Michael547:

Galapagos finches exhibited variations within a family. Did that change it to a completely different animal?
Has bacterials evolved into something new? Are they not still bacterials?

The two are different animals.

They cannot mate, can you mate with a gorilla?
Are you not the same family of animal with a gorilla?

Workch:
tell me where thy came from?

Where? Magic?

Do your research about that since evolution has faulted in that regard.

Michael547:

So if evolution does not work that way, how can all different kinds of living organism come from a single living cell?

Yes, you are a distant cousin to a bacteria and that why you have exact the same set of 40 genes with Bacteria.
Every organism are distant cousins.

How can animals be appearing and disappearing?

You are funny

Workch:
The two are different animals.

They cannot mate, can you mate with a gorilla?
Are you not the same family of animal with a gorilla?

This reinforces the ideas that there are biological barriers between groups of animals that evolution cannot still answer except we are to accept it by faith.

Michael547:

Do your research about that since evolution has faulted in that regard.

So your god creates new animals every 30years because we have seen many new animal come almost every 30years.

The most recent ones were new frogs in Australia and sarcov 2.

You should have the answers and not tell me to research

Michael547:

This reinforces the ideas that there are biological barriers between groups of animals that evolution cannot still answer except we are to accept it by faith.

Should we conclude that the disppearances and appearances are caused by your god?

Instead of a more logical answer of evolution?

Workch:
Yes, you are a distant cousin to a bacteria and that why you have exact the same set of 40 genes with Bacteria.
Every organism are distant cousins.

How can animals be appearing and disappearing?

You are funny

If then we are all distant cousins, why cant we interbreed. What is the explanation for that?

Michael547:

If then we are all distant cousins, why cant we interbreed. What is the explanation for that?

The same reason why the new Galapagos finch that emerged 30years Ago can interbreed with its immediate ancestry.

Are they not all birds? or you are doubting that it didn’t evolve? Because the evidence is everywhere online

Workch:

Should we conclude that the disppearances and appearances are caused by your god?

Instead of a more logical answer of evolution?

Evolution has not been logical to me as a result of lack of evidence. What I see around me does not support it. I have been moved to look elsewhere to find out how life could have started and how different organism could have appeared suddenly.

Workch:
The same reason why the new Galapagos finch that emerged 30years Ago can interbreed with its immediate ancestry.

Are they not all birds? or you are doubting that it didn’t evolve? Because the evidence is everywhere online

What did the new Galapagos finch evolved into? Explain better.

Michael547:

Evolution has not been logical to me as a result of lack of evidence. What I see around me does not support it. I have been moved to look elsewhere to find out how life could have started and how different organism could have appeared suddenly.

But you just agreed that a new Galapagos finch species evolved, is that not evolution?
What’s that?

If evolution is not true, then how did HIV emerge 40years Ago?

Where did it come from ?

Your god did it?

Michael547:

What did the new Galapagos finch evolved into? Explain better.

How is that a question?
How does that refute the fact that a new Galapagos finch species emerged?

Whatever it evolved into doesn’t matter to this discussion

Michael547:

What did the new Galapagos finch evolved into? Explain better.

IF evolution is not true, then how come I share 50# DNA with bananas? Your god did it?

It’s basically the answer for everything in religion

Workch:
But you just agreed that a new Galapagos finch species evolved, is that not evolution?
What’s that?

If evolution is not true, then how did HIV emerge 40years Ago?

Where did it come from ?

Your god did it?

You are really confusing with your explain of evolution. Is evolution no longer the change of a specific organism or animal into another organism? Is the new Galapagos finch not still a finch like its parents?

Michael547:

You are really confusing with your explain of evolution. Is evolution no longer the change of a specific organism or animal into another organism? Is the new Galapagos finch not still a finch like its parents?

But you and gorrila are both apes but different organisms.

The bird is still a finch but different organism.

Do you still need education on the definition of organism?

We have proven to you that one organism can turn to another over time. Yes

Michael547:

You are really confusing with your explain of evolution. Is evolution no longer the change of a specific organism or animal into another organism? Is the new Galapagos finch not still a finch like its parents?

