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How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Workch: 8:58am On Dec 01, 2022 |
You cannot prove a negative. Example: Can you prove dayglow orange wombats with purple mohawks don't exist? Have you looked on EVERY planet in the universe? Every cave? Every burrow? Every zoo? Every private collection? See how impossible that is? But you CAN prove they DO exist…with one simple picture or testable example. This is why we cannot prove gods don't exist. But we can prove gods DO exist by providing evidence. So where is the evidence? It's safe to say they don't exist or not believe they exist until evidence is provided indicating otherwise. 5 Likes |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by SocialJustice: 9:04am On Dec 01, 2022 |
Why must I prove to another person God exists? If after looking at the whole creation, a person is still convinced there is no God, their choice should be respected no matter how stupid it sounds. 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Workch: 9:32am On Dec 01, 2022 |
SocialJustice:But you are convinced that no one created god right? How can god exist by himself without a creator as well? 4 Likes |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by sonmvayina(m): 9:35am On Dec 01, 2022 |
God is the universe itself.. God is existence itself.... Not some humanoid entity somewhere... 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by sonmvayina(m): 9:38am On Dec 01, 2022 |
God is the universe itself.. God is existence itself.... Not some humanoid entity somewhere... Even the ancient Babylonian understood that, why don't the modern man ? This is Marduk with the universe as his garments... 1 Like
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Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by SocialJustice: 9:41am On Dec 01, 2022 |
Workch:Do I look like someone up for stupid argument this morning that only feeds ego and nothing else? 2 Likes |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Workch: 9:59am On Dec 01, 2022 |
SocialJustice:Why do you think that a healthy debate about how things work is all about ego? Are you suffering from cognitive dissonance? 3 Likes |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by SocialJustice: 10:52am On Dec 01, 2022 |
Workch:There is nothing healthy about this debate and people hardly change, they either seek reinforcers of their views or feed their ego. 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Workch: 11:15am On Dec 01, 2022 |
SocialJustice:I am willing to change if I see verifiable and repeatable evidence. You should also be willing to change if you don’t see any 3 Likes |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by SocialJustice: 11:22am On Dec 01, 2022 |
Workch:Again, I said only a stupid person sees the intricacies of creation and says there's no God or source of creation. In case you missed it the first time. If you can look at the creation and not see God, I can't help you. |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by KnownUnknown: 11:31am On Dec 01, 2022 |
SocialJustice: What is the creation? 4 Likes |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Workch: 11:57am On Dec 01, 2022 |
SocialJustice:only a stupid person thinks that a more intricate god that created this intricate universe cannot have a creator 3 Likes |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by KnownUnknown: 12:27pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
sonmvayina: sonmvayina: Your god has to be the most confusing god on Nairaland. Your god is simultaneously the universe, a garment worn by Marduk, a male humanoid who gives instructions on mountains, and a lawgiver who produced Jewish beliefs. 3 Likes |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Wilgrea7(m): 1:17pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
SocialJustice: Which God exactly? Why one? Why not 2, or 10? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by sonmvayina(m): 2:05pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
Wilgrea7: There is only one... That's why it is called a UNIverse |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:54pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: Walahi talahi you dey craz and no be small crez o na bigggggggggg one! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 4:23pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
We can not even convince them to buy a Camry or a Chair or a Wife or even to vote Peter Obi that they see is it now He Who is Mightier than us Whom we can not see at will? Is it even necessary to convince you people? No one forces a person to choose a good thing! Come to think of it, it is always the bad things which people are forced to use eg formal school, ATM, phones, money etc |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 4:27pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
SocialJustice: I wonder o If they do not know how to use their eyes, what is my own now? Is it not them who will stumble and cry for falling down? |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 4:36pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
Workch: Simple! It does not matter. You can never know exactly like your mannequin can wonder till it enters fire why you, it's maker, is not made of plastic or manufactured from a factory like him. This is where our knowledge ends and it can never get past this Wall. And the most important Truth is That God is The Boss. 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 4:40pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
