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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:06pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas: Bro, stop lying, Russians hasn't made any gains for over 3 months, Please the so call amagadon general, was in Russian TV and declared that Russian force's are moving out of Kherson, You are here claiming they are still there' ![]() Please attached to your reply with Prof that Russia has made any gains in over 3 months, Go to telegram and see pro Putin criticizing the pull out 4 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by texazzpete(m): 2:06pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas: Power will be restored to Kyiv pretty soon. But i can see the depths you people have fallen to. From counting victories in settlements captured, you're now settled for counting the number if civilians temporarily inconvenienced. And yes, there's growing war fatigue in Russia. Go and ask the mothers of the mobilized troops if they want their kids to still be fighting Putin's senseless war. Ukraine isn't offering peace terms. This story is false. They want to hammer Russia even more on the battlefield so when they come to the table, they'll come like beaten dogs. 3 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by orisa37: 2:07pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
UKRAINE, FINLAND, NORWAY AND TURKEY ARE RIGHT FOR STRENGTHENING NATO. RUSSIA IS UP TO NO GOOD. PUTIN IS THE MADMAN HERE. TELL PUTIN HE IS MAD FOR INVADING ANOTHER MAN IN HIS HOME. 4 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by kingthreat(m): 2:07pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Penguin2: Is homosexuality light? |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Sagamite(m): 2:08pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
SeeThisLoser: Moronic and propagandish news report. I am sure the only negotiations Putin will agree to are: 1) Crimea remains part of Russia 2) Donbas/captured region is run separately (like Taiwan/Kosovo) 3) The West ends/softens economic sanctions aimed at destroying Russia 4) Ukraine stops any military progress Then Putin will stop the bombing of the Rest of Ukraine and let grains go around the world. The West cannot sustain their support for Ukraine. Russia cannot sustain the war while the West is blocking his weapons development supply chain. But Russia does have longer sustainance of war than the West's support sustainance. Hence, the West will have to come to the negotiating table. As long as Russia intends to continue the war, the West will: a) Have to fund Ukraine's War efforts b) Send aid around the world as people starve c) Deal with conflicts breaking out around the world as people blame governments for their hunger and bias/marginalisation d) Then deal with high rates of migration to their countries as people flee hunger These will be too expensive for the West and throw them in turmoil as they have too many woke iiidiots. They will want to end this war! They will rather use far less funds to help rebuild the rest of Ukraine. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by olugabbie(m): 2:08pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Onyiiobi7735: Crimea is simply not enough for Putin. The minimum he can take is the entire Donbas, part of Kherson the Russian troops currently occupy and part of Zaprophizia they occupy as well. 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by israelmao(m): 2:09pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Those who were here in Nigeria at the outset of Russia-Urkraine war and beating their chests on behalf of Russia in assurance of her ability of wipping out Urkraine in just one week should bury their heads in deep shame.Putin has fled before Urkraine in great fear. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Funmisurge(m): 2:10pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Penguin2: U are just too myopics in thinking. How does Russia/Ukraine apply to our political scenarios in Nigeria. U are aiming at entering Aso Rock through gospel of obedientocrazy. Where is ur zoo nation madness few years back? Ipob sovereignty gospel of years back? Better go and have a rethink and build pan Nigeria instead of ethnicity bigotry and egocentric mannerism that have been ur way of life |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by olugabbie(m): 2:10pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Crimea is simply not enough for Putin. The minimum he can take is the entire Donbas, part of Kherson the Russian troops currently occupy and part of Zaprophizia they occupy as well. |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by HolyHero: 2:11pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Russia special forces are still in Kherson… the Russians left their spetnaz unit In the town in plain clothes to disguise as civilians and commit sabotage against the Ukrainians and gain intelligence… they’re right at the edge of the dnipre river and they’re going to bomb the hell out of Kherson just like they did to Mariupol.. Putin has said his main objective is to liberate the donbass… he has completely liberated one part of it.. it’s remaining a small portion in Donetsk… the withdrawn troops from Kherson will be diverted to the donbass… A battle doesn’t define a war.. this is a tactical withdrawal… it doesn’t mean the war is lost… Kharkiv will fall, Kherson will fall and Odessa will fall… it’s a marathon not a sprint. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 2:12pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
texazzpete: ![]() ![]() They left cos it’s militarily sound to do so. In war, its better to wound an enemy than to kill the enemy! ![]() |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by texazzpete(m): 2:13pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas: They've been battling around Bakhmut for months now. No success. Ukraine is happy to tie down the bulk of Wagner there and inflict heavy casualties on them. Imagine celebrating pulling out of massive, strategic Kherson to take over small hamlets like Ivangrad or Optyne at terrible cost. E say na 'textbook' pull out. Elegant retreat, abi? |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by HolyHero: 2:14pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
orisa37:the west invaded iraq, Afghanistan and Libya too.. I’m just saying |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:16pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
slimghost: Tactically left, the 2nd strongest army in the world, the famed red army, is now tactically leaving ![]() I feel your pain bro, The same Kherson that Putin last month claimed will be Russian forever, If you are current in the war you will know that the Russian blew up the brigades so the Ukrainian will not go after them, So are you more Russian than Russian citizens who have been critical of the pull out of its forces in Kherson, you that don't even know were an international airport is is claiming others Wise ![]() 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by SIRTee15: 2:17pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Heathrow44: Dollar hegemony is not going away anytime soon. Not because of American bullying tactics but no nation wants it's currency to replace the dollar. Even India insisted it will buy oil from Russia mostly in dollars and not in rubbles. They fear exchange of ruppies for rubbles will short change their own currency. China's control over her currency is too tight to allow for free float- a requirement for globalised currency. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by SIRTee15: 2:19pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
