INTRODUCTION:
According to the Qur'an and Islam, it seems as if it was Allah himself that created Christianity. We may need to read the Qur'an to understand.

Three Helpful Qurans:
1. Allah is the best deceiver
Qur'an 3:54
And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.

2. Allah misleads People at will
Qur'an 14:4
Never have We sent a Messenger but he has addressed his people in their language that he may fully expound his Message to them. (And after the Message is expounded), Allah lets go astray whomsoever He wills, and guides to the Right Way whomsoever He wills. He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

3. Even satan accuses Allah of misleading him
Qur'an 15:33
[Iblees] said, "My Lord, because You have misled me into error , I will surely make [disobedience] attractive to them on earth, and I will mislead them all


How Did Allah Create Christianity according to Islam
1. Introduce to the earth a man born of a virgin who is the Word of God and a Spirit Proceeding (present continuous) from him. The only human to be Word and Spirit.
2. From babyhood, this human is full of Wisdom amd starts speaking (of course by the permission of Allah)
3. As a man, this man called Jesus or Isa begins to do miracles only God can do by knowing the secret of mens heart and giving life to molded clay. (The only partner in the work of creation of living things by the permission of Allah).
4. This same man was HOLY as he never commited any sin as ALL children of Adam are destined to.
5. This man taught about God and had many followers and disciples.
6. Because this man had enemies (the Jews and Romans) who wanted to kill Him, Allah SECRETLY took him alive to heaven so that he was neither Crucified nor killed.
7. This secrecy was so perfectly done that Mary his mother, the eleven core disciples, the followers of Jesus and his brothers and sisters didn't know anything about it
8. Allah made sure that EVERYONE including the Jews, the Romans, Mary his mother, the eleven core disciples, the followers of Jesus and his brothers and sisters ALL thought that the man on the cross was Jesus.
9. Since the Deception was complete, the disciples and followers of Jesus now called Christians continued preaching : saying that Jesus was killed by crucifixion but rose from the dead and was taken up to heaven in their presence.
10. For six hundred years after, Allah watched his deception grow and multiply before correcting the Christians with NO EXPLANATION of what truly happened.


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

Thank you!


Cc:
LegalWolf
AntiChristian:..
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:
alfarouq:
ictplotter:
Watinani:

You had to insult your moon god just to prove to yourself that you're doing the right thing

Who is Allah

lordm:
Who is Allah

Allah is the God of the Muslims.

TenQ:
INTRODUCTION:
According to the Qur'an and Islam, it seems as if it was Allah himself that created Christianity. We may need to read the Qur'an to understand.

Three Helpful Qurans:
1. Allah is the best deceiver
Qur'an 3:54
And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.

2. Allah misleads People at will
Qur'an 14:4
Never have We sent a Messenger but he has addressed his people in their language that he may fully expound his Message to them. (And after the Message is expounded), Allah lets go astray whomsoever He wills, and guides to the Right Way whomsoever He wills. He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

3. Even satan accuses Allah of misleading him
Qur'an 15:33
[Iblees] said, "My Lord, because You have misled me into error , I will surely make [disobedience] attractive to them on earth, and I will mislead them all


How Did Allah Create Christianity according to Islam
1. Introduce to the earth a man born of a virgin who is the Word of God and a Spirit Proceeding (present continuous) from him. The only human to be Word and Spirit.
2. From babyhood, this human is full of Wisdom amd starts speaking (of course by the permission of Allah)
3. As a man, this man called Jesus or Isa begins to do miracles only God can do by knowing the secret of mens heart and giving life to molded clay. (The only partner in the work of creation of living things by the permission of Allah).
4. This same man was HOLY as he never commited any sin as ALL children of Adam are destined to.
5. This man taught about God and had many followers and disciples.
6. Because this man had enemies (the Jews and Romans) who wanted to kill Him, Allah SECRETLY took him alive to heaven so that he was neither Crucified nor killed.
7. This secrecy was so perfectly done that Mary his mother, the eleven core disciples, the followers of Jesus and his brothers and sisters didn't know anything about it
8. Allah made sure that EVERYONE including the Jews, the Romans, Mary his mother, the eleven core disciples, the followers of Jesus and his brothers and sisters ALL thought that the man on the cross was Jesus.
9. Since the Deception was complete, the disciples and followers of Jesus now called Christians continued preaching : saying that Jesus was killed by crucifixion but rose from the dead and was taken up to heaven in their presence.
10. For six hundred years after, Allah watched his deception grow and multiply before correcting the Christians with NO EXPLANATION of what truly happened.


