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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:35pm On Dec 11, 2022
afrodoc2:


Luis Aragones 4th and Pep Guardiola 6th while Butragueno is 9th, Raul 16th and Telmo Zarra 19th.

grin grin grin

This is an incredibly ridiculous list.


Provide your own reputable source that put Xavi ahead of iniesta,it shouldn't be difficult to do since we know ridiculous list when we see one.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:36pm On Dec 11, 2022
CAPdan21:

You mean in this manner?...


Is Xavi missing from there ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 8:36pm On Dec 11, 2022
For many people here that didn’t really watch La Liga games back then and just saw Champions league games, If you want to really know what prime Barca looked like and various roles of each players in that team, go and rewatch that 2011 champions leagaue final. It’s a perfect set up of how that team played week in week out for those years of dominance.

Cause it’s very clear many people here have zero idea of what they’re talking about
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:37pm On Dec 11, 2022
Sportsweb:
Are you not ashamed of your list. Pep Guardiola and co ranked ahead of Xavi. Xavi even de number 21 grin grin grin.

This man just go find list way carry his fraud as number one


Bring your own list.

You know what ? Whatever list i bring will always have iniesta has number one.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:39pm On Dec 11, 2022
Ibime:


Affidavit polling both awards

Never in my life will I see a left winger go into tournament with zero goals and assists and win POTT like Iniesta did in Euro 2012

Media went into shakushaku madness and overdrive, trying to pay Iniesta back for not winning individual accolade after scoring 2010 WC final goal, which again was his only GA contribution to that tournament

When Xavi assisted the solitary winning goals in the Word Cup second round, quarterfinal and semifinal back to back, Iniesta was dancing shakushaku, until Fabregas gave him a clean 1v1 with the keeper in the final

A case of a horse being dragged to the stream everyday until he drinks

Xavi made Iniestas career. Even the one thing Iniesta is known for, that midfield tikitaka control, he was never good at it. It was Xavi work

Xavi assisted twice in Euro 2012 final, they chose a nigga with zero GA as POTT based on Kovacic style dribbles

Xavi assisted the only goal in Euro 2008 final

Studious people know who the real driver was

When Xavi started having Achilles tendonitis in 2013, everything disappeared.


All this could be right if Xavi could drag Seydou Keita into 2010 UCL finals against 10 men inter milan.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:40pm On Dec 11, 2022
airmark:


If I ask you to rate this your ridiculous rebuttal on a scale of -10 to 10, what will you pick?

I will answer you kindly.


10.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:41pm On Dec 11, 2022
izzou:


This is just an example, my good friend

The comparison is between Fraudniesta and Xavi

But the moment you have to bring Frank Lampard into it, just know that player is Hushpuppy-esque

grin


Yes exactly the moment we have to remove Lampard's Euro 2004 goals to make a case for him grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:43pm On Dec 11, 2022
Kilishihunter:

When he goes clutch it's him being dragged to the stream when that pass from fabregas was slightly deflected
When he puts him a world class performance e turn polling booth award
Landmines laced up at every angle,
Modric another low stats midfielder compared to the EPL international failures doesn't get this same energy of slack and interrogation like ini oooh
Shey you also remember busquets-ini-rakitic started the 2015 UCL final before he was later brought in, We know who was the best player that night


He wants to turn iniesta into Frank lampard who stat pad at the group stage level of every competition only to go missing when it mattered most.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:45pm On Dec 11, 2022
Kilishihunter:

When he goes clutch it's him being dragged to the stream when that pass from fabregas was slightly deflected

Did it land to him 1v1 Vs keeper

So what's the brouhaha and how is it different from Mario Gotze?

If you keep taking a player to semis, finals etc with no contribution from him, he is supposed to score in a few

Just by probability, an AM scores once in every 3 games and assists at roughly the same rate, so if you take him to twenty semifinals and finals with little contribution of his own on the way there, you will see some goals and assists in those finals and semis. Even Pedro make his name when taken to finals

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:48pm On Dec 11, 2022
https://www.sportskeeda.com/amp/football/iniesta-xavi-10-greatest-spanish-players-all-time


If you will not provide your own reputable source don't ask me about my link.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by TLona1: 8:49pm On Dec 11, 2022
UPDATE.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 8:49pm On Dec 11, 2022
Ibime:


