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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:43am On Nov 18, 2022
Mujtahida:
It's like modern football hard SE to grasp ooo. If not how is it that for five years we've not been able to fix issues with the midfield and our attacking set up?

Red hot at club level does not often translate into swell performance at national team level ooo. Fact is that club football and national team football is not the same.
All Nigerian Sport team, male and female. All the tournaments played by the female reps this year proves this deficiency.


The male teams, especially at club competition, also proved this fact.


I guess Apc has shown us too much shege that we can't even focus on this abysmal dismal katastrofi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 9:43am On Nov 18, 2022
Joebie:
Thanks mods for putting me in jail because of my 4-0 “prediction”.

7 things:

1. What happened to that team that flogged São Tomé ?
2. Bright Osayi performed so badly compared to Aina’s SE debut.
3. Onyeka brought his Man City A game.
4. Dennis should be our designated PK taker
5. Moses Simon should get the captains arm band
6. Etebo was so damn confident on the ball that he was spraying passes near the goal post.
7. We improved as the game wore on. We would have gotten back into the game had the PARTIAL ref not ended the game prematurely

Bonus: Peseiro is the best thing to have happened to SE since Rohr


Even me that correct you howbeit with Germany,
I was just released this morning by the Anti-spam

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:03am On Nov 18, 2022
Una go don wail tire for here yesterday

Omo una sure say this paseiro sabi anything ?

Una go see Wetin Ghana go play against Portugal then you all will admit the fact that they deserves to be at the World Cup
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 10:05am On Nov 18, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Una go don wail tire for here yesterday

Omo una sure say this paseiro sabi anything ?

Una go see Wetin Ghana go play against Portugal then you all will admit the fact that they deserves to be at the World Cup


Ghana is better Dan dis present eagles team

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by wayodude(m): 10:06am On Nov 18, 2022
do4luv14:
Now Joebie, bros prophhad come to pass6, Finally Portugal had won us 4 zero,

And Wonders Am Surprised nobody is saying anything about Uzoho chopping 4, And of its Maduka the Drums of Attack would had been sounding long after the match


You saw the game right?

Now let us know which of the goals he was at fault for.

Over to you. Thanks
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:08am On Nov 18, 2022
elyte89:



Ghana is better Dan dis present eagles team

Portugal winning naija 4-0 ?

Sure they are better than us but they aren’t that good ,their coach self issa tactical Dinosaur,but naija worst

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:28am On Nov 18, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Portugal winning naija 4-0 ?

Sure they are better than us but they aren’t that good ,their coach self issa tactical Dinosaur,but naija worst

You probably forgot to mention the Technical Director been in position for about year.

My good friend and most honest, humble and straightforward Football ⚽ Manager I have ever come across , Chris Houghton. Add to that he has a wealth of experience under his cap.

I think Ghana have a solid and well balanced team in all departments.

Underestimate them to your peril as we have painfully learned.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 10:31am On Nov 18, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Una go don wail tire for here yesterday

Omo una sure say this paseiro sabi anything ?

Una go see Wetin Ghana go play against Portugal then you all will admit the fact that they deserves to be at the World Cup
the only way they can prove it is by winning or drawing. A loss Is a loss. I don't want to hear something like they played well, it was the goalkeeper fault.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 10:38am On Nov 18, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Portugal winning naija 4-0 ?

Sure they are better than us but they aren’t that good ,their coach self issa tactical Dinosaur,but naija worst
the difference during the qualifiers was simply the coach. If not that rohr decided to be unfortunate towards his last days ni, that Ghana match would have been a sure win for us. They are not really better than us imo. We just decided to be useless during those matches. Well it's gone and we look forward to whatever the future has for us.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:55am On Nov 18, 2022
minfelix:


It is u ppl that tag it negative football, a pattern is grinding results for u, u tag it negative... wether negative or not, rohr kept Nigeria's status on top from start of his appointment till his sack...our rank remained African top 3best teams..strikers,defenders,midfielders were all shining under him...we defended against SA and still beat them, wat den do u want .....is SA a baby football nation? This is not 90's where u run over them with the likes of okocha,rashidi,amokachi....bro wake up whay we have now is what rohr utilized to grind out results

After five years, we did not grow an inch under Rohr. We did not build a solid team. We were never a convincing side. If that is how you want us to play for the next 20 - 30 years, you are free to enjoy that.

