yinkeys:

Double digits in the EPL last season is not below average o

double digits no mean say we suppose dey call am everytime. He has played 8 games with 6 being as a substitute while scoring 1 goal this season. He is clearly not in form. Even iheanacho that is a regular was not called up due to his lack of form.

yinkeys:

Why do you say that ?
I was thinking Herve Renard would do a fantastic job with the quality of players we’ve got but we can’t afford the Saudi Arabia national team coach post World Cup
He definitely doesn’t look like a coach that would tolerate being owed lol

The number 1 thing we clamored for post-Rohr is playing style.
The Portuguese has brought an attacking brand. Now it's up to the players.

Amedino99:
Totally ignore the main problem which is the coaching and focus on the birth country of the players. Classic nff.

It's nether coaching nor place of birth.
It's the low quality of the talents we are parading currently that is causing decline in our National team. SEs are bang below average players. They can't hold the ball well, can't string passes together continually, at lost when defending dead balls, they can't even make good use of it when presented with it. And above all, administrative ineptitude & the demonic monster called corruption.

TheSuperNerd:
I disagree with the emboldened...

Nigerian Football's True Glories may have started with the Super Eagles but it surely doesn't end with the Super Eagles.

We have national teams who did exceptionally well this year. We have players who dorned our jerseys and repped with distinction. Are we gonna ignore them just because the Super Eagles lost 5 friendlies in one year?

What about the fact that this same Super Eagles sit top of their Afcon Qualifiers group? We could lean a bit on that.

Now look at this, holistically... in 2022:

- Nigeria's U17 Golden Eaglets won the Wafu B Afcon Qualifiers tournament with distinction. We won all games. We have lads like Emmanuel Michael, Abubakar Abdullahi, Precious Williams, Richard Odoh (GK), Jibril Azeez, Raphael Oyebanjo, Basil Mbata, Ebube Okere, Ozor Okeke, Miracle Ogwor, Yahaya Lawali, Jeremiah Olaleke, Light Eke etc all in that squad of truly talented youngsters.

Are we not gonna recognise them?

- Nigeria's U20 Flying Eagles won the Wafu B Afcon Qualifiers Tournament as well. We won it unbeaten.

The squad includes impressively talented lads like Daniel Daga, Ibrahim Muhammed, Tolulope Ojo, Oluwatosin Adegbite, Nathaniel Nwosu (GK), Ahmed Abdullahi and a few more.

Are we not gonna recognise them?


- Nigeria’s Flamingoes won Bronze at the FIFA U17 WWC becoming the Second African side to bag a medal at that level.
Impressive lasses like Opeyemi Ajakaye, Amina Bello, Edidiong Etim, Miracle Usani, Taiwo Afolabi, Faith Omilana (GK), etc.

Should we ignore them too??


- Our Super Falcons didn't win the Wafcon but we saw Asisat Oshoala earn a Ballon D'or Nomination and ranking this year. When was the last time a Nigerian player man or woman earned that?


I think we should go ahead with the NNFF Awards. We have feats and talents to recognise even in the midst of a bad year in general for the Super Eagles.


Cc Danielnino00, Icon4s.

chrisooblog:
I think the awards should go ahead. Yes our national teams have been a disappoint but that doesn't mean individual players haven't excelled this year. National team football shouldn't be the sole determinant of how well our players have done.

I believe the awards is a growing brand that needs to be nurtured to become a significant voice of all things Nigerian football and it's consistency that will help keep in it in front view of soccer watchers so I would suggest we go ahead.

Kudos to you for putting yourself out there to help keep the awards going.

I appreciate your votes of confidence comrades, but I just felt it was necessary to get the opinion of the thread members before going ahead,given the fact that we're the majority stakeholders of the award...

Perhaps it's best to go with what the thread wants..

Danielnino00:
Gents, Ladies, good evening.

As we all know, it's been rather a bad year for our football..At least mostly... we saw shege here and there...But there were also a few positives too.

In light of this, I'd like the thread's opinion as to whether the annual Nairaland Nigeria football fans award should go ahead this year? And if the thread permits,I'd like to organize the award again this year.

