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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 4:53pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:Yet there's none notable ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 5:25pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Why do you think Nigeria farmers cannot compete with Asian and other farmers in farming of all things? GeneralDae: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 5:29pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:Who says they can't compete? |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 5:30pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Then allow competition because the loser is million of Nigeria consumers; and winner if any are few farmers; GeneralDae: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 5:39pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:I am yet to find a nation that allowed competition when it was growing it own industries, from other countries that highly subsides those same industries |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 5:51pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:You are confused about something here. You don't allow competition when you haven't even started the game properly. Buhari only closed the border after a few years of supporting rice farming in Nigeria because the populace would not magically begin to buy Nigerian rice due to the fact we weren't top of our game then as well as a mental slavery of many of our people (false disdain of anything local). Also, and most problematic, we have too many traders who love the importation business so much. We also have Benin republic whose economy at the the time depended so much on this Nigerian huge appetite for rice as well as imports from Thailand. When rice farming began to grow locally, Benin Republic was a big problem to us, and the borders had to be closed at that time to regulate the import of rice (not completely ban imports). Now many more rice mills have risen in Nigeria since that time and there are many projects which began but were slowed down due to COVID-19. If we are importing 90% of our rice like we used to do before and there was no policy regulation to help investors and local farmers, those investors may not have been motivated enough to build today. If we didn't kill the habit that made us over-rely on Thailand for rice in 2014, by now we would be licking our wounds because Thailand and India ( world biggest exporters) may restrict rice exports next year making it much more expensive. Not everything must go according to the textbooks. 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 5:55pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Generally speaking protection of infant industries should be time limited; otherwise Nigeria blanket timeless protection of infant industries aka import substitution is failed policy that breeds poverty. Now imagine with Nigeria being part of say Ecowas and soon AFCTA - how will they protect their rice farmers from cheaper African rice?Perhaps they can ask for exemption - but for few years - so already this is not sustainable - unless you engage in Buhari type blockade of all trade. And if you must protect local industry (only for x yrs as local industry build competitiveness) - it surely has to be something complicated - not rice or maize - that you can raise productivity easily. Just40: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 6:02pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
My problem is that Nigeria protectionism is a repeat of the failed import substitution policies that Africa did in 60s/70s/80s. The only difference as far as I can see now is that private sector or Dangotes are one getting protected - previously it was SOEs. Nearly all developed Countries began from US to Asia protected their infant industries but they had a very strict timelines; rice farmers need to know that it's favour consumers are doing them buying expensive local rice that maybe of poor quality; and they have to work hard to produce high quality cheap rice. If they get comfortable - consumer will suffer - economy will suffer - people will pay for their poor farming and output - instead of using money to buy something else - they will spend buying poor rice. What I dont understand for example is why cement became more expensive locally and there is no end of sight when Dangote should compete with cheap imports yet he is already all over Africa competing internationally? Kenya has had the same issues - there is always cry to protect local farmers or industries - from competition - but I am glad now Ruto is very clear - you either compete or die. The reality is we have East Africa cooperation - you better compete with Uganda or Tanzania on rice or maize or beans. We have Egypt in Comesa in manufacturing and other things. Now we have south africa in Africa Free Trade - all these trade agreements allow duty free entry of goods. So protection at least within Africa is not sustainable. To compete regionally, continentally and globally - means working on your productivity & competitiveness - and it can be done. Any protection should be time bound - and then gov has to be strong enough to allow competition. GeneralDae: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 6:05pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:Your policy looks good on paper but it is unrealistic for African countries generally because of our low productivity. First we need to restrict competition and look inwards for a time like USA and China did, after that we say to the world: Let's play the game boys. Don't get me wrong, imports are not bad but we should first be productive to an extent. Nigeria, Egypt, South Africa imports a lot. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 6:08pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
