jameshow:


You have made so much sense in this piece, as for me and my family, we are going no where. How can i make 19m in Nigeria and use everything to japa. If i can make 19m here then i can make more. My children can go and study but me am going no where. This country is blessed and resourceful. If i travel at all is just on vacation.

You hypocritical statement is very evident in the false hope you just gave yourself.

MrBroke:



What have you done for a change if I may ask?

..and u chose Mr broke as ur name?

With 19m and prudent planning one can live large in naija, I speak from experience.

Naijabad:


Most Nigerian managers earn less than $1000 per month

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QuinModah:
Last Friday, I hugged one of my most impressive colleagues goodbye. He turned away, sobbing. I turned away with voice quaking, realizing what a big loss he would be.

Later that evening, I had another get-together with a second friend who relocates this week. While discussing his massive expense, he suddenly slouched in his chair, stressfully squeezed the empty ragolis bottle in his hands and concluded:

"Oremi, this relocation has cost me almost everything"
"You don’t want to know!" He further sighed "You don’t."

Today, with the help and data from three (3) relocating friends, I compile the rough cost (below) for prospective relocating families (focus on UK) and a poem for my friend and Nigeria:

Cost of Japa from Nigeria for a family of 4= 180k
Renewal of Passport
Official rate 22k
Accelerated rate 45k
Some pay as high as 75k

Transcript 75k
Usually, one parent is a student
30-45k for school runs
25-30k to send

Estimated Tuition fee deposit
11,000-18,000-pound sterling
4.5m most schools want 50% deposit

Proof of fund (In deposit)
Family of 4 need 25m in deposited in an accoun 2-3 months

UK Visa 1.4m
Family of 4 pay 475-pound sterling

NHF
Family of 4 pay 875-pound sterling

Flight ticket 2.8m
Depending on booking
700k person x4
Some have booked as high as 1.2m

Arrival Accommodation 4.4m
1st Month shortlet 200-pound sterling per week
refundable deposit of 250 pound
First 6 months at 750 pounds

Total Cost 19m for family of four to UK not Canada or US. It can be cheaper or more

Oremi, I hope we meet again,
as you japa to find fresh grain,
to return if Nigeria again reigns?
God, will any leader ever end this drain?
But prayers will be in vain,
if in 2023, unwisely we vote again.

God bless everyone who has relocated. God bless everyone staying behind. God bless #Nigeria.

Your estimate is actually VERY conservative, ma. At current rates/costs in the UK, that family will sleep on the streets.

For a family of 5 - dad, mum, 3 kids (all under 10), you should budget AT LEAST N25m-N30m.

Pojomojo:
Team JAPA are among the lazy and irrational citizens. I wonder why many don’t think of the reason why they found themeselves to be citizens of Nigeria.

JAPA mentality IMO you have no plan to influence your nation or your society, it appears you’re not in tune with the purpose of your existence but only focused on your personal interest.

We’ve been lied to that life is what we felt it is when actually it’s extremely the opposite of what we’ve been told.

Don’t be surprised that citizens of civilized countries are tied of their country just as we’re tied too. Strict laws we don’t follow here, you’ll get there and comport yourself meanwhile, their citizens are tied of such laws cause they know some countries are lawless.

Wow, humanity on the run to nowhere when nothing is chasing them but themselves and they lament it’s life.
This money for relocation is enough to set up a micro enterprise to meet the fast growing population in Nigeria / Neighboring African country, with a plan for upgrade of the business as the cash flow increases. There is no free launch any where in the world. Africa has a lot of gap and opportunities to be filled and harnessed. All the same relocation is good with respective individual evaluation of the opportunities and risk.
For every thing in life, there is time and season for every one, so it is always good to get prepared for the opportunities.

My advise is that individual should relocate on personal reasons and not because your close friend or family member has travelled to the UK or Canada, The case varies and individual potentials, opportunities and luck varies.

A family of 4 that have truly "Japa" to the UK knows your total initial cost is highly exaggerated for the popular one-year masters.

1. School fees can be paid at an official rate (less than 500 nairas) and some schools require a 2k or 5k pounds deposit. This drops the tuition deposit to about 1m to 2.5m. If I assume a 5k deposit, it saves 2m nairas compared to yours.