Affidavit polling both awards

Never in my life will I see a left winger go into tournament with zero goals and assists and win POTT like Iniesta did in Euro 2012

Media went into shakushaku madness and overdrive, trying to pay Iniesta back for not winning individual accolade after scoring 2010 WC final goal, which again was his only GA contribution to that tournament

When Xavi assisted the solitary winning goals in the Word Cup second round, quarterfinal and semifinal back to back, Iniesta was dancing shakushaku, until Fabregas gave him a clean 1v1 with the keeper in the final

A case of a horse being dragged to the stream everyday until he drinks

Xavi made Iniestas career. Even the one thing Iniesta is known for, that midfield tikitaka control, he was never good at it. It was Xavi work

Xavi assisted twice in Euro 2012 final, they chose a nigga with zero GA as POTT based on Kovacic style dribbles

Xavi assisted the only goal in Euro 2008 final

Studious people know who the real driver was

When Xavi started having Achilles tendonitis in 2013, everything disappeared.

I personally think Xavi is really underrated and he was my favorite of the two. Extremely visionary that measured passes as if he was playing with a rule tape. Unfortunately in football, flair is what people see especially in a world where YouTube comps is a driving force of perception. Just put together a clip of a player scoring or doing fancy dribbles, every other player is rubbish. That’s why attackers will always get more recognition than defenders.

That being said, slandering Iniesta to make Xavi good is still silly. Both are perfect in what they did and did their jobs excellently.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by CAPdan21(m): 8:51pm On Dec 11, 2022
popizaino:



I am sure those who rated him above every other midfielders including Xavi were aware of this metrics. grin

Maybe we should start from 2010 when Xavi lost the UCL semifinals without Iniesta.

Rated by who exactly...
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-10-best-spanish-players-ever

https://www.rookieroad.com/soccer/top-6-best-spain-soccer-players-all-time-3816816/

https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/spain/world-cup-top-10/feature/top-10-spanish-players-of-all-time_156035.html

See sport websites having Xavi above iniesta, this is just from one half of a Google page...Imagine how many I'll find if I actually looked hard..

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:51pm On Dec 11, 2022
Ibime:


Nigga is going into Macaulay Chrisantus levels cheesy

Man is no more attracted to oldies, now going for teens like R. Kelly. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:52pm On Dec 11, 2022
popizaino:



He wants to turn iniesta into Frank lampard who stat pad at the group stage level of every competition only to go missing when it mattered most.

Lampard has about 7 GA in UCL semis and a goal in UCL final

If Lampard do his own and does not have others to seal the win like Messi, Xavi, Eto, Suarez and Neymar do while Iniesta is mostly being unproductive, that is not his problem. Learn the difference between someone who carries the burden of his team and another who is carried by his team.

Give a carryalong the mantle to carry his team forward and he will nearly relegate them like Iniesther did to Vissel Kobe in Japanese league

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 8:52pm On Dec 11, 2022
popizaino:


I will answer you kindly.


10.

Naija politicians should pick you up for a job. grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:54pm On Dec 11, 2022
Adiwana:


I personally think Xavi is really underrated and he was my favorite of the two. Extremely visionary that measured passes as if he was playing with a rule tape. Unfortunately in football, flair is what people see especially in a world where YouTube comps is a driving force of perception. Just put together a clip of a player scoring or doing fancy dribbles, every other player is rubbish. That’s why attackers will always get more recognition than defenders.

That being said, slandering Iniesta to make Xavi good is still silly. Both are perfect in what they did and did their jobs excellently.

You have spoken well

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 8:54pm On Dec 11, 2022
popizaino:



He wants to turn iniesta into Frank lampard who stat pad at the group stage level of every competition only to go missing when it mattered most.

Wtf am I reading? Lampard is one of the most efficient midfielders you’ll ever get in football. Saying that Lampard goes missing when it mattered most is so mind boggling

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Adiwana: 8:56pm On Dec 11, 2022
It be like say many of una drink come out this night abi wetin?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Debroslink: 8:56pm On Dec 11, 2022
Ibime:


Xavi made Iniestas career. Even the one thing Iniesta is known for, that midfield tikitaka control, he was never good at it. It was Xavi work

Xavi minus Iniesta
@ Euro 2004, bench warmer
@ WC 2006, passenger
@ UCL & La liga 2005/06 zero contribution
@ 2007 season & 2008 season, trophyless

Iniesta minus Xavi
@ 2002 Euro U20 champion
@ 2005/06 UCL success
@ 2015 TREBLE winner
@ 2016 UEFA team of the year

You'll be posting Xavi's numbers with Iniesta in major tournaments between 2008-2012. I dare you to post his numbers in Euro 2004 or WC 2006 without Iniesta.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 8:56pm On Dec 11, 2022
Ibime:


Did it land to him 1v1 Vs keeper

So what's the brouhaha and how is it different from Mario Gotze?