Those in support of the award to go ahead, click like...those against should click share.

Thank you


CC: icon4s

8 likes, 11 shares.... C'mon gents! Surely we would like to keep up with the consistency!

This poll closes at 12 midnight today after which a decision will be made...

Thank you!

Mujtahida:

But he couldn't do that after 5 years.

Out of 2tournaments he dragged our name enter medal book on one...our players will surely top the goal charts in qualifiers

zuchyblink:
“They didn’t deserve to qualify for the World Cup from the way they played. The Ghanaians showed they wanted it more than our boys. Their attitude was not the best at all and they were nonchalant in their play.

“And this is what you get when you have 99 percent of your players born overseas,” the ‘Bull’ concluded.

This analysis is just too simplistic as a diagnosis of the problem of our team.

Super Eagles is poor because 90 percent of the players are FB(in you people's mind, FB make up 90% of the team). What sort of nursery school thinking is this?
Ekong
Aina
Bassey
Iwobi
Aribo
Ebuehi
Maduka
Lookman
Moffi
Ajayi
Are FB players.

Moses Simon
Iheanacho
Osimhen
Ndidi
Onyeka
Chukwueze
Bonke
Onuachu
Uzoho
Shehu
Musa
Awaziem
Omeruo
Are the Nigerian born players.

On a given day the team is a fairly balanced mix of both FB and NB. Yet it is the FB who are responsible for our poor footballing fortunes?

So if the team is made up 100% Nigerian players, we will bounce back? I really do not understand this kind of simplistic almost naive narrative.

The one unwavering factor for inclusion in the national team is quality. Not whether you belong to any of the categories of FB or NB.

Fact however is that for many years we realized that owing to the regression of our local teams, our best players are those who ply their trade abroad and even at that it is just basic common sense that you pick your best players from those who play in the best clubs in Europe and elsewhere(if they are the best)

Danielnino00:


8 likes, 11 shares.... C'mon gents! Surely we would like to keep up with the consistency!

This poll closes at 12 midnight today after which a decision will be made...

Thank you!

Tell me page number I can click like

zuchyblink:
If a player with dual nationality was good enough he would never play for Nigeria.

If our local born players are good enough we will never need FB players

TheSuperNerd:
I disagree with the emboldened...

Nigerian Football's True Glories may have started with the Super Eagles but it surely doesn't end with the Super Eagles.

We have national teams who did exceptionally well this year. We have players who dorned our jerseys and repped with distinction. Are we gonna ignore them just because the Super Eagles lost 5 friendlies in one year?

What about the fact that this same Super Eagles sit top of their Afcon Qualifiers group? We could lean a bit on that.

Now look at this, holistically... in 2022:

- Nigeria's U17 Golden Eaglets won the Wafu B Afcon Qualifiers tournament with distinction. We won all games. We have lads like Emmanuel Michael, Abubakar Abdullahi, Precious Williams, Richard Odoh (GK), Jibril Azeez, Raphael Oyebanjo, Basil Mbata, Ebube Okere, Ozor Okeke, Miracle Ogwor, Yahaya Lawali, Jeremiah Olaleke, Light Eke etc all in that squad of truly talented youngsters.

Are we not gonna recognise them?

- Nigeria's U20 Flying Eagles won the Wafu B Afcon Qualifiers Tournament as well. We won it unbeaten.

The squad includes impressively talented lads like Daniel Daga, Ibrahim Muhammed, Tolulope Ojo, Oluwatosin Adegbite, Nathaniel Nwosu (GK), Ahmed Abdullahi and a few more.

Are we not gonna recognise them?


- Nigeria’s Flamingoes won Bronze at the FIFA U17 WWC becoming the Second African side to bag a medal at that level.
Impressive lasses like Opeyemi Ajakaye, Amina Bello, Edidiong Etim, Miracle Usani, Taiwo Afolabi, Faith Omilana (GK), etc.

Should we ignore them too??


- Our Super Falcons didn't win the Wafcon but we saw Asisat Oshoala earn a Ballon D'or Nomination and ranking this year. When was the last time a Nigerian player man or woman earned that?


