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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 9:56pm On Dec 03, 2022
Aemmyjah:

Max is my brother
Cornelboy is also my brother.
I have millions
Can you identify yours?

dum false jw, u think i want to chat with you/satans mob,
i occasionally show up false jw lies and confusion, etc. etc. etc.
like i have with you:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

and your fearful paranoia is from your devil too:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by johnw47: 10:09pm On Dec 03, 2022
MaxInDHouse:

All religionists that can't present their group as unique are his brethren! cheesy

Ecclesiastes 7:6
For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool

we Christians who have Christ don't need a sect, oh big dummy

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by OgaNightmare(m): 3:15am On Dec 04, 2022
A psychiatric patient in my mentions grin grin grin
Janosky is not normal

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by OgaNightmare(m): 3:20am On Dec 04, 2022
Aemmyjah:


Even Jehovah appeals to us
He does not force anyone

He's free to decide who he'll choose to serve
The God I serve is Infinite, Eternal, Omniscient and Omnipresent.
He has been from all ages and has subjected all things to his begotten, Christ who is from Everlasting.

Jehovah of the Watchtower is a different God, who wants you to forsake your brain and avoid critical thinking and will surely kill you during Armageddon

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by OgaNightmare(m): 3:26am On Dec 04, 2022
Courz:


Janosky with your Maggot infested brain, try to stop smoking that igbo that makes you type rubbish without reading the comment you are quoting. You are mentally diseased! Look at the Bible verses below. It is actually John in the book of Revelations that was in the Spirit. I am sure your eyes will see double and you will become more confused seeing these verses since you JWs hardly read them. You only read verses that Watchtower dictates to you. Satan's Witnesses. grin grin

"In [the] spirit "(pneumati [Koine Greek])
Courz no need wasting your time, he will still continue to fool himself with useless screenshots.
He's more of a bot....... according to his logic John was transformed to an immaterial being grin grin grin grin

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by OgaNightmare(m): 3:30am On Dec 04, 2022
Courz:


Ask this Igbo smoker Janosky why this Bible verse with the phrase underlined exists in his Bible yet they teach something else in their Kingdom hall as the Antichrists that they are. Instead of answering you, he will go and smoke another joint of Igbo then reply with the words IBERIBEISM and Gibberish all over his comment. You will be doubting that you are chatting with a human. grin grin cheesy
The guy just speaks out if context, he tries to prove a point but ends up making himself look stupid grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by OgaNightmare(m): 3:34am On Dec 04, 2022
Courz:


Ask this Igbo smoker Janosky why this Bible verse with the phrase underlined exists in his Bible yet they teach something else in their Kingdom hall as the Antichrists that they are. Instead of answering you, he will go and smoke another joint of Igbo then reply with the words IBERIBEISM and Gibberish all over his comment. You will be doubting that you are chatting with a human. grin grin cheesy
They are going to say that the great crowd there are angels grin grin grin grin Very silly set of people
When you show them that the ones in Chapter7 serve in God's temple ([naos] ; sanctuary- divine habitation) day and night but they will still deny it and say it's earthly courtyard grin grin grin grin grin
The even lied in a particular Watchtower study article in the 80's that (hieron) is the Greek word used at Rev7. People detected the lie and exposed them.
One of the things that woked up Peter Gregerson

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:04am On Dec 04, 2022
OgaNightmare:

The God I serve is Infinite, Eternal, Omniscient and Omnipresent.
He has been from all ages and has subjected all things to his begotten, Christ who is from Everlasting.

Jehovah of the Watchtower is a different God, who wants you to forsake your brain and avoid critical thinking and will surely kill you during Armageddon

OK
I'm sure your god is not a nameless person
You could identify mine
Distinguish your fruitage and mine, 'by their works, you'll know who's serving the true God
You don't know what Armageddon is
Prove anywhere from scripture about omniscience or omnipresence

The God I worship resides in the heavens but yours is omnipresence (synonymous to ubiquitous meaning everywhere at the same time) for example, wind.
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Ken4Christ: 7:31am On Dec 04, 2022
Janosky:

Mumu Pastorpreneur forgot John 17:4-5,24. grin
Jesus Christ was a glorified spirit before his Father sent him to earth.
He goes back to heaven as a glorified spirit.
There, resurrected humans transformed to spirits will dwell with God and His Son Jesus Christ, John 17:24.

