A001:

Lols. Olorun is the mythical, ancient King, which the Otem guy calls an extraterrestrial (ET).

By the time you compare this story with various other myths about the source of humanity in different cultures around the world, you'll see that ET connection, and it won't be wrong to conclude that humanity has its origin in extraterrestrial bodies or entities.

Already, scientific findings have shown we are all made up of stars. In other words, almost all the elements constituting each of the human body came from some dead stars in space.

Thus, the myth (also explained in Otem's history book) about Olorun sending down Odua, the progenitor of the Yoruba race, from space to earth with a chain may actually be true.

Our origin is extraterrestrial.

You know you are batshit crazy when theist folks are nodding in agreement with atheists that you're crazy on an existential issue.

Is everything alright at home? Are sure you don't want to talk about it?

Donjazet2:


[s]Just imagine!!!! Make them free criminal wey defraud millions from people. Man wey steal people sweat. Don't worry, your own comeuppance is coming. Keep defrauding innocent victims. The arc of the universe is long but it bends towards justice[/s].

#FREEHUSHPUPPY

Atum and Orunmila form chain gang dey dig continent like who wan dig culvert

What a pseudoscientist.

A001:

Lols, since you can't provide a good defense for your previous points I countered with facts, you don divert to another excuse.

Obi has his own issues but is a lesser evil than the candidates of the other two evil parties that have done serious damage to Nigeria and Nigerians.

PDP had its chance for good 16 years and failed; APC also had its chance for about 8 years and performed worse than the woeful PDP.

The reasonable thing is to give another party a try.

Don't wish for us what you dread for yourself.

Any Nigerian living in Nigeria, experiencing the insecurity, inflation and extremely high food prices, incessant ASUU strikes, monumental acts of corruption, youth unemployment, epileptic power supply, and other ills that have defined Buhari's government, and is still campaigning for APC or PDP is simply being foolish.

Fela described such fools as "suffering and smiling". Foolishness must be inherent in such a person's gene.

But for people like you in the diaspora, you're just being wicked or using us to catch cruise by supporting APC.

What are the alternatives you're proposing? Still former members of PDP and APC...Please make it make sense...

APC and PDP are just platforms, it's the politicians who are bad and we have seen those politicians switch places countless times...If your gospel was about politicians like Sowore, Moghalu and others who are not part of the old guard then it'd give credence to your argument...

You can't finger the politicians in the APC and PDP yet want us to support those who were previously part of the platforms you're demonizing...

666

sod09:
666

Ellexy:

Ibime what happened to fenibeso

666

Donjazet2:


[s]I've always said that you yourself now practice a religion where otem can be likened to your deity or "messenger O the religion".

Anyways for the sake of intellectual curiosity, I would like to read this book and see what the fuss really is all about. What's the name and where can it be gotten? If not for anything, for the fact that we now align politically. [/s]

Whatever you feel about Otem or his book or me is your problem to deal with. You can add it to your list of problems in life.

I support good books of history and philosophy wherever I see them, and Otem's book is one of such. If my support gives you a headache and you see it mischievously as a religion, then that's your folly, which is none of my concern.

Whether you like it or not, I'll always support a good book of history so long it advocates science and philosophy over religion.

I don't know how a person can sound so foolish, calling a book author (a Kogi guy) a deity.

If you need the book, you may look for the author's email on Nairaland and request it.

He may send it to you. He hardly replies emails anyways.

666

DissTroy:


It's all Labour Party. Here's the arrangement: PDP would retain at the state, senatorial and lower levels while Obi takes the Presidential votes.

Gov. Udom Emmanuel is the DG of the Atiku Campaign yet PDP candidates and faithfuls are openly campaigning for Obi.
If you disagree, there's a caveat but I'd post links to the Facebook accounts of PDP candidates, government appointees, state government media aides and the likes who are openly supporting Peter Obi yet campaigning for their candidates at lower levels. Same in Rivers State.

Udom Emmanuel has also been appearing in church invites with Peter Obi. Dunamis e.t.c More than a coincidence.

3 months ago, I kept reiterating the South South is voting Obi en masse, and the kingpins and moneybags of the PDP (Rivers and Akwa Ibom) are spearheading it. In fact, I mentioned it before the primaries. (There's a reason why Gov. Udom hasn't commented on the PDP crisis even though he and Wike are allies).