I think we should go ahead with the NNFF Awards. We have feats and talents to recognise even in the midst of a bad year in general for the Super Eagles.


Cc Danielnino00, Icon4s.

Valid points !
However I'll argue that some of the award categories will look like a joke if we are to have nominees for them, bearing in mind that the award has always been "super Eagles centric" over the years, now imagine the following:

1. Who and who will be the Nominees for goalkeeper of the year Uzoho or okoye


2. Most impactful new inclusion? Who? Where is the impact? Definitely not in the super eagles, in the super falcons, maybe people like Plumptre will be nominated but what impact? The falcons had one of the worst if not their worst Awcon outing this year.

3. Defender of the year: can we give it to the under 17 left back? Winning the WAFU B tourney should not be enough to win "defender" of the year... So again the question arises, who will be the Nominees?
Super eagles players! And it'll look like a joke, we simply do not have defenders that deserve the award this year

In conclusion while I agree that the award should hold to appreciate the few performers we had in 2022 (very few in fact) some award categories should be left out (so we don't look like jokers), or we create new categories to target the teams that made us happy in what has been a gloomy year for Nigerian football

Amedino99:
Totally ignore the main problem which is the coaching and focus on the birth country of the players. Classic nff.

I've never seen such hot pile of nonsense as what I've just been reading as the notions of the NFF President.
It's the same quota system thinking that has plagued Nigeria and thwarted our development.
A team is performing poorly and the analysis zeroes in on the assumption that this is so because we have FB players in the team?

Okay who and who are the local born players who are so good whose positions have been ceded to the FB players?

Oyibo people think scientifically and factually. Black man thinks sentimentally and on the basis of assumptions not grounded in facts.

We have FB players in our team = that is why we are performing badly.

Chai!!!

zoboizee:

It's nether coaching nor place of birth.
It's the low quality of the talents we are parading currently that is causing decline in our National team. SEs are bang below average players. They can't hold the ball well, can't string passes together continually, at lost when defending dead balls, they can't even make good use of it when presented with it. And above all, administrative ineptitude & the demonic monster called corruption.

The thinking is this:
FB = low quality
LB = high quality

minfelix:

Out of 2tournaments he dragged our name enter medal book on one...our players will surely top the goal charts in qualifiers

In the overall context of Nigerian football history, bronze is no achievement in AFCON. It is like sand sand. Too common to be anything to reckon with. The fact that that is Rohr's highest achievement underlines the point many of his detractors have been making. He is poor. He did nothing extraordinary. Go through our history and see how many Afcon bronze we have won. I'm ashamed that you even mentioned this.

Mujtahida:

This analysis is just too simplistic as a diagnosis of the problem of our team.

Super Eagles is poor because 90 percent of the players are FB(in you people's mind, FB make up 90% of the team). What sort of nursery school thinking is this?
Ekong
Aina
Bassey
Iwobi
Aribo
Ebuehi
Maduka
Lookman
Moffi
Ajayi
Are FB players.

Moses Simon
Iheanacho
Osimhen
Ndidi
Onyeka
Chukwueze
Bonke
Onuachu
Uzoho
Shehu
Musa
Awaziem
Omeruo
Are the Nigerian born players.

On a given day the team is a fairly balanced mix of both FB and NB. Yet it is the FB who are responsible for our poor footballing fortunes?

So if the team is made up 100% Nigerian players, we will bounce back? I really do not understand this kind of simplistic almost naive narrative.

The one unwavering factor for inclusion in the national team is quality. Not whether you belong to any of the categories of FB or NB.

Fact however is that for many years we realized that owing to the regression of our local teams, our best players are those who ply their trade abroad and even at that it is just basic common sense that you pick your best players from those who play in the best clubs in Europe and elsewhere(if they are the best)

when we had only Nigerian born players we got to the World Cup semifinal and also won multiple Afcon titles

We can always introduce new categories to accommodate the ones that deserve recognition.

It is not every year we have age grade football so I believe it is only fair we introduce categories that recognises our budding talents from the youth/cadet systems for both men and women football.

As for some "Super Eagles-centered" awards, you are right... We should not be awarding any GK with a GK of the year tag. None is deserving.