If you keep taking a player to semis, finals etc with no contribution from him, he is supposed to score in a few

Just by probability, an AM scores once in every 3 games and assists at roughly the same rate, so if you take him to twenty semifinals and finals with little contribution of his own on the way there, you will see some goals and assists in those finals and semis. Even Pedro make his name when taken to finals


England the team you support don't need players that would come alive in group stage only to go missing when it mattered most. The missing link is the iniesta kind of player.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 9:00pm On Dec 11, 2022
airmark:


Man is no more attracted to oldies, now going for teens like R. Kelly. grin
Choi that comeback thoughcheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:01pm On Dec 11, 2022
popizaino:



Provide your own reputable source that put Xavi ahead of iniesta,it shouldn't be difficult to do since we know ridiculous list when we see one.

That risk putting Pep as 6th and Aragones at 4th while Ramos, Raul, Zarra are lower down invalidates it. It is frankly a very silly list.


And which reputable source did you pull this list from? Esquire magazine!

Hehehehe. Esquire magazine is your reputable source?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 9:02pm On Dec 11, 2022
but on a serious note anybody downplaying iniesta needs his head to be checked seriously,if you notice I have ignored the topic all they ,I no go drag myself down to people that is watching football with Sentiment, enough said.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:05pm On Dec 11, 2022
Havertz10:
Excuses, where is your shame?

Because we are Chelsea, we must beat Villa even if we roll out our development team against their strongest side.

Talmbout my shame, where is your logic?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 9:07pm On Dec 11, 2022
Fourfourtwo a higly reputable football magazine named Xavi No 1 but Esquire magazine a fashion magazine named Iniesta No 1.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-10-best-spanish-players-ever

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 9:08pm On Dec 11, 2022
The way Broja screamed, I fear for him. Giving me RLC 2019 vibes when he got injured in a friendly when the season wasn't over.

This sh!t is ridiculous now, we can't catch a break
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kantebets(m): 9:15pm On Dec 11, 2022
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/dec/11/harry-kane-has-never-made-an-error-this-big-england-penalty-miss-world-cup

Lol

Racists
If na black player now na another narrative e for be
See as them they pamper am just due to skin color
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 9:15pm On Dec 11, 2022
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 9:16pm On Dec 11, 2022
BlueMann:
The way Broja screamed, I fear for him. Giving me RLC 2019 vibes when he got injured in a friendly when the season wasn't over.

This sh!t is ridiculous now, we can't catch a break
the only way to to beat this injury shit is the buying of young players continuously once we buy second club ,so that once a player have this kind of deadly injury,we go to sister club, recall young player ,save us money, simple stuff

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:16pm On Dec 11, 2022
afrodoc2:
Fourfourtwo a higly reputable football magazine named Xavi No 1 but Esquire magazine a fashion magazine named Iniesta No 1.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/ranked-the-10-best-spanish-players-ever

Popizaino won't see this affidavit of Pep and Aragones saying they built everything around Xavi

They even showed Debroslink when everything changed for Spain and Barca based on their decision to build on Xavi, not that foolish lamba he is selling about Iniesta making Xavi from 2008, as if we did not watch the transformation live in 2008

Every player has affidavit. When an attacking player is using affidavit instead of stats, just know something is wrong.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 9:18pm On Dec 11, 2022
Kantebets:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/dec/11/harry-kane-has-never-made-an-error-this-big-england-penalty-miss-world-cup

Lol

Racists
If na black player now na another narrative e for be
See as them they pamper am just due to skin color
I have not see one single article condemning Harry Kane ,the one I saw was blaming Southgate for bringing in rashford,this English people hide their racism subtly,sadly this black players never learn , they'll rather commit to a nation that treats them like trash than trace their Homeland

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