Redomi:
Children are from God. If you went to beg for a child from Satan and you got one, believe me you have been predestined to have such child, just that you couldn't wait for God's time

children are not from god.
Children are from their parents

Natbrowny:


That part seems like a tragic story.

Lets assume its not.

I put u in a house and say specifically to stay clear of a particular room to test ur obedience and at d same time i know your curiousity is active . Yet i didnt put a lock to make sure of that.

The story is He created us. He knows that will happen b4 it happens right. He knows everything. So no blame on anything or anyone right.

I'm doing this things for fun my boss. Dont take me serious. I just say what d book says. Truth or not. Just fun

Have fun friend

I am all about the fun. So let's play.

First, there was no test only real eyeity living.

In your house that you put me in, you have a circuit breaker in its place on the wall, not locked. And from the first day I entered till I got married, you did not hear anything about the circuit breaker and me.

So, tell me can I blame you my landlord for not covering the circuit breaker when my wife went playing with it?

And eh, I just remembered that I was pointing out to you that you are supposed to see the we were first created good as proven by the fact that we saw when "the bad" entered. So this one you are asking about the Landlord's Rights to make His House in the way He likes is a SHIFT FROM POST!

You do not expect good from Satan, good with trick, secret Satan do give physical and spiritual children

AntiChristian:

In Job 1:16 God sent fireball to destroy some of Job's properties.

That was not God, that was Satan especially as you already said that he took permission from God meaning, he has power to use things God Owns just as you people use use God's Stones to kill people.

MaxInDHouse:

God created Adam and Eve in His own image {Genesis 1:26-28} and became their landlord on planet earth but the couple chose Satan as their ruler thereby telling their original landlord to step aside.
Ever since then Satan became the ruler of the world! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19

If Satan didn't control the world now, there's no way he would have promised Jesus the kingdoms of the world if the latter bow down to worship him.

Workch:
children are not from god.
Children are from their parents

I said God and not god.

Oo still not answered

Dtruthspeaker:


That was not God, that was Satan especially as you already said that he took permission from God meaning, he has power to use things God Owns just as you people use use God's Stones to kill people.

Read the book to the end...

You will find out he is right..

cornelboy:

If Satan didn't control the world now, there's no way he would have promised Jesus the kingdoms of the world if the latter bow down to worship him.

This is where the confusion comes from..

Jesus is a Roman Catholic creation...

You will never know anything if you continue to dwell on it..

The earth belongs to earth and the fullness thereof..

Evil is a God's learning tool....make mistakes and learn from it and grow..

All power belongs to God....

Preciousgirl:
Oo still not answered

Satan works for God
And only does what God tells him/her/it to do..
He/she/it only acts with the expressed permission from God....
He has no will outside of the will of God...

Redomi:
I said God and not god.

Its the same, only Christians think that the capital G should go for their god. Anyways, the Christian god is part of the arrays of gods

AntiChristian:
The evidence is in the story of Job in Job 1. Job was righteous but Satan came to seek permission from God to test him.

In Job 1:16 God sent fireball to destroy some of Job's properties.

So everything we classify by our human thinking as good or evil are directly or indirectly created by God!

This is in line with Isaiah 45:7 where Yahweh says He created prosperity and also disaster!

Redomi above is almost totally correct! You will get what you're destined to get at the destined time no matter whom you call on!

Allah claims that evil comes from him


".... If some good befalls them, they say “This is from Allah”. But if evil, they say “This is from thee” (O prophet). Say: “All things are from Allah...." – Quran 4:7

Both Allah and Satan send people astray:


"Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 60)


“Whoever Allah sends astray - there is no guide for him. And He leaves them in their transgression, wandering blindly."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 186 )

Kobojunkie:
God cursed the process of childbearing from the beginning meaning that there are no such things as "holy" babies born into this world ---- everyone is born under God’s curse--- Genesis 3 vs 16. So whether you think the baby was born because of pact made with Satan, or IVF, or to pastor parents, etc., all na the same.

Remember Cain?

How does bringing forth child in pain mean the same as not giving birth to “holy” babies.

Wrong use of scriptures: Genesis 3:16 is about women going through pains during labour and not the nonsense you’re insinuating

Pastsoul:
You do not expect good from Satan, good with trick, secret Satan do give physical and spiritual children

This one na babalawo levels complete.

sonmvayina:


Read the book to the end...

You will find out he is right..

I read it to the end and you are both wrong.

advocatejare:
1. How does bringing forth child in pain mean the same as not giving birth to “holy” babies.

2 Wrong use of scriptures: Genesis 3:16 is about women going through pains during labour and not the nonsense you’re insinuating

1. Do you know understand what it means to be cursed by God?

2. All that is cursed is rendered unholy, unworthy of His presence .i.e. unholy and needing redemption. In Genesis 3 vs 16, God cursed the process by which each are born into this world leading to every child being born via that curse also being cursed from it's birth. That is why there are no such things as "holy babies"

Think deeply about these things as all that is required is for one to carefully reason them and all based on that which is written as spoken by God Himself..

Kobojunkie:
Where is it written that Satan was handed the world that God created and by whom?

and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will.
Luke 4:6

Kobojunkie:
1. Do you know understand what it means to be cursed by God?

