teeshet:
i've not seen ansu fati in this tournament. Whats happening?

He played yesterday for the first time

andrewbaba44:


Does it change the fact that he still scored more under pep ?

Did he score more after guardiola came or not ?

With all competitions he scored more under pep ,so your point ?

Why should pep improve Nasir who wasn’t serious with football before he arrived ?

So it’s by force for pep to tell city to give Nasri a new contract when he wasn’t even in his plans ,so he can prove you wrong ?

Why not check nasri career after then

and how many seasons before he did?
How many season did he use with pelegrini?
How many managers did sterling spend more than 2 seasons with?

But ziyech is serious with football and fraudiola will improve him?
Lmao.

andrewbaba44:


Guardiola have 2 ucl

Say something else

Guardiola will never play 4 ucl finals and loose 3

yeah. Thank you Messi.

NinjaXmetahuman:
and how many seasons before he did?
How many season did he use with pelegrini?
How many managers did sterling spend more than 2 seasons with?

But ziyech is serious with football and fraudiola will improve him?
Lmao.

It doesn’t change the fact that sterling was better under pep than he was with pellegrini

Yes guardiola will improve ziyech

Why do we have so many struggling players at Chelsea and not just ziyech ,the sterling that was enjoying at man city is struggling at Chelsea ,sterling is just 27 for your info

NinjaXmetahuman:
yeah. Thank you Messi.

Messi na him player ,maybe na Ronaldo he did win ucl with .

A few more matches to go for us to crown the champion! (MD1-MD3)

andrewbaba44:


It doesn’t change the fact that sterling was better under pep than he was with pellegrini

Yes guardiola will improve ziyech

Why do we have so many struggling players at Chelsea and not just ziyech ,the sterling that was enjoying at man city is struggling at Chelsea ,sterling is just 27 for your info

1 year under pelegrini - sterling 11 goals
I year under fraudiola - sterling 10 goals.

Such a great improvement.

Players struggling at Chelsea is different from player struggling under a manager. Know the difference.

Chelsea has about 5 managers at the same time fraudiola spent at mancity, ofcos some players will struggle adapting with different systems of each manager.

Ziyech has played under 3 different managers and his output is still average. Let fraudiola improve the likes of jack grealish he bought for 100 million first , then come back and talk.

andrewbaba44:

Messi na him player ,maybe na Ronaldo he did win ucl with .

Messi carried him.

NinjaXmetahuman:
1 year under pelegrini - sterling 11 goals
I year under fraudiola - sterling 10 goals.

Such a great improvement.

Players struggling at Chelsea is different from player struggling under a manager. Know the difference.

Chelsea has about 5 managers at the same time fraudiola spent at mancity, ofcos some players will struggle adapting with different systems of each manager.

Ziyech has played under 3 different managers and his output is still average. Let fraudiola improve the likes of jack grealish he bought for 100 million first , then come back and talk.

This clap back hard oo.

andrewbaba44 where are thou?

arukwe123:
where is Pount

as usual, ghost mode

teeshet:
what happened to ziyech?

nothing

raumdeuter:


How many leagues have produced more world cup winners in Europe

Bayern stealing other club players from that league, monopolizing it,my prayer is one sheikh we buy Dortmund,so that Dortmund will stop selling their talents ,how can you win league ten straight years ,what nonsense

NinjaXmetahuman:
1 year under pelegrini - sterling 11 goals
I year under fraudiola - sterling 10 goals.

Such a great improvement.

Players struggling at Chelsea is different from player struggling under a manager. Know the difference.

Chelsea has about 5 managers at the same time fraudiola spent at mancity, ofcos some players will struggle adapting with different systems of each manager.

Ziyech has played under 3 different managers and his output is still average. Let fraudiola improve the likes of jack grealish he bought for 100 million first , then come back and talk.

Tuchel spend more than a year at Chelsea and won the champions league yet we still have many struggling players under him

I guess sterling only spent 1 year under both coaches ,keep turning amala to prove me wrong

Sterling 1 year with pellegrini 47 games 11 goals and
10 assists


Sterling 1 year with guardiola 47 games 10 goals and 20 assists

But pellegrini is better

Your team should improve your flops first ,maybe after that pep will improve grealish ,you have so many grealish in your team ,if I finally speak I am in trouble

Ziyech have played with different managers at Ajax and Morocco and his input is not average

turn amala from now till next year you will always fail when you try to discredit guardiola

Jealousy and pride will never make you admit ,I know your type

FBS:

This clap back hard oo.

andrewbaba44 where are thou?

I don nack am back boss

andrewbaba44:


He knows ,but he should keep deceiving himself ,they can call him whatever ,we love our guardiola ,sorry fraudiola

We have seen the money they have spent ,shebi it’s by money

I also see people talking about the fact that he had Messi and the Barcelona team. Roberto Martinez has proven you can have all the talents in the world but if you are a shiit coach, you’re not winning anything

NinjaXmetahuman:
1 year under pelegrini - sterling 11 goals
I year under fraudiola - sterling 10 goals.

Such a great improvement.

Players struggling at Chelsea is different from player struggling under a manager. Know the difference.

Chelsea has about 5 managers at the same time fraudiola spent at mancity, ofcos some players will struggle adapting with different systems of each manager.

Ziyech has played under 3 different managers and his output is still average. Let fraudiola improve the likes of jack grealish he bought for 100 million first , then come back and talk.

... I'm sure Grealish is thanking his stars that he has a wonderful manager like fraudiola, 2 yrs into city career newcomer like Alvarez is even ahead of him in attacking pecking order...That was how somebody was arguing that Pep made Messi, when nor be ment!!