Even under Keshi where I was still critical, we could meet France and give them a game. France resorted to injuring Ambrose and Onazi to have an edge. We played the Catalonia team and matched them. We lost to Spain but we gave them a match. We played Italy and left them by two goals in the first half. They had to bring in Pirlo to reclaim the midfield.

We ripped Mali by 4 goals at the AFCON. It was not all good but were were a good side. All of a sudden, you guys want us to park bus and grind football.

I wonder why I even bother. People want us to play Rohr way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:56am On Nov 18, 2022
ABIODUN105:
If you too have forgotten let me remind you.

Before Genort Rohr came on board in 2016 Super Eagles could not qualified for two nations cup back to back

Super eagles is ranked 69th in the world.

Super eagles is on the verge of going back to that era



Before Rohr came on board, we won the AFCON, beating some tough sides in African football.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:57am On Nov 18, 2022
Mujtahida:
It's like modern football hard SE to grasp ooo. If not how is it that for five years we've not been able to fix issues with the midfield and our attacking set up?

Red hot at club level does not often translate into swell performance at national team level ooo. Fact is that club football and national team football is not the same.

You can't play modern football without coaches that are well versed in it.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:59am On Nov 18, 2022
komekn:


Look at bitter leaf Soup rancourous venom based analysis.

You need redemption.


You can make your point without verbal attacks.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:10am On Nov 18, 2022
wayodude:


You saw the game right?

Now let us know which of the goals he was at fault for.

Over to you. Thanks

This is not about fault, Of we are going to Talk about fault, Then Uzoho should not be between the sticks,

Maduka that we all are cutting to size, His Fault was not worst than Uzoho,, Yet we are trying to crucify him
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 11:37am On Nov 18, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Before Rohr came on board, we won the AFCON, beating some tough sides in African football.

Why didn't they go and defend the trophy the following Afcon??....bros any sweet moment of creative and tiki-taka football u enjoyed aside is a flash in the pan performance for super eagle's...only the golden generation boast of that performance for back to back to back to back years...Keshi was a good coach, at least he was sacked for failing to qualify us, why can't u do the same for rohr....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:39am On Nov 18, 2022
Bright osayi Samuel is good sha

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Parrot69: 11:42am On Nov 18, 2022
Odunayaw:
Bassey had a poor performance

Poor ball progression
Dirty defensive awareness

You forgot to praise Chukwueze. That directness is what I want to see consistently

You're somehow right about Bassey, considering the fact he's very prone to committing silly errors on the 18yard box. But overall, he put on a good performance, hold up play, agility and most of our attempts went through his wings.
I can't say much about Chukwueze cos he's a ON/OFF player. Coaches majorly start with their best 11 on the first half, my ratings is based on that.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 11:44am On Nov 18, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


After five years, we did not grow an inch under Rohr. We did not build a solid team. We were never a convincing side. If that is how you want us to play for the next 20 - 30 years, you are free to enjoy that.

Even under Keshi where I was still critical, we could meet France and give them a game. France resorted to injuring Ambrose and Onazi to have an edge. We played the Catalonia team and matched them. We lost to Spain but we gave them a match. We played Italy and left them by two goals in the first half. They had to bring in Pirlo to reclaim the midfield.

We ripped Mali by 4 goals at the AFCON. It was not all good but were were a good side. All of a sudden, you guys want us to park bus and grind football.

I wonder why I even bother. People want us to play Rohr way.

U lost to Spain but you gave them a match.....We drew Brazil and still gave them a match even with his negative u guys tag him, we beat defending champion at the round 16 and still gave them a match....we lost to a die mins goal to Argentina and still gave them a match.....i don't jus know the growth you people are looking....you think with mentality of 9ja players and current dispensation we are into a certain "super eagle's" can maintain a momentum of football creativity, free flow pass?....bros we can only jus flash it in a tournament or a game and go back to the 9ja we use to know from 2004 till date

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by M7even(m): 11:48am On Nov 18, 2022
Joebie:
Thanks mods for putting me in jail because of my 4-0 “prediction”.

