Amedino99:
iheanacho and aribo are the two players we can't identify their main position in the team and trying to accommodate them in the team has not worked well for us.

TheGoodJoe:


After five years, we did not grow an inch under Rohr. We did not build a solid team. We were never a convincing side. If that is how you want us to play for the next 20 - 30 years, you are free to enjoy that.

Even under Keshi where I was still critical, we could meet France and give them a game. France resorted to injuring Ambrose and Onazi to have an edge. We played the Catalonia team and matched them. We lost to Spain but we gave them a match. We played Italy and left them by two goals in the first half. They had to bring in Pirlo to reclaim the midfield.

We ripped Mali by 4 goals at the AFCON. It was not all good but were were a good side. All of a sudden, you guys want us to park bus and grind football.

I wonder why I even bother. People want us to play Rohr way.

TheSuperNerd:
Bro, you have me all wrong.

Not even us can beat those guys in your group. We are terrible. Aiit. Terrible.

But thing is, una go still come house after first round shaa. Good luck.

TheSuperNerd:
Frank "The Tank" Onyeka vs Portugal yesterday:

45mins played.
32 touches.
25/28 accurate passes.
2 pass entries into Final third.
1 interception.
2 recoveries.
2 fouls committed.
0/3 ground duels won (only minus which is even unusual because he excels naturally in duels. He is "the Tank" for good reasons).



Onyeka registered more pass entries into the final third than Ndidi and Aribo combined in the game.
*Ndidi played 45 mins. Aribo played 69mins.





I have my criticism of Onyeka's game observed overtime and it still stands but truth be told he did better than Ndidi and Aribo yesterday and it won't be the first time too that he trumps both in terms of SE Performances.

Onyeka's limited ball playing is still an issue in the long run but I will rather have him in my Midfield for his box-to-box plays and vertical driving traits than a Joe Aribo whose role just has to be redefined in our Super Eagles.

Aribo is no bonafide midfielder. We have to move forward with the truth

And mind you, this ball playing deficiency is not just a midfield problem. It is also a defence problem. Ekong on the ball too is quite under average. Akpoguma is not convincing. We need good ball playing CBs who also excel in the dirty aspects (or some) of the role. CBs who are also quite mobile. We looked too rigid at the center in defensive transtions.

TheSuperNerd:
Frank "The Tank" Onyeka vs Portugal yesterday:

45mins played.
32 touches.
25/28 accurate passes.
2 pass entries into Final third.
1 interception.
2 recoveries.
2 fouls committed.
0/3 ground duels won (only minus which is even unusual because he excels naturally in duels. He is "the Tank" for good reasons).



Onyeka registered more pass entries into the final third than Ndidi and Aribo combined in the game.
*Ndidi played 45 mins. Aribo played 69mins.





I have my criticism of Onyeka's game observed overtime and it still stands but truth be told he did better than Ndidi and Aribo yesterday and it won't be the first time too that he trumps both in terms of SE Performances.

Onyeka's limited ball playing is still an issue in the long run but I will rather have him in my Midfield for his box-to-box plays and vertical driving traits than a Joe Aribo whose role just has to be redefined in our Super Eagles.

Aribo is no bonafide midfielder. We have to move forward with the truth

And mind you, this ball playing deficiency is not just a midfield problem. It is also a defence problem. Ekong on the ball too is quite under average. Akpoguma is not convincing. We need good ball playing CBs who also excel in the dirty aspects (or some) of the role. CBs who are also quite mobile. We looked too rigid at the center in defensive transtions.

Danielnino00:


All these things some of you are praising Rohr for,making him look like some sort of genius were accomplished by many previous coaches before him... Keshi and Amodu achieved all that...they were still sacked.. Berti Vogts had a good CV before he was appointed our coach,but after the shambolic display at the AFCON,he was fired...
What's so special about Rohr? If he is that good,why is he yet to get another coaching job?

TheSuperNerd:
Don't mind them. They don't understand that the bolded here is the point.

WE DIDN'T GROW. WE RATHER REGRESSED.

What we are after is growth. Positive evolution of the team. And it can come only under the right tactical head/mind. Not under some Wyscout-swinging/Portuguese-speaking worse version of Rohr.

We did not grow go and watch where SE was before he came and what he achieved during his time.. anyway, if things doesn’t change, I see SE reaching another 2016 height

Wizzzzmike:

Lol since super chickens has been to the wc 6 times and then knock out of the group stage more than us I have no problem lol. Remember we beat ur wotowoto FC and y'all still pain lol

Parrot69:
That guy on jersey no.10(whatever his name) has no business putting on SE/Nigeria most revered Number after the likes of Okocha & Mikel Obi.
What an eyesore.

TheSuperNerd:
When Meliforme first dropped the bombshell that Aribo is not a bonafide midfielder (I, soon after, affirmed this) and almost everyone came for him but he stood strong unfazed coz he knows he is RIGHT (Time has actually proved him so).

