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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 5:46pm On Nov 28, 2022
Just40:
The game is not about whose first time coaching... It's about the players playing on the field and whether they have played together before competitively to know each other way if playing.

When you're defending, it's a very difficult thing to make that transition and again your opponent can use the open spaces you've left to punish you.
The coach plan worked except for the transitions to catch Portugal on the counter offensive which A.Ayew couldn't make because he didn't have speed and we didn't concede in the first half of the game, that is a plus for Ghana because it would have killed spirit.
Out midfield played well and so did defense

But you were making a weak excuse for your coach, Addo, saying this is his first competitive tournament and now that I counter it using Morocco's Walid you are now backtracking saying it is not about who coaches first. Oga, stop the merry-go-round.



And in that game vs Portugal in the first half. Your Midfield was not your Midfield. You all played defence. Your Midfield couldn't even recycle the ball that well to create opportunities for vertical transitions. So your Midfield was empty in that first half. All you guys did was hold the ball and kick it out or lose it almost immediately and swiftly regroup for another Defensive phase in-game.

So whatever you call Addo's plan wasn't even much of a plan because he didn't even plan to attack them in that half. He didn't risk it. His goal was to keep Portugal off the scoreboard and trust me, that is not rocket science.

Parking the bus in Ultra negative fashion is not tactical Masterclass.

Even today, You guys got outplayed and out-shot by the Koreans. You were just lucky thanks to Kudus' brilliance and Korea's profligacy in front of goal. The stats graphics below proves my point.

Even the xG for both teams shows how lucky you were today.

Addo is just grinding out close call results with predominantly negative football. Simple.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 5:55pm On Nov 28, 2022
Swiss team are having some lovely passes but no bite. Too much recycling. Loving the passing accuracy of their fullbacks.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PDPGuy: 5:55pm On Nov 28, 2022
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TheSuperNerd:


Suarez to Nunez: "Say wetin? Bia Darwin, We aren't gonna let that happen. Lo entiendes??"

Nunez: Sure Boss. Me na werey naa...

Suarez: Good Lad. Awon Werey 100% Forever!!! grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel10: 6:06pm On Nov 28, 2022
Anybody who watched the second half of Ghana v. Korea knows that Ghana didn't deserve that win. They just got reeally lucky.

In terms of tactics and playing abilities, the Koreans trumped them 100%. They cut through the Ghanaians at will like a hot knife through butter.

But that is football for you. Sometimes luck makes all the difference.

Otto Addo is just like Eguavoen at the AFCON. Bang average coach riding on favourable circumstances and forming Boss grin

Until Addo meets a tactically well-drilled side with a bit of luck on their side. Fowl nyash go open.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Ogochuks101: 6:12pm On Nov 28, 2022
Hate to say this but Brazil is missing Neymar
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:44pm On Nov 28, 2022
Yes that's obvious but My Brazillian boys just scored a beautiful team move goal. Swift, sweet penetrative passing interchanges and BAM! 1-0 up.

Ogochuks101:
Hate to say this but Brazil is missing Neymar

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Pidginwhisper: 6:57pm On Nov 28, 2022
imagine a player of Akanji Caliber holding our defense together . Man was everywhere and was able to contained the Brazilian forwards. We no get players aje, na past glory dey carry us.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 7:06pm On Nov 28, 2022
joelsteron:
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What did that guy smoke? We were the most entertaining team at AFCON! Even Sadio Mane talked about the quality of our football. Most of you here will be mad if the Super Eagles is playing like the Ghanaians.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 7:08pm On Nov 28, 2022
Oshimen, Iwobi, Chukweze and Lookman would have really shinned at this World Cup. Quite unfortunate!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 7:12pm On Nov 28, 2022
Mane sabi ball

fabyom:
What did that guy smoke? We were the most entertaining team at AFCON! Even Sadio Mane talked about the quality of our football. Most of you here will be mad if the Super Eagles is playing like the Ghanaians.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 7:14pm On Nov 28, 2022
Maybe we were. But if you want to be that entertaining, your coaching crew better have some tactical depth. Flamboyant play should be first a luxury.
fabyom:
What did that guy smoke? We were the most entertaining team at AFCON! Even Sadio Mane talked about the quality of our football. Most of you here will be mad if the Super Eagles is playing like the Ghanaians.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 7:17pm On Nov 28, 2022
Is that not why most of you guys called for Rohr sack?
benji93:
Maybe we were. But if you want to be that entertaining, your coaching crew better have some tactical depth. Flamboyant play should be first a luxury.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PurpleHouse(m): 7:20pm On Nov 28, 2022
fabyom:
What did that guy smoke? We were the most entertaining team at AFCON! Even Sadio Mane talked about the quality of our football. Most of you here will be mad if the Super Eagles is playing like the Ghanaians.

We get players, just that they're not matured. Too much big man "I Don arrive" mentality. That's the problem. In our WC qualifier, only Osimhen was running riots, the rest were strolling like abeg e nor concern us. But you see the Ghanaians, everytime they play, they play like it's do or die. Until we have that same mindset, we go nowhere.

