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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 12:59pm On Nov 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Don't say that. We are here to learn. I was just trying to point out that you can find quality from low leagues. The likes of Mane, Haaland, and Vardy were not harvested in the top leagues. They were spotted outside the quality leagues.

We should not just hinge our radar on top leagues when we have a chance of spotting quality talents with a more comprehensive scouting strategy.

Footballing upsets is one of the proof that you can find talents from lower spots.
No doubt you are right sir, of course that is so true, another example is the Kvara dude playing with Napoli. But what some of us are saying is that data gathering as Mr. Zuchini was trying to do should never be one sided or biased.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:03pm On Nov 23, 2022
African teams are yet to score at the ongoing WC. Hopefully that will change soon. I suspect Ghana may break the trend even though they will lose to Portugal.

Cameroun plays first tomorrow but I'm not so confident in them doing so but then, they also could if things click in the final third for them.


Meanwhile, The North African teams have played with bonafide purpose and true tactical understanding. Kudos to Tunisia and especially my 2nd Favourite African side, The Atlas Lions of Morocco. Well done lads although 20 y/o Elzzalzouli showed his inexperienced in attacking transitions. Talented but decision making still needs lots of work.


Icon79, it seems it is the North African teams who you tagged sissies that are playing the better football and getting decent results among African sides so far.



Up next Tomorrow: Cameroun vs Switzerland AND Ghana vs Portugal.


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:05pm On Nov 23, 2022
That's my man. Forget Mendy. Forget Onana. Bonou is the safest hands on the continent. wink

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Ppogbae:
What a save by Bounou!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by caprikon: 1:10pm On Nov 23, 2022
This world cup presents an opportunity for CAF to make a legitimate claim for the more slots in the expanded 2026 mundial.

These Mahgreb teams are doing better than expected probably because Qatar feels like home.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:13pm On Nov 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I don't understand your point. We just saw minnows like Australia have a go at one of the best sides in the game. I made my comment before Australia scored. Watching the ball finish and commenting is easy. I am talking about philosophy and play.

Australia's problem has to do with stamina. They ran out of steam in the first half and could not press. Then the French outran them. Now the coach of Australia needs to work on pressing stamina and build from there.

While us, we park the bus. There is no room for growth. So I know why I commented. If you know about me, it is not about the results. That is why it is not about "watch the ball finish".

You look at things with rose tinted glasses and overly optimistic your too subjective not objective.

Australia had zero pace compared to France on the physicality side they were left in the dark. Add to that technical ability, and far better players.

France didn't get out of fitst gear it was a training session for them. Meanwhile Australia parked the bus and just were completely out of their depth.

You are completely misleading with your view I cannot even call it analysis.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:18pm On Nov 23, 2022
codemaniacs:


Ejuke is more direct. I will prefer lookman or Awoniyi to play Aribo's position.

Tella can come on at halftime for Ejuke. But since his young NFF won't even invite him.. I see him as a succession plan so for me he has to be invited as soon as possible and given game time of at least 30 - 90 mins per match

Ejuke is not more direct he is is the quintessential African player, steeped in entertainment football lots of unnecessary dribbling and limited end product.

Nathan Tella and Ademola Lookman are way ahead of him. The same thing affects Chukwueze to some degree.

Ejuke I hope has learned in the Bundisliga that defence is as important as attack and puts in a good level of defensive contribution.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 1:19pm On Nov 23, 2022
activities2:
Currently osimhen is bigger than man utd

I think you are in a different world.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 1:22pm On Nov 23, 2022
andrewbaba44:
Morocco did well

Croatia is not that good

Yesterday Tunisia will finish this Croatia

You see all these teams you just mentioned, Nigeria would've lost to them

Whether we dey same group or not

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 1:28pm On Nov 23, 2022
Blueelf:


You see all these teams you just mentioned, Nigeria would've lost to them

Whether we dey same group or not

Nigeria would have been respecting modric in the midfield as per senior man wey him be

Morocco midfielders give Modric and kovacic hot hot

If they have a striker like osimhen ,they would have won Croatia

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 1:28pm On Nov 23, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
That's my man. Forget Mendy. Forget Onana. Bonou is the safest hands on the continent. wink

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Bonou is class
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 1:31pm On Nov 23, 2022
komekn:


Ejuke is not more direct he is is the quintessential African player, steeped in entertainment football lots of unnecessary dribbling and limited end product.

