Gerrard59:



So, why have you not returned to Nigeria or relocated to a black-dominated country? Na this hypocrisy dey vex me. Person go siddon for abroad dey say "no place like home", "being around blacks is better", "don't come to the abroad", "abroad is lonely" yen yen yen. OK, return back to Nigeria or even Namibia? Mbanu! If you were in, say Botswana, one would say he is practising what he preaches but nooooooooo. You are in Europe!!!!!!!!! Were you not the one complaining that Namibia is too poor for your business to thrive? Don't you want to be around people who look like you?

BTW, have you not seen the level of tribalism being displayed by the so-called people who look like you? Check the front page and TwitterNG to see the love and light shared amongst people who look like you . Also, this racism you people whine about is tiring at this point, considering you are in a prosperous place, whereas your so-called home is the world's poverty capital! The worst form of discrimination is when people who look like tell you to go back to your state whereas both persons are citizens of the country with the highest number of poor people in the world! I would rather have the Mayor of Tokyo tell me to leave Tokyo and return to Nigeria than stay in Lagos and have Obafemi Hamzat tell me to return to my state. Let someone who is rich tell me to leave his place than a fellow poor person do the same.

Until most of you in this section understand that simple economics dictate people's moves, you will keep creating mumbo-jumbo threads upandown. I recall a thread a black Brit lady did on Twitter whining about racism in the UK and looking for countries where blacks are not racially discriminated. Almost all of the suggestions were white dominated countries! No black person mentioned a black-dominated country for this lady and others who might be interested in moving to. Those who suggested African countries were white men obviously mocking blacks for not having a functioning and prosperous country to call theirs. So you see?! People would always put their economic interests FIRST when making a decision.

Again, if the abroad don tire una, book the next available flight to anywhere that is black-dominated, and while at that, let go of your Canadian/British/American/European citizenship.

I get the thread opener's point and i get yours as well. In life you just have to get used to seeing faces different from yours. 500 years from now there might not be pure white people again. Everyone might just be mixed race. Black gene is stronger than white gene. There are some white people that are against immigration and multiculturalism because they feel the white race is dying. It is inevitable. Uk in the 80s and 90s would have been a cool place. But when there is influx of different cultures, you will start seeing issues. Arabs for example have their own ideology and related issues. There was a time there were reports of honor killings, sex slavery etc going on in some neighborhoods in UK.
I like Canada's immigration policy though. The people entering the country are more sane.

Gerrard59:


If he is above 35, no point in doing so. Rather, he should save and invest to send his children to some of the best universities in countries where attaining citizenship is relatively easy. Countries such as Canada, Australia and many others.

He is 34.

Gerrard59:



So, why have you not returned to Nigeria or relocated to a black-dominated country? Na this hypocrisy dey vex me. Person go siddon for abroad dey say "no place like home", "being around blacks is better", "don't come to the abroad", "abroad is lonely" yen yen yen. OK, return back to Nigeria or even Namibia? Mbanu! If you were in, say Botswana, one would say he is practising what he preaches but nooooooooo. You are in Europe!!!!!!!!! Were you not the one complaining that Namibia is too poor for your business to thrive? Don't you want to be around people who look like you?

Don't you think your response is completely unrelated to what he is saying?

If I read correctly, he didn't dissuade people from going abroad, he only said that leaving Nigeria should be for the poor ones. And even went further and say that one should strive to get the nationality, which implies living abroad to get it. You are trying to make him look like an enemy of progress, and that is not good of you.

Also, advising Nigerians about the difficulties associated with the western world is not the same as telling them not to come. I follow pansophist and see all his posts. His stance has always been that Nigerians should ''japa'', unless you choose to be biased and filter away the pro-travel advice he always gave to Nigerians from all his writeup here.

And I actually agree with him. I have been around many countries, and still believe that if you are wealthy, Africa is the best place for a black man to live. Namibia you mentioned is cool, and lots of Germans actually move to live there, same with South Africa, and even Gambia which is a stone's throw away. It is filled with whites who see the beauty in Africa you so describe in such vile language.

