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Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Nobody: 11:58am On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020: Cowardly manner? You don't see the irony in you , a yiibo from a lineage of palm wine tappers and traders who never fought (not to talk of won) a single war, calling me, a Yoruba from a lineage of warriors that built the great Oyo Empire based on conquests a coward. Or, like other braindead yiibos, you think making noise up and down and beating your chest like a gorilla makes you brave, right? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by ba7man(m): 12:01pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Building empty mansions in the bushes from mostly proceeds of drug trade isn't the same as building a society. 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 5:55pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:No you cannot call it a democracy if women are excluded A misogynistic society cannot claim to be democratic You think it is justified to hate women to the extent they cannot inherit their father's property To the extent they cannot own land and want to claim to be democratic. No You cannot call it a democracy if you label some people Osus and exclude them To talk of democracies you must talk of nations What you had is little hamlets and clans in the rain forest governed by a powerful few. A village level oligarchy. You had not yet evolved to the level of even tiny nation states such as the Ijaws, or Itsekiris had 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Probz(m): 6:01pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Shiver99: Abiriba’s very okay. |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 6:19pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Abiriba operates a MONARCHICAL SYSTEM True or False? 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Jesuschristonw: 7:27pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Probz: omonnakoda:
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Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Jesuschristonw: 7:29pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
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Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 7:57pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:Stop talking rubbish if you have nothing to say, women own property in their husbands village. The OSU would have been executed by your blood thirsty despotic kings, but we gave them chance to appeal. Property ownership has nothing to do with democracy. We had a paliarment and there was separation of powers. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 7:58pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:Continue spewing ignorance |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 7:59pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:You are the one talking rubbish You claim to operate a democracy but women are second class citizens You have Osus What kind of democracy is that Is Abiriba a Monarchy yes or no? YOu go around saying you have no kings so tell us whether there are Kings in Arochukwu Oguta Onitsha Nri |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 8:05pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
HedwigesMaduro:Oyo that was sacked by Nupes and Fulanis? Oyo was never an empire as it never controlled multi ethnic population like Benin. Oyo refugees fleeing Fulanis invasion founded Ibadan. We the igbos never engaged in meaningless millitary conquest because we already know long ago that future wars, conquest, and empire building will be based on economic invasion so we planned ahead. Today Nnewi will thrash Oyo in all aspects, a feat it achieved not by millitary conquest but economic conquest 4 Likes |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 8:08pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:Only igboland subjected decision making process to voting in pre colonial era. Only Igbos had a parliament. This are democratic institutions that shows advanced evolution. Not feudal conquest by despotic kings 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 8:10pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
ba7man:Clustering mudhouses with rusted roofs is building a society abi? 6 Likes |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 8:12pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:Yes we know that only Igboland had the internet in the 19th century You can wake up overdose on akpu and start talking all manner of rubbish The question once again Is Abiriba a monarchy yes or no Women had no say Osus had no say That is not a democracy Is Arochukwu a monarchy? What about Oguta Onitsha? Nri? Keep deceiving yourself |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by nedekid: 8:13pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
KwaraRat:Your name says it all. Not more is expected. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Queenslander(f): 8:20pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
So true, villages in igboland are the best,. No cap!! Compared to those in omo igbe republic 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 8:21pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:Oha is the parliament while eze is the "king" who is not actually a king because he does not weild absolute power like a normal king. In this way, decision is made by Oha na Eze (parliament and "king". This is where the Apex Igbo socio political group derived it's name, Ohaneze. "Oha" simply means the general public (or Representatives thereof) . They meet with the Eze and difficult decision are resolved through voting. Guy, we are the oldest democracy know to mankind 5 Likes |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 8:27pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:Who told you that other people/s kings wield absolute power? No where do kings have absolute power First you say you had