One of the African team in this WC will win the next afcon. Unless we shake up our team. We have no chance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 7:27pm On Nov 28, 2022
Rohr was just a terrible coach. I don't think it had anything to do with playing entertaining football. At a point, Rohr's tactics were looking more like the typical Nigerian's. cheesy grin. I mean if that's the best we could get, why not go pick a local coach, at least I know what I am getting, even though there's that hope that one of them turns out to be the odd one.
fabyom:
Is that not why most of you guys called for Rohr sack?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:33pm On Nov 28, 2022
Blueelf:
I told someone that the highest stage Brazil will get to is the QF

This Brazilian team are not impressive at all

Even with Newmarket, they are jot getting past the QF

Damn! Your autocorrect gave you "Newmarket" instead of Neymar?? grin

Elfy, I will have Nurse Nkechi call you soon. Be in expectation. wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by fabyom: 7:33pm On Nov 28, 2022
How many did the Ghanaians beat us?
They were just lucky and it happens sometimes.
Their goal keeper made two to three crucial saves while ours fumbled at the crucial moment.
Nothing do or die about their game.
Infact, I am dissapointed at their negative football.

How can you allow that much crosses and corner kicks into your 18?
How can you allow the Koreans to play you like that?
Against a team like Uruguay they would get punished.
I know the coach would revert to 5 at the back against Uruguay. Pure negative football.


PurpleHouse:


We get players, just that they're not matured. Too much big man "I Don arrive" mentality. That's the problem. In our WC qualifier, only Osimhen was running riots, the rest were strolling like abeg e nor concern us. But you see the Ghanaians, everytime they play, they play like it's do or die. Until we have that same mindset, we go nowhere.

One of the African team in this WC will win the next afcon. Unless we shake up our team. We have no chance.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 7:50pm On Nov 28, 2022
Ghana will have to prepare extra hard for their next match. hope Addo is watching the PORURU match sha

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 8:03pm On Nov 28, 2022
Perfect illustration of As e dey pain Dem, e dey sweet us..as e dey sweet us, e dey pain Dem

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:13pm On Nov 28, 2022
To Understand why we must insist on better for the SE, look at Brazil today... got the result but there are questions.

The Super Eagles have a fine pool of talented players, some of which form the present core of the team and some of which are yet to be properly integrated into the team.

On our day, even with the issues we currently parade as a team, we can produce really fine moments of football down majorly to individual brilliance of the talents on display.

But you see, outside the administrative brouhaha, we have 2 major issues with our team:

▶️- A coaching problem.

▶️- A Playing Personnel Problem based on Tactical-Technical balance as a team.


When I speak about our midfield and defensive issues, and most especially our midfield, I do it knowing for a fact that addressing it thoroughly will lead to positive changes in our plays from A-Z, from defence to attack.

There is magic we can produce if we pick right from thoroughly tactical and technical standpoints with respect to how we can play and how flexible we can become across various tactical formations.




Look at Brazil today, they won and their goal was special. But are they satisfied? Are they feeling invincible after today's result? Answers to both is NO.

All over social media, several of their brightest and staunchest analysts and followers of brazillian football are saying Tite is doing them a disservice by sticking with "Conservative" Fred instead of Bruno Guimaraes from the start.

With Neymar, their first XI is a balanced one. Casemiro pairing Paqueta in midfield and Neymar roaming in front of them as a free playing CAM.

Once Neymar got injured, Tite had a decision to make and it seems he reverted to his Conservative selection, one which makes Brazil fans and analysts feel really disoriented coz they feel Tite isn't being honest with the selections especially with respect to the balance of their plays. And I agree with them. Bruno Guimaraes offers more going forward than Fred. He is far more forward thinking from midfield than Fred.


Now Fred today is even a better midfield player on the ball than our highest rated midfield player in Europe, Wilfred Ndidi but look at how he is being rightly analysed as the man not suited to start in Brazil's XI in Neymar's absence alongside Paqueta and Casemiro.


My point is this: Brazillian fans, analysts and keen followers are not satisfied despite their win today. They know how they should play. They know the level their team can operate at. They noticed a drop in their intense creative plays.

This is the same mindset with which I analyse the Super Eagles. I know how better we can be if we pick right and if we are coached right.

It is not always about results. It is first about having and establishing that team balance from tactical and technical standpoints.

Achieve that and the results will follow in the long run.

We are in this for long term success not short term hypes.

Right now, we are just a team of players picked because one plays in Serie A and another in the EPL. Noooo... it should be beyond that. We should be a team of tactically-synced warriors and technically balanced-oriented players, brains and brawns in perfect mix led by a truly tactically flexible mastermind.


In time, I hope we can get it right and stop deluding ourselves.

To the near future.... wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:32pm On Nov 28, 2022
codemaniacs:


Because they don't train on how to keep possession and players holding the ball for long and the players aren't good ball handlers..

I disagree.

First of all the national team is not where you learn anything the time is very limited and too short.

You are selected because of what you already have from your club and league where you play day in day out all season long. This is where you spend 99% of your footballing life .