ONLY those spirits dwelling with God in heaven possess sinless glorious bodies.

Not men in this sinful imperfect world where God's mercy speaks.



Apostle Paul said those who are in Christ and alive at the time Christ comes will all be caught up in the air - 1st Thessalonians 4:13-16.

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:09am On Dec 04, 2022
Aemmyjah:


OK
I'm sure your god is not a nameless person
You could identify mine
Distinguish your fruitage and mine, 'by their works, you'll know who's serving the true God
You don't know what Armageddon is
Prove anywhere from scripture about omniscience or omnipresence

The God I worship resides in the heavens but yours is omnipresence (synonymous to ubiquitous meaning everywhere at the same time) for example, wind.

They only open their mouth when they see JWs preaching zealously if JWs should stop preaching Churchgoers don't have anything tangible to preach even they themselves are tired and confused about their Heaven/ HellFire stuff! wink

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 9:07am On Dec 04, 2022
OgaNightmare:

They are going to say that the great crowd there are angels grin grin grin grin Very silly set of people
When you show them that the ones in Chapter7 serve in God's temple ([naos] ; sanctuary- divine habitation) day and night but they will still deny it and say it's earthly courtyard grin grin grin grin grin
The even lied in a particular Watchtower study article in the 80's that (hieron) is the Greek word used at Rev7. People detected the lie and exposed them.
One of the things that woked up Peter Gregerson

At the bolded, that was exactly what a JW told me. He said the Great Crowd are the angels that is why they are many in number. First, he started with A Great crowd is different from The Great Crowd. I said, but A Great crowd is what is mentioned in the verses JWs like to quote in Revelation 7 vs 9 and that is where JWs got The Great Crowd from showing that they are the same. Okay, Show me the differences in the Bible. When he saw that logic didn't work for him, He then lied that he didn't mean that they are different then jumped to Great crowd being Angels. Changing tune. I asked him, does that mean that one of the 24 Elders lied to John in the The book of Revelations, that a Great crowd are actually the people from all corners of the earth that survived the Great Tribulation? He couldn't answer. Okay, show me where a Great Crowd were specifically identified as Angels. He kept mute. I asked him, does that mean the Angels are humans now who were on the earth and went through the Great Tribulation on earth? If all the Angels are on earth, it means they are humans. Which one will be in Heaven? Does that mean there are two separate Great crowds? Does that mean that anywhere you see angels mentioned, it means a Great Crowd? He couldn't say anything. I showed him verses where a Great crowd and angels are mentioned at the same time in the same chapter. I asked him, why are they both mentioned if they are the same? He then ran away with a speed of light.

This proved to me that in order for JWs to defend their doctrines, they need to lie and formulate their own beliefs and fantasies separate from the Bible.

I don't know how Watchtower interprets the verse of the Great Crowd standing in front of the Throne and the lamb as they being on earth. Thank God other translations plainly say In front of the Throne and the Lamb. Another JW was trying to redefine what that means When it is very clear that the Bible is written in simple English. I asked him, If someone is standing in front of you, where is the person? He went into robotic mode and was blabbing rubbish. I kept repeating it again and again, he ran away. But lo and behold, Revelation 19 vs 1 says that the Great crowd are in Heaven right there in their Bible. Isn't it wonderful how simple English can make JWs look stupid? So, no matter how they try to twist the meaning of words, this verse has already trashed their doctrine to nothing. I also noticed that Watchtower never quotes this particular verse and it is obvious why. This is how you know that this Cult is a Fraud.

Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 9:09am On Dec 04, 2022
OgaNightmare:

The guy just speaks out if context, he tries to prove a point but ends up making himself look stupid grin grin grin grin grin

Janosky smokes igbo before replying anybody on Nairaland. There are JWs that smoke in secret. grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 9:11am On Dec 04, 2022
OgaNightmare:


"In [the] spirit "(pneumati [Koine Greek])
Courz no need wasting your time, he will still continue to fool himself with useless screenshots.
He's more of a bot....... according to his logic John was transformed to an immaterial being grin grin grin grin

grin grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 5:24pm On Dec 04, 2022
Courz:


Janosky with your Maggot infested brain, try to stop smoking that igbo that makes you type rubbish without reading the comment you are quoting. You are mentally diseased! Look at the Bible verses below. It is actually John in the book of Revelations that was in the Spirit. I am sure your eyes will see double and you will become more confused seeing these verses since you JWs hardly read them. You only read verses that Watchtower dictates to you. Satan's Witnesses. grin grin
OgaNightmare:

In [the] spirit "(pneumati [Koine Greek])
Courz no need wasting your time, he will still continue to fool himself with useless screenshots.
He's more of a bot....... according to his logic John was transformed to an immaterial being.


