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Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:35am On Dec 07, 2022 |
brocab:I know one man who will rather watch his friends and families be killed by unbelievers than killing the unbelievers! His name is Jesus of Nazareth! "You heard that it was said: ‘You must love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" Matthew 5:43-48 You have judged yourself brocab! First of all your own disposition is highlighted in blue which negates that of Jesus Christ as highlighted in red. And now you're plotting to have me killed not because i killed anyone but due to my obedience to the command of Jesus (God's Son) Please what exactly is the difference between you and Boko Haram? |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by OgaNightmare(m): 7:38am On Dec 07, 2022 |
oteneaaron:He will still pretend as if he hasn't seen the video Apostles of denial 3 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 8:30am On Dec 07, 2022 |
You haven't told me-how many Christians fighting against Russia and Ukraine, you never mentioned how many Jehovah witnesses are standing by watching their families being slaughtered. I suppose Jehovah witnesses are known to be butchers-refusing to give blood, war in Russia and Ukraine is just a small piece of the puzzle. You have been butchering your own for years.. You know of Just one man-but you aren't that God Man, neither am I. God the father fought many war's-He sent Israel out to fight battles to gain the promise land-the Old Testament is full of war's won by the Israelite's. You believe Jesus never fought a war-Jesus fought war's against principalities and demonic forces, and His coming back to win another.. But I know for a fact-the Lord is already letting His people know. Signs of the Lord’s Return in the Last Days: Prophecies of the Disasters in the Last Days {Matthew 24, Mark 13, Luke 21, Revelation 15, Revelation 16} These are the warning's WW3 IS taking place" MaxInDHouse:Max I am trying to believe you have somewhat sense about you, You are already spirituality dead, we Christian's know that, DON'T LET THAT UPSET YOU? after reading you commit, it's very childish.. "Jehovah Witnesses have got a world's record, known to be twisters in word and lair's.. MaxInDHouse: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:12am On Dec 07, 2022 |
Jesus commanded his disciples and we are obeying the Prince of Peace. According to Jesus he himself said what people thought about his father before giving his verdict on killings. His father supported His worshipers against those who aren't worshiping Him. So if Russia and Ukraine are at war today and only Jehovah's Witnesses say no to war it's true that all other religions are involved in the killing meaning you're in support of brethren killing themselves. That's not the type of war God supported! brocab: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:46am On Dec 07, 2022 |
If you look around you, I am sure many countries are against this war, no one's prepared for war. "and when did Jehovah witnesses say no to war? "As religious as it is, Pope Francis asked to stop the war, so when did the Jehovah witnesses ask for the war to stop, this must be part of the secret society Jehovah witnesses are part off... And you have a cheek to blame a war on everybody else, who's not involved., You need to study up, God’s command to Israel to wipe out of the Canaanites, Perizzites, Jebusites and others. ( Joshua 6:21) And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, ox and sheep and donkey, with the edge of the sword.. Obviously you are not studying your bible Max-we may ask-"how could a good God command someone to “utterly destroy” every person? God commanded the Israelite's to war, yes because the other tribes weren't obeying the commandments of God. And they never repented from their sexual immoral act's they had with each other. Nor the witchcraft they were involved, sacrificing their children casting them into the fire. worshiping other god's. Sound's a little like the Watchtower-sacrificing their love one's, refusing to give blood as our only resource to survival.. We don't know what this war will bring against Russia and Ukraine, if it was a war of un-repentance. then it wouldn't have lasted this Long...You need to read scripture to get the fact's Max.. MaxInDHouse: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:02am On Dec 07, 2022 |
Hilarious! The POPE doesn't need to ask for the war to stop all he should do is order all Catholics who do hail him as "Viva Papa" to drop weapons. That's what the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses did and all JWs globally dropped their weapons! Ọmọ stop deceiving yourself! brocab: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by mecuries(m): 11:36am On Dec 07, 2022 |
did Jesus and the disciples celebrate their birthdays? was Jesus even born in December? (quote anywhere it was written), you don't need to be their member to see their valid points |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:47am On Dec 07, 2022 |
mecuries: They will come after you! You're not dancing to their hypocritical tune! |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 12:15pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
What is Hilarious, I haven't heard you say-you would pray for the victim's, who are suffering in a war they never asked for. Instead you have cursed every other Christian outside your organisation, blaming the war between Russia and Ukraine, on the million's of innocent people who have lost everything. You are not human, deafeningly Antichrist. Countries all over the globe have asked Russia to stop the war. religious leaders etc.. the one I didn't hear was Jehovah witnesses standing up, your claims are once again false... MaxInDHouse: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by sonmvayina(m): 12:22pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
Who is a real Christian? |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:25pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
"A stitch in time" they say "saves nine" Where are all these people when JWs are going from house to house with a message of hope for the future so that LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL could reign? Galatians 5:22-23 Well our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus has foretold that this is what will be the result of your rejection of our peace message {Revelations 6:3-4} so we must not pray for you since you reject the counsel from God's Son! Proverbs 28:9 Jesus never prayed for Jerusalem (his home country) {John 17:8-9} WHY? Because they rejected the messengers of Godly peace sent to help them! brocab: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 1:07pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