A bobcat and a house cat are cats but different organisms.

An ananconda and a rattle snakes are both snakes but different organisms.

How’s that a tall order to grasp?

Are you okay?

Michael547:

You are really confusing with your explain of evolution. Is evolution no longer the change of a specific organism or animal into another organism? Is the new Galapagos finch not still a finch like its parents?

We have many instance or one organism turning into another.

It’s not my fault if you don’t know the definition of “organism”

Workch:
But you and gorrila are both apes but different organisms.

The bird is still a finch but different organism.

Do you still need education on the definition of organism?

We have proven to you that one organism can turn to another over time. Yes

I am not an ape I beg your pardon.
How can the bird still be a finch and a new organism instead of a new specie of finch that is still made up of the same biological structure as its parents?

Michael547:

I am not an ape I beg your pardon.
How can the bird still be a finch and a new organism instead of a new specie of finch that is still made up of the same biological structure as its parents?

By all standard, you are an ape.

Stop mentioning organisms, you don’t know the definition of that word.


Check for the definition of organism and correct yourself

Workch:
By all standard, you are an ape.

Stop mentioning organisms, you don’t know the definition of that word.


Check for the definition of organism and correct yourself

Alright let's call it a day so we can still respect each other. Good night.

Michael547:

Alright let's call it a day so we can still respect each other. Good night.

Well, Sleep well great Ape species

Workch:
If the Genesis story is literally true, then evolution (and almost everything else about science) is wrong. Simple.

However, even the Catholic Pope doesn’t believe that the Adam & Eve story is literally true. http://www.newadvent.org/library/docs_jp02tc.htm

And we know that microwave ovens work, mobile phones work and satellite GPS works, so not everything about science is wrong.

That leaves you with interpreting the Adam & Eve story as an allegory (for something) or as a method that the people of that time used to convey religious and cultural values.

It doesn’t make sense on any level to me, but I accept that others find meaning there.

Assume that Adam and Eve were the first humans on Earth and that they were of the same race. Their continued offspring would have had to evolve into all the different ethnic people of the world and this is hard to fault because otherwise there would not be such a variety of humans around the world. That is, evolution would have had to take place for the changes to occur. If that part of evolution is accepted why not the whole of evolution from primitive life to successively more complex life? Adam was possibly a complex molecule, which had not yet triggered into life.

The Bible, Tora and Qur’an does not say this, however. God made Adam in his own image, a fully modern human being. These books are wrong.

You have to accept evolution in its entirety and not pick bits, which fit in the gaps in the story presented in the aforementioned books.

Evolution doesn't make sense. What stop apes from continuing to evolve today

Osamabinladenik:
Lol, you guys always have a way to defend you silly Bible stories

In other to prove a point, you sound disjointed. To each, his own. Bring out your proofs and market it in such a way that you don’t sound offensive, vile or outrightly stupidd.

Bible Proofs:

*In 1990 Frank Yurco, an Egyptologist at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago used hieroglyphic clues from a monolith known as the Merneptah Stele to identify figures in a Luxor wall relief as ancient Israelites. The stele itself, dated to 1207 B.C. celebrates a military victory by the Pharaoh Merneptah. “Israel is laid waste” it reads. This lets us know the Israelites were a separate people more than 3,000 years ago.

*Some historians insist the Canaanites were a dying culture when the Israelites gradually moved in and took over their lands. This actually supports the Bible which has God saying to the Israelites

"And I will send hornets [despair] before thee, which shall drive out the Hivite, the Canaanite, and the Hittite, from before thee. I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee. By little and little I will drive them out from before thee until thou be increased, and inherit the land." Exodus 23:28-30 King James Authorized.


*For example, until 1993 there was no proof of the existence of King David or even of Israel as a nation prior to Solomon. Then in 1993 archeologists found proof of King David's existence outside the Bible. At an ancient mound called Tel Dan, in the north of Israel, words carved into a chunk of basalt were translated as "House of David" and "King of Israel". This proved that David was more than just a legend.

Dtruthspeaker:


So as Obasanjo and Oshiomole resemble monkey they came from monkeys?

