Elnino9:
Ghana won't make it past the group stage.....its a sure banker

Why are yall actin pained? Like, this guys played pretty well against Portugal compared to what the SE even did, I don't believe the present SE could even beat South Korea but most of the concern here is about Ghana losing.

elyte89:



If we re still making reference to a 94 team in dis present 2022,den it shows aw bad d present football administration is in Nigeria...we re not doing something right from d management down to d team (coaches and players)

Exactly. Anytime we get to talk about football, we always put the 1994 team as the standard, while growing up we even thought that team won the world cup the way it was always glorified. I think people glorify just because it was our first world cup.

Sport administration in Nigeria is a farce. It is just a thriving black market.

fabyom:
How many did the Ghanaians beat us?
They were just lucky and it happens sometimes.
Their goal keeper made two to three crucial saves while ours fumbled at the crucial moment.
Nothing do or die about their game.
Infact, I am dissapointed at their negative football.

How can you allow that much crosses and corner kicks into your 18?
How can you allow the Koreans to play you like that?
Against a team like Uruguay they would get punished.
I know the coach would revert to 5 at the back against Uruguay. Pure negative football.

Relax ghana played same Portugal that beat my
Grand daddy 4-0

And showed the reason why they qualified ahead of us

TheSuperNerd:
To Understand why we must insist on better for the SE, look at Brazil today... got the result but there are questions.

The Super Eagles have a fine pool of talented players, some of which form the present core of the team and some of which are yet to be properly integrated into the team.

On our day, even with the issues we currently parade as a team, we can produce really fine moments of football down majorly to individual brilliance of the talents on display.

But you see, outside the administrative brouhaha, we have 2 major issues with our team:

▶️- A coaching problem.

▶️- A Playing Personnel Problem based on Tactical-Technical balance as a team.


When I speak about our midfield and defensive issues, and most especially our midfield, I do it knowing for a fact that addressing it thoroughly will lead to positive changes in our plays from A-Z, from defence to attack.

There is magic we can produce if we pick right from thoroughly tactical and technical standpoints with respect to how we can play and how flexible we can become across various tactical formations.




Look at Brazil today, they won and their goal was special. But are they satisfied? Are they feeling invincible after today's result? Answers to both is NO.

All over social media, several of their brightest and staunchest analysts and followers of brazillian football are saying Tite is doing them a disservice by sticking with "Conservative" Fred instead of Bruno Guimaraes from the start.

With Neymar, their first XI is a balanced one. Casemiro pairing Paqueta in midfield and Neymar roaming in front of them as a free playing CAM.

Once Neymar got injured, Tite had a decision to make and it seems he reverted to his Conservative selection, one which makes Brazil fans and analysts feel really disoriented coz they feel Tite isn't being honest with the selections especially with respect to the balance of their plays. And I agree with them. Bruno Guimaraes offers more going forward than Fred. He is far more forward thinking from midfield than Fred.


Now Fred today is even a better midfield player on the ball than our highest rated midfield player in Europe, Wilfred Ndidi but look at how he is being rightly analysed as the man not suited to start in Brazil's XI in Neymar's absence alongside Paqueta and Casemiro.


My point is this: Brazillian fans, analysts and keen followers are not satisfied despite their win today. They know how they should play. They know the level their team can operate at. They noticed a drop in their intense creative plays.

This is the same mindset with which I analyse the Super Eagles. I know how better we can be if we pick right and if we are coached right.

It is not always about results. It is first about having and establishing that team balance from tactical and technical standpoints.

Achieve that and the results will follow in the long run.

We are in this for long term success not short term hypes.

Right now, we are just a team of players picked because one plays in Serie A and another in the EPL. Noooo... it should be beyond that. We should be a team of tactically-synced warriors and technically balanced-oriented players, brains and brawns in perfect mix led by a truly tactically flexible mastermind.


In time, I hope we can get it right and stop deluding ourselves.

To the near future....

What’s the long term plan ?