no kings now you admit you had but they did not have absolute power Leave story What dirty parliament? Who was eligible for parliament? Oh yes we know Igbos were the first to have PVCs too Parliament that has no room for women and Osus? What was the population of the biggest igbo village in history before 1900? You were forest dwellers do not talk as if you had any town in Igbo land before you start deceiving yourself talking of parliaments? Name one town in Igboland that had settlers from elsewhere that were not conquerors Was there ANY community in Igboland with 5000 people before 1900 . NAME IT There were monarchs in Igboland so stop the lies |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 8:39pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:The women have their own paliarment separately, known as umuada. The OSU are like prisoners, but guarded by gods instead of soldiers. Do prisoners participate in Nigeria today?. Guy, we no be your mate 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 8:40pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Meanwhile, this is Enugu-Agidi village in Anambra state https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClCWWBsCZBk&t=237s 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 8:42pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:You are deceiving yourself Igbo society was not democratic and there are several examples of monarchies Monarchies effectively tend to be Oligarchies where a small number of big men share power to the exclusion of the majority That is how Igbo villages were governed .Women had no say Osus had no say That is not democracy |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 8:51pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:Ignorance everywhere, umuada weild enormous power that no women group can boast of in pre colonial Africa. Remember Aba women riot? No culture empower women like Igbo culture 3 Likes
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Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 8:56pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:Rubbish Influence of people who cannot inherit their father's property? Who are you deceiving Women were chattels , owned property Full stop How can you talk of Women's influence in an Umunna system Igboland never evolved beyond village mentality A woman necessarily in Igboland will marry outside her village or clan So what say can she have in the government of the village when she departs for her husband's village as his PROPERTY |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 9:00pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:If you have no points to argue with just shut up 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 9:03pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:Points 1. Many Monarchies in Igboland Oguta, Aro, Onitsha, Nri, Abiriba 2. Women disenfranchised in Igboland with no say in government 3. Women disenfranchised with no inheritance rights 4. Women dehumanized by barbaric mourning custom 5. Osus disenfranchised by barbaric caste system rules 6. Calling It democracy is dishonest. Government of the people by the rich and powerful for the rich and powerful |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 9:10pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:I have addressed the issues women and OSU already Aro was a Confederacy, Abiriba, Ohafia, Edda and Afikpo were other towns to formed the Confederacy with arochukwu. It was quite similar to the Greek City states of Athens, Sparta, Troy etc Nri was a religious center Onitsha and Oguta are from Ezechime clan who came from the other side of the Niger with Benin influence 2 Likes
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Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 9:15pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:You have not Is Abiriba a Monarchy? Is Aro a monarchy Is Onitsha a Monarchy? What about Nri and Oguta? It is fraudulent to claim to be democratic do Igbo women remain in their father's villages? That is part of the primitive Umunna system. So if they are married off How can they contribute? Because you never evolved beyond village level governance you have Umunna mentality You never had TOWNS and so necessarily women have to leave their fatherland |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 9:19pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:Check my update please and quote again if you have something new |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 9:21pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:Nonsense and rubbish Is Abiriba no longer a monarchy ? Igbo women have no say in how their father land is governed Osu caste system is not democratic You are not democrats or egalitarian as you claim Igboland was run as an OLIGARCHY |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by Ogbuefi2020: 9:24pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
omonnakoda:You have nothing to argue with any longer, endeavor to read the full story about umuada and tell me any pre colonial African society where women had such powers
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Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 9:28pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
Ogbuefi2020:What dirty story? Who wrote it and WHEN? You want to launder your dirty history with latter day revisionism Chinua Achebe painted a perfect picture of 19th century Igbo land in his novels Women were not involved in governance Igbo women were not allowed to inherit their fathers property that says it all Now tell us whether Abiriba , Aro , Oguta , Onitsha are monarchies? Yes or No? 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Villages Are The Best In Nigeria by omonnakoda: 9:37pm On Dec 03, 2022 |
The moral of the story is this Any time you start any of these we are the best threads It WILL END IN TEARS 1 Like |
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