rvp2018:
Nigeria cannot become anything when only thing you got is Dangote.
In kenya we have thousands of companies expanding in every sector including Manufacturing.
Tower Aluminium was started in kenya and run west africa roofing.

Provide me any industry in any country in Africa, and I'll give you Nigerian investors for that industry. Nigerians work in the ICT sector in the majority of African countries, and Nigerian banks are found everywhere in Africa (4Nigerians banks are making profits in your country Kenya).
In most African nations, Nigerian businesses are the biggest investors in the oil industries.
Would you like me to bring up Nigerians startups, agriculture, or insurance?
1- In oil and Gas sector( Southern African) : ZCCM IH has signed an agreement with a Nigerian petroleum firm to explore for oil on two exploration blocks in Zambia.
2. in Banking sector , Angola (Southern Africa ) : Access Bank Plc has entered into a binding agreement with Montepio Holding SGPS S.A to acquire a 51 per cent majority shareholding in Finibanco Angola S.A, one the largest bank in Angola and one of Portugal’s well-established commercial banks

3. financial technology and payment card: Interswitch Group: (All East African NATIONS ) Nigeria platform who is rivaling Mastercard , the Nigerian payment card brand owned by Interswitch Group, Verve, has expanded its reach in Uganda , with a partnership with KCB Bank Uganda Limited.
4.

Wuoche:


The pictures of starving folks you are about to post are the 35% poor Kenyans. Posting their pictures here won't stop the fact that 79% Nigerians are languishing in extreme poverty.

This is the ceiling point of his thinking capacity. He can't discern basic knowledge like that. He can post 5 starving people( from the drought-infested region) and then draws that Kenya's poverty rate is high.

68816419:
The 11th built flyover in PH to commissioned today(11/16/2022) : This state now boasts more flyovers than the entirety of Kenya, more than any other metropolis in Africa.

watch Live commissioning of this project now, by the best governor in Africa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_COL_791SGk

We been through this. It's Banks, Dangote, Globalcom & Fintech.
End of Nigeria expansion story. You dont even have companies dominating west africa.
Kenya it's almost every industry and by thousands of companies in almost 10 countries - Zambia/Mozambique,DRC, Burundi, Rwanda, Uganda, Tanzania, South Sudan, Ethiopia and Somalia. - then a few have expanded beyond that region.

68816419:

Provide me any industry in any country in Africa, and I'll give you Nigerian investors for that industry. Nigerians work in the ICT sector in the majority of African countries, and Nigerian banks are found everywhere in Africa (4Nigerians banks are making profits in your country Kenya).
In most African nations, Nigerian businesses are the biggest investors in the oil industries.
Would you like me to bring up Nigerians startups, agriculture, or insurance?

POKUASI2:

kwashieman
Ashiaman
Darkuman
Bubiashi
60 percent of Achimota
70 percent of Adabraka
Mallam.
Pukuasi town
Teshie
80 percent of labadi
40 percent of spintex
Odorko
Kaneshie (aside North Kaneshie)
70 percent of OSU
Fadama
Agbogbloshi
60 percent of tetegu
50 percent of kasoa
The entire kokrobire enclave

let's see what you've mentioned If they are slums

This is Kwashieman.. which part of it is a slum to you? It road are well demarcated, with electricity, water and drainages.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Chd4vtNrgTw

Yes Ashiaman is a slum.. it is one of the few slums in Accra

This is the Kaneshie, Bubuashie, Darkuman area... Can you show where is slummy.? The place might be old as old as the 1900s with one of the oldest market complex in Africa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ue1JQt4QeQ0

Achimota... How is it a slum?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgX5H7RmKFc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHw9VaNdTKM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gORzeRUTElk

Adabraka.. find us the slum... One of the oldest places in Accra with properties there dating back to 1800s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruNWf8FevUM

Mallam... The tiny slum under the hill of less than a 100 people is inconsequential to the larger community.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cAkiKx9rMg

Pokuasi... Does this place look like a slum to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqHORrEihy4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEv6IG0LnOs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYlgOBv8vhI

20% of Teshie is a slum... Mostly the beach side.. the rest is a developed Ga township.

Labadi.. not a slum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvEn9b92vCw

Odorkor, Mamprobi, Banana Inn... Accra urban poor areas still well developed... Is that a slum to you?

