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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 7:56am On Dec 03, 2022 |
larride:When will you guys stop this blame game? Any system or policy that requires people to be of their best behavior to function has failed from the get-go. What is APC doing doing to make it impossible/discourage small-time marketers from jacking up the price? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 8:01am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Itsrm:Lols. What question? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 8:02am On Dec 03, 2022 |
larride: From what I was able to gather, the marketers say its not from them. They said because NNPC is unable to distribute fuel to the various depot due to pipeline vandalism, some independent companies who own tank farms have to lift the petrol from NNPC and sell to marketers. They claim those ones are responsible for inflating the price. They also said some very big marketers have their own tank farms or they can afford to buy in very large quantities from those who own tank farms hence the reason they can still sell at 180 naira. Those of them who are small players don't have a choice. They claim they don't even get the fuel at 180 so they can't sell at 180. NB: I have not verified any of these. Just putting out what I heard from the marketers. ![]() |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 8:09am On Dec 03, 2022 |
A001: Ah great! Your latest solution is for us to move to regional government or break up. So, let's asssume we move to regional government or breakup today, how will this solve the issue of bad leaders, corruption and poverty across each region? 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:11am On Dec 03, 2022 |
I mean I know the left lobbied twitter to help with the elections but to this degree.. Omo... https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598826284477427713?t=t97D4iOq3hSjpP-EJN0diQ&s=19 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by A001: 8:22am On Dec 03, 2022 |
diggz:I'll answer your question when I'm less busy. I don't have the luxury of time to type a lengthy post now. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 8:27am On Dec 03, 2022 |
A001: Lol... I can't wait to hear from you ![]() |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 8:32am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ellexy:The question was clearly a rhetorical one because in the next paragraph, you stated that Some countries has these issues ( what issues?) and are working great . In simpler terms, you claimed that this issues shouldn't stop Nigeria from working considering that some countries are performing well while experiencing them. My question remains: Which country/countries are experiencing this issues we share in common and are performing better than Nigeria P.S. My reference to tribes, religion and co was me trying to make this issues less ambiguous eg When you mentioned different religion,you failed to explain whether it is a 40/40/20 split or a 70/16/4 split like Isreal. 2 Likes
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 8:37am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ibime: He is not aware that a couple of years back, around 500 million indians had no toilet. The India where politicians still share tampons during campaign. Some people view Nigeria weirdly compared to how they view the rest of the "developing world". I can't count the number of times someone has hyped Indonesia after Obi mentioned it in one of his interview. Asin Indonesia Edited:Links to the Indian Toilet access bruhaha. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/2/modi-declares-india-open-defecation-free-claim-questioned As far back as 2013, you needed a toilet to get a bride( make you and your in law fit they use) https://slate.com/human-interest/2013/05/no-toilet-no-bride-initiative-targets-sexual-violence-in-india.html https://m.thewire.in/article/health/732-million-india-tops-list-number-people-without-access-toilets-report https://www.voanews.com/a/south-central-asia_worlds-biggest-toilet-building-program-india-gets-mixed-results/6177168.html 7 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:38am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Itsrm: The large marketers take their image and reputation seriously. Especially in places like lagos. During one fuel scarcity a customer at one of our stations started filming and shouting that the pump meter was adjusted. The man was livid. You know how it is when your 4k that fills keg is showing 3/4 keg. The video went round sm and cascaded to me around 11pm. Next day we were at the station to investigate and of course the pumps had been adjusted. But your small marketer has no such structure Also - subsidy or underrecovery or whatever name it is is purely nnpc. Everyone is buying from nnpc. NNPC is the sole umbrella importer of pms into Nigeria from 2015. No marketer will being in pms. I am not even sure any major marketer was ever fully paid their subsidy arrears As for nnpc they are busy trying to consolidate into a behemoth. They have money. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:42am On Dec 03, 2022 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:48am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Nostradamus1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l01AMCBG0Wk Obligatory I actually try to use Indonesia and India as naija equivalents when trying to develop solutions So if something can demonstrably make money in India, it will work here and it can actually have proof of value, not proof of concept. One key difference from where I stand Indians will not Bleep over their country for small change. They forced huawei and Co to sell telco hardware at a lower rate in India. Nigerians will just demand bribe and then let the shit fly. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 8:49am On Dec 03, 2022 |
.... Thanks bro |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 8:50am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:52am On Dec 03, 2022 |
diggz: After I delete you still continue ![]() |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 8:52am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Nostradamus1: Part of the Asain transformation started with Indonesia. I have watched a documentary on how Indonesia's economy started to boom in the 80s. There's nothing wrong if anyone refers to their history as a guide. There are still ideologies there that can be useful. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 8:54am On Dec 03, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Lol... I don edit the post I use quote you. Thank you |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 8:56am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Nostradamus1: Bro sorry to bother you. Can I ask that you unquote GloriousG post PLEASE, and edit/delete yours for now too. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 8:59am On Dec 03, 2022 |