Recruiting abroad born players or promoting homebase players to the national team and they’ll do well and sign to a back water league and we’ll never hear of them again.

This way still keeping this same core of failure since 2017 bunch of failures for over a decade now and you dare to say we’re making progress? Or we have plans for the future.

We change coaches every other day, our boys only trained together 3 times or less in a year, before you know the team sheet is switched again and they’re playing against new faces.

There’s no long term plan with super eagles, what we’re doing is mixing the young and bright stars together to form a golden generation there’s no backup plan aside from that na

yinkeys:

Modern Brazil team can’t do much without Neymar
However I think G. Jesus should fill that role behind the striker because he drops back a lot

2002 Brazil team is the best squad their country ever produced.
It had 4 ballon d’or winners in there
Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho & Kaka.

I can also remember Cafu, Roberto Carlos in that squad.

Jesus can't play behind the striker. Don't let the way he plays at arsenal confuse you.

komekn:


I disagree.

First of all the national team is not where you learn anything the time is very limited and too short.

You are selected because of what you already have from your club and league where you play day in day out all season long. This is where you spend 99% of your footballing life .

So if you haven't learned in your club you will not learn it in the short time you have in the national team.

A good cosch will look at individual player attributes, experiences, capacity and ability then fuse turn into a team with a clear cut strategic vision and plan.

Paul onuachu coaches and teammates knows how he operates and plays

But with super eagles he’s considered a failure

Tell me who’s fault is that on why he has so little impact on se

The coach
His teammates
Or himself

benji93:
This Portugal side is too complacent. It's the reason they conceded 2 goals against Ghana. No be say the Ghanaian side is good. Their defensive line/shape just goes to sleep. Maybe they think all we need to do is outscore you. . You can think that, but make sure Uruguay doesn't go ahead.

Beht you no fit score 1

Philosopher1979:


I disagree with you.
Football academies to the rescue.
Our football academies are producing players everyday.
So we won't lack quality players.
We just need a good coach and we will be alright.
If we lacked quality players then I will be scared. We just have to get over this coaching issue.
The only aspect of our football that needs time is our local league and efforts are been made in that direction

Don’t kid yourself academies players are running rampant in Npfl

But to still watch Npfl Match is a eyesore

typicalgamer:


Relax ghana played same Portugal that beat my
Grand daddy 4-0

And showed the reason why they qualified ahead of us

That doesn't show why they qualified ahead of the S.E...

You're like many others on this thread are under-estimating how strong African countries are and how strong the top 15 CAF teams are.. most of the teams that have faced African countries have struggled to get results and work really hard to get anything from the match....

African teams just have to work on their strikers and chance creation opportunities..

This world cup has shown me that African teams are strong and only poor coaching is holding them back...

fabyom:
And no African team has won the world cup yet. Winning the trophy is all that matters right?

Not all that matters but if outsiders are asked to mention the best world cup performance by an African team. Most would pick Ghana(2010), Senegal (2002), Cameroon (1990) before thinking of the super eagles.

elyte89:



If we re still making reference to a 94 team in dis present 2022,den it shows aw bad d present football administration is in Nigeria...we re not doing something right from d management down to d team (coaches and players)

We have an organization and management issue in this country. We are clearly not doing something right. Employ the right coach and see us shock the world. We have the players.

codemaniacs:


The national team formation is different from their club teams formation. Players have to get used to the positioning of their teammates in the national team...

The national team is where you learn a lot of things ..

I think you really lack knowledge, understanding and insight. That proposition is essentially nonsensical.

I want you to compare the level of coaching, support staff (sports science) not, defensive and offensive specialist coaching staff add that to the high quality of even world class managers that some of our players are exposed to for many seasons.

And now tell me what Salisu, Eguavon and co are going to teach them in two weeks compared to Thier clubs.

Remember you said, A LOT OF THINGS.

codemaniacs:


That doesn't show why they qualified ahead of the S.E...

You're like many others on this thread are under-estimating how strong African countries are and how strong the top 15 CAF teams are.. most of the teams that have faced African countries have struggled to get results and work really hard to get anything from the match....

