National Theatre Lagos

Just40:
which doesn't change the fact that everything in Kenya is more expensive than in Ghana.. which is the whole point of the inflation argument.

Pick any consumer item in Kenya and compare the price of same in Ghana and the price will be 1/3rd or 2/3rd more expensive

I don't understand do you or workers in Ghana earn the same as Kenyans ? are the incomes of workers in Ghana the same with that of Kenyans with the same skills cus i don't understand this your it's more expensive in Kenya.

If your price to income ratio is high then your argument is a non-starter. Give up

rvp2018:
It was "recently" ranked the 2nd most expensive city in world. He was always proud of how expensive it was until inflation hit and now he has to play mind numbing boneheaded propaganda that inflation shattering people livelihood is less than kenya . Even shittiest AirBnb cost 100 dollars a night like Bangui or Juba or somewhere that remote and unsafe.

Now with hyperinflation - Accra is definitely the world most expensive city - competing with Bangui or such cities no more.

Yea the irony........i remembered one of them specifically told me on the other thread that i was poor for complaining about how expensive Ghana was only for Hollywood actor to share in my frustration.

popizaino:


Yea the irony........i remembered one of them specifically told me on the other thread that i was poor for complaining about how expensive Ghana was only for Hollywood actor to share in my frustration.

Over twice the cost in U.S?? Is this true or this guy is just capping? cos no matter how expensive Ghana is, that doesn't look likely.

GeneralDae:

Over twice the cost in U.S?? Is this true or this guy is just capping? cos no matter how expensive Ghana is, that doesn't look likely.

Things are very expensive in Ghana and i don't think the guy is capping.

popizaino:



I don't understand do you or workers in Ghana earn the same as Kenyans ? are the incomes of workers in Ghana the same with that of Kenyans with the same skills cus i don't understand this your it's more expensive in Kenya.

If your price to income ratio is high then your argument is a non-starter. Give up

First of.. Ghanaians earn far higher than Kenyans...

Secondly, we are picking retail prices of basic commodities of a bread basket.

So if I earn huger than you and I'm still buying things practically at lower prices than you, what will you call that?

popizaino:


Yea the irony........i remembered one of them specifically told me on the other thread that i was poor for complaining about how expensive Ghana was only for Hollywood actor to share in my frustration.

His complain is out of place... Why won't Hard wood furniture be more expensive than the Ikea nonsense he's used to?

GeneralDae:

Over twice the cost in U.S?? Is this true or this guy is just capping? cos no matter how expensive Ghana is, that doesn't look likely.

There are several YouTube videos videos of people choosing not to ship furniture from the US an UK and co because there are better furnitures here at better quality and price.
People are getting custom furniture here with their own wood of choosing and each wood and fabric come with it own price

Just40:
First of.. Ghanaians earn far higher than Kenyans...

Secondly, we are picking retail prices of basic commodities of a bread basket.

So if I earn huger than you and I'm still buying things practically at lower prices than you, what will you call that?

The price to income ratio of both countries does not agree with you.

popizaino:



The price to income ratio of both countries does not agree with you.

The prices at the shelf says otherwise and the incomes also say otherwise.. That price income ratio is mostly related to real estate where Accra real estate turn to be some of the most expensive you'll find in the world.. if you compare.

I was at Sucasa at East Legon, 2 weeks ago and was shocked that people are paying cash 70,000 dollars 200,000 dollars for off plan properties and waiting 4 months to have their property built according to their liking...
And already their phase 1 and 2 are sold out while their phase 3 at East Legon hills and Ayi Mensah are in development.

You're truly incorrigble.
You're mixing income and property prizes.
How much does your primary teacher earn compared to Kenya - then you can compare the cost of living.
What is minimum wage for example.
All that has been done - dont go to Jumia - and the chart has been pasted there - Ghana when price/income is compared is next to war torn Syria.
When it come to proprety - Accra is CRAP.
What is 70-200K surely surely.
In Nairobi that is crap. I am paying for two units at two rivers mall - for 200K - the date of completion is 2023 dec - and it's serious steal - these are affordable units - and I know UN in Nairobi is due for huge expansion.
Otherwise Nairobi properties are very very expensive.
When it come to property values - YOU DO NOT FEATURE AT ALL.
Nairobi, Joburg, Capetown, London, etc.
When it come to being expensive - you FEATURE with Bangui, Juba, Bujumbura and Luanda.
But nobody want to own a piece of crap in Juba.

So understand the paradox - being expensive to live - doesnt mean the real estate is expensive - it normally means real estate is so absent or inadequate even renting a tent would cost an arm.

It normally the opposite. The most expensive cities to live in are normally war-torn messed cities like Bangui/Accra/Juba/Luandaetc

The most expensive real estates - > Example Knight Frank Real Estate Prime Propety

Overall, Nairobi ranked position 29, two positions ahead of London and one position behind Geneva.

