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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:30pm On Nov 05, 2022
codemaniacs:


This is very wrong especially when in most cases it's the wingers that will lead counter attacks and not the fullbacks.

It's thinking like yours that's one of the reasons Super Eagles didn't qualify for the world cup.

Crossing or low crossing or passing into box puts pressure on the opposition and keeps the ball in the opposition's half of the field as it can lead to corners and this reduces the amount of shots your GK will face...

What I wrote there wasn't from my thinking..it is an analysis of how the modern game is . You can prove me wrong... How many top wingers in today's game are still playing crosses? How many top teams still use that style? In fact, how many wingers still play the traditional style of wingers hugging the touchline? Name some of them for me...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:32pm On Nov 05, 2022
fabyom:
What about Robinson and Trent? He has scored 4 goals for Super Eagles and only one came through header.

Who is Robinson? Is Trent a winger? Trent is one of the main source of creativity in Klopp's system..He and Salah play the same wings,you won't see Salah playing crosses into the box.. that clearly highlight my point that in the modern game, wingers don't do much crossing of the ball.. Somebody said our wingers should be crossing the ball for Onuachu...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BannedLarge: 5:39pm On Nov 05, 2022
Danielnino00:


Who is Robinson? Is Trent a winger? Trent is one of the main source of creativity in Klopp's system..He and Salah play the same wings,you won't see Salah playing crosses into the box.. that clearly highlight my point that in the modern game, wingers don't do much crossing of the ball.. Somebody said our wingers should be crossing the ball for Onuachu...

Funny enough, Bassey can cross a ball well but he is our best CB at the moment and will be wasted at LB

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 5:48pm On Nov 05, 2022
Danielnino00:


What I wrote there wasn't from my thinking..it is an analysis of how the modern game is . You can prove me wrong... How many top wingers in today's game are still playing crosses? How many top teams still use that style? In fact, how many wingers still play the traditional style of wingers hugging the touchline? Name some of them for me...

football is football nothing like modern game... In a counter attack it's mostly the striker or wingers that run with the ball forward and they are the ones that will play the crosses into the box..

Every top team uses that style.. its either the winger plays a cross or passes into the box or cuts into the box then shoots or passes.... the wings are very useful when it comes to chance creation...

Brazil vs Ghana match, most of the goals Ghana conceded were from crosses into the box, Vinicius Junior and Raphinha were playing crosses into box...

2 of Osimhen's goals for his hat-trick were from crosses into the box one from the winger Kvara and other from the Right Fullback..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 5:59pm On Nov 05, 2022
Danielnino00:


What I wrote there wasn't from my thinking..it is an analysis of how the modern game is . You can prove me wrong... How many top wingers in today's game are still playing crosses? How many top teams still use that style? In fact, how many wingers still play the traditional style of wingers hugging the touchline? Name some of them for me...

Real Madrid

Bayern lewan era

Juventus since time immemorial

English premier league with the exception of Manchester city

Liverpool has even abused this
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 6:00pm On Nov 05, 2022
Danielnino00:


Who is Robinson? Is Trent a winger? Trent is one of the main source of creativity in Klopp's system..He and Salah play the same wings,you won't see Salah playing crosses into the box.. that clearly highlight my point that in the modern game, wingers don't do much crossing of the ball.. Somebody said our wingers should be crossing the ball for Onuachu...

But our wingers aren’t of the same quality as those you mentioned na.