ChrisKels:
I think this should be Emmanuel Dennis's last game for Nigeria. He should be thrown away to rot somewhere else with his arrogance.

do4luv14:



Drop Etebo Own for me abeg

Meliforme:
THE DEFEAT TO PORTUGAL WHAT WENT WRONG?

It has never been about what went wrong, but what keeps going wrong.

"You can't keep repeating a particular routine expecting different outcomes"

Every tactical setup, requires the right personnel for application.
A 4-4-2 or 4-3-3 or any other tactical setup and the attendant variations of them, require playing personnel with the right technical and tactical qualities to thrive.
Wingers required to prosecute 4-4-2 have qualities that are quite different from wingers for 4-3-3.

In the former (4-4-2 ) the wingers are directly exposed and in sync with their fullbacks.

They are to do the following:
* Provide cover for their fullbacks. this involves additional defensive abilities.
* Provide support for the forwards.
* The ability to score goals is not primary to what is expected of them.
* They must possess decent ball passing abilities such as the ability to give long balls, crosses, chipped passes.
* They make decisions typical to their roles. for instance, shooting at goal is not usually the first option for a winger in this setup, rather the winger utilises feasible options to make the ball available to the forwards.

In 4-3-3, the winger in this setup is referred to as a forwards or striker. The involvement with their fullback is more diminished because of the presence of a midfield trio, ipso facto They are expected to have more offensive duties than defensive.

The following is expected of them:
* Score goals. This is primary to their roles.
* Assist the Center Forward in many ways ( to be discussed later).
* There is more flexibility to the manner at which the winger contributes to defense. This is essentially a coach's preference or tactical approach. Nevertheless on the average they spend more time in the opposition's half.

In Super Eagles. judging from the descriptions given of wingers in 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 , it is very obvious that we are deploying the wrong personnel in the chosen tactical arrangement. For instance Moses Simon and Ademola Lookman are forwards (strikers) and do not have the required defensive capabilities and passing finesse to thrive as wingers in 4-4-2. They are modern forwards groomed to thrive in a front three. They lack the ability for build up play and ball progression. That is the job of midfielders. That is the job done for them at their clubs. They are usually at the receiving end.

If we must stick to 4-4-2, We will have to go for players who will not only provide good defensive cover, but also decent ball passing ability, players groomed for build up play, and patient on the ball.

BannedLarge:



The same coach that flogged cameroun, Algeria, Zambia beat Argentina, Poland, draw Brazil.. when you play superior team and understand your deficiencies by playing defensive style, it’s smart… oya now, you have players like Aribo, Moses Simon and you want to go toe to toe with Bruno fernandes. It looks like Nigeria football is going back to dead

Meliforme:


Thank you TheSuperNerd.

BannedLarge:



The same coach that flogged cameroun, Algeria, Zambia beat Argentina, Poland, draw Brazil.. when you play superior team and understand your deficiencies by playing defensive style, it’s smart… oya now, you have players like Aribo, Moses Simon and you want to go toe to toe with Bruno fernandes. It looks like Nigeria football is going back to dead

TheSuperNerd:
Don't mind them. They don't understand that the bolded here is the point.

WE DIDN'T GROW. WE RATHER REGRESSED.

What we are after is growth. Positive evolution of the team. And it can come only under the right tactical head/mind. Not under some Wyscout-swinging/Portuguese-speaking worse version of Rohr.

Napoleon55:

Aribo,
Who gave him that no.10 jersey sef?
If he was d one that picked the jersey by himself,he should honorably keep it back until a worthy successor arrives.
If we must play with no.10 jersey,
Iwobi should b the one wearing d no.10 jersey for

TheGoodJoe:


Before Rohr came on board, we won the AFCON, beating some tough sides in African football.

ABIODUN105:
Have been a huge fans of the SE since 2000 nations cup.SE cannot defeat two different northern african team in a nations cup. The only year we achieve such feat is 2000 nations cup and is due to home advantange.

In year 2013 when we won the nations cup thank God that all the northern african team were all eliminated at the group stage SE did not face any in 2013.

If Rohr have won 2019 nations cup for us i will fancy it then that of 2013.

zuchyblink:
We easily fall to highly technical sides.

Philosopher1979:


This issue is the job of the coach. As a coach you are supposed to know the best formation for your players and the players you need.
Is it that peseiro is not a good coach or what. It seems we don't have good coaches

AndSunGorilla:

Chai, dem don block am o.

TheSuperNerd:
I stand with Morocco bruv. Even if they don't venture far, I am with them. They play better football than that Ghanaian team of Merceneries and Akwaaba crooners.

Morocco have always been my Favorite African team after the Super Eagles. Outside Africa, it is Brazil and The Netherlands for me.


Ghana isn't going beyond the first round. Cameroun too will not cross the first round.

Senegal might.

Morocco's chances are not clear but they might or might not.

AndSunGorilla:

Your head dey dia jare, ori e fonkan sibe!!!! Fela's Viva Africa song just dey play for my head.