But we could introduce Best Youth GK of the year and Best Women's GK of the year and even Best Youth GK of the year (Women).

Just making examples.


Same could apply to defender of the year even though some may argue that the award recognises the whole of 2022 and not just the Portugal game.
We were hit 1-0 at home by CAR in 2021 and that didn't prevent the NNFF Awards in 2021.


And Most Impactful New Inclusion will always be recognised no matter how bad. Bright was impressive on the overall on his debut vs Portugal whether we all like it or not.
Lookman made his debut earlier this year and he has been a mainstay since then.

We have close to 12 lads who made their SE debuts in 2022. One of them has to be the most impactful new inclusion.

Most improved SE player will always emerge too no matter how bad.

But in the end, I am not in the committee for the awards. I have served before but the decision to go ahead or not with the 2022 edition rests in the hands of the votes on Danielnino00's Post.

Ofcos, I am neutral on that pole. I won't vote despite making my stand known.

I will let the thread decide.

Hanibal:


Valid points !
However I'll argue that some of the award categories will look like a joke if we are to have nominees for them, bearing in mind that the award has always been "super Eagles centric" over the years, now imagine the following:

1. Who and who will be the Nominees for goalkeeper of the year Uzoho or okoye


2. Most impactful new inclusion? Who? Where is the impact? Definitely not in the super eagles, in the super falcons, maybe people like Plumptre will be nominated but what impact? The falcons had one of the worst if not their worst Awcon outing this year.

3. Defender of the year: can we give it to the under 17 left back? Winning the WAFU B tourney should not be enough to win "defender" of the year... So again the question arises, who will be the Nominees?
Super eagles players! And it'll look like a joke, we simply do not have defenders that deserve the award this year

In conclusion while I agree that the award should hold to appreciate the few performers we had in 2022 (very few in fact) some award categories should be left out (so we don't look like jokers), or we create new categories to target the teams that made us happy in what has been a gloomy year for Nigerian football

Danielnino00:


I appreciate your votes of confidence comrades, but I just felt it was necessary to get the opinion of the thread members before going ahead,given the fact that we're the majority stakeholders of the award...

Perhaps it's best to go with what the thread wants..

Whatever the thread decides Dan. It's fine.

Amedino99:
Totally ignore the main problem which is the coaching and focus on the birth country of the players. Classic nff.

As in eh.... Players are not even the problem. We have one of the best if not the best squads in Africa yet we always underachieved.

yinkeys:
What happened to Alampasu?

Only God knows..

Not even Dele sef.. there are
Saviour Godwin
Ifeanyi Ifeanyi
Ifeanyi Matthew
Prince Izu Omego
Musa Yahaya
Chidiebere Nwakali
Abdullahi Alfa
Chidera Ezeh

COOL10:


Make una leave Dennis alone nah

joxxy01:
And no be say he even sabi play the ball..very below average players..infact we need to change all our squad with few exceptions

Moses Usor, Yira Sor, Peter Olayinka, Boniface and others are probably hoping to get a chance with the eagles yet one guy dey form Emilokan ...

codemaniacs:


he must never ever get call-up letter or invitation again.

The only callup letter he will receive na NYSC callup letter.

chrisooblog:
I think the awards should go ahead. Yes our national teams have been a disappoint but that doesn't mean individual players haven't excelled this year. National team football shouldn't be the sole determinant of how well our players have done.

I believe the awards is a growing brand that needs to be nurtured to become a significant voice of all things Nigerian football and it's consistency that will help keep in it in front view of soccer watchers so I would suggest we go ahead.

Kudos to you for putting yourself out there to help keep the awards going.

seconded

jihday:
when we had only Nigerian born players we got to the World Cup semifinal and also won multiple Afcon titles

We did incredible things my brother.

Mujtahida:

I guess they have fried our brains. National Football is not so much a thing with most football fans in Nigeria. Their appetite for juicy football is sated by the fancy football they watch every weekend across Europe's elite leagues.

I don't blame the fans. They've kept up with balderdash and terrible off and on moments that can't even be defined on a spectrum. The suffering and smiling traumatic identity is in our sports. I won't blame them for fixation on club football during the weekend.