The whole of Akwa Ibom tech community (in the state and outside) are routing for Peter Obi. Mark Essien of the famous Hotels.ng (who hails from Ikot Ekpene) is one of our organisers.

You either believe the concoctions or take it from those of us in the team.

News this morning:

"Gov. Udom Emmanuel May Resign As Atiku's DG Over Lack Of Funds "

https://www.nairaland.com/7422789/udom-may-resign-atikus-pcc

When people in the know of things take time to explain to you, you have two options:
1. Accept, or;
2. Kept typing out your wild imaginations to sooth yourself on the pages of Nairaland.

We stated months ago that Tinubu and Atiku campaigns would flops in these areas and all support would go to Obi. We insisted government officials are in on it too. You argued. Over the subsequent months, we are being proven right one and a thousand times over.

sod09:
Ibime what happened to fenibeso

This is Page 666, a perfect page to discuss Otem, Fenibeso, Mazda and the rest

patrickmuf:
What are the alternatives you're proposing? Still former members of PDP and APC...Please make it make sense...

APC and PDP are just platforms, it's the politicians who are bad and we have seen those politicians switch places countless times...If your gospel was about politicians like Sowore, Moghalu and others who are not part of the old guard then it'd give credence to your argument...

You can't finger the politicians in the APC and PDP yet want us to support those who were previously part of the platforms you're demonizing...

Mr man, Obi did not hold ANY elective position in the PDP!! This means that he really didn't need to compromise his integrity in many ways. Ojukwu picked him to run as governor in Anambra. He was rigged out and fought for his mandate, he went in there and blocked leakages for government officials to steal money from government.

Then PDP wooed him to the party after seeing his wonderful economic management of his state and immediately gave him various economic federal appointment upon his defection and then atiku picked him to be his vice for the purpose of balancing his ticket regionally and bringing in his economic acumen.

Obi wasn't in the PDP for long, so you can't really call him a product of PDP. He was there for only 5 years.

DissTroy:


You know you are batshit crazy when theist folks are nodding in agreement with atheists that you're crazy on an existential issue.

Is everything alright at home? Are sure you don't want to talk about it?

Ask Google if everything is okay without your tiny brain. Google may cure your inanity.

Ibime:



This is Page 666, a perfect page to discuss Otem, Fenibeso, Mazda and the rest

A001:

Ask Google if everything is okay without your tiny brain. Google may cure your inanity.

Now that the issue is on brain and intelligence; I love the fact that your username is your I.Q. score - 001.

At least you were honest enough to put a caveat so anyone engaging you would know you are dumber than a dusty pebble.

DissTroy:


News this morning:

"Gov. Udom Emmanuel May Resign As Atiku's DG Over Lack Of Funds "

https://www.nairaland.com/7422789/udom-may-resign-atikus-pcc

When people in the know of things take time to explain to you, you have two options:
1. Accept, or;
2. Kept typing out your wild imaginations to sooth yourself on the pages of Nairaland.

We stated months ago that Tinubu and Atiku campaigns would flops in these areas and all support would go to Obi. We insisted government officials are in on it too. You argued. Over the subsequent months, we are being proven right one and a thousand times over.

Everyone knows the entire SS is for labour party. The battle ground this election is the middle belt..

You've just heard one governor speak soon badly against Fulani people. And ortoms outburst wasn't even channeled against atiku alone. He said "to hell with any Fulani man".

After the herders crises, the middle belt people now have a phobia for the northern oligarchy. And I don't see them being receptive to the APC. I'm feeling that Obi would win the Middle belt but let's be watching.

Hello 666,traditional worshipper here.....olokun is my deity

Why do some of you guys think that MB starts and ends with Benue and Plateau?

DissTroy:


Now that the issue is on brain and intelligence; I love the fact that your username is your I.Q. score - 001.

At least you were honest enough to put a caveat so anyone engaging you would know you are dumber than a dusty pebble.

Lols, na you dey give IQ scores on Nairaland by merely looking at a person's moniker. Ode.

The fool sounds like an incompetent village teacher that awards high marks to a student in a subject simply because of good handwriting.