LYING IBERIBEISTS,@ 1 Peter 3:18 was Jesus given a vision of heaven?grin grin grin

This DUBIOUS IBERIBEISTS, where is Greek 2227 "Made Alive" in your quote of Revelation 4:4?

Did your own Revelation 4:4 said "John was put to death in the flesh" Greek 2289?

This Silly Oga,@ Revelation 4:4,why would John be a spirit in heaven when he was not put to death in the flesh?



Revelation 4:4, John was given a vision of heaven as if he was there, the same manner as if "you are there " in the crowd viewing live EPL match.
These empty dimwits exposing their IBERIBEISM .gringrin
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 5:32pm On Dec 04, 2022
Courz:


At the bolded, that was exactly what a JW told me. He said the Great Crowd are the angels that is why they are many in number. First, he started with A Great crowd is different from The Great Crowd. I said, but A Great crowd is what is mentioned in the verses JWs like to quote in Revelation 7 vs 9 and that is where JWs got The Great Crowd from showing that they are the same. Okay, Show me the differences in the Bible. When he saw that logic didn't work for him, He then lied that he didn't mean that they are different then jumped to Great crowd being Angels. Changing tune. I asked him, does that mean that one of the 24 Elders lied to John in the The book of Revelations, that a Great crowd are actually the people from all corners of the earth that survived the Great Tribulation? He couldn't answer. Okay, show me where a Great Crowd were specifically identified as Angels. He kept mute. I asked him, does that mean the Angels are humans now who were on the earth and went through the Great Tribulation on earth? If all the Angels are on earth, it means they are humans. Which one will be in Heaven? Does that mean there are two separate Great crowds? Does that mean that anywhere you see angels mentioned, it means a Great Crowd? He couldn't say anything. I showed him verses where a Great crowd and angels are mentioned at the same time in the same chapter. I asked him, why are they both mentioned if they are the same? He then ran away with a speed of light.

This proved to me that in order for JWs to defend their doctrines, they need to lie and formulate their own beliefs and fantasies separate from the Bible.

I don't know how Watchtower interprets the verse of the Great Crowd standing in front of the Throne and the lamb as they being on earth. Thank God other translations plainly say In front of the Throne and the Lamb. Another JW was trying to redefine what that means When it is very clear that the Bible is written in simple English. I asked him, If someone is standing in front of you, where is the person? He went into robotic mode and was blabbing rubbish. I kept repeating it again and again, he ran away. But lo and behold, Revelation 19 vs 1 says that the Great crowd are in Heaven right there in their Bible. Isn't it wonderful how simple English can make JWs look stupid? So, no matter how they try to twist the meaning of words, this verse has already trashed their doctrine to nothing. I also noticed that Watchtower never quotes this particular verse and it is obvious why. This is how you know that this Cult is a Fraud.

Courz IBERIBEIST TWISTING & LYING didn't begin today. grin grin

There are great crowd of myriads of heavenly spirits giving worship and glory to the God Almighty, Revelation 19:1 & Psalm 89:5-7, spirits in heaven.

Great crowd of Revelation 7:14 are humans "out of every tribe, nations and languages of the earth."
You empty IBERIBEISTS,carry your GIBBERISH outta this thread.
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 5:43pm On Dec 04, 2022
Ken4Christ:


Apostle Paul said those who are in Christ and alive at the time Christ comes will all be caught up in the air - 1st Thessalonians 4:13-16.
John 17:4-5 ,24 & Romans 8:3,big knock out punch to pastorpreneur GIBBERISH.
Jesus Christ was a spirit before his earthly ministry.
He is ascending back to heaven as a glorified spirit.
Shikena!
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Janosky: 5:47pm On Dec 04, 2022
Courz:


Ask this Igbo smoker Janosky why this Bible verse with the phrase underlined exists in his Bible yet they teach something else in their Kingdom hall as the Antichrists that they are. Instead of answering you, he will go and smoke another joint of Igbo then reply with the words IBERIBEISM and Gibberish all over his comment. You will be doubting that you are chatting with a human. grin grin cheesy
Desperate attempt to divert attention because his IBERIBEISM was illuminated on this forum grin

Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Ken4Christ: 6:29pm On Dec 04, 2022
Janosky:

John 17:4-5 ,24 & Romans 8:3,big knock out punch to pastorpreneur GIBBERISH.
Jesus Christ was a spirit before his earthly ministry.
He is ascending back to heaven as a glorified spirit.
Shikena!