Nathan Tella and Ademola Lookman are way ahead of him. The same thing affects Chukwueze to some degree.

Ejuke I hope has learned in the Bundisliga that defence is as important as attack and puts in a good level of defensive contribution.

Ejuke is not steeped in entertainment football.. he creates chances and assists and that's what S.E needs on the wings especially the LW.. Tella and Lookman are not ahead of him.. Lookman turned to a ghost against Portugal... Tella hasn't played for the S.E yet so I can't judge him...

if Chukwueze was affected by such then he may have scored against Portugal because all he had to do when he was one on one apart from shoot was move the ball to his left or do a feint and dribble the keeper and score or lob the keeper...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 1:42pm On Nov 23, 2022
Dear NFF Caretakers:

I implore all of you to watch the Croatia vs Morocco match.

Please pay particular attention to Morocco in the 1st half and focus on how they held the midfield hostage!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 1:44pm On Nov 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


18': Australia defending in a 4-4-2 shape when out of possession, the Aussies have been brilliant thus far. France are picking up the pace.

You can see, France was picking up after receiving some brilliant plays from the Aussies. Those minutes are worth watching again.

Bros I reject any initial gra gra football for super eagle's... they just started by flexing muscles they couldn't uphold...it's peculiar with underdog teams playing against giants ....they start by firing on all cylinders then later fizzle out with time
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 1:47pm On Nov 23, 2022
andrewbaba44:

Dem no Dey allow game go far before them begin cap

No mind them

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 1:49pm On Nov 23, 2022
Blacks are slowly taking over these European teams. It'll be interesting to see the composition of these teams in 2030.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:50pm On Nov 23, 2022
minfelix:


Bros I reject any initial gra gra football for super eagle's... they just started by flexing muscles they couldn't uphold...it's peculiar with underdog teams playing against giants ....they start by firing on all cylinders then later fizzle out with time

I actually think it played out with the Coach of the Aussies reading the game plan of France and attacking it. However, a switch in tactics and also loss of stamina played a part in the dismantling. The Aussies did not just play but we're better in tactics and strategy.

The point is that an Underdog can pull up a good show and even beat top teams.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:53pm On Nov 23, 2022
komekn:


You look at things with rose tinted glasses and overly optimistic your too subjective not objective.

Australia had zero pace compared to France on the physicality side they were left in the dark. Add to that technical ability, and far better players.

France didn't get out of fitst gear it was a training session for them. Meanwhile Australia parked the bus and just were completely out of their depth.

You are completely misleading with your view I cannot even call it analysis.


It was not a training session stuff. The French team were totally outclassed and the press of the Aussies took away their build up play. It took some reorganization and also the Aussies losing steam to crush them.

He French never planned or expected to be outclassed and go down a goal in such manner. On the whole, it shows a top side with better organization and tactics can plug holes in the French team.

You can attack the point without attacking the person.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:59pm On Nov 23, 2022
AndSunGorilla:

No doubt you are right sir, of course that is so true, another example is the Kvara dude playing with Napoli. But what some of us are saying is that data gathering as Mr. Zuchini was trying to do should never be one sided or biased.

Why my point is that, does the idea of biased data play a role in this case?

The point is, you can find gems in poor leagues. And, these matches show that small teams can produce quality players to cause upsets.

So telling us that a top side beat a poor side does not defeat the argument.

That is like me saying you can find some quality players in the Championship and then another saying it is biased because there are many players not up to top quality in the Championship.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by minfelix(m): 2:00pm On Nov 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I actually think it played out with the Coach of the Aussies reading the game plan of France and attacking it. However, a switch in tactics and also loss of stamina played a part in the dismantling. The Aussies did not just play but we're better in tactics and strategy.

The point is that an Underdog can pull up a good show and even beat top teams.

Let's jus hope we build a team with good tactics qnd winning formula.... the Australian team play will never sink down well with Nigerian fans..never
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:09pm On Nov 23, 2022
minfelix:


Let's jus hope we build a team with good tactics qnd winning formula.... the Australian team play will never sink down well with Nigerian fans..never

I totally disagree with the notion of brilliant play not sinking down with Nigerian fans. Maybe the new age fans but historically, we are known for playing good football.