They can’t play as other wingers are playing they lack the skill set. Isn’t it better to play cross and head than play dribbling into the box that they’re not good at
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 6:01pm On Nov 05, 2022
BannedLarge:


Funny enough, Bassey can cross a ball well but he is our best CB at the moment and will be wasted at LB

Sanusi can cross the ball well too he’s as jacked as bassey or even more self
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Karlovych: 6:01pm On Nov 05, 2022
typicalgamer:


Same reason why irrespective of Paul goals in Belgium he’s not rated

You clearly just look at stats and not watch football match at all. Vlahovic is an eyesore
Belgium league might not be rated but he's still amongst the top performers there. If stats are not an important metric for you what then is, since when did "watch football match at all" become a metric? Define watch match at all and how Vlahovic is an eyesore
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:05pm On Nov 05, 2022
ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 6:06pm On Nov 05, 2022
Danielnino00:


Who is Robinson? Is Trent a winger? Trent is one of the main source of creativity in Klopp's system..He and Salah play the same wings,you won't see Salah playing crosses into the box.. that clearly highlight my point that in the modern game, wingers don't do much crossing of the ball.. Somebody said our wingers should be crossing the ball for Onuachu...
In a 4-3-3 it is the wing backs that crosses. Robertson and Trent does the crossing. Wingers often time square play. Liverpool scores from a lot of crosses. Onachu scored his goals under Rohr in a 4-3-3 system.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:09pm On Nov 05, 2022
typicalgamer:


But our wingers aren’t of the same quality as those you mentioned na.

They can’t play as other wingers are playing they lack the skill set. Isn’t it better to play cross and head than play dribbling into the box that they’re not good at


I am with Danielnino00 on this. Modern set up has three forwards. Not wingers. They help increase the numerical strength around the box and also bring the ball into the offensive third.

They also create gaps at the wide areas with their runs into the box. This giving the wing backs and offensive midfielders space to use that area for crossing.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:11pm On Nov 05, 2022
codemaniacs:


football is football nothing like modern game... In a counter attack it's mostly the striker or wingers that run with the ball forward and they are the ones that will play the crosses into the box..

Every top team uses that style.. its either the winger plays a cross or passes into the box or cuts into the box then shoots or passes.... the wings are very useful when it comes to chance creation...

Brazil vs Ghana match, most of the goals Ghana conceded were from crosses into the box, Vinicius Junior and Raphinha were playing crosses into box...

2 of Osimhen's goals for his hat-trick were from crosses into the box one from the winger Kvara and other from the Right Fullback..


Mane, Salah, Firmino is a good example of your modern day offense set up. How many times do you see them whipping in crosses?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 6:16pm On Nov 05, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I am with Danielnino00 on this. Modern set up has three forwards. Not wingers. They help increase the numerical around the box and also bring the ball into the offensive third.

They also create gaps at the wide areas with their runs into the box. This giving the wing backs and offensive midfielders to use that area for crossing.

Call it Whatever you modern football has 3 forwards come on now let’s be real

You think all team plays 433 or 343

When smaller teams play a top team the format of 3 players up to gets scrapped
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:16pm On Nov 05, 2022
codemaniacs:


football is football nothing like modern game... In a counter attack it's mostly the striker or wingers that run with the ball forward and they are the ones that will play the crosses into the box..

Every top team uses that style.. its either the winger plays a cross or passes into the box or cuts into the box then shoots or passes.... the wings are very useful when it comes to chance creation...

Brazil vs Ghana match, most of the goals Ghana conceded were from crosses into the box, Vinicius Junior and Raphinha were playing crosses into box...

2 of Osimhen's goals for his hat-trick were from crosses into the box one from the winger Kvara and other from the Right Fullback..


Amuneke revealed: “I will be engaging with coaches in three cities in Nigeria and I’m looking forward to it. I love sharing knowledge and there’s a lot in modern football to expose these coaches to.