7 things:

1. What happened to that team that flogged São Tomé ?
2. Bright Osayi performed so badly compared to Aina’s SE debut.
3. Onyeka brought his Man City A game.
4. Dennis should be our designated PK taker
5. Moses Simon should get the captains arm band
6. Etebo was so damn confident on the ball that he was spraying passes near the goal post.
7. We improved as the game wore on. We would have gotten back into the game had the PARTIAL ref not ended the game prematurely

Bonus: Peseiro is the best thing to have happened to SE since Rohr

Why are they all hyping Bright osay. Even in his personal mind he would have realized how badly he flopped. He was allowing that young black Portuguese left back have a field day driving foward at him. Aaah. So confused was he they took his wing for a ride in the first half hence the pressure that led to the cross hitting his other hand. He was stretched and well stretched till the second half. He knows in his mind he definitely was poor.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:51am On Nov 18, 2022
If Cameroon see 1pt for this World Cup e go be by luck
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 11:52am On Nov 18, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


After five years, we did not grow an inch under Rohr. We did not build a solid team. We were never a convincing side. If that is how you want us to play for the next 20 - 30 years, you are free to enjoy that.

Even under Keshi where I was still critical, we could meet France and give them a game. France resorted to injuring Ambrose and Onazi to have an edge. We played the Catalonia team and matched them. We lost to Spain but we gave them a match. We played Italy and left them by two goals in the first half. They had to bring in Pirlo to reclaim the midfield.

We ripped Mali by 4 goals at the AFCON. It was not all good but were were a good side. All of a sudden, you guys want us to park bus and grind football.

I wonder why I even bother. People want us to play Rohr way.

Anytime he wins convincingly by playing creative attacking football they will say it's individual brilliance from talented players.... I don't see any negatives in the man...he coached us 5years and he earned some respectable feats for us...he is a type of coach that will surely drag your team to a medal and put your name on history book of tournaments..he can't come back again, but he wasn't a bad coach
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by caprikon: 11:53am On Nov 18, 2022
The Eguavoen led technical Dept. has a lot of questions to answer....but they can't give what they don't have.

Peseiro from indications likes to set up his team primarily for counters. Funnily, the team's shape and sync isn't up to the level to implement quick transitions when there is a chance to catch the opposition on the break.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:13pm On Nov 18, 2022
caprikon:
The Eguavoen led technical Dept. has a lot of questions to answer....but they can't give what they don't have.

Peseiro from indications likes to set up his team primarily for counters. Funnily, the team's shape and sync isn't up to the level to implement quick transitions when there is a chance to catch the opposition on the break.




Eguavon lead technical department? Lol...how are we even sure that the department works in hand with the coaching crew..
Let's not forget that Pinnick went out on his own to consult outsiders (reportedly Mourinho) before he appointed Peseiro... He didn't consult the technical department which would have been the protocol... It was also reported that Rohr was recommended to him by Wenger... Technical department looks more or less a paper department...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:17pm On Nov 18, 2022
minfelix:


Anytime he wins convincingly by playing creative attacking football they will say it's individual brilliance from talented players.... I don't see any negatives in the man...he coached us 5years and he earned some respectable feats for us...he is a type of coach that will surely drag your team to a medal and put your name on history book of tournaments..he can't come back again, but he wasn't a bad coach

All these things some of you are praising Rohr for,making him look like some sort of genius were accomplished by many previous coaches before him... Keshi and Amodu achieved all that...they were still sacked.. Berti Vogts had a good CV before he was appointed our coach,but after the shambolic display at the AFCON,he was fired...
What's so special about Rohr? If he is that good,why is he yet to get another coaching job?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:32pm On Nov 18, 2022
Frank "The Tank" Onyeka vs Portugal yesterday:

45mins played.
32 touches.
25/28 accurate passes.
2 pass entries into Final third.
1 interception.
2 recoveries.
2 fouls committed.
0/3 ground duels won (only minus which is even unusual because he excels naturally in duels. He is "the Tank" for good reasons).



Onyeka registered more pass entries into the final third than Ndidi and Aribo combined in the game.
*Ndidi played 45 mins. Aribo played 69mins.





I have my criticism of Onyeka's game observed overtime and it still stands but truth be told he did better than Ndidi and Aribo yesterday and it won't be the first time too that he trumps both in terms of SE Performances.

Onyeka's limited ball playing is still an issue in the long run but I will rather have him in my Midfield for his box-to-box plays and vertical driving traits than a Joe Aribo whose role just has to be redefined in our Super Eagles.

Aribo is no bonafide midfielder. We have to move forward with the truth

And mind you, this ball playing deficiency is not just a midfield problem. It is also a defence problem. Ekong on the ball too is quite under average. Akpoguma is not convincing. We need good ball playing CBs who also excel in the dirty aspects (or some) of the role. CBs who are also quite mobile. We looked too rigid at the center in defensive transtions.