So if my username is A10000000, that makes my IQ score 10000000. Omo ode

Where dey see this one wey dey talk like a drunkard inebriated with emu

patrickmuf:
What are the alternatives you're proposing? Still former members of PDP and APC...Please make it make sense...

APC and PDP are just platforms, it's the politicians who are bad and we have seen those politicians switch places countless times...If your gospel was about politicians like Sowore, Moghalu and others who are not part of the old guard then it'd give credence to your argument...

You can't finger the politicians in the APC and PDP yet want us to support those who were previously part of the platforms you're demonizing...

This logic will always be flawed. You can be in a system but not part of the rot in the system. You can be in a system to understudy and learn how not to lead and do things when you get a chance at leading.

That you're a Nigerian does not mean you're corrupt as hell. Moses had 40yrs of training in the house of Pharoah. No be beans.

Confusion in the camp
When I said that the coalition wasn't meant to last

Lol...I already see Donjazet becoming pushing separatist ideologies if Peter Obi doesn't win. Nigeria is a tribal country.

izzou:


Tribalist, explaining why he is a tribalist.

Mkpi

DissTroy:


I don't care about the PDP but I'm voting Atiku/Obi. Peter Obi especially as one of the best Governor Nigeria has ever had.


In no particular order:

Peter Obi of Anambra State

Victor Attah of Akwaibom State

Donald Duke of Cross River State.

I want Peter Obi to replicate what he did as Governor of Anambra State on the national level.

Again, the only reason Atiku got the number of votes he got in the South South and South East in 2019 was because Peter Obi was on the ballot. The quote is my post stating the reasons I joined the Atiku/Obi campaign on January 30, 2019.
Same for millions from these areas who joined the campaign. It was always about Peter Obi. It was always about his antecedence as governor and some of us have been consistent in over beliefs.

A001:

Lols. Olorun is the mythical, ancient King, which the Otem guy calls an extraterrestrial (ET).

By the time you compare this story with various other myths about the source of humanity in different cultures around the world, you'll see that ET connection, and it won't be wrong to conclude that humanity has its origin in extraterrestrial bodies or entities.

Already, scientific findings have shown we are all made up of stars. In other words, almost all the elements constituting each of the human body came from some dead stars in space.

Thus, the myth (also explained in Otem's history book) about Olorun sending down Odua, the progenitor of the Yoruba race, from space to earth with a chain may actually be true.

Our origin is extraterrestrial.

If by this you mean Nitrogen, Carbon, Oxygen and Hydrogen, we might as well have originated from plants too.

Amoto94:
Confusion in the camp
When I said that the coalition wasn't meant to last

Supporting Peter Obi doesn't mean joining a cult where we must agree on non-political issues. Asides SEO value, what you post here has little impact.

The real impact is getting people to vote and influencing at a high level.

A01 guy is a Peter Obi supporter like myself. Politics. That I agree.
He's stating unfounded concoctions and passing them off as existential truths, and scientific truths too.

I think he's crazy. But regardless of what we all think his mental state is on religious issues, he's saner and more humane than you Amoto94 who defended the murder of Deborah Samuel on some alleged blasphemous claims. Evidence which I have posted a thousand times on this and the Chelsea thread.

You are more of a threat to any civilized society than he'd ever be.

Theflint1:
If by this you mean Nitrogen, Carbon, Oxygen and Hydrogen, we might as well have originated from plants too.

And where did the elements constituting plants originate from? The whole planet itself came from earlier celestial or extraterrestrial bodies.

Donjazet2:


Mr man, Obi did not hold ANY elective position in the PDP!! This means that he really didn't need to compromise his integrity in many ways. Ojukwu picked him to run as governor in Anambra. He was rigged out and fought for his mandate, he went in there and blocked leakages for government officials to steal money from government.

Then PDP wooed him to the party after seeing his wonderful economic management of his state and immediately gave him various economic federal appointment upon his defection and then atiku picked him to be his vice for the purpose of balancing his ticket regionally and bringing in his economic acumen.

Obi wasn't in the PDP for long, so you can't really call him a product of PDP. He was there for only 5 years.

Doyin Okupe? How about him?

Obi is fingered for investing the state money in a company he and his family has an interest in, is that not conflict of interest? What is corruption again?