Home might be bad, but you don't hate it. It is men like you that contributed to their own homeland (the western world) and made it safe for you to want to go live permanently in, and of course, accept all the bullshit thrown at you. How about making your homeland a little better? Being a lion in a jungle will always be more honorable than being a dog in the city.

And just in case you are wondering, I hold a French passport myself (got it from birth), and only visited France but choose to live in Nigeria, a decision I have never regretted.

Is this not exactly what our politicians are doing?
The rich don't want you to be like them. Unfortunately, these people supporting them can't get the money to relocate, because they are poor. You see them using alternate accounts to beg for financial assistance.
They claim you can start a business in Nigeria. Ask them if they have ever invested in any business with much profit as they claim.
We should stop discouraging people from taking a bold step of whatever they think is okay for their future.
Nigerians and double standard. No wonder Tinubu is sure of winning the number 1 seat, because of our naivety. After all Buhari did it 2 times without stress.
I don't support APC, but trust me they will win. Is it not this Nigeria again.
Anyone who cares for his future should jet out of this country ASAP because of the impending doom looming. Even Shetima already confirmed this for 2023 ahead.
Either UK is bad or worse, we are going there to live a peaceful life and a promising future. We are not lazy to work and survive.

IbeOkehie:
The essence of this thread is something I've noticed among the upper class in Nigeria - they don't want other Nigerians to make it out to the UK, USA or other developed countries.
Talking to some of them, you can tell they would prohibit Nigerians from migrating if they could

The UK of today is as enjoyable as any other era. I know a few fresh doctors and nurses and also students and lower class workers who have made a higher standard of living for themselves than they would ever have in Nigeria. Some of them even work illegally.

Warren Buffett has said it plenty times and I know by experience, there's nothing that a rich man can enjoy in the West that a poor man can't get except private jet.

So this is what it has come to. � No wonder Nigeria is the way it is.

sokeril:

The average wage is not even that much, it shocked me to see the average wage of a British..so so poor. Like how do you even survive on such wages,except you are a banker or in the IT.
Listening to British lamentations from my interactions with them, compared to an average Nigerian complaints, to be honest I’ve came to the conclusion life is hard every where.
Perhaps all these spending of millions of naira on Uk study visa may not be a wise thing after all.

that average wage is allowance more like pocket money. The average british man gets free health, free school for his kids, he gets child benefits, he gets support for a house or a car, he gets universal credit, he gets support to travel. So all these to that salary you will know a brittish man is balling. When you see a british man complain is in their nature, they are very entiltled.

What a good piece!.
My simple view to this is that opting to leave Nigeria for liberation and betterment of one's life in the UK or anywhere else in the western world at this critical time is the best option, unless you live in Nigeria where the security of your life, those of your family members and property could be certainly guaranteed.

So many Nigerians were living comfortably at home, believing in developing Nigeria with their skills and finances but ended up loosing their lives and loved ones to kidnappers, armed robbers, police brutality and so many other avoidable deaths. Sadly, these lost ones were bread winners of their families, leaving their dependents in eternal sadness. Do you think their family members wouldn't be in regrets presently for failing to have considered Japa in the past?

A professor of Medicine in OAU teaching hospital was killed by kidnappers 2years ago, the widow said she has been telling the deceased to consider their relocation abroad but the husband said he preferred to invest and develop Nigeria.
A 37 years old man left Abuja for his MSC exam in OAU, Ile Ife and was mysteriously killed in November last year in his hotel room at a popular hotel there in Ife, leaving behind a widow with 3 children. The widow recently granted an interview to BBC yoruba that the deceased planned to relocate the family after his MSC.

Just 2 months ago, a young professional was abducted with his mother and young daughter on their way to Abuja from Lokoja, the kidnappers collected millions as ransoms on the 3 of them and eventually killed the young man right before the mother and young daughter. The list is endless, abeg.

Do you think these families amongst so many afflicted ones like them are not currently regretting to have not considered japa than staying back to pursue their goals in Nigeria and eventually loosing their loved ones?

With the current happenings in Nigeria, no amount spent on relocating your whole family abroad to have a new start is wasted. As a matter of fact, there is every likelihood that any investment you put such money into if you choose to stay back in Nigeria would be wasted.