TheSuperNerd:
Onyeka was a better performer today than Aribo. No caps.

Infact I am almost tempted to say he even did better than Ndidi. But that can be debated.

His passing was decent although most of them in the defensive half and were back/sideway passes but he lost all his duels and that wasn't pleasing at all.

In all, he was calmer in the middle and he made more passes into the final third than Ndidi and Aribo combined all game. Shocking!

Onyeka is surely one of the midfielders I consider as an option when talking midfield options for the Super Eagles but not as a starter.


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:40pm On Nov 18, 2022
minfelix:


Anytime he wins convincingly by playing creative attacking football they will say it's individual brilliance from talented players.... I don't see any negatives in the man...he coached us 5years and he earned some respectable feats for us...he is a type of coach that will surely drag your team to a medal and put your name on history book of tournaments..he can't come back again, but he wasn't a bad coach

We did not grow. He did not do things that we had not done before. In the end we played dross footie under him and we did not grow as a team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:40pm On Nov 18, 2022
Meanwhile... My Morocco won yesterday but what is there to celebrate when they faced a Georgian team without Kvaratskhelia. grin

Kvaradona for do them strong thing even though Morocco would still win.

Anyway, Cameroun is currently playing 1-1 with Panama after 74mins.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:44pm On Nov 18, 2022
Don't mind them. They don't understand that the bolded here is the point.

WE DIDN'T GROW. WE RATHER REGRESSED.

What we are after is growth. Positive evolution of the team. And it can come only under the right tactical head/mind. Not under some Wyscout-swinging/Portuguese-speaking worse version of Rohr.


TheGoodJoe:


We did not grow. He did not do things that we had not done before. In the end we played dross footie under him and we did not grow as a team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:49pm On Nov 18, 2022
Osayi-Samuel kept up with Nuno Mendes bar for bar, pace for pace, power for power, flow for flow.

Even when Portugal switched Nuno for Vitinha and also brought in Raphael Guerreiro, Osayi kept up as well.

That Bright is too bright. I used fine addition last night... please pardon my mild language.

To be honest, he is a fantastic addition to the team and would surely give Aina tough competition in that role although I still rate Aina higher for now.

But I am glad Bright has proven our scouting/tactical brief report on him in this thread, long before his invite, RIGHT!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:05pm On Nov 18, 2022
grin grin

BannedLarge/12Large1 when he realises he cannot outrightly blame Osimhen for yesterday's loss to Portugal:

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 1:06pm On Nov 18, 2022
Danielnino00:


All these things some of you are praising Rohr for,making him look like some sort of genius were accomplished by many previous coaches before him... Keshi and Amodu achieved all that...they were still sacked.. Berti Vogts had a good CV before he was appointed our coach,but after the shambolic display at the AFCON,he was fired...
What's so special about Rohr? If he is that good,why is he yet to get another coaching job?
it seems Nigerians are the only ones that see something in him. The other 200 football nations are definitely not blessed with the kind of coach eyesight we possess that is why he has not been engaged in a job since na.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Amedino99(m): 1:11pm On Nov 18, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
Frank "The Tank" Onyeka vs Portugal yesterday:

45mins played.
32 touches.
25/28 accurate passes.
2 pass entries into Final third.
1 interception.
2 recoveries.
2 fouls committed.
0/3 ground duels won (only minus which is even unusual because he excels naturally in duels. He is "the Tank" for good reasons).



Onyeka registered more pass entries into the final third than Ndidi and Aribo combined in the game.
*Ndidi played 45 mins. Aribo played 69mins.





I have my criticism of Onyeka's game observed overtime and it still stands but truth be told he did better than Ndidi and Aribo yesterday and it won't be the first time too that he trumps both in terms of SE Performances.

Onyeka's limited ball playing is still an issue in the long run but I will rather have him in my Midfield for his box-to-box plays and vertical driving traits than a Joe Aribo whose role just has to be redefined in our Super Eagles.

Aribo is no bonafide midfielder. We have to move forward with the truth

And mind you, this ball playing deficiency is not just a midfield problem. It is also a defence problem. Ekong on the ball too is quite under average. Akpoguma is not convincing. We need good ball playing CBs who also excel in the dirty aspects (or some) of the role. CBs who are also quite mobile. We looked too rigid at the center in defensive transtions.


iheanacho and aribo are the two players we can't identify their main position in the team and trying to accommodate them in the team has not worked well for us.

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