“I hope the coaches come with an open mind to learn a lot because I’m prepared to bless them with some fantastic details about the latest techniques in modern coaching.”


https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2021/07/29/amuneke-to-train-coaches-in-three-nigerian-cities/


There is definitely modern ideas of coaching that is totally different from what we were exposed to.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 6:17pm On Nov 05, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Mane, Salah, Firmino is a good example of your modern day offense set up. How many times do you see them whipping in crosses?
What they play is called small ball they don’t have a typical stand in no9

That’s what Bayern are doing right now
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:18pm On Nov 05, 2022
typicalgamer:


Call it Whatever you modern football has 3 forwards come on now let’s be real

You think all team plays 433

I think I will put it this way. My phrasing was wrong. Most modern set up have three forwards. Today, Manchester City played with Alvarez, Grealish and Bernardo Silva.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by justicechichex: 6:19pm On Nov 05, 2022
Lookman scores from the spot.. Atalanta lead 1 nil. Handball by Osimhen.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:19pm On Nov 05, 2022
Osimhen causes penalty and Lookman finish. U sure say no be plan be this grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:19pm On Nov 05, 2022
typicalgamer:

What they play is called small ball they don’t have a typical stand in no9

That’s what Bayern are doing right now

So, that is what Danielnino00 is saying. We should hinge more on the modern ideas than sticking to the old methods of having the wide offensive players drifting wide and crossing balls.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:19pm On Nov 05, 2022
Lookman wicked ooo see finish grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 6:20pm On Nov 05, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I think I will put it this way. My phrasing was wrong. Most modern set up have three forwards. Today, Manchester City played with Alvarez, Grealish and Bernardo Silva.

Now you’re talking but always remember 70% of teams can’t afford to play like this 100% of the time except you’re a big club.

Imagine Nottingham against city

They rather fall back leave 1 man up top and always wait for a fast break counter before they’ll consider aligning a 3 man upward
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by justicechichex: 6:20pm On Nov 05, 2022
justicechichex:
Lookman scores from the spot.. Atalanta lead 1 nil. Handball by Osimhen.

And put up the Ronaldo 'peace of mind' celebration
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by typicalgamer(m): 6:21pm On Nov 05, 2022
BascoVanVeli:
Lookman wicked ooo see finish grin

That guy no go stay pass 2 seasons for serie a before them snap am back to England

Hopefully a contending team will do
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:21pm On Nov 05, 2022
typicalgamer:

What they play is called small ball they don’t have a typical stand in no9

That’s what Bayern are doing right now

Where did you get this phrase from?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by justicechichex: 6:22pm On Nov 05, 2022
BascoVanVeli:
Lookman wicked ooo see finish grin
Sweet penalty.. I nearly think say na over the bar

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 6:23pm On Nov 05, 2022
Osimhen!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by justicechichex: 6:23pm On Nov 05, 2022
Osimhen scoreesssssssssss

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Samueltemi337(m): 6:23pm On Nov 05, 2022
Na plan work be this grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Koboko99(m): 6:24pm On Nov 05, 2022
Osimhen scores! 1-1

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 6:24pm On Nov 05, 2022
typicalgamer:


Now you’re talking but always remember 70% of teams can’t afford to play like this 100% of the time except you’re a big club.

Imagine Nottingham against city

They rather fall back leave 1 man up top and always wait for a fast break counter before they’ll consider aligning a 3 man upward

Almost every team in too football play with similar ideas. Even Nottingham Forrest.

Steve Cooper, manager of Nottingham Forrest learnt a lot from a Barcelona coaching pair at Liverpool.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Starboytwo(m): 6:26pm On Nov 05, 2022
Capocannoniere

Osimhen

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:27pm On Nov 05, 2022
fabyom:
In a 4-3-3 it is the wing backs that crosses. Robertson and Trent does the crossing. Wingers often time square play. Liverpool scores from a lot of crosses. Onachu scored his goals under Rohr in a 4-3-3 system.
typicalgamer:


Real Madrid

Bayern lewan era

Juventus since time immemorial

English premier league with the exception of Manchester city

Liverpool has even abused this

Why are you pretending like you didn't understand my point?
The person I quoted was saying our wingers should be crossing the ball more when Onuachu starts..my point is that wingers in this era don't cross the ball often like before.. it's fullbacks that do .. Liverpool is an example of such team..Same with city.. Robertson and Trent aren't wingers.. they are fullbacks...

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