If you choose to japa, simply do so with plans. Expectedly, you can't expect everything to be rosy immediately you get to a foreign country. One must struggle to settle in (accommodation, work, children's schools and so on). A lot of people are comfortable back in Nigeria but the leaders are making home hostile for the commoners and homely for themselves and their families, so why stay back and risk your life.

sukkot:
. there used to be a time wheN the UK was very sweet. i would not even lie to you and that era was the pre- internet days. you see the beauty of the UK back theN was that

1--- the world was not yet commercialized. it was strictly about culture and fun aNd having a great time. nobody was worried about money or making lots of it because everything was cheap. and also back in those days you could find like five of us naija guys sharing a flat and it was just fun and party all throughout and like all of us were british citizens back then ( yeah those who used to come pre-internet were mostly british citizens ) so we used to get all kinds of benefits so we didnt really have bills lol. just party life

2--- also what made the UK sweet back then was because there was no internet to tell you what it looked like, so you enjoyed it so much more because its like you are stepping into a world that you have never experienced before. there were no pictures of what to expect and so it wasnt cheapened ( no see finish ). it was all a mystery. now everything is on the internet

3---the caliber of naijas in the uk back then was quality guys and girls. now na every tom dick and harry oooo lol

4----also the fact that the nigerian market was not open back then and so there was no uk goods in naija and so when we went to naija with our uk clothes everyone looked at us like celebrities. like peoppple would be admiring your uk baffs. of course today there is even no need to go to the uk because everything in the uk can be bought in nigeria now so that aspect of it has also being cheapened. like there are levis and nikes and every shop in the uk in any mall in naija now. like you can be in naija and baff better than someone in the uk now. and so there is no need to go to the uk again. Just buy your baffs in naija and flex

5------ like i said earlier the uk was not commercialised heavily back then but now its all about money. now they can even tax you for the air you breath if they can get away with it. its like the fun has been sucked out of the country and it is now all about survival

6 ----it has become overpopulated by immigrants from all over the world. its like that unique britishness has being lost.

AND SO BROTHER THE UK WAS ONCE A SWEET PLACE BUT ITS NOW A SHITTY PLACE. LOL. I NEED TO TURN THIS INTO A THREAD LOL AND SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION BRO THERE IS NO POINT IN BEING IN THE UK AGAIN IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO LIVE WELL IN NAIJA BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS IN NAIJA. EVERYTHING THAT IS IN THE UK IS IN NAIJA EVEN KFC AND DOMINOS AND NIKE AND APPLE AND POSCHE AND SKETCHERS ETC ETC ETC . SO IF YOU CAN DEVISE A WAY TO EARN POUNDS IN NAIJA, ITS THE PLACE TO BE

sokeril:

Nurses wages are so damn low.
Majority are on band 5 and collect just 1600 after tax per month...average of just 20k-24k per year post tax.
Like I was just reading the lamentations of UK Nurses on Twitter and just shaking my head.

lol. You mean pocket money. Uk no wan make una launder their money comot their economy. Everything is calculated.

jesmond3945:
that average wage is allowance more like pocket money. The average british man gets free health, free school for his kids, he gets child benefits, he gets support for a house or a car, he gets universal credit, he gets support to travel. So all these to that salary you will know a brittish man is balling. When you see a british man complain is in their nature, they are very entiltled.

Oh..thanks for more education.
Is it the same for the migrants

jesmond3945:
you have a british passport?

what if i do ?

sokeril:

Oh..thanks for more education.
Is it the same for the migrants

except universal credit and child benefits

Gerrard59:



So, why have you not returned to Nigeria or relocated to a black-dominated country? Na this hypocrisy dey vex me. Person go siddon for abroad dey say "no place like home", "being around blacks is better", "don't come to the abroad", "abroad is lonely" yen yen yen. OK, return back to Nigeria or even Namibia? Mbanu! If you were in, say Botswana, one would say he is practising what he preaches but nooooooooo. You are in Europe!!!!!!!!! Were you not the one complaining that Namibia is too poor for your business to thrive? Don't you want to be around people who look like you?