2. All that is cursed is rendered unholy, unworthy of His presence .i.e. unholy and needing redemption. In Genesis 3 vs 16, God cursed the process by which each are born into this world leading to every child being born via that curse also being cursed from it's birth. That is why there are no such things as "holy babies"

Think deeply about these things as all that is required is for one to carefully reason them and all based on that which is written as spoken by God Himself..

Give reference for your claims not your own interpretation!

The verse you quoted is talking about having to Labour in pains. Don’t add to the word of God, you know the implications!

advocatejare:

and said to him, “To you I will give all this authority and their glory, for it has been delivered to me, and I give it to whom I will.
Luke 4:6

So, we are to believe Satan's version of the story is true?

advocatejare:

Give reference for your claims not your own interpretation!

The verse you quoted is talking about having to Labour in pains. Don’t add to the word of God, you know the implications!

Again. ...-

2. All that is cursed is rendered unholy, unworthy of His presence .i.e. unholy and needing redemption. In Genesis 3 vs 16, God cursed the process by which each are born into this world leading to every child being born via that curse also being cursed from it's birth. That is why there are no such things as "holy babies"

Think deeply about these things as all that is required is for one to carefully reason them and all based on that which is written as spoken by God Himself..

Kobojunkie:
Again. ...-

2. All that is cursed is rendered unholy, unworthy of His presence .i.e. unholy and needing redemption. In Genesis 3 vs 16, God cursed the process by which each are born into this world leading to every child being born via that curse also being cursed from it's birth. That is why there are no such things as "holy babies"

Think deeply about these things as all that is required is for one to carefully reason them and all based on that which is written as spoken by God Himself..

Since you have no meaningful thing to say to back up your lies, continue wallowing in your delusions

Kobojunkie:
So, we are to believe Satan's version of the story is true?

Bring another version of the story from the scriptures

advocatejare:

Since you have no meaningful thing to say to back up your lies, continue wallowing in your delusions

I see that I cannot help you overcome in delusions either.

advocatejare:

Bring another version of the story from the scriptures

You are kidding? So because Satan, the father of lies, said it then it must be true?

I see I cannot help you with overcoming what are your delusions.

Kobojunkie:
You are kidding? So because Satan, the father of lies say it, it is true?

I see I cannot help you with overcoming what are your delusions.

You’re just ignorant in all aspect, when Christ referred to Satan as the ruler of this world in John 12:31 was Christ lying?

Kobojunkie:
You are kidding? So because Satan, the father of lies, said it then it must be true?

I see I cannot help you with overcoming what are your delusions.

Bring your own version from the scriptures, if not you’re only a blabber, an ignoramus

advocatejare:


Allah claims that evil comes from him


".... If some good befalls them, they say “This is from Allah”. But if evil, they say “This is from thee” (O prophet). Say: “All things are from Allah...." – Quran 4:7

Both Allah and Satan send people astray:


"Have you not seen those who claim to have believed in what was revealed to you, [O Muhammad], and what was revealed before you? They wish to refer legislation to Taghut, while they were commanded to reject it; and Satan wishes to lead them far astray."
(QS. An-Nisaa 4: Verse 60)


“Whoever Allah sends astray - there is no guide for him. And He leaves them in their transgression, wandering blindly."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 186 )

Seems you are truly crazy!
Re: Is Satan Able To Make Some Women Conceive Babies?

Dtruthspeaker:


That was not God, that was Satan especially as you already said that he took permission from God meaning, he has power to use things God Owns just as you people use use God's Stones to kill people.

Abeg don't start!

While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” Job 1:16

The idea that the devil can give children comes from the African world view.
In the Yoruba world view, Esu is ambivalent.
He is capable of both good and evil.
He is about to give children to those who ask. So, Yes, the devil can give you a child

AntiChristian:


Seems you are truly crazy!

Your false prophet Muhammad is the one you’re referring to!

The man that even the Quran says is mad

And they say, "O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad .
-Quran 15:6


Then they turned away from him and said, “[He Muhammad was] taught and he is a madman.”
Quran 44:14


And as expected, muhammad exhibited madness by thinking that he did what he didn’t do


Sahih al-Bukhari 3175
Narrated Aisha:
Once the Prophet (ﷺ) was bewitched so that he began to imagine that he had done a thing which in fact he had not done.




Sahih al-Bukhari 6063
Narrated `Aisha:
The Prophet (ﷺ) continued for such-and-such period imagining that he has slept (had sexual relations) with his wives, and in fact he did not. One day he said, to me, "O `Aisha! Allah has instructed me regarding a matter about which I had asked Him. There came to me two men, one of them sat near…



He even snorted like a camel:

"...Would that I see revelation coming to the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). He (Hadrat 'Umar) said: Would it please you to see the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) receiving the revelations 'Umar lifted a corner of the cloth and I looked at him and he was emitting a sound of snorting. He (the narrator) said: I thought it was the sound of a camel..."
-Sahih Muslim Book 7, Hadith 2654

AntiChristian:


Abeg don't start!

While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said, “The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you!” Job 1:16

You recognised that he was given "Permission" therefore you must see that he got access to use exactly like giving permission to a child to go play and he destroys your car.

Would you say it is you who destroyed your car?

BritishAirways:
The idea that the devil can give children comes from the African world view.
In the Yoruba world view, Esu is ambivalent.
He is capable of both good and evil.
He is about to give children to those who ask. So, Yes, the devil can give you a child

Indeed... many today are pagan worshippers masquerading as Christians.