The same guys play good ball at their clubs and turn up even much more fiery and determined in their National colors....except SE.

They'll perform over the weekend and come and "flop"


The above can only be blamed on players 3/10 of the time. The remaining 7/10 is a stinking rot with our football philosophy, identity and hierachy across all levels.

From 2002 WC till that 2013 Afcon win, cadet football and the SF has been the delight of Nigerian fans than the Senior team.


Excuses abound but they are absolutely minute compared to this molehill of stench called NFF and the administration of football.


If club football can keep these fans glad per time, so be it. Those Playing the club dey rep country well cos System dey.


Anyhowness has a Cost. Someone should just write an expose of how it's been since 2002 in that glass house.

zuchyblink:
NFF President, Ibrahim Gusau has suggested that foreign-born players do not possess the mentality to play African football.

This nonsense talk don start again.


What is so special about African football that it is a standard? This archaic talk should stop coming out of our leaders' mouth. African don smell semis before? We don win World cup before?When last any African team beat top 10 team in World football in a competitive setting? Mtchew

Hiding behind this crap excuse so we don't see that system and leadership is the crux.

daveP:


This nonsense talk don start again.


What is so special about African football that it is a standard? This archaic talk should stop coming out of our leaders' mouth. African don smell semis before? We don win World cup before?When last any African team beat top 10 team in World football in a competitive setting? Mtchew

Hiding behind this crap excuse so we don't see that system and leadership is the crux.

He is just starting, just dey watch

TheSuperNerd:
I disagree with the emboldened...

Nigerian Football's True Glories may have started with the Super Eagles but it surely doesn't end with the Super Eagles.

We have national teams who did exceptionally well this year. We have players who dorned our jerseys and repped with distinction. Are we gonna ignore them just because the Super Eagles lost 5 friendlies in one year?

What about the fact that this same Super Eagles sit top of their Afcon Qualifiers group? We could lean a bit on that.

Now look at this, holistically... in 2022:

- Nigeria's U17 Golden Eaglets won the Wafu B Afcon Qualifiers tournament with distinction. We won all games. We have lads like Emmanuel Michael, Abubakar Abdullahi, Precious Williams, Richard Odoh (GK), Jibril Azeez, Raphael Oyebanjo, Basil Mbata, Ebube Okere, Ozor Okeke, Miracle Ogwor, Yahaya Lawali, Jeremiah Olaleke, Light Eke etc all in that squad of truly talented youngsters.

Are we not gonna recognise them?

- Nigeria's U20 Flying Eagles won the Wafu B Afcon Qualifiers Tournament as well. We won it unbeaten.

The squad includes impressively talented lads like Daniel Daga, Ibrahim Muhammed, Tolulope Ojo, Oluwatosin Adegbite, Nathaniel Nwosu (GK), Ahmed Abdullahi and a few more.

Are we not gonna recognise them?


- Nigeria’s Flamingoes won Bronze at the FIFA U17 WWC becoming the Second African side to bag a medal at that level.
Impressive lasses like Opeyemi Ajakaye, Amina Bello, Edidiong Etim, Miracle Usani, Taiwo Afolabi, Faith Omilana (GK), etc.

Should we ignore them too??


- Our Super Falcons didn't win the Wafcon but we saw Asisat Oshoala earn a Ballon D'or Nomination and ranking this year. When was the last time a Nigerian player man or woman earned that?


I think we should go ahead with the NNFF Awards. We have feats and talents to recognise even in the midst of a bad year in general for the Super Eagles.


Cc Danielnino00, Icon4s.

That's the point.
The awards are not just for the Super Eagles alone. There are also other categories that have to do with Youths and Women football players.

After all Clubs still go ahead and vote for their player of the year irrespective of whether they win any trophy or not.

Me I am getting ready to enjoy the FIFA WC. Sad we are not participating but wetin we go do.

TheSuperNerd:


Whatever the thread decides Dan. It's fine.

Bro if I can “share” twice, I will

Make any awards no hold,no World Cup no award

Moffi no join FB players.

Our problem is coaching..

Any coach that takes over Nigeria also have to review past matches.
By now we should have moved away from using the same tried and failed midfield combinations.