The important thing is that TIME. The big cost remember is borne by Africans buying shitty locally produced things very expensively. So basically you need something like China did - > you have to reduce tarrif every year until it's gone - 75% for rice - after 5yrs - 50% - after 10yrs -25% - after that duty free - if you cant be competitive do something else. For china average tariff rate has been cut to 36% in 1993, 23% in 1996, 17% in 1997, 15% in 2000, 10% in 2005 GeneralDae: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 6:13pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:If you mean rice, local Nigerian rice is no longer as shitty as it used to be (at least to an extent) because there's a growing competition and rice mills are springing up everywhere. Nigerian rice was supposed to be expensive or close to 20k naira in 2014, but imports were subsidised for some stuff because those were the days of high oil production as well as high oil prices. Hence Government could make food cheap. Also I don't think rice is that cheap anywhere in the world. How much is 50kg bag of rice in Kenya? |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 6:41pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
gallivant:those gold miners and market woman are much more richer than thousands of kenya in formal sector . An ordinary cocoa farmer here has four of his kids in america university paying dollars with his earning from the cocoa product , that is how rich the informal sector can be, though government earn less taxes from them but nobody escape value added tax in Ghana . 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 6:45pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
rvp20182:Ghana economy is informally driven , for you to understand what we earn here per day , you will be studying above minimum wages , you will need to factor in per capital income Most of the labour's here are in informal sector . Some Accra market woman engaging in buying and selling makes more than 100 dollars profit a day ( particularly those in trades of clothes and jewelries ). 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:52pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
GeneralDae:Don't mind that idiot. An army general trained in USA does not have certificates. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 6:53pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
@kazikazi are those your pictures in jamii forum. Always knew you were a freak ![]() ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:56pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:Stop talking like an idiot. It takes time for such things to develop. A good thing has started, if the farmers are not protected at the initial stage they will never get off the starting block as Asians who have centuries of experience in agriculture are going to stiflle the local farmers with cheap exports. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 6:59pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Saddamochieng00: Link please.. 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 7:01pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:African rice from where? Apart from Ghana and Nigeria that currently produce as much rice to meet their consumption.... Which other African country can meet their own consumption? Try exporting soybeans to the US and see Ghana will ban importation of rice from next year because we have met our consumption. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 7:02pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
vaxx: Not possible. When you say such things without a shred of evidence, it makes it difficult to have a constructive debate on the issue. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:03pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:At least Nigerians are not starving like Kenyans and our slum population is not growing like Kenya's. And he didn't cave in to the imf like your candy ass politicians who burdened poor Kenyans with $1.5 for a litre of petrol. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 7:05pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
vaxx: ![]() ![]() So why did Ghana implement a minimum wage in the first place? No country implements such a policy just for the sake of it. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:07pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Mkenya2019:How is this Nigeria? Kenyan men are known to be more effeminate than Nigerian men. You've lost it so much you've fallen to gallipig's level. 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 7:08pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
obaaderemi: This is an emotional outburst, not a salient point. Go find other Obaboons to play with. ![]() ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 7:09pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
obaaderemi: It's always Nigerian and Tanzanian men singing in the airwaves. Get lost. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 7:15pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 7:20pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
gallivant:we are gradually moving from informally economy to formalized ones . It is taking shape. Everybody want to own and charter their own life hence self employment. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vaxx: 7:23pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
gallivant:it is obvious , let me give you a clue , Ghanaian student are the second largest number of outbound student in america from sub saharan africa . They are paying heavily in dollars. Most of this student guardian are in informal sectors 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 7:24pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
vaxx:he has no idea ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by POKUASI2: 7:30pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Just40: You're a big f.ool. I said sekondi harbor area where you have stones used as sea defense wall. That entire area is littered with human waste.. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:35pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
Just40:You are wasting your time with the effeminate pig. He has no idea except what R I P tells him. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:39pm On Nov 16, 2022 |
And one monkey is talking about Buhari making rice unaffordable in Nigeria. 3 Likes
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