So which animal, Chidi Mokeme, Majid Michel and Jaimie in Game of Thrones come from?

Come to think of it there are no white apes so where did white people come from?

That is very unkind bro

Michael 547
Oil de your head!!!
Very intelligent of you
Do not mind that Worksh
He's very indecisive, looking for people to embrace his false ideologies

The other guy said Abiogenesis is not fact YET
That's ridiculous as Abiogenesis had been killed and nailed into a coffin by louis pasteur since what year?
Abiogenesis is the backbone of organic evolution?
If Abiogenesis was dead, organic evolution is a dead scientific philosophy as well. Full of scientific myths and assumptions.

I was watching National Geographic watching an hippopotamus. The commentator said it evolved from sharks. Imagine?!

It could have made sense if it were an aquatic fish that fed on plants but sharks. How possible?
Looking at the teeth structure of both, the habitat, the digestive system, reproductive system, reproductive system, everything and habits and mode of feeding. Is that not evolutionary myth? Yet people swallow it cos it is science that said so cos they want to be wise

Workch:
But theory of Evolution is science.

If Evolution is not true then how did we get Asians, Caucasians and Africans from Adam and Eve’s genes?
bt
Between them, who was Chinese, Indian, African or European? If none, then how did we get all these races?

omo we should knw that the bible literally talks more about the hebrews/middle east people so possible Adam/Eve were the first people on that side .just like the yorubas claim odudowa is the first human. Other nations/regions have their story to tell. Imagine the natives in america and australia, carribean islands. They definitely have their own story to tell.

Mr. Workch your patience is admirable but you should know now that those who put faith above reality cannot be reasoned with.

SouthSouth1914:


Bible Proofs:

*In 1990 Frank Yurco, an Egyptologist at the Field Museum of Natural History in Chicago used hieroglyphic clues from a monolith known as the Merneptah Stele to identify figures in a Luxor wall relief as ancient Israelites. The stele itself, dated to 1207 B.C. celebrates a military victory by the Pharaoh Merneptah. “Israel is laid waste” it reads. This lets us know the Israelites were a separate people more than 3,000 years ago.

I.si.ri.ar = Israel?
Something to ponder:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias

Petrie called upon Wilhelm Spiegelberg, a German philologist in his archaeological team, to translate the inscription. Spiegelberg was puzzled by one symbol towards the end, that of a people or tribe whom Merneptah (also written Merenptah) had victoriously smitten – I.si.ri.ar? Petrie quickly suggested that it read "Israel!" Spiegelberg agreed that this translation must be correct.[1] "Won't the reverends be pleased?" remarked Petrie. At dinner that evening, Petrie who realized the importance of the find said: "This stele will be better known in the world than anything else I have found." The news of its discovery made headlines when it reached the English papers.[1]

ReacherSaidNoth:
Mr. Workch your patience is admirable but you should know now that those who put faith above reality cannot be reasoned with.

I was once like them so there is hope that something will get through.

Michael547:

You are really confusing with your explain of evolution. Is evolution no longer the change of a specific organism or animal into another organism?

Nope. Even if an organism never branches into another specie it is still evolving because evolution is the propagation of inheritable changes in a biological population. It could be that those changes bring about enough differentiation to bring about a new species or not, that cannot be predicted until it occurs.

LordReed:


Nope. Even if an organism never branches into another specie it is still evolving because evolution is the propagation of inheritable changes in a biological population. It could be that those changes bring about enough differentiation to bring about a new species or not, that cannot be predicted until it occurs.

So why can it not be predicted?
Are there any evidence that shows that a single cell produced all the groups of animals we have today? Are we to hope for evolution by faith?

Michael547:

So why can it not be predicted?
Are there any evidence that shows that a single cell produced all the groups of animals we have today? Are we to hope for evolution by faith?

Because you cannot know before hand what changes are going to occur and if the changes are going to be propagated in the population. For example if 2 people with sickle cell genes (AS) have a children, there is no way to predict which of their children will have the full sickle cell gene expression (SS).

There is evidence that unicellular organisms can become multicellular organisms.