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

Thank you!


Cc:
LegalWolf
AntiChristian:..
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:
alfarouq:
ictplotter:
Watinani:

Lol, I thank you so much for being the first on your mention list. BUT YOU ARE A SHAMELESS, IGNOBLE, MORALLY BANKRUPT LIAR pretty boy TenQ.


The simple Charge is: DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT TELL A LIE TO WIN AN ARGUMENT WHEN YOU CLAIM:

1. INJEEL IS ALL THE BOOKS (not books) OF THE CHRISTIANS AND

2. THE SAME INJEEL IS A TERM FOR THE FIRST FOUR BOOKS (NOT BOOK) THAT ARAB CHRISTIANS CALL THEIR BIBLE.

Just a simple question, please. If we can demonstrate that you are a shameless, worthless, ignoble liar who has told lies in order to win an argument, what gives us the confidence that you won’t LIE again in this engagement?

LegalWolf:



Lol, I thank you so much for being the first on your mention list. [highlight] BUT YOU ARE A SHAMELESS, IGNOBLE, MORALLY BANKRUPT LIAR [\highlight] pretty boy TenQ.


The simple Charge is: DID YOU OR DID YOU NOT TELL A LIE TO WIN AN ARGUMENT WHEN YOU CLAIM:

1. INJEEL IS ALL THE BOOKS (not books) OF THE CHRISTIANS AND

2. THE SAME INJEEL IS A TERM FOR THE FIRST FOUR BOOKS (NOT BOOK) THAT ARAB CHRISTIANS CALL THEIR BIBLE.

Just a simple question, please. If we can demonstrate that you are a shameless, worthless, ignoble liar who has told lies in order to win an argument, what gives us the confidence that you won’t LIE again in this engagement?

LOL!
It is a conclusion that You've been bursted clean your thrashing about doesn't mean a thing: it's even amusing

Your Question is easy and simple
THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

TenQ:

Allah is the God of the Muslims.

okay

TenQ:

LOL!
It is a conclusion that You've been bursted clean your thrashing about doesn't mean a thing: it's even amusing

Your Question is easy and simple
THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

LOL! yhwh bears me witness that I will answer the question. If you can give a direct call to Jesus (oh sorry, the name Jesus is meaningless per your logic), he will tell you that I am prepared to answer that question. In fact, I will do this by citing the purported words of Apostle Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 where yhwh (or yehoshua I don't know which one of the gods because I am confused.. LOL) sent delusions to the lawless one. FOR EMPHASIS, YHWH WAS BEING A DECEPTIVE CROOK ACCORDING TO OUR BELOVED APOSTLE PAUL...WASN'T HE?

I think I must tell you this upfront. You quote the Quran a lot. This indicates familiarity with, but not necessarily grasp, of the subject matter. However, I loathe to cite the bible because it is like giving credence to nonsense. You remember how yhwh was furious when the calf was worshipped, that is the way I am always furious when I cite the bible/NT. And I do not cite it as an authority for anything... Just to engage you and discuss further.

That said, you have once said RELIGION IS EVERYTHING MAN DOES TO PLEASE GOD. While we may differ in faith, I completely accept this view. Now the question to you is: is your religion or yhwh pleased with telling lies ?

I love the way you opened a new thread. I am on page 1 so people can see that you are nothing but an ignoble, fraudulent, mischievous and shameless LIAR . Your statement reproduced below is unintelligible to say the least, pretty boy .

TenQ:

LOL!
It is a conclusion that You've been bursted clean your thrashing about doesn't mean a thing: it's even amusing

Your Question is easy and simple
THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

Now to the matter, is this not your claim 1?

TenQ:

Is the book of John part of the books of the Christians?

The Question is
1. What name does the Qur'an give to the books of Moses? Is it a single book? NO!
It is a Library of FIVE books.
2. What name does the Qur'an give to the books of the Christians? Injeel! But the Injeel is ALL the books of the Christians!

(underlined mine).

What about this, were you not the one who said this?

TenQ:
FACTS
The use of the word Injeel predates Islam.
The word Injeel is STRICLY used by the Arab Christians as a Term for the first four books of their bible called Gospel (wherein is a collection of the life and ministry of Jesus Christ).