BTW, have you not seen the level of tribalism being displayed by the so-called people who look like you? Check the front page and TwitterNG to see the love and light shared amongst people who look like you . Also, this racism you people whine about is tiring at this point, considering you are in a prosperous place, whereas your so-called home is the world's poverty capital! The worst form of discrimination is when people who look like tell you to go back to your state whereas both persons are citizens of the country with the highest number of poor people in the world! I would rather have the Mayor of Tokyo tell me to leave Tokyo and return to Nigeria than stay in Lagos and have Obafemi Hamzat tell me to return to my state. Let someone who is rich tell me to leave his place than a fellow poor person do the same.

Until most of you in this section understand that simple economics dictate people's moves, you will keep creating mumbo-jumbo threads upandown. I recall a thread a black Brit lady did on Twitter whining about racism in the UK and looking for countries where blacks are not racially discriminated. Almost all of the suggestions were white dominated countries! No black person mentioned a black-dominated country for this lady and others who might be interested in moving to. Those who suggested African countries were white men obviously mocking blacks for not having a functioning and prosperous country to call theirs. So you see?! People would always put their economic interests FIRST when making a decision.

Again, if the abroad don tire una, book the next available flight to anywhere that is black-dominated, and while at that, let go of your Canadian/British/American/European citizenship.

Factos!!!

pansophist:


100M of 1B is 10%. That is too generous. What they took can not be counted only in the form of materials (cash, resources, artifacts, etc), but culture, loss of dignity, blood and life, and uncountable intangibles.

You people should stop this victim mentality. Its your forefathers and country leaders who are selling Africans short to line their pockets!

jesmond3945:
that average wage is allowance more like pocket money. The average british man gets free health, free school for his kids, he gets child benefits, he gets support for a house or a car, he gets universal credit, he gets support to travel. So all these to that salary you will know a brittish man is balling. When you see a british man complain is in their nature, they are very entiltled.

This is not accurate. There is a high bar in place to qualify for housing support and universal credit and this bar is only getting higher due to inflation and other pressures. Support for a car? Maybe if you mean mobility scooter if the individual has medical evidence of disabilities. Support to travel? Perhaps for a job interview which is to remove any excuse for not being able to find work (no matter how low paid). Even child benefit is more strictly controlled and many homes and children do not receive this.

What a good piece!.
My simple view to this is that opting to leave Nigeria for liberation and betterment of one's life in the UK or anywhere else in the western world at this critical time is the best option, unless you live in Nigeria where the security of your life, those of your family members and property could be certainly guaranteed.

So many Nigerians were living comfortably at home, believing in developing Nigeria with their skills and finances but ended up loosing their lives and loved ones to kidnappers, armed robbers, police brutality and so many other avoidable deaths. Sadly, these lost ones were bread winners of their families, leaving their dependents in eternal sadness. Do you think their family members wouldn't be in regrets presently for failing to have considered Japa in the past?

A professor of Medicine in OAU teaching hospital was killed by kidnappers 2years ago, the widow said she has been telling the deceased to consider their relocation abroad but the husband said he preferred to invest and develop Nigeria.
A 37 years old man left Abuja for his MSC exam in OAU, Ile Ife and was mysteriously killed in November last year in his hotel room at a popular hotel there in Ife, leaving behind a widow with 3 children. The widow recently granted an interview to BBC yoruba that the deceased planned to relocate the family after his MSC.

Just 2 months ago, a young professional was abducted with his mother and young daughter on their way to Abuja from Lokoja, the kidnappers collected millions as ransoms on the 3 of them and eventually killed the young man right before the mother and young daughter. The list is endless, abeg.

Do you think these families amongst so many afflicted ones like them are not currently regretting to have not considered japa than staying back to pursue their goals in Nigeria and eventually loosing their loved ones?

With the current happenings in Nigeria, no amount spent on relocating your whole family abroad to have a new start is wasted. As a matter of fact, there is every likelihood that any investment you put such money into if you choose to stay back in Nigeria would be wasted.