If russian accede to this demand, then this is the most useless war ever fought by Russians. What they offering Russia was her initial pre war status. That means u just killed your fellow russian men for nothing but stupid ego. There's not even the assurance that Ukraine won't join NATO or EU..was that not the main bone of contention. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by franktech(m): 2:21pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Russia willingly left the location my dear. The west and propaganda are like husband and wife oneolajire: |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas: The strongest army in Europe leaving because it was military sound ![]() ![]() ![]() The reason why they left was because the Russians could not supplied their troops, because the Ukrainian has been hitting the bridges and supply routes of the Russian forces in Kherson. You know why this sound as a big victory for Ukrainians Is that Kherson was the only region whose capital was in Russian hands, two Kherson is strategic located as it is a gate way for future military advance to the island of Crimea.. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 2:22pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
texazzpete: ![]() ![]() All u do is fake news! As for territories, Russia hasn’t stopped capturing territories. They recently got one. And the aim from the beginning was 1. Liberate Donbas 2. Demilitarize Ukraine and 3. Denazify the Kiev government. Not to capture Kiev or wot have u. Then expect more darkness for Ukraine with carpet bombing on the way. More refugees will flow into Poland, and EU will be ruined. |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by thesicilian: 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
I don't know why most people are happy that Russia is retreating from Kherson and taking that to mean that NATO is winning. Retreating to restrategize is a well known tactic of war that has been used by the greatest war veterans since the history of the earth itself. Russia's war against Ukraine/NATO/USA and it's allies is not only territorial, it is also economic. So far Russia is winning on both fronts. Celebrating the defeat of Russia and issuing them "terms of surrender" is either just mind games from Biden's demented brain, or pure hubris. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:26pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
franktech: Is there anything like willing left, ![]() ![]() You high? The same Kherson that Putin claimed last Month will be Russian forever, is now they willing Left, Please educate yourself, the city of Kherson was the only region whose capital was in Russian hands, And it is also strategic located as it is a gate way to the city of Crimea Russia won't give up Kherson if it wasn't force to do so Listen to the general who announce the pullout and learn instead of coming online to say rubbish.. The Russian forces were in danger of getting trapped in Kherson, as the bridges supplying the troops were destroyed 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Krismas(m): 2:28pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
obedience4: ![]() With all the progress of Wagner in Barkmut u can still be saying Russia made no gains in 3mnths? As for Kherson, even Zelensky is sure it’s a trap! He is not celebrating. U don’t know anything 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Eriokanmi: 2:31pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Useless Putin 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by ariesbull: 2:31pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
We know... Ukriane is winning online.. We are watching |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by texazzpete(m): 2:31pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas: Tell the people why it got to a situation where Russia had to abandon a major, strategic city. Was it not due to an Ukrainian counter-offensive? Was it not Ukrainian military action that forced Russia to evacuate what should have been a strongpoint? HolyHero: The only Russian forces left in Kherson in plain clothes are the ones who could not evacuate and are desperately hiding for their lives. They'll be rooted out. Russian artillery can try to bomb kherson, but you should know this isn't the early days of the war. Ukraine has attained near parity with artillery and have more accurate, long range guns. They'll smoke the Russians if they tried any of that. Russia can divert some of their withdrawn troops to the Donbas, but so can Ukraine repurpose some of the estimated 50K troops they earmarked for the Kherson assault. They'll never be able to take Kharkiv. Odessa is an impossibility. And they certainly won't be allowed to smell Kherson. Anyway, these are pipe dreams from you. Real russians are actually upset and pessimistic and they can see Russia putting down defensive lines at the North of Crimea. Keep dreaming of a Russian comeback.Meanwhile the Ukrainian offensive is set to resume. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by ariesbull: 2:32pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas:don't even blame them too much propaganda of CNN and BBC dey worry dem... Wait till winter they will fight in snows and shades 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by southpole: 2:32pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Moniya4Real:if Putin thought he can strike at Ukraine and the world will be watching without doing anything that shows that Putin may likely be a foolish person. Putin overestimated Russia and underestimated Ukraine and friends of Ukraine. overestimation and underestimation show that Putin is not wise enough. Again Putin did not collect intelligence to determine what other countries will do should he strike at Ukraine that itself shows some kind of foolishness. If you think you can attack a man and you think his friends who are your enemies will not support him, I don't know how to call that kind of thinking. 2 Likes |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:32pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Krismas: Lol, I feel your pain, not just you,but thousands of your fellow Putin sons on telegram, A city that Putin claimed was Russian forever Is now been used as a trap ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by Inyinese(m): 2:33pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
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Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by alobright17(m): 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
Osariemen12: Months ago you boasted that Russia will win within few days . So ? 1 Like |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by SPENCERD(m): 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
War is easy, it is peace that will break your heart....... Zeddicus zuzorander |
Re: Russia Offered Surrender Terms By The West After Humiliating Kherson Loss by obedience4(m): 2:34pm On Nov 12, 2022 |
ariesbull:Cry cry baby, Ukrainians have been fighting Russian backed rebels for over four years, mind you Ukrainian were also part of the old Soviet Union, dudes have been fighting in the winters for years ![]() 1 Like |
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