(underline mine)

After choking your lying fraudulent neck further for evidence, did you not say this too?

TenQ:


The LIES (ACCORDING TO LEGALWOLF) THAT TENQ MADE!?[/b
]
"Al-Injeel is Arabic for the Book of Jesus, or [b]what Christians call the New Testament. "

https://www.crescentproject.org/blog/istheinjeelcorrupted


Here is an Islamic website written by Muslims for Muslims like LegalWolf.

The word ‘gospel’ is derived from the Anglo-Saxon term ‘god-spell’, meaning ‘good story’, a rendering of the Latin ‘evangelium’ and the Greek ‘euangelion’ (Arabic; Injil), meaning ‘good news’ or “good telling”. The 73 or 66 books of Bible include four Gospels. The Gospel, is any of four biblical narratives covering the life, the person, death (according to Christian belief) and the teachings of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him), as he was remembered by the Christian community.

https://salaamone.com/theology/guidance/sacred-scriptures/bible/new-testament/gospels/

'LOL, is .. the Gospel, is any of four biblical narratives ... the same as .. a term for the first four books (not book) so where is the lie that you 'bursted' ?

LegalWolf:
I love the way you opened a new thread. I am on page 1 so people can see that you are nothing but an ignoble, fraudulent, mischievous and shameless LIAR . Your statement reproduced below is unintelligible to say the least, pretty boy .


Now to the matter, is this not your claim 1?

(underlined mine).

What about this, were you not the one who said this?

(underline mine)

After choking your lying fraudulent neck further for evidence, did you not say this too?



'LOL, is .. the Gospel, is any of four biblical narratives ... the same as .. a term for the first four books (not book) so where is the lie that you 'bursted' ?

Easy boy!

TenQ:

LOL! I didn't know it pained you this much!

It is a conclusion that You've been bursted clean your thrashing about doesn't mean a thing: it's even amusing

Your Question is easy and simple
THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

LegalWolf:


LOL! yhwh bears me witness that I will answer the question. If you can give a direct call to Jesus (oh sorry, the name Jesus is meaningless per your logic), he will tell you that I am prepared to answer that question. In fact, I will do this by citing the purported words of Apostle Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 where yhwh (or yehoshua I don't know which one of the gods because I am confused.. LOL) sent delusions to the lawless one. FOR EMPHASIS, YHWH WAS BEING A DECEPTIVE CROOK ACCORDING TO OUR BELOVED APOSTLE PAUL...WASN'T HE?

I think I must tell you this upfront. You quote the Quran a lot. This indicates familiarity with, but not necessarily grasp, of the subject matter. However, I loathe to cite the bible because it is like giving credence to nonsense. You remember how yhwh was furious when the calf was worshipped, that is the way I am always furious when I cite the bible/NT. And I do not cite it as an authority for anything... Just to engage you and discuss further.

That said, you have once said RELIGION IS EVERYTHING MAN DOES TO PLEASE GOD. While we may differ in faith, I completely accept this view. Now the question to you is: is your religion or yhwh pleased with telling lies ?

Sorry!
Crying over spilt milk does no one ANY good.

The question is very easy.

THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?


You may call a friend!
LOL!

TenQ:

Sorry!
Crying over spilt milk does no one ANY good.

The question is very easy.

THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?


You may call a friend!
LOL!

LOL! BUT YOUR ARE A LIAR Pretty boy . . You are a shameless, ignoble, morally bankrupt and deceptive LIAR!. Your reputation has been destroyed by the dogs and the residue thrown in the septic tank.

Bear in mind that you said something along the lines that religion is everything man does to please God. Also remember that ' .. all LIARS - they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death' . Revelations 21:8. These were the purported words of yhwh.

So back to the question: If your god expressly says that ALL LIARS SHALL BE CONFINED TO FIERY LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR , and religion is everything you do to please your god, yet we have irrefutable proof that you are a shameless, ignoble and morally bankrupt LIAR. Why on earth should I engage you on religion when you discard the words of your god?

TenQ:

Easy boy!

BUT YOU ARE A LIAR TENQ. Didn't the bible say a good name is better than riches? So why soil your name and discard yhwh's command?

