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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:47am On Nov 07, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: If you are interested in winning election then you should be reaching out to the voters abi? Let me interest you in some stats that might not be 100% correct How many of Nigerian voting population speak and understand the type of English spoken tonight How many of the Nigerian voting population understand deep policy proclamations made today How many of the real voters have electricity and access to Arise TV How many of those voters are even undecided and open minded to ideas being shared Basically the only person's that would make a decision based on tonight's debate is an undecided voter who understand educated English not just pidgin, who has electricity either by NEPA or generator. Who was watching TV tonight and not doing other things Who was watching Arise TV in particular And fully understand policies being discussed I can tell you the number of such people fit no reach 2000 in the entire population That's an insignificant number to the total voting number Debates in Nigeria are for the likes of Fela Durotoye to show their oratory skills |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:48am On Nov 07, 2022 |
izzou: Which of the common men? How many of the common men understand what they are discussing tonight and will make a decision based on it That's assuming they have electricity and are tuned to AriseTV tonight. It's simply labor in vain |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:50am On Nov 07, 2022 |
izzou: Brother.... this is not defence rather Reality from logical point of view. I personally want him attending debates, but seems he's more concerned widening his coverage than spending time on Air addressing Nigerians that probably won't even turn up at the poll. I will be glad to at least have Shettima representing him. I will be more glad if he attends at least Channels Debate personally. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:51am On Nov 07, 2022 |
raumdeuter: ..... Reality bro. That's the Reality if we are to be sincere with ourselves. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:51am On Nov 07, 2022 |
raumdeuter: So the millions of voters in Lagos state have no access to TVs and YouTube abi? Na only 2000 people watch TV this night? Sorry 1999...Nihilistjnr is in the UK. He doesn't count 5 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:53am On Nov 07, 2022 |
OasisX: Debate is to massage the ego of elites that are likely not going to vote or have made up their minds A former president of America said I can shoot someone on 5th Avenue and not lose any vote. That's the home of democracy 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 12:55am On Nov 07, 2022 |
Tataffo: I keep saying that these people are evil. In 2015, people warned us that Buhari was a terrible communicator and that he was clueless. We said we don't want someone that talks, we want someone that acts. 8 years later,. Talk we no hear, action we no see and the people that propped him up are doing the exact same thing ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE IS A LEGITIMATE CONCERN OF THE CANDIDATE'S MENTAL ACUITY AND HEALTH STATUS. I mean there is genuine belief that Tinubu is suffering from early signs of Parkinsons. We've seen the hand tremors, the slurring of speeches, the weak footsteps, the blanking out in speeches. We've seen the candidate himself go all out to give proof of life and fitness. Only a fool wouldn't want to see this candidate of the ruling party subject himself to rigorous questioning qnd exercise like we've just seen. 10 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:56am On Nov 07, 2022 |
izzou: Of the millions in Lagos how many are undecided at this point Able to understand the deep policies and open minded about others Are tuned to AriseTV at this time of the day |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:56am On Nov 07, 2022 |
OasisX: We have been here, and it will repeat itself again Buhari avoided debates. Osibanjo was excellent. Today, Nigeria is clutching at straws, and PYO is still VP BAT is avoiding debates. Shettima is thrilling us with promises an end to insecurity in 6 months Well, make i no talk much. The people that voted massively for Buhari are buying fuel for 300 per litre. At least, my own na 200 per liter. God go continue to dey show some of us mercy. Na my prayer be that 6 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:57am On Nov 07, 2022 |
raumdeuter: U are so much detached from reality in Nigeria . It doesn’t even cost more than ₦2,000 to watch Gotv monthly and Gotv has AriseTv showing on their bouquet. Even pensioners can afford it. We are in 2022 not in 1999 or 2003 during the time of OBJ. We are not asking too much when we demand the presidential candidates speak to us about their plans , they are not going to rule over the few people that congregate their town hall meetings , they are going to lead us all. That was how we felt Buhari doesn’t need to debate , till we started begging him to even speak to us through media chats. 11 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 12:58am On Nov 07, 2022 |
Na only rigorous exercise. Why not carry them to gym or watch them banging their wives to decide If tonight's debate impress you vote for one of them If you don't care vote for either Tinubu or Atiku. Especially Tinubu 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:58am On Nov 07, 2022 |
raumdeuter: .... Essence of Debate is convincing Voter, Masses while you deserve the shot. Kola triumphs over the rest technically. I guess that has won Agbadorians, Mikano Boys and Obidense to his Camp?! |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Donjazet2: 12:59am On Nov 07, 2022 |
If anyone is in anyway taking dayo's position serious despite knowing his motivation for his support amd knowing how he likes to twist logic, then you have yourself to blame. Una bye bye. 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:00am On Nov 07, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: Read this again carefully and you will understand Basically the only person's that would make a decision based on tonight's debate is an undecided voter who understand educated English not just pidgin, who has electricity either by NEPA or generator. Who was watching TV tonight and not doing other things Who was watching Arise TV in particular And fully understand policies being discussed I mean someone who fulfill all these conditions not just one or two I can tell you the number of such people fit no reach 2000 in the entire population Think about it again |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Tataffo: 1:00am On Nov 07, 2022 |
Why go to the gatherings of captains of industries,technocrats,business leaders and elites to tell them about your policies when you know majority of voters are poor,wretched,don't have internet,don't have cable TVs,don't understand policies and manifestos,iya alata and underage almajiris No need doing that too 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:00am On Nov 07, 2022 |
izzou: You have solid points and I am not engaging you to dispute it. I am simply wanna be a Realist this time around based on past experiences. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:01am On Nov 07, 2022 |
