Roland17:


Oh man, this brought genuine joy and happiness to me this morning. Congratulations!!

My own big man. Thank you Chief.

DissTroy:

>Breaking news:
"Kano cleric sent to déath by hanging for blasphemy"
- https://leadership.ng/just-in-kano-cleric-abduljabar-nasiru-kabara-to-die-by-hanging/

This is what Amoto always wanted and defended. "Try him but put him to déath regardless." His exact stance on Deborah's killing too.





So much for those who were defending him and trying to explain away his very obvious stance on fanatical murder.

What d'fuq? Can someone just bring dagger and lets divide this contraption? This shit can never be one.

I mean, can't you see that this forced marriage is not working? Sentence to death?

My Islam has suffered in the hands of ignorant people!

reccy:



What d'fuq? Can someone just bring dagger and lets divide this contraption? This shit can never be one.

I mean, can't you see that this forced marriage is not working? Sentence to death?

My Islam has suffered in the hands of ignorant people!

Lols, you sabi Islam pass Saudi, the home of Islam abi. See this man, calling the highly knowledgeable clerics of Saudi and the North ignorant, who drafted Sharia laws based on the practice of Muhammad when he was alive (from his sayings I posted here yesterday).

Sharia is the core of Islam: Deal with that fact. If you dispute this, you're a munafiq (an infidel). You can't accept Qur'an and reject your prophet's Sunnah unless you're a fake Muslim.

The ruling is perfectly in line with the tenets of Islam.

Some of the haadith (sayings of Muhammad) from which Sharia laws on death penalty for convicted blasphemers were drawn:
https://hadithcollection.com/sahihbukhari/sahih-bukhari-book-59-military-expeditions-led-by-the-prophet-PBUH-al-maghaazi/sahih-bukhari-volume-005-book-059-hadith-number-369

https://azislam.com/punishment-for-insulting-the-prophet

reccy:


What d'fuq? Can someone just bring dagger and lets divide this contraption? This shit can never be one.

I mean, can't you see that this forced marriage is not working? Sentence to death?

My Islam has suffered in the hands of ignorant people!

But Amoto and yourself are supposedly from Kogi. If it's about dividing the country, what part of Kogi would go to liberal Muslims like yourself and countless others I know, and what part would go to murderous fanatical Muslims like Amoto?

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Donjazet2, yes, I have. I'm just putting it out there for them to realize their stance(s) and defence of Amoto were not steeped in or templated on the observable realities amongst the extremists in the Muslim community.

Amoto was clear on what he meant but they tried to whitewash his obvious intentions. Even going as far as gaslighting.

To my fellow Abroadians on this thread.

I take God or whatever you believe in to beg you to be considerate and careful when we talk about the direct impact of Nigeria’s economy on us.

While we may be impacted, it is ABSOLUTELY nothing compared to what Nigerians who live in Nigeria are enduring on the daily. After all, there is a reason we became founding members of the Japa Movement

Our lives outside Nigeria irrespective of social status is nothing compared to the harrowing experience Nigerians, especially young people are facing.

This is why I avoid talking about direct impact because we all have family members and friends in Nigeria who call us on the daily and detail the suffering they are enduring. Some of us have businesses/ foundations in Nigeria and try to support the economy in many ways.

Many of these Nigerians are extremely hardworking and have sacrificed everything to succeed but they are stacked against the worst odds; a very bad economy, irresponsible government and other factors that affect numerous aspects of human life.

I don’t mean we can’t participate in electioneering and campaigning for our candidates but let’s be careful with how we discuss direct impact so we are not insulting the intelligence and suffering Nigerians living in Nigeria are enduring.

#Udo!