So if you haven't learned in your club you will not learn it in the short time you have in the national team.

A good cosch will look at individual player attributes, experiences, capacity and ability then fuse turn into a team with a clear cut strategic vision and plan.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:34pm On Nov 28, 2022
TheSuperNerd:


Damn! Your autocorrect gave you "Newmarket" instead of Neymar?? grin

Elfy, I will have Nurse Nkechi call you soon. Be in expectation. wink

You are a mad man

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:36pm On Nov 28, 2022
Pidginwhisper:
imagine a player of Akanji Caliber holding our defense together . Man was everywhere and was able to contained the Brazilian forwards. We no get players aje, na past glory dey carry us.

This is the bitter truth that most don't want to face .

We think we are way better than we actually are, when you accept your limited abilities then you find a way to utilize what you have to get the best results.

Instead we get delusional.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Blueelf: 8:36pm On Nov 28, 2022
Please who saw the trending Picture of that shameless he-goat called Amaju Pinnick sitting down with football greats

That man is the reason our football went down the drain like refuse trash

It shall never be well with all enemies of Nigeria

Amen

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 8:40pm On Nov 28, 2022
This Portugal side is too complacent. It's the reason they conceded 2 goals against Ghana. No be say the Ghanaian side is good. Their defensive line/shape just goes to sleep. Maybe they think all we need to do is outscore you. cheesy grin. You can think that, but make sure Uruguay doesn't go ahead.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:45pm On Nov 28, 2022
Philosopher1979:


I disagree with you.
Football academies to the rescue.
Our football academies are producing players everyday.
So we won't lack quality players.
We just need a good coach and we will be alright.
If we lacked quality players then I will be scared. We just have to get over this coaching issue.
The only aspect of our football that needs time is our local league and efforts are been made in that direction

Which football academies are you talking about
please , and how many quality players have they produced ❓

Quality is a very relative term, what is a quality footballer in Nigeria and what is a quality football ⚽ player in Brazil will be totally different.

It's on this forum that people will be flogging a dead horse of a player after 8 years and be calling him exceptional talent because he came from an academy in Nigeria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:51pm On Nov 28, 2022
Blueelf:
Please who saw the trending Picture of that shameless he-goat called Amaju Pinnick sitting down with football greats

That man is the reason our football went down the drain like refuse trash

It shall never be well with all enemies of Nigeria

Amen


Amaju is Nigerian politician who found himself by hook and crook the NFF President.

He is no different or any better than any of our soaked in corruption self seeking in politicians.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:00pm On Nov 28, 2022
damagnificentusb:
The Uruguay team aren't as they used to be. Tbh I think Ghana can get the needed result in this game( Uruguay game)
Argentina is to Nigeria what Uruguay will be to Ghana

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:01pm On Nov 28, 2022
Ogochuks101:
The match between Ghana vs Uruguay will be bloody. The 2010 quarter final clash between those teams is still fresh in our memories. Ghana to revenge?
Such matches end up being blasé
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:08pm On Nov 28, 2022
Curtisaxel10:
Anybody who watched the second half of Ghana v. Korea knows that Ghana didn't deserve that win. They just got reeally lucky.

In terms of tactics and playing abilities, the Koreans trumped them 100%. They cut through the Ghanaians at will like a hot knife through butter.

But that is football for you. Sometimes luck makes all the difference.

Otto Addo is just like Eguavoen at the AFCON. Bang average coach riding on favourable circumstances and forming Boss grin

Until Addo meets a tactically well-drilled side with a bit of luck on their side. Fowl nyash go open.

Let it open. It will open. I am expecting it to open. Me I no dey do African brother. Ghana akwaaba awaits you all in Accra.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 9:13pm On Nov 28, 2022
Yes I do agree that we shouldn't look at things from a short term perspective. That said, football is short term for most players especially in the NT. Players lose form, get old or get career ending injuries. Yes we do have issues with our midfield and defence but my belief is that a good coach would be able to use the current regulars we have to achieve good results. And to Addo, yes, he plays negative football, but because of the short-term nature of the sports for both coaches and players, short term gains and results speak extremely loud!!! The Greek team that won the Euros way back then making little Ronaldo cry, played negative football but that feat alone is etched in history for the Greeks. Chelsea played negative footie when they won their champions league but that didn't diminish the ecstacy the agbero attracting club felt.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 9:13pm On Nov 28, 2022
fabyom:
Oshimen, Iwobi, Chukweze and Lookman would have really shinned at this World Cup. Quite unfortunate!
Na lie. Nigerian football is drab, too slow and lacking in energy. We make too much noise and then end up going only so far as the 2nd round. If we had qualified, there's probability that we'd be knocked out first round. I'm not being negative. I'm speaking from a historical point of view. For all our noise, we do not have a great world cup record.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 9:15pm On Nov 28, 2022
Mujtahida:

Let it open. It will open. I am expecting it to open. Me I no dey do African brother. Ghana akwaaba awaits you all in Accra.
Comot dia!!!! My people's big bakassi go shake wella but e no go open now grin

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