Ellexy:
This logic will always be flawed. You can be in a system but not part of the rot in the system. You can be in a system to understudy and learn how not to lead and do things when you get a chance at leading.

That you're a Nigerian does not mean you're corrupt as hell. Moses had 40yrs of training in the house of Pharoah. No be beans.

So, what's the basis for saying Tinubu, Atiku and the likes are corrupt? Their supporters can argue that they're not part of the rot in the system...

You guys make a lot of excuses for Obi but not for others, why? Obi was part of GEJ's government abd was running mate to Atiku thus it can be implied that Obi found Atiku worthy to lead Nigeria abd you all who supported Atiku in 2019 thought same, some 3 years later, what changed? Why not Atiku?

DissTroy:

Supporting Peter Obi doesn't mean joining a cult where we must agree on non-political issues. Asides SEO value, what you post here have little impact.

The real impact is getting people to vote and influencing at a high level.

A01 guy is a Peter Obi supporter like myself. Politics. That I agree.
He's stating unfounded concoctions and passing them off as existential truths, and scientific truths too.

I think he's crazy. But regardless of what we all think his mental state is on religious issues, he's saner and more humane than you Amoto94 who defended the murder of Deborah Samuel on some alleged blasphemous claims. Evidence which I have posted a thousand times on this and the Chelsea thread.

You are more of a threat to any civilized society than he'd ever be.

Unfounded concoction like those in your Bible or Qur'an?

Lols. Only a foolish person talks about a book he hasn't read and doesn't have.

The human folly knows no bounds.

BlueRayDick:


Baba, Yoruba's despite having kings "selected" by the oracle have council of chiefs who are empowered to depose the king if they believe he's not serving the interest of the people. They have powerful chiefs who even waged war against sitting kings (Bashorun Gaa waged war agsinst a sitting Alaafin and pushed him to suicide sef) This is what is obtainable in Yoruba land prior to the colonialists' coming.

Lugard saw the legal system in the 3 major regions and tried to force indirect system on all but it didn't succeed as he had planned. That's why u see Yorubas fighting agbekoya war shortly after independence. People listen to their kings, but won't hesitate to protest anything they feel is against them

Ahh Ok I see where the problem is.

Firstly let me start by addressing your fist misconception in the bolded - There was NEVER indirect rule in the south

The 1861 Treaty of Cession of Lagos which deposed Kosoko and enthroned Kosoko as the Oba of Lagos, also firmly established Lagos as a dominion of the Queen, and more crucially subject to English Law.

The very first British court in Nigeria was established almost Immediately after in 1863 - The Supreme Court -which administered the laws of England in Lagos.

Following the success in Lagos, the British used the same playbook in the hinterland. Alaafin Adeyemi signed the treaty making Yoruba's British subjects in 1888, in 1889 Nana Olomu signed Itsekiri land away with the treaty of Abraka, Oba Ovonrwamwen signed Benin away in 1892, same year Awujale signed Ijebu Ode away. Anybody king that refused to play ball was quickly exiled and replaced - e.g Ovororamwen, Jaja Opobo and King Pepple before him, Nana of Iskeri, Aforementioned Dosunmu, etc.

In Igboland, they didnt have kings or empires, so the British invented a title called Warrant Chiefs and started appointing niggas as basically prefects to work for the Colonial administration under English law. To bolster this new invention, the British created 'Native' Courts in 1901 which were subject to the British High Commisioner.

By the time Lugard conquered Kano in 1906, Lagos had been directly subject to British law for alomost 50 years, and the Yoruba had been British subjects for nearly 20.

This is very different to what happened in the North.

Lugard did not setup any court in Nothern Nigeria, and deliberately preserved the Sharia system there. He refused to interfere in how the Northerners administered their affairs. He was a staunch adversary of independence, and is on record saying that “If unrest and desire for independence exists,”it is because the natives have been taught the value of freedom and independence, which for centuries they had not known.”

He created Nigerian Legislative Council in 1914 which could legislate on all matters for the South, but can only legislate on matters pertaining to money and budgeting for the north. Till today, you cannot appeal any Sharia ruling outside the Sharia court system in Nigeria. That's by design. That's by constitution. This is why Sharia law was written into our English based constitution in 1960. That was Lugard's legacy in the North.