I haven't once heard you show any kindness toward's me, no self control-no gentleness, deafeningly no patient's, I can't see any goodness-so what sort of treatment would one expect from any JW going from House to House. MaxInDHouse:The scriptures you have chosen, to back up your argument-have nothing to do with our conversation. You used {Proverbs 28:9} He that turn away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination. This means, if I was to turn away from God's law, "my prayers would not be heard. It's got nothing to do with someone praying for me. Don't you read: Jesus said: {Luke 6:28} bless those who curse you, and pray for those who spitefully use you. Here is another verse if I refuse to obey God's commandments..{Psalms 66;18 } If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me: Wake up Max: twisting scriptures isn't worth the effort. MaxInDHouse:Three prayers on the cross: "Father forgive them; for they know not what they do" (Luke 23:34) "My God, My God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt 27:46, Mark 15:34) "Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit" (Luke 23:46) You are again mistaken, Max..Jesus prayed always, until His death. {Matthew 14:23, Mark 6:46. Luke 6;12, Luke 5 :16, Mark 1:35} MaxInDHouse: 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:35pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
brocab: I don't know you so how do you expect me to treat you on faceless forum where we only chat about our faith? brocab: Jesus refused to pray for people who rejected his message {John 17:8-9} because God won't accept such prayers {Proverbs 28:9; Jeremiah 11:14} that's why we can't pray for you. But if it's someone mistreating us due to the orders from a wicked ruler we must pray for such ones because they don't know what they're doing! Luke 23:34 compare to Act 7:60 As for you who wished me dead because i am quoting God's word yet you feel like seeing God come to rescue me when you scheme evil against me: brocab: Mark 15:36 your own judgement is in God's hands! |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 2:13pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
I myself have had more patients with you, then you have given me-I don't have to meet you personally-the Lord said: by their fruit we will know them. "You can't keep a good conversation down Max: you are twisting word in one direction to another direction, in the mean time, working yourself up, writing stupidity on line. trying to start an argument. I find this treatment from Jehovah witnesses from all walks of life. Is it something you all enjoy studying.. Now let's look at {John 17:8-9} For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. After praying for His disciples, Jesus also prays for everyone who will believe in Him through their message ({John 17:21} I don't read Jehovah witnesses only" I READ EVERYBODY THAT CHOOSES TO BELIEVE, I don't read they belong to an organisation. Jesus’ desire, expressed in His High Priestly Prayer, is that all of His followers would be in complete unity, just as He and the Father are in perfect unity {John 17:21} Jesus prays for believers to be in God so that the WORLD will believe in Jesus! { John 17} contains the longest recorded prayer of Jesus in any of the Gospels. Jesus prays this after He finishes His final instructions to the disciples and before He is betrayed, arrested, and crucified. First, Jesus prays for Himself, then He prays for His disciples, and He closes the prayer by praying for all believers. The scripture's are telling me, it doesn't matter if we are involved in any organisation or not involved. as long as we believe, obey Covenant, laws and Commandment's, we are all saved. This SAME Jesus: the Jw's rejects: humbled Himself and came to earth as a man so people would know “the only true God, and Jesus Christ” whom He sent.. (John 17:3). Now, the hour had come when Jesus’ work on earth would be finished.. {John 17:1-2} and Jesus asks the Father to glorify Him as He prepared to finish the work that would “give eternal life” to those who believe in Him.. MaxInDHouse: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:56pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
It's not compulsory you and i believe the same thing so if you're sure of your God there's no reason wishing me evil simply because i choose another God. Please go and preach your God to whoever will accept it from the abundance of your heart you have spoken {Luke 6:45} and i don't like chatting with killers. Farewell! brocab: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 9:44pm On Dec 07, 2022 |
So does this mean, you have run out of things to say Max: you have finely realized your understanding views of the bible-aren't what you have been taught. Run away if it suit's you!!! MaxInDHouse: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 3:01am On Dec 08, 2022 |
This is what happen's when Churches begin to separate the Word of God. If we all just focused on the scripture's, Just as it's written. We wouldn't have the need 'to add nor remove scriptures from the Word of God. The Bible is a life time book, many of us have been studying it for many year's, and still we are learning the scripture's.. We have so many interpretations out there, people trying to interpret scripture without believing and receiving the Spirit of God to teach them. There's been so many men and women that claim they are God's chosen, and if you aren't part of a certain organisation "Church" you are not saved, and your chances going to be with the Lord is nil. these are the men and women who are leading God's people to hell fire 'these are those that rewrite and interpreted the scriptures wrongfully. Myself I don't care what organisation you are from, I don't care if you are part of a cult, all I care about, if you are speaking God to me, then at least bring His truth to me.. Yes, I am talking to you JW'S.. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by oteneaaron(m): 3:46am On Dec 08, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't chat with killers. HYPOCRITE! Yet it is still the same you MaxInDHouse who threatened to deal with Courz. You threatened to send your fellow armed colleagues after Courz. Or have you forgetten so quickly how you threatened his life on this Nairaland? I dare you to deny it. There is proof. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:05am On Dec 08, 2022 |
Bring it here! oteneaaron: |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 7:41am On Dec 08, 2022 |