LegalWolf:


LOL! BUT YOUR ARE A LIAR Pretty boy . . You are a shameless, ignoble, morally bankrupt and deceptive LIAR!. Your reputation has been destroyed by the dogs and the residue thrown in the septic tank.

Bear in mind that you said something along the lines that religion is everything man does to please God. Also remember that ' .. all LIARS - they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death' . Revelations 21:8. These were the purported words of yhwh.

So back to the question: If your god expressly says that ALL LIARS SHALL BE CONFINED TO FIERY LAKE OF BURNING SULFUR , and religion is everything you do to please your god, yet we have irrefutable proof that you are a shameless, ignoble and morally bankrupt LIAR. Why on earth should I engage you on religion when you discard the words of your god?

LegalWolf:



BUT YOU ARE A LIAR TENQ. Didn't the bible say a good name is better than riches? So why soil your name and discard yhwh's command?

Stop being emotional!
The backslam I gave you is painful: right!?
I'm so sorry. That's why I'm giving you a softer meat to chew, just one question.

Crying over spilt milk does no one ANY good.


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?


You may call a friend!
LOL!

TenQ:



Stop being emotional!
The backslam I gave you is painful: right!?
I'm so sorry. That's why I'm giving you a softer meat to chew, just one question.

Crying over spilt milk does no one ANY good.


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?


You may call a friend!
LOL!

LOL, but you are a LIAR. Are you not, pretty boy ? You should be aware of the extensive theology behind the second death and I am trying to save you from it. ALL these rigmarole would not save you - back to the question: why are you a LIAR? If we have irrefutable evidence that you are a shameless, ignoble, morally bankrupt LIAR, why should we engage you (even when your yhwh counsels that liars shall burn in fire)?

Modified: [This post was initially for space booking]

To whom it may concern:

This thread was specifically opened to ridicule Islam. Now we have invited the fraudulent lying OP to check his bible, particularly the New Testament, for the following verse:

For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 2 Thessalonians 2:11

Not that yhwh is any different as in the Old Testament. See what one of his prophets had to say:

Then I said, “Alas, Sovereign Lord! How completely you have deceived this people and Jerusalem by saying, ‘You will have peace,’ when the sword is at our throats!” Jeremiah 4:10

Or should we go ahead and completely unravel 'fowl yansh'? You all can do with the information what you want to do with it!
cc: TenQ

LegalWolf:


LOL, but you are a LIAR. Are you not, pretty boy ? You should be aware of the extensive theology behind the second death and I am trying to save you from it. ALL these rigmarole would not save you - back to the question: why are you a LIAR? If we have irrefutable evidence that you are a shameless, ignoble, morally bankrupt LIAR, why should we engage you (even when your yhwh counsels that liars shall burn in fire)?

Railing like a rabid dog doesn't free you.
Stop being emotional!

Crying over spilt milk does no one ANY good.


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?


You may call a friend!
LOL!

TenQ:

Railing like a rabid dog doesn't free you.
Stop being emotional!

Crying over spilt milk does no one ANY good.


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?



You may call a friend!
LOL!

LOL! IS THE SPILT MILK AN ADMISSION THAT YOU LIED? If it is, I want it to be express admission not going through the corners please. Don't be like our old friend who said everyone lies. Admit it with your full chest. That is the starting point for further conversation, please!

Anyways, I am the one who you should be thanking for setting you free. Pretty boyyyyy , I do not want you to perish as yhwh was purported to have said in Romans 2: 8 - 12. I do not want you to end up in fire burning with sulfur as yhwh was alleged to have said in Revelations 21:8. That is why I am calling you a liar and asking you to admit (then the issue of repentance is between you and yhwh may be genuine and real)

You claim I am being emotional, are you triggered by my references to the bible?

LegalWolf:


LOL! IS THE SPILT MILK AN ADMISSION THAT YOU LIED? If it is, I want it to be express admission not going through the corners please. Don't be like our old friend who said everyone lies. Admit it with your full chest. That is the starting point for further conversation, please!

Anyways, I am the one who you should be thanking for setting you free. Pretty boyyyyy , I do not want you to perish as yhwh was purported to have said in Romans 2: 8 - 12. I do not want you to end up in fire burning with sulfur as yhwh was alleged to have said in Revelations 21:8. That is why I am calling you a liar and asking you to admit (then the issue of repentance is between you and yhwh may be genuine and real)

You claim I am being emotional, are you triggered by my references to the bible?

THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?



You may call a friend! They all seem to be quiet!
LOL!

TenQ:


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?



You may call a friend! They all seem to be quiet!
LOL!

LOL! Why on earth would they want to discuss with a fraudulent, despicable and morally bankrupt liar?

LegalWolf:


LOL! Why on earth would they want to discuss with a fraudulent, despicable and morally bankrupt liar?

Perhaps your situation is beyond help as YOU LegalWolf cannot answer.

Again:

THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?



You may call a friend! They all seem to be quiet!
LOL!

TenQ:

Perhaps your situation is beyond help as YOU LegalWolf cannot answer.

Again:

THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?



You may call a friend! They all seem to be quiet!
LOL!

LOL! No one would answer a fraud who lies to win an argument. Who is so shameless to admit to the truth. Who had to change gear when called upon to explain whether the book of John is that of divine creation or fraudulent (by claiming a premise of an argument is his conclusion), who worships a yhwh that basks in deception. Who worships a tribalistic god that is nothing but a war criminal. Who sent bears to tear up 42 young innocent kids just because they called his prophet bald.... I can go on and on, but where should I even start from?

BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU TENQ ARE NOTHING BUT A FRAUDULENT, DUBIOUS, SHAMELESS, IGNOBLE AND MORALLY BANKRUPT LIAR... ARE YOU NOT?

TenQ:

Perhaps your situation is beyond help as YOU LegalWolf cannot answer.

Again:

THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?



You may call a friend! They all seem to be quiet!
LOL!

And one more thing, pretty boy: I have told you countlessly that I am prepared to answer your questions. But there is a moral burden on you. Your character is in tatters. Your reputation is torn like the cloth of a mad man on the streets. No one has confidence that what you spew will be truthful. And the only way you can redeem yourself and satisfy the moral burden is to:

a. Expressly admit that these allegations you made about the Injeel are LIES;

b. Expressly admit that you lied in respect of your conclusion when I summarized your claims/argument; or

c. Expressly admit that you lied and was being deceptive when you insinuated that you are for the truth and not to win an argument.

This is our starting point as no one wants to engage a fraudulent character. Remember that yhwh has counseled that bad company ruin good morals. 1 Corinthians 15:33 So ye tell us why why on earth we should engage a fraudulent liar in view of yhwh's counsel?

LegalWolf:

LOL! No one would answer a fraud who lies to win an argument. Who is so shameless to admit to the truth. Who had to change gear when called upon to explain whether the book of John is that of divine creation or fraudulent (by claiming a premise of an argument is his conclusion), who worships a yhwh that basks in deception. Who worships a tribalistic god that is nothing but a war criminal. Who sent bears to tear up 42 young innocent kids just because they called his prophet bald.... I can go on and on, but where should I even start from?

BUT THEN AGAIN, YOU TENQ ARE NOTHING BUT A FRAUDULENT, DUBIOUS, SHAMELESS, IGNOBLE AND MORALLY BANKRUPT LIAR... ARE YOU NOT?

LegalWolf:


And one more thing, pretty boy: I have told you countlessly that I am prepared to answer your questions. But there is a moral burden on you. Your character is in tatters. Your reputation is torn like the cloth of a mad man on the streets. No one has confidence that what you spew will be truthful. And the only way you can redeem yourself and satisfy the moral burden is to:

a. Expressly admit that these allegations you made about the Injeel are LIES;

b. Expressly admit that you lied in respect of your conclusion when I summarized your claims/argument; or

c. Expressly admit that you lied and was being deceptive when you insinuated that you are for the truth and not to win an argument.

This is our starting point as no one wants to engage a fraudulent character. Remember that yhwh has counseled that bad company ruin good morals. 1 Corinthians 15:33 So ye tell us why why on earth we should engage a fraudulent liar in view of yhwh's counsel?

There is no running away with VOLUMES of words, I've asked you a simple Question.

Again:

THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?



You may call a friend! They all seem to be quiet!
LOL!

TenQ:




There is no running away with VOLUMES of words, I've asked you a simple Question.

Again:

THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?



You may call a friend! They all seem to be quiet!
LOL!

