates.

The timing (christmas and election) means in November, these guys who hold cash may either be forced to spend ( economy grows further), save in their banks (good for Banks) or convert to dollars (see my last point below).

Most important of all, it is a bold step aimed at pushing more Nigerians into the cashless arena. We already have the most advanced payment infrastructure in Africa and one of the top six in the world. This is the time more people would be forced to adopt the cashless policy.

There may be a price to pay within the first few months e.g politicians and the rest of those who stock up cash demanding the dollar more at the black market, etc but it would be short lived.

hmmmn..... If what makes the cbn not to be in control of 80% raw cash is not dealt with, I don't see how redesigning the currency will change anything, maybe in the short term, yes, but in long term, I don't think so.

Buhari did same in 84" or there about, nothing changed. But I'm optimistic, because of u sha. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:16pm On Oct 31, 2022
theenchanter:
hmmmn..... If what makes the cbn not to be in control of 80% raw cash is not dealt with, I don't see how redesigning the currency will change anything, maybe in the short term, yes, but in long term, I don't think so.

Buhari did same in 84" or there about, nothing changed. But in optimistic, because of u sha. grin
After the CFA, the naira is perhaps one of the most used and abused currency in West Africa. Naira is everywhere in those Francophone countries and much of it used illegally according to several economic experts whom I have listened to on this matter. Also we see the case of Ikoyi building with so much cash and other stuff like that.

You are right, CBN must get their acts right this time and maybe they are giving themselves a second chance in that area after 17years.

Buhari did same in 1984 and we suffered but we suffered because there were very little options left. Now we have Payment systems and CBN desperately wants the E naira to grow further as well.

Optimistic because of me?? lol grin. Na una be my oga oo. If una my oga say CBN match line, then who I be??
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 9:16pm On Oct 31, 2022
Kenyan army have failed to fight off the M23 rebels in DRC.
Ordinary folks are really fed up


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qSACQnEQBg

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 9:29pm On Oct 31, 2022
rvp2018:
Easy to estimate the pop but census is more than that.
Who don't know the sensa exercise contains many stuff?
But do u know u can get all those information they are seeking without blowing all those big monies doing a sensa.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 9:58pm On Oct 31, 2022
theenchanter:
don't mind him jare.
He's an idiot. He's even trying to rehash an old argument over telecommunication stuff. And he's still not making sense. The kid. cheesy

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:32pm On Oct 31, 2022
Justnotyou:


Semites are generally closer to Europeans than they are to Africans genetically, linguistically they're indeed closer to Africans.
They've definitely intermarried with Europeans for thousand of years..but historically the Jews and Arabs and north Africans are very close
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:33pm On Oct 31, 2022
obaaderemi:
He's an idiot. He's even trying to rehash an old argument over telecommunication stuff. And he's still not making sense. The kid. cheesy
obaboon why don't you just cry over it then get over it...
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:35pm On Oct 31, 2022
Kazikazi:
Who don't know the sensa exercise contains many stuff?
But do u know u can get all those information they are seeking without blowing all those big monies doing a sensa.
So you don't claim it cooked... census should be done every 5yrs.. Africa we are trying every 10 yrs.. Nigeria couldn't afford it

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