tctrills:


Did you not read the bible when it said that the Word was God? Or did you not read Isaiah call him the Mighty God?

Jesus Christ was the God that led the children of Israel across the wilderness.
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;

2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;

3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.

But Number 23:19 contradicts your point..

God is the creator of heaven and earth...

He can't be part of creation..

It is not possible,...

God is infinite, He is beyond space and time.

Steve Job is the creator of iPhone

He can't be part of iPhone

Steve Job, iPhone charger and iPhone battery are not 1...the trinity doctrine is bull shit and insult against God..

sonmvayina:


But Number 23:19 contradicts your point..

No it doesn't. Read Exodus 15:3

tctrills:

You asked for screenshots.

2 Screenshots from Strong's Concordance for Greek lexicon 1722 (referenced by your quotecosmos website) have given a thorough explanation of the lexicon meaning of your screenshot.
Did you accept their explanation?
You refused and REJECTED the truth explained by Strong's Concordance screenshots evidences

The word "by" ( @Colossians 1:16 referencing Hebrews 1:2, John 1:3 in the screenshots) is a preposition denoting position and INSTRUMENTALITY.

Una say Jesus nah 2nd person, him no be Almighty.
Also, Jesus is an INSTRUMENTALITY of the Almighty Creator.

Shikena.

Janosky:

Oga Tc,You are not honest.
Your quotecosmos website is using info from the Strong's Concordance for Greek 1722 lexicon, the same Source of 2 screenshots i posted & you are throwing tantrums.
Tueh !!!!!

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool


fraud jw janosky

@bold, you keep repeating your same lies over and over again, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


one moment you are laughing like a fool
the next moment you are spitting in disgust:

Jas 1:8  A double minded man is unstable in all his ways

Janosky:


2 Screenshots from Strong's Concordance for Greek lexicon 1722 (referenced by your quotecosmos website) have given a thorough explanation of the lexicon meaning of your screenshot.
Did you accept their explanation?
You refused and REJECTED the truth explained by Strong's Concordance screenshots evidences

The word "by" ( @Colossians 1:16 referencing Hebrews 1:2, John 1:3 in the screenshots) is a preposition denoting position and INSTRUMENTALITY.

Una say Jesus nah 2nd person, him no be Almighty.
Also, Jesus is an INSTRUMENTALITY of the Almighty Creator.

Shikena.

Ok, you are saying you don't believe what I sent you and it is wrong because it does not interpret things the exact way your websites do right?

tctrills:

No it doesn't. Read Exodus 15:3

It does....you giving me another passage means it is not true...
It is not consistent...

sonmvayina:


It does....you giving me another passage means it is not true...
It is not consistent...

how do you mean

tctrills:
how do you mean

For a point to be right...

It has to be true everywhere in the Bible...

Number 23:19 say god is not a man ..that was why he was sending prophets...they where his mouth peice..

sonmvayina:

For a point to be right...
It has to be true everywhere in the Bible...
Number 23:19 say god is not a man ..that was why he was sending prophets...they where his mouth peice..

The title "GOD" simply means SUPREME BEING so when God told Moses:

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee GOD to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Exodus 7:1

This means that at the time Moses lives his words shall be like the authorities of a SUPREME BEING that even the greatest King of his time (Pharaoh of Egypt) must seek Moses's concent before he could have PEACE of mind as King over Egypt!

So when the scriptures say:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1

Misinformed Churchgoers trying to use trinity explained it got it all wrong because Jesus WAS once acting like GOD controlling all the forces of nature, that's why God promised the Israelites that He will send another prophet in the manner of Moses: who served as prophet and God at the same time! Deuteronomy 18:15-19

sonmvayina:


For a point to be right...

It has to be true everywhere in the Bible...

Number 23:19 say god is not a man ..that was why he was sending prophets...they where his mouth peice..

For a point to be right, it doesn't have to be everywhere in the bible. In fact, no one point is everywhere in the bible

tctrills:

For a point to be right, it doesn't have to be everywhere in the bible. In fact, no one point is everywhere in the bible

If Numbers says God is not a man or human being...this point has to be true through out the bible..if somebody says god became man just know the person is lying...

God is the creator of heaven and earth. He is outside of creation. He can't be part of creation. It does not make any sense..

MaxInDHouse:


The title "GOD" simply means SUPREME BEING so when God told Moses:

And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee GOD to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. Exodus 7:1

This means that at the time Moses lives his words shall be like the authorities of a SUPREME BEING that even the greatest King of his time (Pharaoh of Egypt) must seek Moses's concent before he could have PEACE of mind as King over Egypt!

So when the scriptures say:

[s]In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1[/s]

Misinformed Churchgoers trying to use trinity explained it got it all wrong because Jesus WAS once acting like GOD controlling all the forces of nature, that's why God promised the Israelites that He will send another prophet in the manner of Moses: who served as prophet and God at the same time! Deuteronomy 18:15-19
[/s]

New testament is not scriptures...
It is BS

sonmvayina:


If Numbers says God is not a man or human being...this point has to be true through out the bible..if somebody says god became man just know the person is lying...