If you choose to japa, simply do so with plans. Expectedly, you can't expect everything to be rosy immediately you get to a foreign country. One must struggle to settle in (accommodation, work, children's schools and so on). A lot of people are comfortable back in Nigeria but the leaders are making home hostile for the commoners and homely for themselves and their families, so why stay back and risk your life.

sokeril:

Oh..thanks for more education.
Is it the same for the migrants

Migrants are not entitled to child benefit or any public benefits such as housing support. Healthcare is free at the point of use, but you pay taxes into the system and migrants pay a health surcharge on top of this

Zahra29:


Migrants are not entitled to child benefit or any public benefits such as housing support. Healthcare is free at the point of use, but you pay taxes into the system and migrants pay a health surcharge on top of this

Thank you very much.

Zahra29:


This is not accurate. There is a high bar in place to qualify for housing support and universal credit and this bar is only getting higher due to inflation and other pressures. Support for a car? Maybe if you mean mobility scooter if the individual has medical evidence of disabilities. Support to travel? Perhaps for a job interview which is to remove any excuse for not being able to find work (no matter how low paid). Even child benefit is more strictly controlled and many homes and children do not receive this.

You see one thing you have to understand in Uk is that everything you need is hidden in fine print. When I write these things, I am not doing it for writing sake but I am telling you what I experience and what other people experience as well. If you need support ask questions, make calls you would get all your answers. There is a nice thread in this section for that.

Gerrard59:


Typical braggadocio! I am used to it. Giant wey dey inhale generator fumes since 1960!

BTW, you did not see the folly in your giant analogy. If Nigeria - the world's poverty capital - is the giant of Africa? What does that say about the poverty statuses of other African countries?

But generator fumes no gree your cerebrum reason am

Any how you define the gaint of Africa does not change the facts that Nigeria is still on the lead in the African continent.
Try and do your research without biase, Japa Syndrom will never see good thing from Nigeria is always Bad.
foriegn countries sees Nigeria as a big market to their Business and all you see is shithole country
I'm here in Nigeria helping another country meet their target market in Nigeria as their representative because they see what your eyes can not see.

jesmond3945:

You see one thing you have to understand in Uk is that everything you need is hidden in fine print. When I write these things, I am not doing it for writing sake but I am telling you what I experience and what other people experience as well. If you need support ask questions, make calls you would get all your answers. There is a nice thread in this section for that.

I know there is a helpful support thread on this site, I was just clarifying that the government support you mentioned e.g. housing and travel support is not available for migrants (with the exception of asylum seekers or certain other protected statuses).
It is important that would be migrants know that there is no council house or universal credit if they fall into financial difficulty

sukkot:
haha gypsys etc. na gypsys full moldova. those people can steal. now did you know that the average moldovan has only one kidney ? its because the country is so poor that they all donate and sell one kidney so as to put food on the table. the place is more wretched than nigeria. shocking horrible place. so na dem full birmingham ? lol

Those Roma people are all over Europe begging, committing crimes and generally being a nuisance.

Anyway, Europe don cast ooo... If you wanna know where to be in the next 40 years see below...

hodari:

Those Roma people are all over Europe begging, committing crimes and generally being a nuisance.

Anyway, Europe don cast ooo... If you wanna know where to be in the next 40 years see below...

yes ooooo brotherly, europe done cast patapata. lol awon romani gypsey. brother the thing is to find remote work so that i can live in naija. naija is not doing too bad. i can fill my tank for only 5 pounds ( IN UK ITS 100 PPOUNDS ).we are doing well in naija and cost of living is not too bad. what we Pay in rent for a whole year is what they pay monthly in europe. IMAGINE HAVING TO LOOK FOR YOUR YEARLY RENT EVERY MONTH ?


MY AUTO INSURANCE IS 5 POUNDS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR ( 5000 NAIRA ). IN UK ITS LIKE 2000 POUNDS FOR THE WHOLE YEAR

WE ARE DING WELL IN NAIJA. QUESTION IS DO YOU SEE IT ?

For Nigerias mind everywhere Don cast, can u compare UK and Nigeria, Nigeria don't have security, they dt have basic amenities , life is a choice, don't disturb anybody

Goodman247:
For Nigerias mind everywhere Don cast, can u compare UK and Nigeria, Nigeria don't have security, they dt have basic amenities , life is a choice, don't disturb anybody

europe done cast. about 500 knife deaths in the uk in a year. no security. no basic amenities either. God forbid you need to do emergency operation you will be on NHS waiting list for 2 years.

