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Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 6:45pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Wealthinwealth1:1. I am afraid this is a lie! Being in Christ isn't the same as being born-again. This since all those who gain access into the Kingdom of God through the Broad gate which leads to destruction at the end are also born-again- John 3 vs 1 - 8 & Matthew 7 vs 13 - 14 & Luke 13 vs 22 - 30. . Yes, all those who will end up in Hell after Jesus Christ returns are all born-agains, too. 2. You are not Jacob nor are you Israel. By the way, God Himself cursed Israel and scattered them all across the world. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by MikeofAfrica: 6:52pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
phemmyfour: After the resurrection of Jesus Christ and His ancension into Heaven, His disciples relaxed, thinking that the Devil is now under their feet. Hence they fail to activate the victory of Jesus. The Devil took advantage of their ignorance hence James was killed. It was until Peter was arrested that the disciples began to fast and pray. Through fasting and praying, they activated the victory given to them by Jesus Christ, hence Jesus sent an Angel to deliver Peter. Jesus broke all ancestral curses through his death and resurrection. However to enjoy these benefits, you have to activate it by breaking those Curses in the name of Jesus Christ . It when you begin to break those curses in the name of Jesus, that the victory of Jesus over curses will begin to manifest in your life. You cannot enjoy any Spiritual benefit which you did not activate through fasting and prayer. That is why Apostle Paul told us to put on the whole armor of God and wrestle the forces of darkness ( Ephesians 6:11 - 12). One of the ways of fighting the forces of darkness is breaking ancestral curses which these forces are implementing in our lives. Stop listening to bread and butter preachings of our Pastors. Begin to take solid Spiritual foods that will make you a Champion in Christ. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by HoneySwag(f): 6:56pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Xyzee: It's easy to say and doubt things when you've not found yourself in situation that's more than what you can handle. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kingxchange44: 6:58pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
HedwigesMaduro: And if you reason well you will understand that I never said witchcraft never existed in europe, it's stupidity that is making you bring racism on my comment. It's your type started Black live matters. Rest |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by phemmyfour: 6:58pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica:That's persecution not CURSES. Seems you don't really know the meaning of CURSE 2 Likes |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by vicardino(m): 7:22pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Eriokanmi: What nonsense is this? This whole write up must have come from a place of ignorance. Your Pastor needs to be talked to. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by vicardino(m): 7:26pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica: So according to you, Jesus broke all the curses but in order for a Christian to enjoy the benefits of what Jesus did, he/she has to break the curses again in the name of Jesus? How many times are curses broken? Cos if Jesus broke it according to you, what again do I need to break? Same curses that Jesus already broke? And please stop quoting scriptures out of context 2 Likes |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 7:28pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
vicardino:That is a hilarious digest there!
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Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Ayo081(m): 7:42pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica: Lmao Most of y'all think we're fowls. Do you read your Bible at all? Because a non-christain won't even start like this. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Ogbeniayanfe(m): 7:47pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Yes...except the person go for thorough deliverance session with those real prophet of God..like prophet TB Joshua's church, apostle John chi(one of the disciple of TB Joshua), Wiseman Daniel..etc..not all these pastor's in charismatic and Pentecostal churches that will tell you ,you don't need deliverance..except you are delivered ..you are not free from the bondage of the curses.... |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 7:48pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Ogbeniayanfe:Where does this idea that your deliverance exercises can deliver anyone from any of God's curses? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by E2000: 7:54pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ebubeson:If you are riotous the sins or curses of your fathers before you will not have a grip on you but anytime you commit a sin the sins and curses on your fathers before you are remembered and their effects will take hold of your life. If you continue in sin the grip of the sins and curses on your fathers before you get tighter on you at some point it becomes difficult to escape and it may even lead to death. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by tctrills: 8:00pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
MikeofAfrica: If you want to have a discussion we would talk but if you are the type that come online to belittle those that disagree with you then have a nice day. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by tctrills: 8:02pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
danowena:God bless you. 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by yinkbell: 8:02pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
tctrills: I know the angle you are talking from sir. If anyone is in Christ, all that belongs to Christ also belongs to him. Christ is our head and we are members of His BODY His blood is potent to deal with all sins and curses but how does his blood cleanses us from all sins? It is through faith by prayers. Let me give you an analogy here; If a man fall sick (terminal illness) before he believes in Christ, after receiving Christ, he may still not be healed except First Peter 2: 24 is revealed to him, he can only appropriate this blessings through prayers. (James 5: 14-15). Book of James chapter 5: 14-15 is talking about believer in Christ who fell sick; possibly, this may come as a result of sins or negligence to the law of health. There are some things that rub on us before we are in Christ and also after we have received Christ. All these can be annulled through prayers and word of God. When you are born again, it is your spirit man that is recreated, it doesn't affect your soul or your physical body. That's why Bible says we must always renew our minds with the word of God. A guy just sited an example of a man whose family members never reached the age of forty years. The moment the man gave his life to Christ, the curse does not break automatically, he did something about it. He held on to Galatians 3:13 and enforce his victory in Christ through prayers. Everything Christ did for us are not authomatic, we are to enforce it through faith in prayers and word of God. There are always objective truth and subjective truth to the finished work of Christ. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by tctrills: 8:04pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