Come on Max, you won't give blood to help save a life, but you would draw blood from a Christian believer. So someone obviously knows you. I would like to see the proof, Max: actually threatening to murder another, on line-are you sure you aren't Russian standing on the front lines fighting against Ukraine. This has got to be Max's last word's MaxInDHouse:but it seem's you would draw blood from another Christian using force against them. I can picture you now, going from house to house, Old Max bashing everybody.. MaxInDHouse: 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by brocab: 7:43am On Dec 08, 2022 |
That's funny-Old Max threatening to bash a fellow believer, I like your work bro.. oteneaaron: 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:33pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
Oteneaaron i'm waiting for your evidence that i threatened a commentator o! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by oteneaaron(m): 3:24pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Are you denying it? I dare you to deny that you threatened Courz on this platform. I want you to deny it. 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by oteneaaron(m): 3:32pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
It all went down on this thread - https://www.nairaland.com/7170194/slave-shackles-1852-freemason-symbol During a heated debate where MaxInDHouse claimed to be a CIA agent, he threatened Courz by telling him to "watch his back" . See proof below. MaxInDHouse: I guess this is the fruit of the spirit MaxInDHouse, Janosky and Aemmyjah always talk about. 3 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:55pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
oteneaaron: So that was a threat from your own perspective shey? Ọmọ provide a valid evidence where i threaten someone, in the post i told you that whatever you're posting against anyone try to get your facts right because if it should get into the hands of the CIA they will trace it and fish out the so called agent that gave you and your ex-jws false information, and if afterwards all these proved to be false "i beg Sir" won't save you. So telling you not to involve the CIA in your malicious blackmail is a threat shey? This really shows that you were lying back then if that post sound like a threat to you! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by oteneaaron(m): 4:30pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol. Stories upon stories. Why don't you enlighten me on what a threat is? 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by oteneaaron(m): 4:30pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol. Stories upon stories. Why don't you enlighten me on what a threat is? 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:47pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
oteneaaron: That's an advice but since you call it a threat then it's OK, just know that people easily gets into trouble while using the name of CIA to post false information. That's an indisputable fact! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by oteneaaron(m): 4:58pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol. Oh so you're no longer a former CIA operative aka Intelligence Officer? I thought you said you Courz should "watch his back"? What about your "former" colleagues who you said you would call to "take this up"? MaxInDHouse: 2 Likes |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:08pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
oteneaaron: So if someone told you something that sound unbelievable putting a call through to verify is a threat to the one who told you, shey? Guy you need to know the difference between a threat and an advice. I felt like putting a call through for verification but then i thought "perhaps if this should go further than just chatting with people on Nairaland how do i tell my former colleagues that it's just a joke?" That's why i told you "watch your back" because i know that it's just cheap blackmail but what if it's some inexperienced officers? The call would have led to something else and there's no way i can withdraw the case after it has been established. So it's an advice guy not a threat! 1 Like |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by Sand2022: 6:04pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
They have no birthdays, don't believe in miracles, holy spirit, dresses like a cult, don't celebrate Christmas and refuse blood transfusion. They believe in holy spirit. But they say it is not a person. Their argument make sense on that. Don't celebrate Christmas. Well, there is a good argument on that, but I won't be judgmental on that point. Birthdays. I don't accept their point on this. It is a weak argument. Blood transfusion ban. Pure nonsense argument used in support of such a serious life decision. They should go back to the bible and restudy that subject. They can do better than what they are teaching now. Dress like cult. How? They are most decently dressed christians I've ever seen. Apart from bad eggs among them who are almost naked, as a group they are relatively well dressed. You can't compare them with any other church on that. Mormons are second. Of course God's kingdom is not about dress. They are Christians. As a group are they true Christians? Let God be the judge on that day. But as individuals, they try to be morally upright and as such, some can be saved there. Don't make the mistake of judging individuals based on church. Inasmuch as they have faith in Christ and accept his basic principles, don't judge. The JW are good in judging people based on doctrines. That's how they understand their bible. But it is very wrong to judge people based on doctrine. unless you have a supernatural revelation of that doctrine, don't think that your understanding of a scripture is perfect. You may be wrong even when it sounds so logical. Some understanding are obviously left for human intellect to decode, but not all. Judging people based on their own bible understanding, hmmm. I will say it is best to be open minded, but leave that judgment for God. Jws are christians with their own distinct Understanding of scripture. Contrary to what they believe, God can still accept other people with a different bible understanding. No one group has monopoly over truth. |
Re: Are Jehovah Witness People Real Christians? by oteneaaron(m): 6:39pm On Dec 08, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol. Kindly define what an "Advice" means and what a "Threat" means. You are just beating around the bush. Admit you made a mistake and apologize to Courz - it is that easy. But no, you keep speaking from both sides of your mouth and that is why I call you a HYPOCRITE. You threatened Courz and it is clear for even the blind to see. Is this the fruit of the spirit you always speak about? 2 Likes |
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