Them suppose rename this thread beer parlor thread

Same people that dismiss allan saint maximin as just a dribbler, are hyping musialla that is equally the same

FBS:
A few more matches to go for us to crown the champion! (MD1-MD3)

just 5 points?

And is it fair to tabulate those of us that chose 1 player with people that listed an entire team

Adiwana:


I also see people talking about the fact that he had Messi and the Barcelona team. Roberto Martinez has proven you can have all the talents in the world but if you are a shiit coach, you’re not winning anything

They won’t tell us how Ernesto velverde bottled 2 champions league title with a red hot Messi ,since once you have Messi winning the champions league becomes automatically

They won’t tell us how mourinho failed to win the champions league with a very fvcking good cr7 at Madrid

Havertz10:
just 5 points?

And is it fair to tabulate those of us that chose 1 player with people that listed an entire team

max was 3. No one had more than that.
I mentioned here for folks to select no more than 3 but some probably didn't see the post.
On the other hand Havertz is out so this won't make much different at all.

Moving forward lets make it 1 player each.

andrewbaba44:


Guardiola have 2 ucl

Say something else

Guardiola will never play 4 ucl finals and loose 3

After leaving Messi Pep hasn't won UCL, in the last 8-9 years Klopp lost 2 out of 3 UCL finals, that is 66.6% lost while Pep lost all UCL finals that is 100% lost.

andrewbaba44:


Tuchel spend more than a year at Chelsea and won the champions league yet we still have many struggling players under him

I guess sterling only spent 1 year under both coaches ,keep turning amala to prove me wrong

Sterling 1 year with pellegrini 47 games 11 goals and
10 assists

Sterling 1 year with guardiola 47 games 10 goals and 20 assists

But pellegrini is better

lol you really want to use tuchel?

Tuchel spent less than 2 years and over achieved with the so called players you said were struggling.

Fraudiola spent 6 years with players that are not struggling, yet his biggest achievement is just local trophies after outspending every single big spending manager in history. Sorry I'm not impressed.

That's the trajectory. 20+ goals and assist under pelegrini
30+ goals under fraudiola.

Let's not forget pelegrini was using zabaleta and Clichy you considered bad and sterling still got 20+ ga
Fraudiola came and spend about 300 million dollars on that same squad that season, yet his goal output dipped.

CAPdan21:

... I'm sure Grealish is thanking his stars that he has a wonderful manager like fraudiola, 2 yrs into city career newcomer like Alvarez is even ahead of him in attacking pecking order...That was how somebody was arguing that Pep made Messi, when nor be ment!!

as in.

raumdeuter:


Where is the same Hazard that you have been hailing here for years

Where were you when he clinched a world cup medal and was the 2nd best player in the last world cup?

NinjaXmetahuman:
lol you really want to use tuchel?

Tuchel spent less than 2 years and over achieved with the so called players you said were struggling.

Fraudiola spent 6 years with players that are not struggling, yet his biggest achievement is just local trophies after outspending every single big spending manager in history. Sorry I'm not impressed.

That's the trajectory. 20+ goals and assist under pelegrini
30+ goals under fraudiola.

Let's not forget pelegrini was using zabaleta and Clichy you considered bad and sterling still got 20+ ga
Fraudiola came and spend about 300 million dollars on that same squad that season, yet his goal output dipped.

It's looking like he wished that he never mentioned Sterling in his original post.

Ballzproblem2:
pep can make average player look class

Gabriel Jesus nko?

MorataFC:
After leaving Messi Pep hasn't won UCL, in the last 8-9 years Klopp lost 2 out of 3 UCL finals, that is 66.6% lost while Pep lost all UCL finals that is 100% lost.

Dry agenda

Since it’s easy to win ucl with Messi you will tell me what stopped Ernesto velverde from achieving such

Keep showing your hate for pep ,while deep down you want him at your club

Na yourself you dey deceive no be me ,I understand the pain seeing someone turn your league to farmers league while your darling team struggle for the top 4 trophy .

FBS:
A few more matches to go for us to crown the champion! (MD1-MD3)

two Barca idiots ,at the bottom

airmark:


Gabriel Jesus nko?

Jesus was performing in man city ,just that he didn't have playing time ,hence the reason why he left

airmark:


Where were you when he clinched a world cup medal and was the 2nd best player in the last world cup?

Celebration of mediocrity.

NinjaXmetahuman:
lol you really want to use tuchel?

Tuchel spent less than 2 years and over achieved with the so called players you said were struggling.

Fraudiola spent 6 years with players that are not struggling, yet his biggest achievement is just local trophies after outspending every single big spending manager in history. Sorry I'm not impressed.

That's the trajectory. 20+ goals and assist under pelegrini
30+ goals under fraudiola.

Let's not forget pelegrini was using zabaleta and Clichy you considered bad and sterling still got 20+ ga
Fraudiola came and spend about 300 million dollars on that same squad that season, yet his goal output dipped.

You have run away from the sterling talk ?

Pellegrini was using zabaleta and clichy ,no wonder they came 3rd Abi 4th before pep arrived ,pep had to go through the ucl play offs

Sterling goal and assist dipped ? Bro you don’t need to be shameless with your full chest

Tuchel won ucl ,but can you say ziyech harvetz aren’t struggling ? If you say they aren’t struggling then no problem

You cannot discredit guardiola because of your jealousy ,the earlier you know the better for you ,you can only do that with your fellow epl fans who hates him for making their teams look useless .