izzou: First world solutions cannot work over here. So when some bright eyed entrepreneur starts saying things like solar energy, green energy, first look to places like India, Indonesia etal to see if it is actually working there. Even then there will still be the Nigerian factors, but you have a start. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:00am On Dec 03, 2022 |
diggz: Diggz dey wicked pass nihilistjnr. He too dey cook. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 9:01am On Dec 03, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: Lol... Nihilistjnr na my Oga on top. Meanwhile, I no dey cook anything I just want the guy to educate me ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 9:08am On Dec 03, 2022 |
GloriousGbola: I am not saying it would work. I'm saying Obi referring to Indonesia wasn't out of place. It really did experience economic growth at some point. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by diggz: 9:10am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Nostradamus1: Thanks bro |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:11am On Dec 03, 2022 |
izzou: We are saying the same thing. Look to the progress of countries that are analogous to yours. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 9:14am On Dec 03, 2022 |
izzou: I don't think I mentioned anywhere that we don't need to learn from them. Even building 110million toilets in 60 months is very impressive ( if they actually did).My point is that this countries are as much of a shithole as Nigeria |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:28am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Nostradamus1: Apple is going to start making iPhones in India. Several companies are making India a manufacturing hub. Most hard drives are assembled in Thailand. If they get a flood, the it industry will catch cold. The US lost the war in Vietnam, but today they are doing a lot of manufacturing there. All this means jobs, a growing middle class, leverage, forex. It is not rocket science. It is also something that ambitious, far thinking leaders can use to change the balance of power. The Western world is struggling to extricate itself from China. Covid showed just how far capitalist ojukokoro has given China the Gbola to Fk the west in the arse with. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:29am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Theflint1: Ignore that propagandist and his baseless obfuscation of the observed reality. Pick up your phone to call the Chairperson of IPMAN (Independent Petroleum Marketers Association of Nigeria). Introduce yourself and tell him/her you want petrol supplied to you. If he's comfortable with you during the conversation, ask him to tell you the landing cost and barge cost. He'd tell you it's more than #180 per litre on the average. Call another one and you'd get the same price. If you want, I'd do a conference call with the Chairmen of IPMAN for two states to confirm yourself. These ignorânt fôöls think they can lie to everyone without check. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 9:35am On Dec 03, 2022 |
As at today, the only people supplying fuel (petrol and diesel) cheaper are oil bunkerers with (illegal) private refineries in the creeks of Rivers, Abia, Delta, and Bayelsa. Fueling Station owners know this. Even major suppliers get from these people. I'd rather not reveal more. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 9:40am On Dec 03, 2022 |
nihilistjnr: It is very funny to compare Nigeria with a country like India which has a dominant cross-ethnic indigenous language, a dominant religion, and THOUSANDS OF YEARS of intermingling, and on several occasions over the past millennia, instances of political union. Most of the different ethnic groups have been in close social and political contact for at least 2.500 years and on a number occasions you had a single entity controlling most of the country BEFORE the British got there. The major stumbling block to Indian progress was avoided when Mohammed Ali Jinnah and his people insisted on a separate Muslim state at independence. This could have been done in Nigeria if our leaders had insisted on the North and South gaining independence separately. With all these, at the individual citizen level the average Indian is only marginally better of than the average Nigerian. India’s advantage is about size. 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Nostradamus1: 9:45am On Dec 03, 2022 |
GloriousGbola:Also in Nigeria, there are a good number of foreigners providing Jobs . It is simply because of the cheap labour which we provide and technical know-how ( India tops this list but we are comfortably there) You can check the industrial production index and you will see that Nigeria is performing at par with Vietnam and Thailand you mentioned. India "threatened" Twitter on certain issues but when FG did it with a view of getting tax( it wasnt their initial plan though) a lot of people critized and insulted them. A lot of people simply don't like Nigeria and it is funny because we growing at a good rate . I still insist that all these countries fall within the same shithole bracket. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:46am On Dec 03, 2022 |
DissTroy: The last time I checked the only fuel being 'refined' by bunkerers is diesel. That is all they can achieve with their contraption operation. And that diesel has a low gravity/density which damages generator lift pumps over time. It will do same to heavy duty vehicles. No major marketer is going to expose themselves to the fall out from dodgy fuel. A crooked dealer might, but that will usually have fall out as the fuel will damage dispensing pumps at which point grammer will start. Dealers for major marketers are getting warning memos straight from head office. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 9:50am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Nostradamus1: I disagree as I am talking about products for commercial export. What finished goods are being assembled or fabricated in Nigeria for export to the west of High standards? India has abandoned twitter long since for koo, where they can engage in cancelling of indias Muslims to their hearts content. That is how you do it. |
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