Osu.. madness is doing you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxhB2kOD3qI

Nima-Fadama is a slum.. which is one of the 4 slums in Accra

Agbobloshie is a demolished market... Not a settlement

Tetegu... Does this look like a slum to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgxCOtvOFBw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2EGmKAqEXg


Kasoa is not Accra and Only 10% of Kasoa is a slum.. mostly around the old market which is around the interchange...

Kokrobite .. from the hill to the beach.. a fellow Nigerian video of the area


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypvftFLj-xI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePKAr_5YkXM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDG17iQstpA

POKUASI2:
exactly. Including cooking utensils.
Matress ETC..
The buy used underwear for men and women

the underwear you wear, is it used?

90% of cooking utensils used in Ghana are made here .. Go to UTC and see..

Are AshFoam and Latex Foams imported?

rvp2018:
So why is Ghana gov borrowing on behalf of utility companies?
Why cant they not borrow money themselves?
Is the Ghana the gurantor? or what is the issue here.

As far as I know Ghana treasury took the money and used the money - and must repay the money

in Our 3 years power crisis era.. we needed to inject huge capital to acquire new generating capacities and ensure our fuel security.... An investment size that only the govt can marshall quickly. So the govt the govt borrowed 13 billion dollars and put those loans on the book of all the new power ventures that it created .... 5 years down the line and almost all of them have finished paying back those monies and we have solved our electricity issues. Now all those assets are debt free and under collective management.

So the Govt was just a guarantor of the debt...

So as you can see... We don't spend borrowed monies on loss making ventures.

Learn and stop wasting Kenya expensive borrowed monies on loss making ventures and Kenya won't find herself in the debt crisis it is in

rvp2018:
Yes I watched a video of kenya girl - and she talks about the smell - when she landed in Accra. Ghana's Accra has been voted many times the dirtiest city in Africa. That takes some hardwork in being dirty. Now I can only imagine the rest if Accra is the best.

The problem is total lack of modern sewage system apart from old central Accra CBD

Then dumping of overflowing cesspits and soakpits by trucks on the oceans - and then flooding come - and dump everything everywhere.

we can ask African traveller to see why he was strucked by how clean Accra was which made him draw comparison to how dirty Nairobi is ..
Or we can just look at Dr Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala holding her nose in Nairobi and ask her why.

You won't have that in Accra... Neither will you have that in Takoradi or Sekondi unless you're at the fish preservation area.

Or you think the nonsense in Nairobi where all your drains are open and over flowing with spilled sewage is the same thing that happen here.? No wonder yearly cholera is maiming more Kenyans.

POKUASI2:
bro I'm talking raw human waste in black rubber in front of kaneshie market ran over my cars.
This same kaneshie is one of the city centers
Secondi harbor, the entire community poo on the stones used as sea defense wall.
I mean the entire community!!

why do you like to lie this bad?
So who are you badly trying to impress?

Sekondi Takoradi where you can't even drop a Plastic bag on the street or gutter with being asked to pick it, you want to go and shit on their sea defense wall for the Navy to manhandle you?

Be smart in you lying a bit

rvp2018:
We been through this. It's Banks, Dangote, Globalcom & Fintech.
End of Nigeria expansion story. You dont even have companies dominating west africa.
Kenya it's almost every industry and by thousands of companies in almost 10 countries - Zambia/Mozambique,DRC, Burundi, Rwanda, Uganda, Tanzania, South Sudan, Ethiopia and Somalia. - then a few have expanded beyond that region.

Banks, Dangote, Globacom, fintech, oil and gas. Is that not enough? But we will add more. Paga is already in Ethiopia, Interswitch is in East Africa, Sahara energy is trying to break into the east Africa market.

We may find west Africa a bit hard to dominate because west Africa is more competitive than East Africa. Look at the countries you mentioned and compare them to west African countries. Ghana is ahead of both Kenya and Tanzania', Togo is ahead of Rwanda, Benin is better than Uganda, south Sudan and Somalia. Cotedivoire is better than Ethiopia.

Just40:
Yet Kenyans are the one flooding Ghana for greener pastures because they see Accra as their New York and Ghana as their England for education.

86.6% of Kenyans are if we use the new world bank data on what it takes to be considered a middle class person which is based on a spending of 5.65 dollars a day.