edoairways:I knew you would finally go this way. Oga read your scripture. Stop being proud. When you are born again, you are washed by the blood of Christ. It washes away all your curses. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Testimony1988(m): 8:06pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:the Bible. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 8:08pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Testimony1988:where is this advice written please? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Akaimmanuel(m): 8:14pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Surely there is no enchantment against Jacob, neither is there any divination against Israel: Numbers 23 |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 8:20pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Akaimmanuel:Are you Jacob or of Israel in this case? |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by tctrills: 8:22pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
yinkbell:1 Your analogy does not work here and I will tell you why. Sickness is not the same as having a spiritual curse. Drugs can fix a sickness if it is not a spiritual. But no spiritual curse can dwell in anyone that has the spirit of God. And if the sickness is spiritual, as soon as you become born again, it is over. Do you remember the man Jesus Christ heal simply by saying "your sins are forgiven"? Once the Savoir forgives, all curses are done with. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Tinubumyman: 8:32pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ebubeson:go to mfm or get olukoya messages...get holy Micheal perfume from spiritual stores, 12 midnight for three days.... |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 8:32pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Tinubumyman:no be juju recipe that one be? 1 Like |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Tinubumyman: 8:37pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:baba na be juju o....all powers belong to God o....even the 1 wey dey devil hand na God give am.... Na the usage make am juju.... ALL powers belong to God....,baba use O.T |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 8:41pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Tinubumyman:So because all powers belong to God it then becomes acceptable to use even the power wey God give Satan to get what you want, this against what God Himself commanded? Did you miss the part of the teachings of Jesus Christ where Jesus Christ asked,"How can Satan cast out Satan?" - Mark 3:23–27; Matthew 12:25–29; Luke 11:17–22 |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kay25(m): 8:43pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
ebubeson:When you become born again you are redeemed by the blood of Jesus to be the son of God so you are free and at liberty from all oppression of the devil,curses cos Jesus had taken ur place however it is your spiritman that is redeemed you are still in the flesh and this world so he curses might be showing up cos we are yet conform fully to the nature of the spirit but when that happens you need a renewal of mind to to remind yourself that you are no longer cursed you are redeemed already by this you stay afloat the curses .you are an heavenly being not this earthly being that curses can work in their lives.if u just say you are born again and don't engage these curses you might be under them cos the devil still owns this earth till we are fully redeemed. To the ones of u offending someone Bible says in proverb 26 vs 2 that a curse for no reason can't have effect so if u do evil which as a born again you get your paybacks that's why we are called to live a holy life |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Tinubumyman: 8:47pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:u still didn't get it ..... Satan does not have power...... All power belongs to God....I don't know how to explain this again...but I pray the holy Spirit bring u to that level |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Tinubumyman: 8:47pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie:u still didn't get it ..... Satan does not have power...... All power belongs to God....I don't know how to explain this again...but I pray the holy Spirit bring u to that level of spiritual understanding |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by God2man2again(m): 8:55pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Let's not generalize this thing, one may be affected, another may not be affected although they are both born again, the Bible says, comparing yourself to other, you are not wise. If the foundation has been polluted by ancestral issues, there will be problem, if not, nothing will happen to the person. Our destinies are never the same. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Hotice085: 8:57pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Eriokanmi:. Between Europeans Asians and Africans who generation curse suppose affect past? Let me tell your backward mentality is what is affecting you and nothing like generation curses. All the wickedness that the Europeans committed on Africans, it never affected their children it is we the Africans that suffered in their hands that will still come and be suffering generation curses abi? How many people the Germans killed, how many native Americans did the Europeans killed, how native Australians did the British killed? Yet the descendants of killers are progressing more than the descendants of the victims? The Jews that killed Christ and till this day still persecute christians are we better than them? Generation curse will only affect backward and primitive thinking people, the sins and abominations committed by our ancestors is not up to 5% committed by others yet they are 100 times better than yet you and the OP are here talking like people living in the cave Generation curse my ass |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by kwasoly(m): 8:59pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Kobojunkie: If you have a different opinion kindly state it here cos I don't understand what ur writing. |
Re: Can A Born Again Christian Be Affected By Past Curses And Ancestral Bondages? by Kobojunkie: 9:02pm On Dec 11, 2022 |
Tinubumyman:What? Yes, all power does indeed belong to God, and God has given the power to even Satan. Jesus Christ revealed this to His followers in Luke 10 vs 18 - 20 when He, Jesus Christ revealed that He had given to them more power than Satan had. |
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