2. For proof of funds (in interest), you need tuition balance + living expenses. Most school tuition is less than 13,000 pounds, and there are schools with less than 10000 pounds tuition. If you deposit 5000 pounds (2.5m nairas) for a 13,000-pound school, you will need about 8000 pounds (4m nairas) more for the tuition balance. You will also need 29,000 pounds for living expenses for a family of 4 outside London. (29,000+8000) pounds= 37,000 pounds (about 17.5m naira). At 3.5% interest, 17.5m naira will yield 612,500 naira. Saves about 1.9 million nairas compared to yours.


To-be continued..
All the best.!
Peace

I see your point clearly and I am not pro-Japa by any means but the truth is that sometimes you need to understand what makes these JAPA people to Japa.

Among the things that can make someone to Japa include this massive insecurity in the land, unending ASUU strike, clueless government policies, family wahala, unending epileptic power supply, poorly performing economy, bad or inexistence healthcare and so many other reasons why someone might want leave this country for good.

Everything is not about money.

Sometimes, peace of mind is the driving force behind all these Japa tendency.

It’s funny when I see people who never contributed one penny to someone’s struggle or success but quick to analys how their money should be spent, where to live and travel to. Tell me what you have done with your money maybe I will have interest, don’t judge if I travel to uk canada or even Qatar with mine. When it comes to people finances and where they choose to live the rest of their lives, my brother it’s non of your concern. I spent 20M relocating my wife self and kids, to you 20M is much and without any benefit. To me 20M is much and the benefits are worthy… Sorry to say this, most people like you wanted the same opportunity if given !!!

19m with family

How we think when we don't have enough courage or money to relocate�.

Pojomojo:
Team JAPA are among the lazy and irrational citizens. I wonder why many don’t think of the reason why they found themeselves to be citizens of Nigeria.

JAPA mentality IMO you have no plan to influence your nation or your society, it appears you’re not in tune with the purpose of your existence but only focused on your personal interest.

We’ve been lied to that life is what we felt it is when actually it’s extremely the opposite of what we’ve been told.

Don’t be surprised that citizens of civilized countries are tied of their country just as we’re tied too. Strict laws we don’t follow here, you’ll get there and comport yourself meanwhile, their citizens are tied of such laws cause they know some countries are lawless.

Wow, humanity on the run to nowhere when nothing is chasing them but themselves and they lament it’s life.
This money for relocation is enough to set up a micro enterprise to meet the fast growing population in Nigeria / Neighboring African country, with a plan for upgrade of the business as the cash flow increases. There is no free launch any where in the world. Africa has a lot of gap and opportunities to be filled and harnessed. All the same relocation is good with respective individual evaluation of the opportunities and risk.
For every thing in life, there is time and season for every one, so it is always good to get prepared for the opportunities.

My advise is that individual should relocate on personal reasons and not because your close friend or family member has travelled to the UK or Canada, The case varies and individual potentials, opportunities and luck varies.

A family of 4 that have truly "Japa" to the UK knows your total initial cost is highly exaggerated for the popular one-year masters.

1. School fees can be paid at an official rate (less than 500 nairas) and some schools require a 2k or 5k pounds deposit. This drops the tuition deposit to about 1m to 2.5m. If I assume a 5k deposit, it saves 2m nairas compared to yours.

2. For proof of funds (in interest), you need tuition balance + living expenses. Most school tuition is less than 13,000 pounds, and there are schools with less than 10000 pounds tuition. If you deposit 5000 pounds (2.5m nairas) for a 13,000-pound school, you will need about 8000 pounds (4m nairas) more for the tuition balance. You will also need 29,000 pounds for living expenses for a family of 4 outside London. (29,000+8000) pounds= 37,000 pounds (about 17.5m naira). At 3.5% interest, 17.5m naira will yield 612,500 naira. Saves about 1.9 million nairas compared to yours.


To-be continued..
All the best.!
Peace

zed7:

You're a slave already with your mentality. What you don't realise is that a goat will not become a lion when taken overseas.