And again, the defense needs a serious look in. Any new coach that comes without reviewing the past will start experimenting with the same players in the biggest leagues.

At the moment the only department that we are okay is the Forward department.. The lack of balance overall is the problem..
I always had my reservations about Peseiro.

Get a proven tactical coach who really understands where Nigeria is coming from and where we want to go.

Mujtahida:

This analysis is just too simplistic as a diagnosis of the problem of our team.

Super Eagles is poor because 90 percent of the players are FB(in you people's mind, FB make up 90% of the team). What sort of nursery school thinking is this?
Ekong
Aina
Bassey
Iwobi
Aribo
Ebuehi
Maduka
Lookman
Moffi
Ajayi
Are FB players.

Moses Simon
Iheanacho
Osimhen
Ndidi
Onyeka
Chukwueze
Bonke
Onuachu
Uzoho
Shehu
Musa
Awaziem
Omeruo
Are the Nigerian born players.

On a given day the team is a fairly balanced mix of both FB and NB. Yet it is the FB who are responsible for our poor footballing fortunes?

So if the team is made up 100% Nigerian players, we will bounce back? I really do not understand this kind of simplistic almost naive narrative.

The one unwavering factor for inclusion in the national team is quality. Not whether you belong to any of the categories of FB or NB.

Fact however is that for many years we realized that owing to the regression of our local teams, our best players are those who ply their trade abroad and even at that it is just basic common sense that you pick your best players from those who play in the best clubs in Europe and elsewhere(if they are the best)

For twist sake, let's do the flops of the year

modified
Or can we just do a Knocking on the Door award for SE?

TheSuperNerd:
I disagree with the emboldened...

Nigerian Football's True Glories may have started with the Super Eagles but it surely doesn't end with the Super Eagles.

We have national teams who did exceptionally well this year. We have players who dorned our jerseys and repped with distinction. Are we gonna ignore them just because the Super Eagles lost 5 friendlies in one year?

What about the fact that this same Super Eagles sit top of their Afcon Qualifiers group? We could lean a bit on that.

Now look at this, holistically... in 2022:

- Nigeria's U17 Golden Eaglets won the Wafu B Afcon Qualifiers tournament with distinction. We won all games. We have lads like Emmanuel Michael, Abubakar Abdullahi, Precious Williams, Richard Odoh (GK), Jibril Azeez, Raphael Oyebanjo, Basil Mbata, Ebube Okere, Ozor Okeke, Miracle Ogwor, Yahaya Lawali, Jeremiah Olaleke, Light Eke etc all in that squad of truly talented youngsters.

Are we not gonna recognise them?

- Nigeria's U20 Flying Eagles won the Wafu B Afcon Qualifiers Tournament as well. We won it unbeaten.

The squad includes impressively talented lads like Daniel Daga, Ibrahim Muhammed, Tolulope Ojo, Oluwatosin Adegbite, Nathaniel Nwosu (GK), Ahmed Abdullahi and a few more.

Are we not gonna recognise them?


- Nigeria’s Flamingoes won Bronze at the FIFA U17 WWC becoming the Second African side to bag a medal at that level.
Impressive lasses like Opeyemi Ajakaye, Amina Bello, Edidiong Etim, Miracle Usani, Taiwo Afolabi, Faith Omilana (GK), etc.

Should we ignore them too??


- Our Super Falcons didn't win the Wafcon but we saw Asisat Oshoala earn a Ballon D'or Nomination and ranking this year. When was the last time a Nigerian player man or woman earned that?


I think we should go ahead with the NNFF Awards. We have feats and talents to recognise even in the midst of a bad year in general for the Super Eagles.


Cc Danielnino00, Icon4s.

me I no understand.. I wan comment during the match I see say chain dey my hands.. I come dey wonder wetin happen.
We need to get it right with our administration for once and give it some time..
These guys at the helm of affairs will guarantee more wasted years. I sorry for the likes of Osimhen.
Even Tomori, Abrahams etc have nothing to regret..

do4luv14:



Even me that correct you howbeit with Germany,
I was just released this morning by the Anti-spam

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