And I have answered on their behalf, our pretty boy . Is yhwh not alleged to have said: we should not be deceived...bad company ruin good morals? ? (you can check 1 Corinthians 15:33 if you are unsure). Are you not a FRAUDULENT, IGNOBLE, MORALLY BANKRUPT LIAR? So, why should we engage you (bad company) in view of yhwh's counsel?


Very simple question!

LegalWolf:


And I have answered on their behalf, our pretty boy . Is yhwh not alleged to have said: we should not be deceived...bad company ruin good morals? ? (you can check 1 Corinthians 15:33 if you are unsure). Are you not a FRAUDULENT, IGNOBLE, MORALLY BANKRUPT LIAR? So, why should we engage you (bad company) in view of yhwh's counsel?


Very simple question!

Let me remind you of the premise that led to the question as you and your fellows are frantically doing everything to be MUTE as shame will not let you respond to the question.


INTRODUCTION:
According to the Qur'an and Islam, it seems as if it was Allah himself that created Christianity. We may need to read the Qur'an to understand.

Three Helpful Qurans:
1. Allah is the best deceiver
Qur'an 3:54
And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.

2. Allah misleads People at will
Qur'an 14:4
Never have We sent a Messenger but he has addressed his people in their language that he may fully expound his Message to them. (And after the Message is expounded), Allah lets go astray whomsoever He wills, and guides to the Right Way whomsoever He wills. He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

3. Even satan accuses Allah of misleading him
Qur'an 15:33
[Iblees] said, "My Lord, because You have misled me into error , I will surely make [disobedience] attractive to them on earth, and I will mislead them all


How Did Allah Create Christianity according to Islam
1. Introduce to the earth a man born of a virgin who is the Word of God and a Spirit Proceeding (present continuous) from him. The only human to be Word and Spirit.
2. From babyhood, this human is full of Wisdom amd starts speaking (of course by the permission of Allah)
3. As a man, this man called Jesus or Isa begins to do miracles only God can do by knowing the secret of mens heart and giving life to molded clay. (The only partner in the work of creation of living things by the permission of Allah).
4. This same man was HOLY as he never commited any sin as ALL children of Adam are destined to.
5. This man taught about God and had many followers and disciples.
6. Because this man had enemies (the Jews and Romans) who wanted to kill Him, Allah SECRETLY took him alive to heaven so that he was neither Crucified nor killed.
7. This secrecy was so perfectly done that Mary his mother, the eleven core disciples, the followers of Jesus and his brothers and sisters didn't know anything about it
8. Allah made sure that EVERYONE including the Jews, the Romans, Mary his mother, the eleven core disciples, the followers of Jesus and his brothers and sisters ALL thought that the man on the cross was Jesus.
9. Since the Deception was complete, the disciples and followers of Jesus now called Christians continued preaching : saying that Jesus was killed by crucifixion but rose from the dead and was taken up to heaven in their presence.
10. For six hundred years after, Allah watched his deception grow and multiply before correcting the Christians with NO EXPLANATION of what truly happened.


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

Thank you!


Cc:
LegalWolf
AntiChristian:..
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:
alfarouq:
ictplotter:
Watinani:

LegalWolf:


And I have answered on their behalf, our pretty boy . Is yhwh not alleged to have said: we should not be deceived...bad company ruin good morals? ? (you can check 1 Corinthians 15:33 if you are unsure). Are you not a FRAUDULENT, IGNOBLE, MORALLY BANKRUPT LIAR? So, why should we engage you (bad company) in view of yhwh's counsel?


Very simple question!

When you can't answer the question you decide to question the op's character his God will judge him for his sins just defend your religion, he asked a question answer or keep quiet.

TenQ:
INTRODUCTION:
According to the Qur'an and Islam, it seems as if it was Allah himself that created Christianity. We may need to read the Qur'an to understand.

Three Helpful Qurans:
1. Allah is the best deceiver
Qur'an 3:54
And they cheated/deceived and Allah cheated/deceived, and Allah (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers.

2. Allah misleads People at will
Qur'an 14:4
Never have We sent a Messenger but he has addressed his people in their language that he may fully expound his Message to them. (And after the Message is expounded), Allah lets go astray whomsoever He wills, and guides to the Right Way whomsoever He wills. He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.