Just40:
The prices at the shelf says otherwise and the incomes also say otherwise.. That price income ratio is mostly related to real estate where Accra real estate turn to be some of the most expensive you'll find in the world.. if you compare.

I was at Sucasa at East Legon, 2 weeks ago and was shocked that people are paying cash 70,000 dollars 200,000 dollars for off plan properties and waiting 4 months to have their property built according to their liking...
And already their phase 1 and 2 are sold out while their phase 3 at East Legon hills and Ayi Mensah are in development.

Ghana Increases Minimum Wage for 2021
Sep 1, 2021 — Effective June 4, 2021, Ghana increased its daily minimum wage to 12.53 cedis (U.S. $2.07), the National Tripartite Committee announced in a ...

See you minimum daily wage is half or even 1/3 of kenya.

2 (now less than a dollar) dollars is 220kshs. That in a month will give you 200Ks times 25 which Kshs 5,000. Not even live in house maid in Kenya earn that much. That is Uganda level where maid earn 2,000ksh.

Kenya minimum wage last I checked was approaching Kshs 14,000. That is 3 times Ghana. You cannot hire someone for less than that.

Yes kenya minimum wage is 3 times Ghana. With inflation 5 or 6 times
https://www.dw.com/en/what-kenyas-minimum-wage-rise-means/a-61745999
For example, under the new wage hike, domestic workers living in one of Kenya's three biggest cities of Nairobi, Mombasa or Kisumu should now be paid a minimum of 15,201 Kenyan shillings ($131 or €124). That's an increase of some $14 a month.

Generally, people dont complain about one off cost. I still sit on sofa sets I bought in 2005. I have done two minor repairs. People when they complain about cost of living - it the daily stuff. Major purchases are okay and depend on taste. How many furnitures are you going to have in your lifetime. I still sleep in same bed I slept in 2004. The same dinning table I bought in 2008. Heck in my father house - we still sleep in the same metal bed I found when I was born 40yrs ago - that bed I think was bought in 1978. Nobody complain about such - it mostly taste - its the daily stuff.

Just40:
There are several YouTube videos videos of people choosing not to ship furniture from the US an UK and co because there are better furnitures here at better quality and price.
People are getting custom furniture here with their own wood of choosing and each wood and fabric come with it own price

Nairobi has like endless world class properties people are willing to pay a million dollar for land alone ; that is called the most expensive real estate; Bangui take the prize with Ghana for renting out a shackle or tent for 100 dollars a night together with bedbugs and mosquito - that most expensive city to live in.

You cant find such in Accra or west africa - and that is like half of Nairobi - world class properties from city end to city end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XzUa7ME4OE

obaaderemi:
Fake data. Should I post pictures of your starving horde again. It will take pages upon pages.

The pictures of starving folks you are about to post are the 35% poor Kenyans. Posting their pictures here won't stop the fact that 79% Nigerians are languishing in extreme poverty.

Wuoche:


The pictures of starving folks you are about to post are the 35% poor Kenyans. Posting their pictures here won't stop the fact that 79% Nigerians are languishing in extreme poverty.

Can you post any link to back your claim that 79% of Nigerians live in extreme poverty, mad man? Drunk again on changa.

Just40:
First of.. Ghanaians earn far higher than Kenyans...

Secondly, we are picking retail prices of basic commodities of a bread basket.

So if I earn huger than you and I'm still buying things practically at lower prices than you, what will you call that?

it is even abnormal to used minimum wage has standard here . Ghana Labour market is highly influence by informal sector . More than 70 percent Ghanaian are in informal sector , more than kenya . Using apple against orange is what I don't get here. Very obtuse . It is just like Nigeria having a larger informal sector and yet with a lower wages .

The india wannabe wonder why you see Murano and wrangler here despite we earn just a dollar per day using 12 cedis as a standard of daily wages. Using GDP per capital has a standard . In 2017 Ghana has a minimum of 4700 why kenya has 3700. In simple terms , the economic rules simply illustrates that it is easy to make money in Ghana than kenya hence the poverty ratio of kenya being higher than Ghana

A barber in Ghana is absolutely doing well
than her counterpart in kenya factoring factoring GDP per capital

Just40:
First of.. Ghanaians earn far higher than Kenyans...

Secondly, we are picking retail prices of basic commodities of a bread basket.

So if I earn huger than you and I'm still buying things practically at lower prices than you, what will you call that?

look at this guy's way of reasoning.
And this mindset is practically the situation in his country and they reason the don't want Nigerians.
What happen to getting value for money?
What happen things prized according to what they're actually worth?
Do you say because you saw 100 cedis in my hand and you want to sell a sachet of pure water worth 0.50 cedis for 100 cedis to me.
This guy talking nonsense here,majority of his people are poor and hungry.
Majority of them earn 450 cedis a which is less than 25 dollars.
Daily Minimum wage is around 13 cedis and he's talking nonsense

rvp2018:
Ghana Increases Minimum Wage for 2021
Sep 1, 2021 — Effective June 4, 2021, Ghana increased its daily minimum wage to 12.53 cedis (U.S. $2.07), the National Tripartite Committee announced in a ...