To be above middle class, you have to have a spending of 10 dollars and at this rate, 95% of Kenyans are poor.

You can check same for Ghana and you'll see why your economy hasn't transformed lives..

At those same rates Ghana has 50% of her population in middle class and at upper class, Ghana has 22% of her population.

It is bad for Kenya to only have 13% of her population in the middle class..

Consult the data here
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/poverty-rate-by-country

I didn't see this bunch of gibberish!

If I've to be honest with you, I will frankly tell you that no Kenyan is inspired by Ghana. Conduct your own in-house survey -- hit youtube and all social platforms. You'll never see any Kenyan wishing to visit - talk less of living, in ghana. Ghanaians are flooding Kenya already - we can see the number of short guys on the rise, that's an evident-based fact.

Heck --- on the living standards, you've spewed arrant nonsense!. WB has outdated data. But even so, the same WB says only 10% of Kenyans live at poverty( lower middle-income class) those surviving at $2.15 per day - and that was in 2019. In 2000 - Kenya was doing 37% --- the figure has been on a downward trajectory since 1999! Meaning, perhaps we have less than 8% this year - Ghana is doing 26.8% (those spending $2.15 a day).
Unemployment rate in ghana is 13% Kenya is doing 9%... That should also give you some insight into what you're talking about.
10 dollar is just a paltry ksh1200 -- meaning, ksh36,000 expenditures per month( 300 USD) --- Ghana with 46% middle income class, a whopping 26.8% are lower middle earners: Kenya is 10% from a total of 43% middle income earner. So, if we have to go with $10 per day, in Ghana; Then we will have more or less 3% of upper middle class. Cos the yardstick for your 46% - 13M were based on $66 to $165 expenditure per month($2.2 to $5.5 per day) --- both low and upper middle income respectively.

Coming back to the upper middle income; those who spend above $1666 (around ksh200,000 a month) --- $55 a day!! Are already past the threshold of 10% of the total Kenyan population --- meaning, your submission_ on " 95% spenders of $10 a day" is a fallacy rooted in ignorance.

So forget about WB if you can't read and decompound its data.

Shma2022:

I didn't see this bunch of gibberish!

If I've to be honest with you, I will frankly tell you that no Kenyan is inspired by Ghana. Conduct your own in-house survey -- hit youtube and all social platforms. You'll never see any Kenyan wishing to visit - talk less of living, in ghana. Ghanaians are flooding Kenya already - we can see the number of short guys on the rise, that's an evident-based fact.

Heck --- on the living standards, you've spewed arrant nonsense!. WB has outdated data. But even so, the same WB says only 10% of Kenyans live at poverty( lower middle-income class) those surviving at $2.15 per day - and that was in 2019. In 2000 - Kenya was doing 37% --- the figure has been on a downward trajectory since 1999! Meaning, perhaps we have less than 8% this year - Ghana is doing 26.8% (those spending $2.15 a day).
Unemployment rate in ghana is 13% Kenya is doing 9%... That should also give you some insight into what you're talking about.
10 dollar is just a paltry ksh1200 -- meaning, ksh36,000 expenditures per month( 300 USD) --- Ghana with 46% middle income class, a whopping 26.8% are lower middle earners: Kenya is 10% from a total of 43% middle income earner. So, if we have to go with $10 per day, in Ghana; Then we will have more or less 3% of upper middle class. Cos the yardstick for your 46% - 13M were based on $66 to $165 expenditure per month($2.2 to $5.5 per day) --- both low and upper middle income respectively.

Coming back to the upper middle income; those who spend above $1666 (around ksh200,000 a month) --- $55 a day!! Are already past the threshold of 10% of the total Kenyan population --- meaning, your submission_ on " 95% spenders of $10 a day" is a fallacy rooted in ignorance.

So forget about WB if you can't read and decompound its data.

The data is right Infront of you yet you're still misquoting it and trying to massage the figures?
Well I'm not surprised especially for someone from a country with 86% poverty at 5.50 dollars



What is wrong with you Kenyans and fraud ?

Facts are just facts kiddo

I'm sure you're having a brain freeze

Just40:
The data is right Infront of you yet you're still misquoting it and trying to massage the figures?
Well I'm not surprised especially for someone from a country with 86% poverty at 5.50 dollars



What is wrong with you Kenyans and fraud ?