3. Even satan accuses Allah of misleading him
Qur'an 15:33
[Iblees] said, "My Lord, because You have misled me into error , I will surely make [disobedience] attractive to them on earth, and I will mislead them all


How Did Allah Create Christianity according to Islam
1. Introduce to the earth a man born of a virgin who is the Word of God and a Spirit Proceeding (present continuous) from him. The only human to be Word and Spirit.
2. From babyhood, this human is full of Wisdom amd starts speaking (of course by the permission of Allah)
3. As a man, this man called Jesus or Isa begins to do miracles only God can do by knowing the secret of mens heart and giving life to molded clay. (The only partner in the work of creation of living things by the permission of Allah).
4. This same man was HOLY as he never commited any sin as ALL children of Adam are destined to.
5. This man taught about God and had many followers and disciples.
6. Because this man had enemies (the Jews and Romans) who wanted to kill Him, Allah SECRETLY took him alive to heaven so that he was neither Crucified nor killed.
7. This secrecy was so perfectly done that Mary his mother, the eleven core disciples, the followers of Jesus and his brothers and sisters didn't know anything about it
8. Allah made sure that EVERYONE including the Jews, the Romans, Mary his mother, the eleven core disciples, the followers of Jesus and his brothers and sisters ALL thought that the man on the cross was Jesus.
9. Since the Deception was complete, the disciples and followers of Jesus now called Christians continued preaching : saying that Jesus was killed by crucifixion but rose from the dead and was taken up to heaven in their presence.
10. For six hundred years after, Allah watched his deception grow and multiply before correcting the Christians with NO EXPLANATION of what truly happened.


THE QUESTION:
It is understandable if Allah Deceived the Jews and the Romans. Can you as Muslims please explain the logical reason why Allah Deceived ALSO Mary the Mother of Jesus, all Jesus Disciples, Jesus's Family (brothers and sisters) and all followers and friends of Jesus?

Thank you!


Cc:
LegalWolf
AntiChristian:..
compton11:
haekymbahd:
mhmsadyq:
alfarouq:
ictplotter:
Watinani:

I love what you are doing but why do you do this ? And are you an ex Moslem?

Lawag3:


I love what you are doing but why do you do this ? And are you an ex Moslem?

I almost became a Muslim in my 200L in the University because I read a lot of Ahmed Deedat's book. Ahmed Deedat attacked the bible, trinity and every foundation of the Christian theology that had to do with salvation. I had counted the cost as per my parents: they'll be hurt but they won't disown me nor stop paying my tuition.

I decided to get myself a copy of the "Glorious Qur'an" (an English translation of the Arabic Qur'an) and I began to see contradictions within the disjointed verses. Only within Surat-ul Yusuf would you find any complete story of anyone.

I could understand if the Qur'an contradicted the New Testment, but I couldn't stomach the fact that the Qur'an contradicted BOTH the Scripture of the Jews and the Christians. I was a bookworm then, so I was fortunate to see the volumes of hadiths in my state library. The more I read, the more I discovered that Islam's main purpose is to prevent salvation through Christ. This is disturbing especially for a religion where Mohammed confessed that he doesn't know what will befall him or Muslims as per salvation after death. The character of Mohammed too is troubling: only a Messanger of Satan can have his kind of nature.

I decided to go back to independently look at the three monotheistic religions for comprehension. I rededicated my life back to Christ thereafter. I made it my mission to scrutinize scriptures, ask questions and understand both the bible and any other so-called scripture like the Qur'an.

I noticed very early on that the weakness of Muslims is that they don't ASK Questions about their faith. Much later I discovered so many delebrate LIES, MISINFORMATION and DECEPTION within the whole of Islam. Too much COVERUP of the truth.

I therefore ASK them Questions they wouldn't ask to push them to the Truth.

As per LegalWolf , he is pained because
1. He couldn't answer 90% of the Questions I asked him
2. I exposed his many lies in our last discussion thread.
He is this trying to use reverse psychology: If you repeat a lie many times, the lie begin to look like the truth. He went so low as to edit my post and inserted his own words so that he could use it against me.

I am asking him and his people just ONE question. Rather than a response, they've all melted away except the HURT and PAINED LegalWolf who instead of answering the simple question is throwing tantrums all about.

Thanks for your input.

TenQ:

I almost became a Muslim in my 200L in the University because I read a lot of Ahmed Deedat's book. Ahmed Deedat attacked the bible, trinity and every foundation of the Christian theology that had to do with salvation. I had counted the cost as per my parents: they'll be hurt but they won't disown me nor stop paying my tuition.