African teams just have to work on their strikers and chance creation opportunities..

This world cup has shown me that African teams are strong and only poor coaching is holding them back...

So where is the poor coaching coming from ⚽❓

V.O. has improved immensely actually meteorically from the technically inept, limited football intelligence and physicality that he had as 16 year old youth player in Wolfsburg.

Where did his football ⚽schooling and learning come from please ❓

elyte89:



If we re still making reference to a 94 team in dis present 2022,den it shows aw bad d present football administration is in Nigeria...we re not doing something right from d management down to d team (coaches and players)

All countries have a golden generation that they struggle to replicate or surpass

No be every time you go de piss about

komekn:


I think you really lack knowledge, understanding and insight. That proposition is essentially nonsensical.

I want you to compare the level of coaching, support staff (sports science) not, defensive and offensive specialist coaching staff add that to the high quality of even world class managers that some of our players are exposed to for many seasons.

And now tell me what Salisu, Eguavon and co are going to teach them in two weeks compared to Thier clubs.

Remember you said, A LOT OF THINGS.

Players in the national team change from time to time... so it can be like going to a new club every international break so the coach has to teach his players to get to know each other and work together...

In Nigeria's case.. I don't think they interact that much or even train on formation, corners, free-kicks, penalties e.t.c and that's because the arrogant behavior of Emmanuel Dennis towards the other players should have been noticed off the pitch..

and that behavior also shows that NFF thinks like you... just gather players from what you call the "top leagues" and put them together and expect a magical result without teaching them a lot of things...

I won't be surprised if you are an NFF staff or one of the people NFF listens to for advise because the way you comment only someone that's exhibits Emmanuel Dennis level of arrogance can make such comments..

komekn:



So where is the poor coaching coming from ⚽❓

V.O. has improved immensely actually meteorically from the technically inept, limited football intelligence and physicality that he had as 16 year old youth player in Wolfsburg.

Where did his football ⚽schooling and learning come from please ❓

Victor Osimhen has always been excellent technically and has immense football intelligence that's one of the reasons he is where he is today... and he has worked with and learned from the footballers he has played with both at club level and national team..

Ghana will not escape being sent home today. They should go back to Volta region to continue their banku munching

ChrisKels:
Ghana will not escape being sent home today. They should go back to Volta region to continue their banku munching

This man sef. You wan bring them come here.

komekn:


I think you really lack knowledge, understanding and insight. . That proposition is essentially nonsensical.

I want you to compare the level of coaching, support staff (sports science) not, defensive and offensive specialist coaching staff add that to the high quality of even world class managers that some of our players are exposed to for many seasons.

And now tell me what Salisu, Eguavon and co are going to teach them in two weeks compared to Thier clubs.

Remember you said, A LOT OF THINGS.

Why are you so quick to tag people as lacking understanding. A little patience to discern ideas conveyed by others will not hurt.

Every exposure both on the club or national platforms are opportunities for immense growth.
On national platforms, players get the privilege of exposure to different philosophies and approaches to the game not just from the coaches, but also from fellow players.
this is so good even to the point of players picking up new techniques from coaches and fellow players.

In the match against Portugal, did you notice the instruction Paul Onuachu gave to Bassey.

The Portuguese Federation are going to present evidence to FIFA to prove that the first goal against Uruguay was Cristiano Ronaldo’s not Bruno Fernandes.

Source: El Chiringuito TV

See pettiness at it's peak. I wonder what must be going through Bruno's mind right now.

The fake GOAT was even gesturing at the officials after half time asking why he goal was not awarded to him.

Stormtrooper11:


Why are yall actin pained? Like, this guys played pretty well against Portugal compared to what the SE even did, I don't believe the present SE could even beat South Korea but most of the concern here is about Ghana losing.

They are just so pained

I just feel we have many kids here ,Lol

Ghana have really impressed me on this competition ,and I when them nothing but the best

Stormtrooper11:


Exactly. Anytime we get to talk about football, we always put the 1994 team as the standard, while growing up we even thought that team won the world cup the way it was always glorified. I think people glorify just because it was our first world cup.