Phraences:


I get the thread opener's point and i get yours as well. In life you just have to get used to seeing faces different from yours. 500 years from now there might not be pure white people again. Everyone might just be mixed race. Black gene is stronger than white gene. There are some white people that are against immigration and multiculturalism because they feel the white race is dying. It is inevitable. Uk in the 80s and 90s would have been a cool place. But when there is influx of different cultures, you will start seeing issues. Arabs for example have their own ideology and related issues. There was a time there were reports of honor killings, sex slavery etc going on in some neighborhoods in UK.
I like Canada's immigration policy though. The people entering the country are more sane.

yeah lol those mad pakistanis used to kill their daughters in the uk for bringing dishonor to the family. backward people lol

but seriously lets talk about the issue of driving in the uk. i remember one insurance company because i was a new driver was quoting me 4000 pounds for the whole year. who can afford that ? just insurance alone ? thats like 4 million aira for the whole year. meanwhile here in naija its 5000 naira for the whole year ( about 5 pounds ). the issue of gas ? i can fill my tank with 6000 naira ( about 7 pounds ) meanwhile to fill your tank in UK is 100 pounds. we never talk road tax and MOT oooo .

uk done cast

jesmond3945:
you have a british passport?

here are my passports ( one is expired hence why they cut the edge ) with my trusted ogbunigwe for all the playa haters out there ( an axe to the head )

sukkot:
here are my passports ( one is expired hence why they cut the edge ) with my trusted ogbunigwe for all the playa haters out there ( an axe to the head )

congrats man. Let others cut their red passport with ogbunigwe. E get why.

jesmond3945:
congrats man. Let others cut their red passport with ogbunigwe. E get why.

lol i dont mind living in naija but i am keeping that passport. it is my birthright

sukkot:
here are my passports ( one is expired hence why they cut the edge ) with my trusted ogbunigwe for all the playa haters out there ( an axe to the head )

Adesukkot! So you are a cultist?

Europe no cast anything
Oga rest
No be only UK be Europe

hodari:

Those Roma people are all over Europe begging, committing crimes and generally being a nuisance.

Anyway, Europe don cast ooo... If you wanna know where to be in the next 40 years see below...

That’s not his passport
Na so them Dey lie
Carry random pics of person
Say nah them
Who dash this one UK
All what he has been saying he gets them from goggle baba never even reach airport
Maybe he tried and he was denied visa
Hence he cry here on nairaland about UK not good
Hahhaha

Spandau:


Adesukkot! So you are a cultist?

This is seriously funny. Please there's data about economic conditions in Nigeria, this isn't like 25 years ago. Let's quote some of them offhand -

* Only about 0.5% of Nigerian workers earn over ₦200K per month, about 95% of bank accounts contain less than ₦500K. Only 7% of Lagosians have running water in their homes...imagine the rest of the country. Life expectancy in Nigeria is about 60 years for men. That last one has been hitting home for me recently because I personally know 5 relatively healthy acquittances who left the USA & UK to live in Nigeria in the last 4 years and died from one emergency health issue or another. One just happened in Lagos LAST WEEK, the man had a heart attack and was stuck in traffic for 6 hours and died inside the car taking him to the hospital. This is someone that many of his friends had repeatedly advised him to come back to the USA. It just makes concrete the reality that choosing between Nigeria & the UK can be a matter of life and death.

I used to be a hospital lab technician. There's something called platelet concentrate that is sometimes used for babies born with some sort of haemoatology problem. When I moved back to Nigeria in 2011, I was at the FMC Hospital in Owerri when a child was born. The doctor on duty determined that the baby needed platelet concentrate. It was not available ANYWHERE. And the baby died. This is a product we used to throw away like water at my USA workplace because it has an 8 hour shelf life. The standing procedure is to have it available at all times just in case of a neonatal crisis. But in Nigeria it was NOWHERE to be found. The doctor cried and I cried too. It's not that babies don't die in the USA or UK, it's that they don't die cheaply. By the way, the son of a serving Federal Minister also died of the same thing some years ago, he had a crisis and needed a blood product that wasn't available in Nigeria. He died in an air ambulance on the way to the UK. Unfortunately I can't put their grief out here in public, but it's a lesson on how precarious life has become that someone so highly placed can't even save themselves. So much for living the good life in Nigeria.