Workch: Only a stupid person is presumptuous as a mannequin thinking because it is made of plastic therefore it's maker is made of plastic. 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 4:41pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
Wilgrea7: Told you many times, Two kings can not rule one land. 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 4:44pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
KnownUnknown: That is the product of extreme lunacy drug ingested madness! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by SocialJustice: 4:52pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker:Lol, nobody is stumbling and falling. I'm empathetic to their view because we're all 2 sides of a coin. Despite our different views, none of us have God in our personal experience but we choose to believe why they don't. Their views naturally are just the result of the educational system which is based on empiricism-Seeing to believe. |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 4:59pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
SocialJustice: Okay! We are not on the same coin, they are elsewhere. I see them falling down a lot until they get to the point where they are tired of getting up. Then something comes to crush them as they are lying down ![]() ![]() ![]() However, we all have seen that some people see, yet they do not see else they wouldn't have fallen for that prostitute or dealt with that criminal. ![]() |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Wilgrea7(m): 11:15pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: And I've given you examples of how multiple people can come together as a team to create something 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 11:23pm On Dec 01, 2022 |
Wilgrea7: Always changing the argument. Create is not Rule. And God is about Rule. A King is about Rule. |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Judybash93(m): 1:25am On Dec 02, 2022 |
SocialJustice: You really don't have a point 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Wilgrea7(m): 11:00am On Dec 06, 2022 |
Apologies for not seeing this earlier Dtruthspeaker: I've told you before that rulership is not always singular. Even today, we have situations that are presided over by councils, rather than a single person. Rulership can of course be singular. But it doesn't always have to be. 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Dtruthspeaker: 12:25pm On Dec 06, 2022 |
Wilgrea7: And the real eyeity shows rulership is singular. Even in the councils we see "A single person still presides (rules) over the council. The real eyeity shows 2 kings can never rule a land. That is what it is. 1 Like |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Aemmyjah(m): 7:47am On Dec 07, 2022 |
Confused agnostic We have not seen the Creator God But from the things made, we can conclude that he exists For example, at a time, people never knew about what causes diseases but the use of lens and microscope helped them to see that microorganisms are the causes of some diseases There are also tools or instruments that helped us know we have clusters, galaxies, atoms, we are still discovering things Humans want to see God in order to believe he exists. Let them go and invent such instruments na. They are awed by his creative works but instead of acknowledging God, they acknowledge 'mother nature's. Let them first come to convince that there is no Creator God. They themselves know it is foolish to believe that something does not exist simply because we can't see it, hear it or measure it. God is not wind, air, temperature or gravity or time or space. They can't measure the beginning of time or space. The concept is too wonderful to contemplate. How much more the Creator? Is life and the universe the work of a Creator or they came by Chance? |
Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Maynman: 8:28am On Dec 07, 2022 |
Confused theist, outside of those forged jewish books, your Israelite god, Jehovah doesn’t exist. 1 Like
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Re: How Can You Convince Atheists/agnostics That Your God Exist by Wilgrea7(m): 9:03am On Dec 07, 2022 |
Dtruthspeaker: You seem to be making a false equivocation here. Being the ruler or "president" of a council doesn't imply complete control over the council like that of a king would imply. A king has sole authority over every aspect of his kingdom. Whatever he says, stands. He can fire, hire, and change anyone. He calls the final shots on what goes on in every aspect of the kingdom. I'll give a simple example. The EU parliament. Even though the parliament has a president, this president cannot decide by themselves, what goes on in each of the individual member states. Neither can they single-handedly make decisions without the agreement of all individual member states. Another example is the house of congress (US), or similarly the senate here in Nigeria. By virtue of the system in place, not even the president of the country can fire the individuals in these councils. And also, the president of these councils cannot make independent decisions, without the approval of other council members. I gave you two examples to (hopefully and clearly) illustrate my point. That rulership is NOT always singular. There are different systems of power distribution that exist in our world today. It is not always a king-kingdom situation. 5 Likes |
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