See you minimum daily wage is half or even 1/3 of kenya.

2 (now less than a dollar) dollars is 220kshs. That in a month will give you 200Ks times 25 which Kshs 5,000. Not even live in house maid in Kenya earn that much. That is Uganda level where maid earn 2,000ksh.

Kenya minimum wage last I checked was approaching Kshs 14,000. That is 3 times Ghana. You cannot hire someone for less than that.

that 12 cedis is less than a dollar today.
Your average Ghanaian is earning less than a dollar a day

popizaino:


Yea the irony........i remembered one of them specifically told me on the other thread that i was poor for complaining about how expensive Ghana was only for Hollywood actor to share in my frustration.

poor like the whole of ghana is littered with rich people.
The same Accra that has over 256 slums in it?
Where are the rich

vaxx:
it is even abnormal to used minimum wage has standard here . Ghana Labour market is highly influence by informal sector . More than 70 percent Ghanaian are in informal sector , more than kenya . Using apple against orange is what I don't get here. Very obtuse . It is just like Nigeria having a larger informal sector and yet with a lower wages .

The india wannabe wonder why you see Murano and wrangler here despite we earn just a dollar per day using 12 cedis as a standard of daily wages. Using GDP per capital has a standard . In 2017 Ghana has a minimum of 4700 why kenya has 3700. In simple terms , the economic rules simply illustrates that it is easy to make money in Ghana than kenya hence the poverty ratio of kenya being higher than Ghana

A barber in Ghana is absolutely doing well
than her counterpart in kenya factoring factoring GDP per capital

How much of that GDP is minerals... like Gabon and Eq Guinea.Your people earn less than a dollar a day...that crazy..in Kenya nobody will work for less than 4-5 dollars a day

popizaino:



How come other west African countries find Ghanaians goods astronomically high in spite of the bolded ?

that guy is the most idiotic thing I've ever come across..
Imagine a country that spent 6.4 million dollars importing fresh garlic from China.
Fresh garlic!!!!

Reason why Ghana hasn't officially requested for IMF program
Ghana is assessing all the options available to her.

Ghana has 3 options (Ghana is in the Turkey situation)

1. Either Ghana capitulate to western banking interest(sabotage) in favour of mining interest and their nonsense ESQ policy advise which Ghana has refused to follow for 6 years now that has led to a downgrade of Ghana credit rating.

2. Ghana create it own debt market after building it reserve banking and carry through with the African own credit rating agencies that Ghana started recommending for from the beginning of this year.

3. Join BRICS

rvp2018:
You're truly incorrigble.
You're mixing income and property prizes.
How much does your primary teacher earn compared to Kenya - then you can compare the cost of living.
What is minimum wage for example.
All that has been done - dont go to Jumia - and the chart has been pasted there - Ghana when price/income is compared is next to war torn Syria.
When it come to proprety - Accra is CRAP.
What is 70-200K surely surely.
In Nairobi that is crap. I am paying for two units at two rivers mall - for 200K - the date of completion is 2023 dec - and it's serious steal - these are affordable units - and I know UN in Nairobi is due for huge expansion.
Otherwise Nairobi properties are very very expensive.
When it come to property values - YOU DO NOT FEATURE AT ALL.
Nairobi, Joburg, Capetown, London, etc.
When it come to being expensive - you FEATURE with Bangui, Juba, Bujumbura and Luanda.
But nobody want to own a piece of crap in Juba.

So understand the paradox - being expensive to live - doesnt mean the real estate is expensive - it normally means real estate is so absent or inadequate even renting a tent would cost an arm.

It normally the opposite. The most expensive cities to live in are normally war-torn messed cities like Bangui/Accra/Juba/Luandaetc

The most expensive real estates - > Example Knight Frank Real Estate Prime Propety

Overall, Nairobi ranked position 29, two positions ahead of London and one position behind Geneva.

You just like to post nonsense

Meanwhile Ghana has more housing under construction than all of Kenya and also have more housing than Kenya.

Ghana real estate is expensive in comparison to what you'll get in most part of the US when price comparison is done per Normal 3 and 4 bedroom houses that will cost 250,000-300,000 USD is mostly costing 450,000 to 700,000usd in Ghana.