Son of perdition. Enjoy your ride to hell. You will remember all these chats. And you will curse the day your mother gave birth to you.

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by pinkylovely: 6:30pm On Dec 04, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


You don't know anything about Christianity so how can you know who are real Christians?

Moreover you're totally wrong about JWs because we believe all those things except Christmas and blood transfusion! smiley

Stop lying to yourself. JWs don't believe in miracles. And before you start talking about miracle of life, I'm very sure you are aware of what OP is talking about when he says 'miracle'. And the belief of holy spirit is as God's active force.
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by pinkylovely: 6:32pm On Dec 04, 2022
They have no birthdays, don't believe in miracles, holy spirit, dresses like a cult, don't celebrate Christmas and refuse blood transfusion.
Are Jehovah witnesses christians? Or they're another religion?

The truth is, most JWs are confused. They have no idea if they are christians or not. Lol. They claim to be 'true christians' but don't classify themselves as belonging to Christendom which is the Christian religion.

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 7:21pm On Dec 04, 2022
Janosky:


Courz IBERIBEIST TWISTING & LYING didn't begin today. grin grin

There are great crowd of myriads of heavenly spirits giving worship and glory to the God Almighty, Revelation 19:1 & Psalm 89:5-7, spirits in heaven.

Great crowd of Revelation 7:14 are humans "out of every tribe, nations and languages of the earth."
You empty IBERIBEISTS,carry your GIBBERISH outta this thread.

I knew it that you will stoop this low to redefine what the Great crowd in Rev 19 vs 1 are. You JWs are very predictable and you always show how deceitful you are just like your father Satan in twisting words as if we don't know who the Great crowd really are. This is why people barely listen to your demonic doctrines.

Show me directly from the Bible in that same verse that Rev 19 vs 1 refers to heavenly Spirits. What are those heavenly spirits? Who are they? Show me directly from the Bible that there are two great crowds because That is what you are saying now. So, show me verses. All those verses you plastered all over are useless.

Then tell me, are you saying that one of the 24 Elders lied to John about the True Identity of the Great Crowd? The Great Crowd are described as those who came out of the Great Tribulation from all nations in the world. Are these heavenly spirits as you called them now humans who survived the Great Tribulation?

Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 7:22pm On Dec 04, 2022
Janosky:

Desperate attempt to divert attention because his IBERIBEISM was illuminated on this forum grin

Ask this Igbo smoker Janosky why this Bible verse with the phrase underlined exists in his Bible yet they teach something else in their Kingdom hall as the Antichrists that they are. Instead of answering you, he will go and smoke another joint of Igbo then reply with the words IBERIBEISM and Gibberish all over his comment. You will be doubting that you are chatting with a human.

Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 7:25pm On Dec 04, 2022
Janosky:


LYING IBERIBEISTS,@ 1 Peter 3:18 was Jesus given a vision of heaven?grin grin grin

This DUBIOUS IBERIBEISTS, where is Greek 2227 "Made Alive" in your quote of Revelation 4:4?

Did your own Revelation 4:4 said "John was put to death in the flesh" Greek 2289?

This Silly Oga,@ Revelation 4:4,why would John be a spirit in heaven when he was not put to death in the flesh?



Revelation 4:4, John was given a vision of heaven as if he was there, the same manner as if "you are there " in the crowd viewing live EPL match.
These empty dimwits exposing their IBERIBEISM .gringrin



Janosky with your Maggot infested brain, try to stop smoking that igbo that makes you type rubbish without reading the comment you are quoting. You are mentally diseased! Look at the Bible verses below. It is actually John in the book of Revelations that was in the Spirit. I am sure your eyes will see double and you will become more confused seeing these verses since you JWs hardly read them. You only read verses that Watchtower dictates to you. Satan's Witnesses.

Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Courz: 7:38pm On Dec 04, 2022
pinkylovely:


The truth is, most JWs are confused. They have no idea if they are christians or not. Lol. They claim to be 'true christians' but don't classify themselves as belonging to Christendom which is the Christian religion.