A well fed goat is still better than a hungry lion.
I would rather be a goat in the overseas than a hungry lion here in Nigeria. People abroad are doing things while people in Nigeria are all complaining so you expect me to die here.

vickydevoka:

I will advise you to move to uk first after 3 to 5 years you moved to either of the countries you mentioned, I swear I no go regret. I borrow my bro 5 million within one year I paid back and I’m don with school fees plus extra 2 million inside my account. If I hustle for the next 3 to 4 years as young as I am na 50million sure for my account. Now I go relocate to cheaper place start up family

UK is way expensive than those countries I mentioned,Finland is a bit cheaper than UK.....

QuinModah:
Last Friday, I hugged one of my most impressive colleagues goodbye. He turned away, sobbing. I turned away with voice quaking, realizing what a big loss he would be.

Later that evening, I had another get-together with a second friend who relocates this week. While discussing his massive expense, he suddenly slouched in his chair, stressfully squeezed the empty ragolis bottle in his hands and concluded:

"Oremi, this relocation has cost me almost everything"
"You don’t want to know!" He further sighed "You don’t."

Today, with the help and data from three (3) relocating friends, I compile the rough cost (below) for prospective relocating families (focus on UK) and a poem for my friend and Nigeria:

Cost of Japa from Nigeria for a family of 4= 180k
Renewal of Passport
Official rate 22k
Accelerated rate 45k
Some pay as high as 75k

Transcript 75k
Usually, one parent is a student
30-45k for school runs
25-30k to send

Estimated Tuition fee deposit
11,000-18,000-pound sterling
4.5m most schools want 50% deposit

Proof of fund (In deposit)
Family of 4 need 25m in deposited in an accoun 2-3 months

UK Visa 1.4m
Family of 4 pay 475-pound sterling

NHF
Family of 4 pay 875-pound sterling

Flight ticket 2.8m
Depending on booking
700k person x4
Some have booked as high as 1.2m

Arrival Accommodation 4.4m
1st Month shortlet 200-pound sterling per week
refundable deposit of 250 pound
First 6 months at 750 pounds

Total Cost 19m for family of four to UK not Canada or US. It can be cheaper or more

Oremi, I hope we meet again,
as you japa to find fresh grain,
to return if Nigeria again reigns?
God, will any leader ever end this drain?
But prayers will be in vain,
if in 2023, unwisely we vote again.

God bless everyone who has relocated. God bless everyone staying behind. God bless #Nigeria.

The poem at the end made me feel sad, just like the way sound sultan music ...no matter where you go make u no forget area o. (hope I got the spelling right)

So many families have been torn apart, lost forever. This japa will have a significant effect much later. New generations will be formed abroad. Most families will treat incest issues years to come, becos cousins will meet somewhere and start loving themselves without knowing they are related.

The japa rate is very alarming.
It's well.
May God help us.

43Ronin:
There are 5 times more Indians than nigerians in any country and the Indians are usually successful. This is why. The indians prepare for canada/UK kob mkt before they come. Their people in those countries export knowledge back home so that the ones home can be quickly prepared. BA, Project Mgt, Data Analyst, Data scientist these Indians learn this skills thoroughly before even travelling out. So when they eventually travel, they are more prepared than you in that labor mkt. You will in a python class learning how to code but the Indians have finished coding . Their people own many biz in US, UK, Canada and are willing to help their brothers free for work sponsorship. But the nigerians, MBA! You that just came they will charge you to teach you coding, bill your life if dey want to help you get work visa or sponsorship. And social media has really made lots of nigerians very stupid. The Indians here can barely speak English but they all passed IELTS with band score 8. Give Nigerian the pin code he will come to nairaland, twitter or LinkedIn to cast...

I respect Indians anytime.

Mindlog:
Love the poem.

It makes no sense the entire family travelling at the same time as many thought they would gat accomodation easily upon arrival, only to find themselves staying in an Airbnb for some weeks.

sure, let one go and secure a place for the rest… That’s how the wise one does. But that doesn’t stop you all from getting your visas at the same time.

Nigeria is not even a country to birth kids right now. If anyone has a means to leave legitimately without been a burden over there should go.

Even smaller African countries are becoming better than Nigeria.

[quote author=Triangles1 post=118814577]People always get this wrong, if you don't have certificate or hand work don't go abroad except you want to park snow or work in mortuary.