The argument real estate owners make here is that housing in the US is mostly wood base so that comparison is neither here nor there when we build with concrete in Ghana.

rvp2018:
Yes kenya minimum wage is 3 times Ghana. With inflation 5 or 6 times
https://www.dw.com/en/what-kenyas-minimum-wage-rise-means/a-61745999
For example, under the new wage hike, domestic workers living in one of Kenya's three biggest cities of Nairobi, Mombasa or Kisumu should now be paid a minimum of 15,201 Kenyan shillings ($131 or €124). That's an increase of some $14 a month.

A domestic worker in Ghana is paid 6.1 dollars per day .. That's 158 dollars per month on a 26days work period. this is median salary... The range is 140 to 200 dollars

With the inflation in Kenya where most things cost trice as much as in Ghana... The Ghanaian domestic worker is earning twice as much

http://www.salaryexplorer.com/salary-survey.php?loc=82&loctype=1&job=16&jobtype=1

rvp2018:
Generally, people dont complain about one off cost. I still sit on sofa sets I bought in 2005. I have done two minor repairs. People when they complain about cost of living - it the daily stuff. Major purchases are okay and depend on taste. How many furnitures are you going to have in your lifetime. I still sleep in same bed I slept in 2004. The same dinning table I bought in 2008. Heck in my father house - we still sleep in the same metal bed I found when I was born 40yrs ago - that bed I think was bought in 1978. Nobody complain about such - it mostly taste - its the daily stuff.

you've not made a point

rvp2018:
Nairobi has like endless world class properties people are willing to pay a million dollar for land alone ; that is called the most expensive real estate; Bangui take the prize with Ghana for renting out a shackle or tent for 100 dollars a night together with bedbugs and mosquito - that most expensive city to live in.

You cant find such in Accra or west africa - and that is like half of Nairobi - world class properties from city end to city end.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XzUa7ME4OE

this is a shack compare to what you'll find in Accra..

You can consult African traveller, and the various Nigerians here for why they all think Accra has beautiful varieties that can't be found in Kenya.

Accra real estate market is more luxurious than Nairobi

Don't take my words for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUBZ4Opv4VQ

vaxx:
it is even abnormal to used minimum wage has standard here . Ghana Labour market is highly influence by informal sector . More than 70 percent Ghanaian are in informal sector , more than kenya . Using apple against orange is what I don't get here. Very obtuse . It is just like Nigeria having a larger informal sector and yet with a lower wages .

The india wannabe wonder why you see Murano and wrangler here despite we earn just a dollar per day using 12 cedis as a standard of daily wages. Using GDP per capital has a standard . In 2017 Ghana has a minimum of 4700 why kenya has 3700. In simple terms , the economic rules simply illustrates that it is easy to make money in Ghana than kenya hence the poverty ratio of kenya being higher than Ghana

A barber in Ghana is absolutely doing well
than her counterpart in kenya factoring factoring GDP per capital

that's what Kenyans don't understand

This kind of thinking is what has led Ghana to where it is.
You should have thought about this before raking in billions of external commercial debts.
Nobody is begging you to join IMF. Your economy is in ICU and any further delay means total collapse.
Domestic market - when you want to restructure local debt - who in Ghana will trust Ghana gov with their money?
Join BRICS - Russia is in trouble, south africa is broke, brazil a mess - only China is still standing.

The options you have
1) Cut the budget completely by half or more - eliminate deficit - stop borrowing completely - fire civil servants - downsize - stop all development. Balance the budget asap. Also stop importing lot of unnecessary stuff. Then start repaying debt - negotiate with external debtors - and after 5yrs - you should be good to go.
2) IMF to recommend a milder version of the same while assisting on humaniterian grounds.

Just40:
Reason why Ghana hasn't officially requested for IMF program
Ghana is assessing all the options available to her.

Ghana has 3 options (Ghana is in the Turkey situation)

1. Either Ghana capitulate to western banking interest(sabotage) in favour of mining interest and their nonsense ESQ policy advise which Ghana has refused to follow for 6 years now that has led to a downgrade of Ghana credit rating.

2. Ghana create it own debt market after building it reserve banking and carry through with the African own credit rating agencies that Ghana started recommending for from the beginning of this year.

3. Join BRICS

POKUASI2:
look at this guy's way of reasoning.
And this mindset is practically the situation in his country and they reason the don't want Nigerians.
What happen to getting value for money?
What happen things prized according to what they're actually worth?
Do you say because you saw 100 cedis in my hand and you want to sell a sachet of pure water worth 0.50 cedis for 100 cedis to me.
This guy talking nonsense here,majority of his people are poor and hungry.
Majority of them earn 450 cedis a which is less than 25 dollars.
Daily Minimum wage is around 13 cedis and he's talking nonsense

I will like to understand how you drew these take out of the comment you replied to.

Help me understand

I have a simple question, do you read the things you reply to?

POKUASI2:
poor like the whole of ghana is littered with rich people.
The same Accra that has over 256 slums in it?
Where are the rich

name 10