Facts are just facts kiddo

I'm sure you're having a brain freeze

Try to think.

Let's tackle tax revenue and real estate value. It will give us more insight.

If you don't understand --- I will let you wallow in the miasma of ignorance and stupidity.

Just40:
The data is right Infront of you yet you're still misquoting it and trying to massage the figures?
Well I'm not surprised especially for someone from a country with 86% poverty at 5.50 dollars



What is wrong with you Kenyans and fraud ?

Facts are just facts kiddo

I'm sure you're having a brain freeze

Why so much noise? You have failed to impress Kenyans with your lies. Take a hint and go bamboozle Nigerians elsewhere.

Just40:
The data is right Infront of you yet you're still misquoting it and trying to massage the figures?
Well I'm not surprised especially for someone from a country with 86% poverty at 5.50 dollars



What is wrong with you Kenyans and fraud ?

Facts are just facts kiddo

I'm sure you're having a brain freeze

Brain? What brain? His brain has fallen into the space between the two fat black cheeks of his buttocks.

Shma2022:


Try to think.

Let's tackle tax revenue and real estate value. It will give us more insight.

If you don't understand --- I will let you wallow in the miasma of ignorance and stupidity.

Now you have taught about it and running away to a different conversation

Now you want to expose yourself in real estate too for me to make you know how small you are again?

obaaderemi:
Brain? What brain? His brain has fallen into the space between the two fat black cheeks of his buttocks.

Brain freeze.. usually cats and things have it and when humans have it, it can be a lot painful

obaaderemi:
Brain? What brain? His brain has fallen into the space between the two fat black cheeks of his buttocks.

Try lethal vocabularies like gluteus Maximus or rear ends. What is "buttocks"? -- that is a village - stone age punchline.

Just40:
Now you have taught about it and running away to a different conversation

Now you want to expose yourself in real estate too for me to make you know how small you are again?

1 + 1 is two. We need to check the nitty gritties of what makes middle income. Just by scrutinizing the aforementioned stats--- we will know the status quo of your living standards.

Shma2022:

Try lethal vocabularies like gluteus Maximus or rear ends. What is "buttocks"? -- that is a village - stone age punchline.

dumb child .. if you had done sports in school when you were growing up, you would have known that gluteus maximus is just a muscle of the hip

Who really educated these illiterates?

obaaderemi:
Brain? What brain? His brain has fallen into the space between the two fat black cheeks of his buttocks.

Your cognitive plateau has been exceeded for the day. Just log off before you embarrass your progeny further.

Just40:
dumb child .. if you had done sports in school when you were growing up, you would have known that gluteus maximus is just a muscle of the hip

Who really educated these illiterates?

What is buttocks? Fats of your @nus? Or muscles of your hips?

Shma2022:


1 + 1 is two. We need to check the nitty gritties of what makes middle income. Just by scrutinizing the aforementioned stats--- we will know the status quo of your living standards.

You can try developing your country in an urban way so you can finally have a large middle class instead of the 86% poor people

Shma2022:


What is buttocks? Fats of your @nus? Or muscles of your hips?

A grown man asking me to educate him on what a buttocks is...

It is a fat part of your body overlaying 4 muscles

Then why are the books still reflecting Ghana owes all that billion if you've run profitable venture.
I think you're ignorant.

Kenya SOES - whatever sector - borrow money of their own - KQ borrowed close to a billion dollar to buy planes
Kengen - borrows from Japan - to build dams.
SOES borrow from US or China or France or Italy or UK or wherever
And unless it such a big sum - it's really their money - and their security - if they fail to pay - Japanese bank will come and take their asset.

Now on very few instance we have public gurantees - where Treasury accept to be gurantor of SOE - like KQ 700M dollars to buy jets.
This year KQ was unable to pay - Treasury will take care of them.

If you check our external debt register - you'll see KQ loan - under public gurantee - but anything else they borrowed that is their problem. They are almost 400 SOES/Parastals doing their own things.

Gov of kenya borrows to do what Gov should do - build roads, provide free school, healthcare - not invest.

Investment is separate arm of gov - and gov is just a shareholder - either alone or most of the time with others.