Nigeria no too hard to make it if you believe, poverty is a state of mind.[/quote Sure bro.. Its a state of mind, a friend of mine a young lad probably 27years now. Just came into Lagos two years back, he put in the work, network among people and set up his small company that call people and wish them season greetings and all that. So, early this year he relocated to lekki, this guy is a big boy now with 3 plots of land in that Island area. He bought one and he was given two plots as ambassador for a real estate company. If u put in the work definitely the results will come out..;. Same guy that doesn't own a degree and just enter lag 2020 from anambra.

K

1Sharon:


And you think business in the west is all sunshine and rainbows??

Is the environment has hostile as it is in Nigeria? Do they have issues of multiple taxation, galloping inflation, poor infrastructure, insecurity, restricted access to Forex etcetera etcetera?

But must they Japa?

damzy88:
I respect Indians anytime.

You are right, but don’t outrightly Condemned Nigerians. The Indians you see have many opportunities even back home to study on loans and their country is also built that getting advance tech certificates is made easy compare to Nigeria, where an average man barely eat 3 times a day. India may be poor but can’t me compared to Nigeria whose Citizens even travel to India to study.

Please � how can I travel by road

berryPee:
Just but a good bike and JAPA by road, it saves you more money.

Contact me for more advice on how to JAPA without spending millions.

Simeonjoe1:


Like vote wisely will be solve your problem?
Lol all this delusional Nigerians self, don't know your country is in hot mess irrespective of who you vote. The wisest choice is not to vote at all

That is the worst bolded there, because unreasonable people will choose a leader for you and the rest who tried to vote right, I have never voted in my life even though I had a PVC, I once thought the way you thought too, till Buhari became president and I knew that if I don't try to participate as a reasonable person, unreasonable people might choose leaders for me and others that are reasonable.

And for your assumption that it has to do with my problems, since 2017 I have been earning in dollars and Euros, I have foreign bank accounts in UK, Europe, U.S, canada , australia(Not here to brag) I save my money in dollars and Euros, I work from home, I might not be where I want right now, but I have friends, families and I see people who are suffering and have died from bad leadership and you expect me not to be concerned just because it's not directly affecting me....

Dollywood:
I'll be something; I'll leave a mark as a legend before dying—Mark my words!

Who are you telling? We or yourself? If you don't become legend tha is your own palaver

For those working and working overseers... I am here to ease the academic stress !!

Need a 3rd hand for your assignments, Term paper , classwork and project proposals...

Please contact @o8143three1766nine.

kingmaster2009:


And within.one.year, you can make the 19 million. Back in the Uk....

Tell me the work that can pay you 19 million annually in Nigeria....
And.if your have IT skill, you can make.it faster..

Choice is.yours ....and

Are you sure sir , pls ask pple on student visa living in uk with family if that is possible

Within 1yr ? maybe later years

QuinModah:
Last Friday, I hugged one of my most impressive colleagues goodbye. He turned away, sobbing. I turned away with voice quaking, realizing what a big loss he would be.

Later that evening, I had another get-together with a second friend who relocates this week. While discussing his massive expense, he suddenly slouched in his chair, stressfully squeezed the empty ragolis bottle in his hands and concluded:

"Oremi, this relocation has cost me almost everything"
"You don’t want to know!" He further sighed "You don’t."

Today, with the help and data from three (3) relocating friends, I compile the rough cost (below) for prospective relocating families (focus on UK) and a poem for my friend and Nigeria:

Cost of Japa from Nigeria for a family of 4= 180k
Renewal of Passport
Official rate 22k
Accelerated rate 45k
Some pay as high as 75k

Transcript 75k
Usually, one parent is a student
30-45k for school runs
25-30k to send

Estimated Tuition fee deposit
11,000-18,000-pound sterling
4.5m most schools want 50% deposit

Proof of fund (In deposit)
Family of 4 need 25m in deposited in an accoun 2-3 months

UK Visa 1.4m
Family of 4 pay 475-pound sterling

NHF
Family of 4 pay 875-pound sterling

Flight ticket 2.8m
Depending on booking
700k person x4
Some have booked as high as 1.2m

Arrival Accommodation 4.4m
1st Month shortlet 200-pound sterling per week
refundable deposit of 250 pound
First 6 months at 750 pounds

Total Cost 19m for family of four to UK not Canada or US. It can be cheaper or more

Oremi, I hope we meet again,
as you japa to find fresh grain,
to return if Nigeria again reigns?
God, will any leader ever end this drain?
But prayers will be in vain,
if in 2023, unwisely we vote again.