I decided to get myself a copy of the "Glorious Qur'an" (an English translation of the Arabic Qur'an) and I began to see contradictions within the disjointed verses. Only within Surat-ul Yusuf would you find any complete story of anyone.

I could understand if the Qur'an contradicted the New Testment, but I couldn't stomach the fact that the Qur'an contradicted BOTH the Scripture of the Jews and the Christians. I was a bookworm then, so I was fortunate to see the volumes of hadiths in my state library. The more I read, the more I discovered that Islam's main purpose is to prevent salvation through Christ. This is disturbing especially for a religion where Mohammed confessed that he doesn't know what will befall him or Muslims as per salvation after death. The character of Mohammed too is troubling: only a Messanger of Satan can have his kind of nature.

I decided to go back to independently look at the three monotheistic religions for comprehension. I rededicated my life back to Christ thereafter. I made it my mission to scrutinize scriptures, ask questions and understand both the bible and any other so-called scripture like the Qur'an.

I noticed very early on that the weakness of Muslims is that they don't ASK Questions about their faith. Much later I discovered so many delebrate LIES, MISINFORMATION and DECEPTION within the whole of Islam. Too much COVERUP of the truth.

I therefore ASK them Questions they wouldn't ask to push them to the Truth.

As per LegalWolf , he is pained because
1. He couldn't answer 90% of the Questions I asked him
2. I exposed his many lies in our last discussion thread.
He is this trying to use reverse psychology: If you repeat a lie many times, the lie begin to look like the truth. He went so low as to edit my post and inserted his own words so that he could use it against me.

I am asking him and his people just ONE question. Rather than a response, they've all melted away except the HURT and PAINED LegalWolf who instead of answering the simple question is throwing tantrums all about.

Thanks for your input.

Hey Lawag3,

Many thanks for your concern and I am unsure if you are a Muslim or Christian. But can I ask you a question: if you will be objective, can TenQ and I detail our posts on what we think it is a lie and you come up with what you think and who you think is lying.

You don’t know me from Adam so I expect at least honesty and disinterest from you. And if you are a Muslim, please do not tilt your opinion in my favour because I am a Muslim. And if you’re a Christian, I beg you in the name of what you hold dear not to be bias.

That said, since TenQ as alleged that I am trying to use reverse psychology, let him point out to the lie I told appropriately quoting me (so you can cross-check) and I’ll have just the opportunity to rebut him. After my rebuttal, then you can let us know what you think. Is that fine?

Lawag3:


When you can't answer the question you decide to question the op's character his God will judge him for his sins just defend your religion, he asked a question answer or keep quiet.

Oh jeeeez, I’m just seeing this quote. Okay now I know where the balance is as apparently you have taken a side.

Now let me tell you why I can’t answer the question:

We are not engaging on Agbado, cassava, ewa and garri. We are not discussing on who is the best footballer on earth but talking about religion. “Religion” is what TenQ has said it is everything man does to please God. Bear that in mind.

In our engagement about religion, TenQ has LIED. The situation would have been totally different if he innocently told an untrue statement about religion and when corrected, apologize and retract. But rather, he has lied and persisted in his lie. He keeps regaling in his foolery and he knows he is lying and he has not retracted the lie.

So, you tell me, if you are engaging in a conversation with someone who has shown that he is a liar, and has basked in tomfoolery, why:

a. You would want to engage him further

b. You have any assurance he is not going to lie again in his future conversation?

All the cock and bill story about his time in the University is for the dogs. If he is so confident about his religion, why tell lies about someone else’s deliberately?

LegalWolf:


Hey Lawag3,

Many thanks for your concern and I am unsure if you are a Muslim or Christian. But can I ask you a question: if you will be objective, can TenQ and I detail our posts on what we think it is a lie and you come up with what you think and who you think is lying.

You don’t know me from Adam so I expect at least honesty and disinterest from you. And if you are a Muslim, please do not tilt your opinion in my favour because I am a Muslim. And if you’re a Christian, I beg you in the name of what you hold dear not to be bias.

That said, since TenQ as alleged that I am trying to use reverse psychology, let him point out to the lie I told appropriately quoting me (so you can cross-check) and I’ll have just the opportunity to rebut him. After my rebuttal, then you can let us know what you think. Is that fine?

Yeah it's fine