Very confused people. They are presently being taught confusing doctrines that contradict themselves as we speak. Today being Sunday, I just looked at the Watchtower magazine they studied today and laughed because one single Bible verse as shown in the below pic will totally destroy everything they learnt in the Kingdom hall today. Everything they learnt today were imaginations upon imaginations that cannot be found in the Bible. They don't like reading certain Bible verses.

They love to redefine English words that we already know the meaning just so that they can make sense of their demonic doctrines. They say they are Not part of Christendom but Christendom is the whole of Christianity. Watchtower as Freemasons have deceived all of them to denounce Christianity and speak with pride that they are Non Christians without even knowing what they are doing. That kind of Brainwashing is Demonic. Demons even agree with their doctrines, that's how bad and dangerous their doctrines are. They use Occultic means to get their doctrines and their leaders like to pick doctrines from Occultic books to teach JWs. It is a good thing they get rejected when they go out to preach because Jesus and Almighty God exposed them in the Bible. Followers of Christ need to stay away from them because Satan owns that Cult.

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:21pm On Dec 04, 2022
pinkylovely:


Stop lying to yourself. JWs don't believe in miracles. And before you start talking about miracle of life, I'm very sure you are aware of what OP is talking about when he says 'miracle'. And the belief of holy spirit is as God's active force.

Well if you don't know something there's no crime in asking!

I'm a JW and i believe in miracles and Holy Spirit perhaps it's your understanding that differs from mine but if someone ask me i will explain what God's Holy Spirit does as Bible teaches and as for miracles i believe.

So instead of speaking for others speak for your own god! smiley

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 12:51am On Dec 05, 2022
You maybe a little confused about the Word of God-but you are different from your comrades in crime..
MaxInDHouse:


Well if you don't know something there's no crime in asking!

I'm a JW and i believe in miracles and Holy Spirit perhaps it's your understanding that differs from mine but if someone ask me i will explain what God's Holy Spirit does as Bible teaches and as for miracles i believe.

So instead of speaking for others speak for your own god! smiley
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by pinkylovely: 1:20am On Dec 05, 2022
MaxInDHouse:


Well if you don't know something there's no crime in asking!

I'm a JW and i believe in miracles and Holy Spirit perhaps it's your understanding that differs from mine but if someone ask me i will explain what God's Holy Spirit does as Bible teaches and as for miracles i believe.

So instead of speaking for others speak for your own god! smiley

Who said you weren't a JW? Probably an elder/pioneer who's still glued. Again, stop lying that you believe in miracles when you know quite well that if you were to be told that a Christian religious leader miraculously healed someone from a sickness, you will never believe that to be true. Yeah? Explain God's Holy spirit as an active force, right? grin grin
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by pinkylovely: 1:25am On Dec 05, 2022
Courz:


Very confused people. They are presently being taught confusing doctrines that contradict themselves as we speak. Today being Sunday, I just looked at the Watchtower magazine they studied today and laughed because one single Bible verse as shown in the below pic will totally destroy everything they learnt in the Kingdom hall today. Everything they learnt today were imaginations upon imaginations that cannot be found in the Bible. They don't like reading certain Bible verses.

They love to redefine English words that we already know the meaning just so that they can make sense of their demonic doctrines. They say they are Not part of Christendom but Christendom is the whole of Christianity. Watchtower as Freemasons have deceived all of them to denounce Christianity and speak with pride that they are Non Christians without even knowing what they are doing. That kind of Brainwashing is Demonic. Demons even agree with their doctrines, that's how bad and dangerous their doctrines are. They use Occultic means to get their doctrines and their leaders like to pick doctrines from Occultic books to teach JWs. It is a good thing they get rejected when they go out to preach because Jesus and Almighty God exposed them in the Bible. Followers of Christ need to stay away from them because Satan owns that Cult.

Exactly! Exactly! Again, they'll tell you they are a religion yet still claim to be christians. But true christians. I don't know when the distinction between true and false christians came up as separate religions on their own. grin

May God help us in this life. As regards the watchtower, I avoid paying attention to all the lies because it annoys me. Big time.

