TonySpike:


The real problem with DC movies is that whenever a new management takes over, they want to rubberstamp their own selfish 'creative' ideas. This is why these movies have been stagnant since 2016 or so.

SMUAG:


I'm foreseeing a boring and fatigued cbm coming very soon since there won't be much difference between the major two heavy houses. The only formula James Gunn can inject into DC is properly what the MCU has thought him.
I would've preferred James Wan as the new head over Gunn if Zaslav can't get those Brothers...

abduleez1:
Sharon's opinions which I kinda roll with.


A total reboot would have been better at this point but box office and general audience perception
will take a hit especially for the first 5 films. But a promise of a reward lies in the future.
Anyways, it's obvious some stories have to make way for others. How it's decided is the big question.

abduleez1:


Gbam.... You've just said the truth!!

Everyone wants to leave their Legacy print on DC before they leave.

TonySpike:


No success is guaranteed even after five films. Do you know why Marvel is still loved? Many teenagers grew up watching Marvel movies in their childhood and some are already adults as we speak. The Marvel momentum was not altered in anyway and it catered for these transitioning demographics. The real issue with DC is the confusion about canceling and rebooting and all that, it makes people lose interest in their projects. No consistency or continuity whatsover. The easiest scapegoat is always to blame Snyder but WB is the biggest issue, for not believing in their projects and being shaky about Box Office cash.

johnyace:

More cons for a reboot.
•The fanbase will still be very much divided.

•The new storyline will take years to payoff

•There no guarantee that it will be a success.
•What happens when WBD is under new management in a few years and doesn't like the direction which DC is going?

Xavier5:
The Gunn/ Safran criticism in this group is just outright stupidity. How can you criticize a plan you're not aware of? Is any of the critic away of the proposed plan? No, so what's the criticism about?

You never see architectural plan, you don dey criticize the building, architect and engineers. How? How e make sense?
You never see business plan, you don dey criticize the business and business owner. Is that not stupidity?

Common sense demands you wait for Gunn and Safran to implement their plans first to see if it's good and successful or not before you start throwing criticism. But no, reason has to be thrown out of the window in favor of irrationality.

No vex, but I have to say it. It is annoying as fvck. DC fans always behaving like children

To the Snyder fans, the Snyder plan is not the only franchise plan. The Snyder plan is not the best franchise plan. There are others. So let Gunn/ Safran implement their plans first in order to see if it's good and successful or not before you start making noises

#Xavier
#DCian

johnyace:
You keep talking about the ten year plan when that isn't even guaranteed because WBD is likely to be under new management in a few years, if the the first few movies fail to resonate with the larger audience and the new management decides to fire Gunn and Safran, what happens then
We would probably start seeing Gunn Cultists and restore the GunnVerse hashtags.
Note: I am not critiquing Gunn's plan because I don't even know what that is, I am only critiquing a hard reboot of the DCEU

abduleez1:
At this point it's very good Patty left if this is true. To wipe the woman cord for neck dey hungry me.
Which kind yeye script be this, what's her annoying obsession with Steve Trevor. At this point it's her who can't let go of Steve not Diana.

The fvvk would Steve still be doing at this point of the story. If she's wanting a war with the Amazons it's very easy with the Bana Mighdall storyline where they was an Amazonian civil war. Bring in Artemis facing off Nubia. And then add in the Amazon forest Amazons in the mix and you have exactly this exact story.
If she taps the story of ZSJL where Steppenwolf decimates the Amazons while stealing the motherbox — the other Amazon tribes feel Paradise Island Amazons has failed to protect their world and demand for a new Queen after Hippolyta's death. Story don set be that.
With the reception of the previous movie she's still stubbornly towing the same line. This woman never learns. With the character arc she's parroting that ppl don't understand, she seems to be the ignorant one cos her shït contradicts what happened in WW84 were Diana gave up on Steve after realising what her wanting him did to the world and understood that sacrifice are sometimes made for the greater good.
Patty clearly doesn't understand what is character arc or progression.

They should just give this thing to Misha Green to write and prolly direct or use Emerald Fennel. They're both good and talented women in the industry.