OasisX: Fela Durotoye and Moughalu did more than that. What was their total votes 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:03am On Nov 07, 2022 |
raumdeuter: I actually supported them and was hoping the Merger would work. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:03am On Nov 07, 2022 |
Captain of industries are those who move the economy those who employ the vast majority of people. They are not waiting for AriseTV debates they know what they want to hear from each of the candidates The ease of doing business the friendliness to business how you secure their interest Not who speaks the best English 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:07am On Nov 07, 2022 |
Everyone of them wants Subsidy gone. Are we really ready for it? Izzou just complained of Fuel being sold at 300 naira per Litre now. I believe we'll pay more if subsidy is removed completely. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:07am On Nov 07, 2022 |
raumdeuter: This is ur personal opinion that is premised on false sense of conviction. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 1:08am On Nov 07, 2022 |
OasisX: You can also be a realist by telling us how better off we have been based on past experiences. Maybe the man is not as good as you think he is |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ellexy: 1:11am On Nov 07, 2022 |
The Nigeria of today is not the Nigeria of 2015 or even 2019. People are becoming aware. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:12am On Nov 07, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: What is false about it. How many voters in Nigeria will watch and change their mind based on this debate start from this thread how many people changed the choice based on the debate tonight Given Kola Abiola performance tonight How many will vote him |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 1:14am On Nov 07, 2022 |
izzou: Yes he may not be as good as I think, nothing is impossible. But he remains my first choice coz certainly not as worse as rest major contestants. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 1:19am On Nov 07, 2022 |
raumdeuter:I don't think there's any campaign in this election cycle that will have over 100K person's in attendance, not to mention those that were following on Twitter, Facebook and on arise TV itself. I'm sure we could have had close to 250K person's following that debate, directly and indirectly. No need beating around the bush, Tinubu wants to win, attending debates will most likely be him demarketing himself cause of his many health and psychological issues. Therefore attending debates isn't strategic. 6 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:22am On Nov 07, 2022 |
Theflint1: How many of these 250k were undecided before today? How many of those 250k came to watch without an obvious candidate Buhari that didn't debate in 2015 and won OBJ that didn't debate in 1999 and won Jonathan that didn't debate in 2011 and won Guess they didn't Demarket themselves enough 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Tataffo: 1:26am On Nov 07, 2022 |
If osinbajo had resigned 2years or first tenure sef when he discovered his hands were tied and nothing good was coming out of buhari 's admin..then joined a populist party to build a 3rd force from 2019 like obi is doing now, align/merge with obi for 2023,hmmm... osibanjo workrate pre2015 was just like Obi's,entering danfos,brt,giving talks everywhere to induce voters,most joined the buhari ship cos of him South and northcentral would've been in the bag,no one would be calling yorubas voting osibanjo an omo-ale or hold him to buhari's failures.... kwankwanso,tinubu and atiku would be sharing the underage almajiris illiterate core north who can be induced with money and vote buying.... Osibanjo/obi would've won before 2pm ... maybe I'm just fantasizing sha 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:33am On Nov 07, 2022 |
raumdeuter: Where I work, I know 4 different people that have PVC’s , don’t know who to vote for yet out of the 4 most popular candidates and they will most likely watch the AriseTv (if they are chanced). These people have spouses (who I don’t know about their voting decisions ) That was why I said ur opinion is based on a false sense of conviction. U believe almost everyone is neck deep in this APC vs PDP/ OBIdient-BAT-Atikulated stuff and will vote solely on whatever anybody writes on paper or campaign posters. Some people just want the country to at least be better than buhari met it. One of the 4 people I mentioned earlier has 2 kids in a public university; she’s been apprehensive ever since the issue of Ngige ordering that only half of October salary should be paid to University lecturers. Like she had to put in time to make sure the kids don’t fall into depression having stayed home for almost 8 months .Do u think such person will just vote a candidate because he’s Yoruba , Igbo or Hausa ? Do u think such person wouldn’t be interested in hearing propositions of how the incoming president will find a lasting solution to the ASUU issue ? These are real life issues affecting the lives of people on a daily. We saw how Buhari didn’t even engage anybody at the debates . Tinubu did all the talking at the rallies promising end to ASUU strike and even promising student loans; we all know how it is going now . 11 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:41am On Nov 07, 2022 |
Tataffo: Osinabjo is not a politician , he would’ve lost scandalously if he did. The primaries should tell u something ; na politicians sabi run politics well well . Did u not notice how he was called traitor by his own party members just because he chose to pursue his ambition ? If he had joined another party and run against Buhari in 2019 What name do u think they will call him ? Osinbajo is a technocrat that found his way to the corridors on power based on recommendations , he’s no politician and he will always be trounced by career politicians . Nigeria is not Liberia where someone like George Weah can just contest election and win; if someone like Okocha decides to contest for president today , u will be surprised how the same Nigerians u watch and Celebrate Okocha together will speak ill of him just to demarket him. 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Tataffo: 1:43am On Nov 07, 2022 |
Lol....Kola abiola that has never trended before and most never knew he was an aspirant,the debate happened and he kinda sold himself to some people who will be voting for him based on that.. 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:43am On Nov 07, 2022 |
BlueRayDick: Ask all of them tomorrow if the debate swayed them on who they will vote for If you ask anyone about ASUU they will all say the same thing or very similar. I will negotiate with ASUU Nihilistjnr has been telling us that all of them promised to remove subsidy so how do you differentiate from 4 people who promised to remove subsidy Buhari promised to remove it Jonathan promised to remove it probably OBJ promised too. 22yrs later we have subsidy in place and another 4 people promising what the past 4 presidents promised to do. So which of the 4 potential subsidy removals will you vote for? On insecurity will you see anyone who will say he won't battle insecurity? All past 4 president Said the same thing too 2 Likes |
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