Simply put, your chances of staying alive are higher in the West, period.

sokeril:

Not against traveling per say o but for people who has something doing in Nigeria and are doing well but abandoning it to japaa.

Yes there are people earning millions of dollars in Nigeria, I know a few field engineers in the oil & gas industry or top bankers or people working remotely for big IT companies. Yes, they are there but the more important point is that the numbers of such people in Nigeria are so few as to be negligible. They're a statistically insignificant number and their situation is getting more precarious with each passing year.

I know TWO highly placed families in Nigeria where both parents and ADULT CHILDREN and spouses and grandchildren have moved from Nigeria into the town where I live. These are people who live in Banana Island, Ikoyi, Maitama, who work at major oil & gas companies, banks and are in politics. They pulled up EVERYTHING and abandoned Nigeria. I don't live in a major city so imagine the number that are migrating to London, New York or Houston. The last push for one of them was being REPEATEDLY robbed in Abuja after fleeing the same problem in Lagos years before. The woman told me this personally.

These are people who know what is going on in Nigeria and they're leaving! It's not always about MONEY, it's also about quality of life and peace of mind. The elites of Nigeria - the perm secs, federal directors, academic elites, business moguls, top politicians - are a disgrace to the Black Race. I like the way things are going now, many of them are being forced to flee the results of their own idiocy, now in the West they have to rub shoulders with their victims on an equal basis. And everything I see tells me it's going to get worse.

sihamey:


Ask him how much he spend in UK and how much left . Don’t be deceived by social media pictures of your class mate abroad

What is the deception? It's telling that ORDINARY LOWER MIDDLE CLASS life depicted on Facebook is viewed as exaggerated luxury by Nigerians. I know many Nigerians who have been working low wage jobs for over 25 years and they all own homes in good neighborhoods and MULTIPLE cars and their kids are university graduates working good jobs. Most if not all of them have scrimped and saved to build homes in Nigeria too.
However much they spend in UK it's still enough to send plenty of money to their relatives in Nigeria.

This very topic is what brought me to Nairaland. I was SHOCKED to read people mocking the standard of living in the Anglo countries. I came to the USA with zero money, my plane ticket was bought with borrowed money. I started life working illegally in a restaurant. I know for a fact that even back then, working in that restaurant, I was better off than 99% of people in Nigeria. Summary - if I can live a good life in the West, most people can achieve it too.

I'm in the Nigerian community, I hear of people moving to UK all the time, I see people coming into my community every week, every month both illegally and legally, married with children and single, rich and poor. Even when they're starting from scratch, within a year or two they have fully paid off used car they couldn't dream of having in Nigeria, they live in apartments - maybe with a single roommate - with running water, flush toilet and 24 hour electricity. Breathing fresh air with no dust and generator fumes. They can walk the street with confidence, no police checkpoints, they can drive for hours on the highway with no fear of being waylaid by armed robbers or kidnapped. Those are things that are not guaranteed even in Lekki Phase Zero or VGC.

A Professor, a scion of one of the most prominent families in my ancestral village, was kidnapped right in front of his house in Nigeria. The kidnappers collected their 40million and still killed him.

Good thing too Nigerians going to the West now are learning to do manual work like landscaping, computer wiring/network setups, auto mechanics and mobile car wash, cooking food and selling from their homes, sewing clothes & shoe repair, so having papers is not even as much a problem as before. Honestly I wish I had such skills when I arrived here, life would have been a lot easier. There's a woman who sells Nigerian food that we patronize often, we buy like one week worth of food at a time. When you go to pick up at her home you can see they're VERY BUSY. There's one or two more people that have opened walk up - carry out restaurants. They cater parties too. A Nigerian mobile car washer cleaned my car last week, he came to the office and did it. Who needs Green Card to do that?

Nigeria today is not a good place to live for the VAST MAJORITY and it must be a terrible burden to even be rich in the midst of such misery. Hopefully it will get better but all this fakery about life in Nigeria must stop. Y'all know you're not real.