But no, her head no wan correct. Give us a proper Greek/Amazon mythology. Where's Circe, Hecate or Athena?

pu7pl3:


Omo Jesus wtf.
I can't believe Geoff Johns had a hand in this stupid story with his clear eyes, it's either jazz or pussy cos wtf.
Did this woman even care to read and know about wonder woman even?
Thank God for James Gunn and all the same heads that turned it down.

abduleez1:


Like WTF!! I know say Geoff Johns no get sense normal, but with the kind stories wey the guy don write over the years, I still dey doubt how him go Siddon write this nonsense with Patty. E gats be pussy, cos the way she dey always involve am for projects I no understand.

It's like she's barely read a Wonder Woman comic before. And this thing dey vex me, cos na Wonder Woman comics I dey easily quick read (even if I no complete am) before I touch Supes or Batsy sef.

pu7pl3:


Omo Jesus wtf.
I can't believe Geoff Johns had a hand in this stupid story with his clear eyes, it's either jazz or pussy cos wtf.
Did this woman even care to read and know about wonder woman even?
Thank God for James Gunn and all the sane heads that turned it down.

Minemrys:

The bringing Steve Trevor back doesn't make sense, isn't his body supposed to be decayed or whatever? I mean it's roughly a century plus lol. And why would Ra'as want to raid Themscyra? They certainly don't get the characters but then again, how did they get wind of Jerkin's story?
At this rate they should just do a JL2 movie where they kill off all the characters and start afresh.
The more the residual of the old cast remains, there will be a stumbling block. Give the DCEU an ending then reboot. Totally cause it's obvious there's no plan and people need to move on.

abduleez1:


Like WTF!! I know say Geoff Johns no get sense normal, but with the kind stories wey the guy don write over the years, I still dey doubt how him go Siddon write this nonsense with Patty. E gats be pussy, cos the way she dey always involve am for projects I no understand.

It's like she's barely read a Wonder Woman comic before. And this thing dey vex me, cos na Wonder Woman comics I dey easily quick read (even if I no complete am) before I touch Supes or Batsy sef.

pu7pl3:


There is a 10year plan and all would be revealed.

Minemrys:

It's getting too long. I hate the suspense. It better be worth it. Cause I don't trust WB any more with the waiting game.

Minemrys:

Are you sure he wrote those stories you think he wrote? May have been someone else's that he was credited for. Happens a lot. Cause someone who has written great stories doesn't automatically start writing crap on a consistent level. There may be hit and miss but of course the stories would at least make sense. Like the Nolans for example.

Minemrys:

It's getting too long. I hate the suspense. It better be worth it. Cause I don't trust WB any more with the waiting game.

abduleez1:


They're his stories quite alright. With the hate the man has earn in the last few years it would have come to light by now.
Unless proven otherwise, he's the writer of those stories.

Minemrys:

Unless proven otherwise. Or perhaps what he writes doesn't translate to audio visual perfection or brilliance.

abduleez1:
At this point it's very good Patty left if this is true. To wipe the woman cord for neck dey hungry me.
Which kind yeye script be this, what's her annoying obsession with Steve Trevor. At this point it's her who can't let go of Steve not Diana.

The fvvk would Steve still be doing at this point of the story. If she's wanting a war with the Amazons it's very easy with the Bana Mighdall storyline where they was an Amazonian civil war. Bring in Artemis facing off Nubia. And then add in the Amazon forest Amazons in the mix and you have exactly this exact story.
If she taps the story of ZSJL where Steppenwolf decimates the Amazons while stealing the motherbox — the other Amazon tribes feel Paradise Island Amazons has failed to protect their world and demand for a new Queen after Hippolyta's death. Story don set be that.
With the reception of the previous movie she's still stubbornly towing the same line. This woman never learns. With the character arc she's parroting that ppl don't understand, she seems to be the ignorant one cos her shït contradicts what happened in WW84 were Diana gave up on Steve after realising what her wanting him did to the world and understood that sacrifice are sometimes made for the greater good.
Patty clearly doesn't understand what is character arc or progression.

They should just give this thing to Misha Green to write and prolly direct or use Emerald Fennel. They're both good and talented women in the industry.

But no, her head no wan correct. Give us a proper Greek/Amazon mythology. Where's Circe, Hecate or Athena?

TonySpike:


There are a lot of things that look cool in the comic books but requires indepth thinking and creativity to achieve on the screen. This is the simple truth and exactly what Geoff Johns lacks.
..

Minemrys:

Unless proven otherwise. Or perhaps what he writes doesn't translate to audio visual perfection or brilliance.

IngeniousLeez:


Comic books writing and other literary works don't necessarily translate to like for like success in screenplay.
Screenwriting is way different.

He still has something decent with Stargirl.