Just40:
in Our 3 years power crisis era.. we needed to inject huge capital to acquire new generating capacities and ensure our fuel security.... An investment size that only the govt can marshall quickly. So the govt the govt borrowed 13 billion dollars and put those loans on the book of all the new power ventures that it created .... 5 years down the line and almost all of them have finished paying back those monies and we have solved our electricity issues. Now all those assets are debt free and under collective management.

So the Govt was just a guarantor of the debt...

So as you can see... We don't spend borrowed monies on loss making ventures.

Learn and stop wasting Kenya expensive borrowed monies on loss making ventures and Kenya won't find herself in the debt crisis it is in

Just40:
A grown man asking me to educate him on what a buttocks are...

It is a fat part of your body overlaying 4 muscles

You're just yapping on things you know nothing about. Next time, tell that buffoon to use descent lethal punchlines insted of embarrassing himself with stone age insults like "buttocks"

gluteus
/ˈɡluːtɪəs/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: gluteus maximus
any of three muscles in each buttock which move the thigh, the largest of which is the gluteus maximus.





You too should learn.

Just40:
A grown man asking me to educate him on what a buttocks are...

It is a fat part of your body overlaying 4 muscles

You're just yapping on things you know nothing about. Next time, tell that buffoon to use descent lethal punchlines instead of embarrassing himself with "buttocks"

^{gluteus
/ˈɡluːtɪəs/
Learn to pronounce
noun
noun: gluteus maximus
any of three muscles in each buttock which move the thigh, the largest of which is the gluteus maximus.}

rvp2018:
Then why are the books still reflecting Ghana owes all that billion if you've run profitable venture.
I think you're ignorant.

Kenya SOES - whatever sector - borrow money of their own - KQ borrowed close to a billion dollar to buy planes
Kengen - borrows from Japan - to build dams.
SOES borrow from US or China or France or Italy or UK or wherever
And unless it such a big sum - it's really their money - and their security - if they fail to pay - Japanese bank will come and take their asset.

Now on very few instance we have public gurantees - where Treasury accept to be gurantor of SOE - like KQ 700M dollars to buy jets.
This year KQ was unable to pay - KQ will take care of them.

Gov of kenya borrows to do what Gov should do - build roads, provide free school, healthcare - not invest.

Investment is separate arm of gov - and gov is just a shareholder - either alone or most of the time with others.

you want to compare 700 dollars to 13 billion dollars?

The books are still showing debt because we're still borrowing to invest in more fuel securities for our economy and laying pipelines to various places expanding our economy.

Europe does not want to invest in fossil fuels and recommending Africa keep it fossil fuel in the ground but it is busy roaming around Africa looking for gas so it doesn't freeze ... Why don't they turn on their solar and wind power on to provide electric heaters enough power for heating?

So my govt have to step in to provide investment for our gas sector.

Banking & Fintech you're doing okay - but even simple things like Insurance you're nowhere.
Our banks are everywhere. Our insurance companies the same. Fintech the same.

Kenya in whatver sector - we have huge depth of expansions - because our companies have REGIONAL EXPANSION as their number one strategy.
When you do GDPS of these countries - remember kenya companies are one doing most of ttheir "private sector".

West Africa is not competitive - It's that Nigeria has left the French to dominate - and has not developed their private sector capacity. Thank goodness for bank reforms that collapse your banks to 18 - and Dangote - otherwise you're DEAD.

Example: Kenya Re-Insurance - this majority owned by Kenya gov - they did IPO for 40 percent few years go.

It has operation I think even in Nigeria.

Kenya Re is the oldest reinsurer in Eastern and Central Africa and serves over 265 insurances companies in 62 countries across Africa, the Middle East and Asia with over 50 percent of its revenue being generated from foreign markets.[2]

obaaderemi:
Banks, Dangote, Globacom, fintech, oil and gas. Is that not enough? But we will add more. Paga is already in Ethiopia, Interswitch is in East Africa, Sahara energy is trying to break into the east Africa market.

We may find west Africa a bit hard to dominate because west Africa is more competitive than East Africa. Look at the countries you mentioned and compare them to west African countries. Ghana is ahead of both Kenya and Tanzania', Togo is ahead of Rwanda, Benin is better than Uganda, south Sudan and Somalia. Cotedivoire is better than Ethiopia.