When you think of players like Mobi Oparakwu, Celestine Babayaro, Finidi George, Sunday Oliseh, Kanu Nwankwo, Jay Jay Okocha in a starting eleven. These players played with intelligence and flair. We for a long time played with intelligence and bravery. Sometimes I wonder how this negative play crept into our football.

The likes of Taribo, Finidi, Peter Rufai for instance played under a master possession tactician at young age and the Sharks Stadium then used to be jam packed with thrilled fans.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ppogbae: 2:09pm On Nov 23, 2022
I remember the Germany of 2002 - 2014 vividly. Seeing them play like this is so depressing. What happened mehn??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by codemaniacs: 2:56pm On Nov 23, 2022
Ppogbae:
I remember the Germany of 2002 - 2014 vividly. Seeing them play like this is so depressing. What happened mehn??

other countries are catching up...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 2:58pm On Nov 23, 2022
TheSuperNerd:
That's my man. Forget Mendy. Forget Onana. Bonou is the safest hands on the continent. wink

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What about Uzoho shocked
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 3:19pm On Nov 23, 2022
That Musiala boy is good, thanks to TSN, Chriskels and the great man (Tbaba1234) and other guys here who first spotted him, But no way Germany would have let him slip as pointed out here.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chic2pimp(m): 3:32pm On Nov 23, 2022
AndSunGorilla:
That Musiala boy is good, thanks to TSN, Chriskels and the great man (Tbaba1234) and other guys here who first spotted him, But no way Germany would have let him slip as pointed out here.

Nigeria had no chance of getting Jamal to play for them tbh. England had Him on lock since He was 15(Him and Bellingham played together)but unfortunately He decided to represent His country of birth.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 3:45pm On Nov 23, 2022
caprikon:
This world cup presents an opportunity for CAF to make a legitimate claim for the moew slots in the expanded 2026 mundial.

These Margreb teams are doing better than expected probably because Qatar feels like home.
Africa has already been awarded 9 slots

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 3:45pm On Nov 23, 2022
Very well but they also lack that quality forward who would have helped them get past the Croats.

I disagree on the Tunisia beating Croatia bit. If they struggled against a Denmark team that even Ghana defeated I doubt they would have done anything.

*modified* My bad mistook Switzerland for Denmark but overall point of my post still stands

andrewbaba44:
Morocco did well

Croatia is not that good

Yesterday Tunisia will finish this Croatia

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 3:48pm On Nov 23, 2022
Japan doing the lord’s work cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:48pm On Nov 23, 2022
chrisooblog:
Very well but they also lack that quality forward who would have helped them get past the Croats.

I disagree on the Tunisia beating Croatia bit. If they struggled against a Swiss team that even Ghana defeated I doubt they would have done anything.


The Tunisia I saw yesterday against a better danish team will beat Croatia
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 3:49pm On Nov 23, 2022
charlesemeka85:
Japan doing the lord’s work cheesy

grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 3:51pm On Nov 23, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I totally disagree with the notion of brilliant play not sinking down with Nigerian fans. Maybe the new age fans but historically, we are known for playing good football.

When you think of players like Mobi Oparakwu, Celestine Babayaro, Finidi George, Sunday Oliseh, Kanu Nwankwo, Jay Jay Okocha in a starting eleven. These players played with intelligence and flair. We for a long time played with intelligence and bravery. Sometimes I wonder how this negative play crept into our football.

The likes of Taribo, Finidi, Peter Rufai for instance played under a master possession tactician at young age and the Sharks Stadium then used to be jam packed with thrilled fans.

That is the problem. The way we destroyed our league is the greatest problem of Nigerian football.
Amaju pinnick actually destroyed the Nigerian league so when he was campaigning for local players in the national team he was not been sincere.
We need to develop the npfl again

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 3:52pm On Nov 23, 2022
Ppogbae:
Blacks are slowly taking over these European teams. It'll be interesting to see the composition of these teams in 2030.
Unpopular opinion: European teams with so many Africans in them appear not to be European to me.

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