God is the creator of heaven and earth. He is outside of creation. He can't be part of creation. It does not make any sense..

It's all about context. A verse called God a mighty man in battle. In another verse Christ is the son of Man.So we have enough verses that refer to God as man.

sonmvayina:

New testament is not scriptures...
It is BS

Says you!

tctrills:

It's all about context. A verse called God a mighty man in battle. In another verse Christ is the son of Man.So we have enough verses that refer to God as man.

It is a metaphor....

You no go school,

Stop taking text out of context

MaxInDHouse:


Says you!

Says every scripture scholar..

[quote author=sonmvayina post=118524539]

It is a metaphor....

You no go school,

Stop taking text out of context [/quote
Just because you call it a metaphor does not make it a metaphor.
Since you claim to go to school, can you tell how to identify metaphors in the English language?

[quote author=tctrills post=118524590][/quote]

Bible has already told you that God is not a man.
The writters used human attribute to describe God most times..just so you can have an idea.

The bible is an oracle...not history

It is a spiritual manual not history textbook.

sonmvayina:


Bible has already told you that God is not a man.
The writters used human attribute to describe God most times..just so you can have an idea.

The bible is an oracle...not history

It is a spiritual manual not history textbook.

Please answer the above question. You seem to be repeating you arguments.

sonmvayina:

Says every scripture scholar..

Scripture scholars that can't come up with anything presentable as proof that they're worshiping God unitedly!

I bow for Jesus, who said:

"Whoever is not on my side is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters" Luke 11:23

None outside Jesus' organized people can come up with something worthwhile in relation to what God promised in the scriptures they will only argue and argue and argue with no visible WORKS of FAITH! James 2:26

sonmvayina:


Bible has already told you that God is not a man.
The writters used human attribute to describe God most times..just so you can have an idea.

The bible is an oracle...not history

It is a spiritual manual not history textbook.

Jesus Christ called himself the son of Man. If Jesus Christ told you he is the son of man then where is your argument?

tctrills:

Jesus Christ called himself the son of Man. If Jesus Christ told you he is the son of man then where is your argument?

He did not tell me..

The authors said he said it.....

The author never met jesus or any one that has met him.
He was just writing a fictional story...He ner said he believed his story or how the story affected his life..

Why should I bother myself.

I only follow the laws of my creator..

tctrills:

Please answer the above question. You seem to be repeating you arguments.

Which questions?

sonmvayina:


He did not tell me..

The authors said he said it.....

The author never met jesus or any one that has met him.
He was just writing a fictional story...He ner said he believed his story or how the story affected his life..

Why should I bother myself.

I only follow the laws of my creator..

Now you are clearly confused. If you believe the bible is frictional then all your formal arguments were uncalled for.
Your only purpose was to waste my time.

tctrills:

Now you are clearly confused. If you believe the bible is frictional then all your formal arguments were uncalled for.
Your only purpose was to waste my time.

I said the bible is an oracle..

You read it and learn the message in it...

It is not a history textbook...

sonmvayina:

I said the bible is an oracle..

You read it and learn the message in it...

It is not a history textbook...

Alright, good your opinion. We really had nothing to argue about.

tctrills:

Alright, good your opinion. We really had nothing to argue about.

Lol..I asked the people that owns it and that was the answer I got..

So I think I am right..

sonmvayina:


Lol..I asked the people that owns it and that was the answer I got..

So I think I am right..

I don't know what you are taking about when you say the people that own it. But then in an argument, everyone believes he is right.

tctrills:

I don't know what you are taking about when you say the people that own it. But then in an argument, everyone believes he is right.

The Tanakh belongs to the Jews.

Try making friends with one..


He will open your eyes...

sonmvayina:


The Tanakh belongs to the Jews.

Try making friends with one..


He will open your eyes...

You are wrong again.
Making friends with a Jew is completely unnecessary.
The bible does not belong to them. It's an open source for everyone.
The bible was written by the ancestors of the present Jews. This does not give the present Jews any more insight than anyone.
It's just like asking the descendants of slavery what it felt like to walk on a Cotton field in Georgia.
Just because your ancestors had an experience don't not give you greater understanding.
My grandfather was a traditional worshipper yet I know next to nothing about his religion.

tctrills:

You are wrong again.
Making friends with a Jew is completely unnecessary.
The bible does not belong to them. It's an open source for everyone.
The bible was written by the ancestors of the present Jews. This does not give the present Jews any more insight than anyone.
It's just like asking the descendants of slavery what it felt like to walk on a Cotton field in Georgia.
Just because your ancestors had an experience don't not give you greater understanding.
My grandfather was a traditional worshipper yet I know next to nothing about his religion.

If you see me interpreting your grand father's religion to somebody else and see your brother doing the same, who do you think will be nearer to the true interpretation?