God bless everyone who has relocated. God bless everyone staying behind. God bless #Nigeria.

....you are spot on bro..same amount my guy with 2 kids spent..i have a family 6 so i gotta hustle more

adonainana:


True it dey sup big time for here oooo, on another note, for anyone who wants to do business in nigeria in the future, try and avoid like Ebola any business in nigeria that involves power ( electricity ) Instead focus on ones that dont need power although these businesses may look boring and not so glamorous, So businesses such as Cement depot, Iron rod mini depot, Beer distubution business or mini depot, primary or secondary school etc buying and selling generally

Sometimes once you set up a business and the first thing you have to do is buy a diesel mikano gen in order to run the business, na so where problem dey start ooo

sometimes the other types of businesses i have highlighted above generally survive every economic climate nigeria throws at them even when dollars becomes 2000 naira to 1 dollar. Most hotels and cold rooms dont and wont survive such

This explains why back in the days some car dealers were just smiling to the bank anyhow, cos where they parked thier cars for sale didnt need power or anything to run it. But that changed now cos the internet has made everyone a car dealer.

Also Creche, and a post nursery and primary school ( is an underrated business in nigeria ). For the middle class who for some reason never leave nigeria, they always have good money to pay for thier kids or nursery or primary school education .

We would leave the discussion here for no w

Nice insights!!!

Pojomojo:
Team JAPA are among the lazy and irrational citizens. I wonder why many don’t think of the reason why they found themeselves to be citizens of Nigeria.

JAPA mentality IMO you have no plan to influence your nation or your society, it appears you’re not in tune with the purpose of your existence but only focused on your personal interest.

We’ve been lied to that life is what we felt it is when actually it’s extremely the opposite of what we’ve been told.

Don’t be surprised that citizens of civilized countries are tied of their country just as we’re tied too. Strict laws we don’t follow here, you’ll get there and comport yourself meanwhile, their citizens are tied of such laws cause they know some countries are lawless.

Wow, humanity on the run to nowhere when nothing is chasing them but themselves and they lament it’s life.
This money for relocation is enough to set up a micro enterprise to meet the fast growing population in Nigeria / Neighboring African country, with a plan for upgrade of the business as the cash flow increases. There is no free launch any where in the world. Africa has a lot of gap and opportunities to be filled and harnessed. All the same relocation is good with respective individual evaluation of the opportunities and risk.
For every thing in life, there is time and season for every one, so it is always good to get prepared for the opportunities.

My advise is that individual should relocate on personal reasons and not because your close friend or family member has travelled to the UK or Canada, The case varies and individual potentials, opportunities and luck varies.

A family of 4 that have truly "Japa" to the UK knows your total initial cost is highly exaggerated for the popular one-year masters.

1. School fees can be paid at an official rate (less than 500 nairas) and some schools require a 2k or 5k pounds deposit. This drops the tuition deposit to about 1m to 2.5m. If I assume a 5k deposit, it saves 2m nairas compared to yours.

2. For proof of funds (in interest), you need tuition balance + living expenses. Most school tuition is less than 13,000 pounds, and there are schools with less than 10000 pounds tuition. If you deposit 5000 pounds (2.5m nairas) for a 13,000-pound school, you will need about 8000 pounds (4m nairas) more for the tuition balance. You will also need 29,000 pounds for living expenses for a family of 4 outside London. (29,000+8000) pounds= 37,000 pounds (about 17.5m naira). At 3.5% interest, 17.5m naira will yield 612,500 naira. Saves about 1.9 million nairas compared to yours.


To-be continued..
All the best.!
Peace

if you do not have the means or Money to japa abeg REST.
All those in Power today Leading you and whom you are about to vote for or against have thier full families abroad you are there talking!
PS this is a response to your 1st two lines

kingmaster2009:


...currently in the UK....
Lazy man can not survive in the UK but if you can work round the clock.....you will cash out big time...


People.on student visa have their dependent working 24/7 for them and with the 20 hours for the main immigrants ....

One thing is important...ask your God first....we all have different destiny and destination

Don't mind that guy