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 2:59am On Dec 05, 2022
We need to pray for them, that's what the Lord directs us to do..And try not to look at the person, look at the demonic activity that's leading these people to hell.
pinkylovely:


Exactly! Exactly! Again, they'll tell you they are a religion yet still claim to be christians. But true christians. I don't know when the distinction between true and false christians came up as separate religions on their own. grin

May God help us in this life. As regards the watchtower, I avoid paying attention to all the lies because it annoys me. Big time.

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by OgaNightmare(m): 6:39am On Dec 05, 2022
Courz:


Very confused people. They are presently being taught confusing doctrines that contradict themselves as we speak. Today being Sunday, I just looked at the Watchtower magazine they studied today and laughed because one single Bible verse as shown in the below pic will totally destroy everything they learnt in the Kingdom hall today. Everything they learnt today were imaginations upon imaginations that cannot be found in the Bible. They don't like reading certain Bible verses.

They love to redefine English words that we already know the meaning just so that they can make sense of their demonic doctrines. They say they are Not part of Christendom but Christendom is the whole of Christianity. Watchtower as Freemasons have deceived all of them to denounce Christianity and speak with pride that they are Non Christians without even knowing what they are doing. That kind of Brainwashing is Demonic. Demons even agree with their doctrines, that's how bad and dangerous their doctrines are. They use Occultic means to get their doctrines and their leaders like to pick doctrines from Occultic books to teach JWs. It is a good thing they get rejected when they go out to preach because Jesus and Almighty God exposed them in the Bible. Followers of Christ need to stay away from them because Satan owns that Cult.
Spot on, I was preparing a rebuttal for that particular study article.
It shows how the GB go "beyond the things that are written it was filled with assumptions and speculations and outright manipulation of scripture.
The funniest thing is when the showed a JW teaching the recsurected ones their faulty interpretation of Daniel's prophecy. (Wow! Just wow!)
Forgetting that Paul said that what we have now is partial knowledge "but when the perfect comes, the partial will pass away" but JW's claim to know all grin grin grin

In conclusion I still echo the sentiment's of Paul whenever I see them pushing ahead against the true gospel of Christ, trying to know the future when the have no absolute revelation fro the great God himself:
But just as it is written: “Eye has not seen and ear has not heard, nor have there been conceived in the heart of man the things that God has prepared for those who love him"
(1Cor 2:9 NWT)

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by OgaNightmare(m): 6:47am On Dec 05, 2022
pinkylovely:


Stop lying to yourself. JWs don't believe in miracles. And before you start talking about miracle of life, I'm very sure you are aware of what OP is talking about when he says 'miracle'. And the belief of holy spirit is as God's active force.

I've always wondered how an ACTIVE FORCE could feel grieved, an active force speak.
This same active force can be blasphemed.
This active force intercedes for us and searches all things. Wow! grin grin grin grin

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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Aemmyjah(m): 7:13am On Dec 05, 2022
OgaNightmare:


I've always wondered how an ACTIVE FORCE could feel grieved, an active force speak.
This same active force can be blasphemed.
This active force intercedes for us and searches all things. Wow! grin grin grin grin

These are personifications
Were you taught in school?

Wisdom is also personified in the Bible as having children, crying out in the marketsquare
Death is personified as ruling as king over kings
Sin is personified as enveloping people as a shroud and also ruling as king
Righteousness is also personified
Grave is personified as swallowing people without expanding or being satisfied

The first time the holy spirit is mentioned is the bible is Genesis 1:2. Does that sound to you as a person?
The father has a name, Jehovah and we know his personality and dealings with people
Jesus has a name and we know his personality and dealings with people and what he said. He even ascended to his father's right hand
If the holy spirit were person, wouldn't it be revealed to us as well?
Remember that Jesus himself said that the Father can give his holy spirit as gift to his children after he illustrated about a father who will not give his son stone for bread or snake for a � fish. He then mentioned the holy spirit as a gift
Remember he said after his ascension, he will ASK his father to send the holy spirit
The holy spirit was personified as a comforter, helper and rememberer
In pentecost 33ce, the holy spirit came and descended upon the disciples. They became FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT.
If the holy spirit were a person, can humans be filled with a person?

That miracle was actually the fulfillment of a prophecy that God will POUR OUT HIS SPIRIT ON FLESH. Did God pour out himself?

Someone else in the Bible begged for the holy spirit, he wanted to buy it from the apostles. Did he wanted to buy God?
The holy spirit or God's spirit is the most powerful active force in the universe that God uses to accomplish his purpose and powerful works by humans. It is holy because it comes from God who is holy and pure

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