Sport administration in Nigeria is a farce. It is just a thriving black market.

that 94 team is over hyped

mostob:
The Portuguese Federation are going to present evidence to FIFA to prove that the first goal against Uruguay was Cristiano Ronaldo’s not Bruno Fernandes.

Source: El Chiringuito TV

See pettiness at it's peak. I wonder what must be going through Bruno's mind right now.

The fake GOAT was even gesturing at the officials after half time asking why he goal was not awarded to him.

Let me leave Ronaldo out of this ,but what the hell is wrong with the Portuguese federation?

The national team have already won and took all 3 points and qualify for the next round ,goal awarded to Bruno ,so why are they fighting that the goal should be awarded to Ronaldo ??

andrewbaba44:


They are just so pained

I just feel we have many kids here ,Lol

Ghana have really impressed me on this competition ,and I when them nothing but the best

Ghanaians prayed and celebrated SE downfall in 2018 world cup


As for me am praying for there downfall right now. If they fail I will celebrate

Ogochuks101:

Not all that matters but if outsiders are asked to mention the best world cup performance by an African team. Most would pick Ghana(2010), Senegal (2002), Cameroon (1990) before thinking of the super eagles.

Stop mixing things up.
Getting to the Quarter final is quite different from having the best performance. Football is not schooling. You can have the best performance yet lose while you can play rugby and negative Football to win. Understood!
Many Commentators across different countries will tell you that the best performance by any African team is by Nigeria at 1994 World Cup.

Did you listen to African commentators during this World Cup? None of them even mentioned Cameroon 1990 as one of the best African performances. All mentioned Nigeria's 1994 and 1998.

I suspect it might be a parody news setup but even if it was true FIFA has a microchip in all the balls that can sense touch and they have confirmed there was zero response from the ball once it went past Ronaldo's head.

andrewbaba44:


Let me leave Ronaldo out of this ,but what the hell is wrong with the Portuguese federation?

The national team have already won and took all 3 points and qualify for the next round ,goal awarded to Bruno ,so why are they fighting that the goal should be awarded to Ronaldo ??

ABIODUN105:
Ghanaians prayed and celebrated SE downfall in 2018 world cup


As for me am praying for there downfall right now. If they fail I will celebrate

Who go commot go commot

If they do well they will beat Uruguay ,if they looseguard then they will be beaten and you guys can now banter them

He will be the difference maker. I see Senegal grabbing this one.

fabyom:
Nigeria doesn't glorify mediocrity. Cup or nothing. No African team can still be compared to our 1994 and 1998 teams. The team that eliminated us either gets to the finals or win the cup.

I'm gobsmacked. In 98 we were eliminated by Denmark who did not go beyond the quarter finals after being beaten by Brazil. In 2002, we did not go beyond the first round. In 2010, we did not make it beyond the first round. In 2014, we were eliminated in the second round by France who in turn were ousted in the quarter final. In 2018, we did not make it beyond the first round. So how can you boldly make such a claim at the bolded when it only happened once in 1994?
It appears that you look at our world cup history with fantastic eyes ooo. Our outings are mediocre and consistently poor!

AndSunGorilla:

Yes I won't say a QF showing is inconsequential, however, getting there once shows that it is an aberration. Compare that to consistent performances to get to the 2nd round.

I prefer the aberration of a quarter final berth than the dour consistency of our second round ousters.

The irony of all this is that while Nigeria still has one of the best African performance repping Africa(goals and points), personally, we have been declined so bad. Very bad.

mostob:
The Portuguese Federation are going to present evidence to FIFA to prove that the first goal against Uruguay was Cristiano Ronaldo’s not Bruno Fernandes.

Source: El Chiringuito TV

See pettiness at it's peak. I wonder what must be going through Bruno's mind right now.

The fake GOAT was even gesturing at the officials after half time asking why he goal was not awarded to him.

He's always haunted by Messi