Islam is Sunnah and Sunnah is Islam. Sharh us-Sunnah of Imam al-Barbaharee
The Sunnah is the explainer and proof of the Qur'an. Usool Us-sunnah of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal
Had not the Grace of Allah and His Mercy been upon you (O Muhammad SAW), a party of them would certainly have made a decision to mislead you, but (in fact) they mislead none except their own selves, and no harm can they do to you in the least. Allah has sent down to you the Book (The Quran), and Al-Hikmah (Islamic laws, knowledge of legal and illegal things i.e. the Prophet's Sunnah - legal ways), and taught you that which you knew not. And Ever Great is the Grace of Allah unto you (O Muhammad SAW). 4:113
"Our Lord! Send amongst them a Messenger of their own (and indeed Allah answered their invocation by sending Muhammad Peace be upon him), who shall recite unto them Your Verses and instruct them in the Book (this Quran) and Al-Hikmah (full knowledge of the Islamic laws and jurisprudence or wisdom or Prophethood, etc.), and sanctify them. Verily! You are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise." 2:129

Indeed Allah conferred a great favour on the believers when He sent among them a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from among themselves, reciting unto them His Verses (the Quran), and purifying them (from sins by their following him), and instructing them (in) the Book (the Quran) and Al-Hikmah [the wisdom and the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW (i.e. his legal ways, statements, acts of worship, etc.)], while before that they had been in manifest error. 3:164

Similarly (to complete My Blessings on you) We have sent among you a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) of your own, reciting to you Our Verses (the Quran) and sanctifying you, and teaching you the Book (the Quran) and the Hikmah (i.e. Sunnah, Islamic laws and Fiqh - jurisprudence), and teaching you that which you used not to know. 2:151

And when you have divorced women and they have fulfilled the term of their prescribed period, either take them back on reasonable basis or set them free on reasonable basis. But do not take them back to hurt them, and whoever does that, then he has wronged himself. And treat not the Verses (Laws) of Allah as a jest, but remember Allah's Favours on you (i.e. Islam), and that which He has sent down to you of the Book (i.e. the Quran) and Al-Hikmah (the Prophet's Sunnah - legal ways - Islamic jurisprudence, etc.) whereby He instructs you. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is All-Aware of everything. 2:231

And remember (O you the members of the Prophet's family, the Graces of your Lord), that which is recited in your houses of the Verses of Allah and AlHikmah (i.e. Prophet's Sunnah legal ways, etc. so give your thanks to Allah and glorify His Praises for this Quran and the Sunnah). Verily, Allah is Ever Most Courteous, Well Acquainted with all things. 33:34

He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from among themselves, reciting to them His Verses, purifying them (from the filth of disbelief and polytheism), and teaching them the Book (this Quran, Islamic laws and Islamic jurisprudence) and Al-Hikmah (As-Sunnah: legal ways, orders, acts of worship, etc. of Prophet Muhammad SAW). And verily, they had been before in mainfest error; 62:2

Omo, E reach to highlight again.

DissTroy:


Cûrsed be the fingers that typed this. ☝�

Cûrsed be the fingers which exonerate Buhari and dunk on the faces of Nigerians caged in the gazillion anti-people policies of Buhari whom he contributed to bring to power and has continued to foist his insensitivity even in this corner of the internét.

Cûrséd be every waking day of yóurs for ridiculing the millions of Nigerians who have had to be pummeled by the misfortuné of a Buhari presidency yet doubling down to rub salt in their injûries.

Cûrséd be you for repeatedly shoving your insensitivity on the faces or Nigerians yet simultaneously brágging about having it better in a clime where the government functions while doing everything to truncate the ascension to a decent and comfórtable living for even the least Nigerian or her resident of the country.

Cûrsed be you for every manufacturing company in Trans-Amadi, Port Harcourt or Ijoko, Ogun State which has had to shûtdown operations due to the harsh business clime which a Buhári presidency heralded.

Cûrsed be you for defending a man whose nephew siphoned #92 billion meant for startups and evaded prosecution.

Cûrsed be you for whitewashing a man who has entrenched disobeying court orders in the Nigerian system.

Çûrséd be you, Raumdeuter, for your attempts at downplaying the evil that is Buhari!

Amoto94:
Islam is Sunnah and Sunnah is Islam. Sharh us-Sunnah of Imam al-Barbaharee
The Sunnah is the explainer and proof of the Qur'an. Usool Us-sunnah of Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal
Had not the Grace of Allah and His Mercy been upon you (O Muhammad SAW), a party of them would certainly have made a decision to mislead you, but (in fact) they mislead none except their own selves, and no harm can they do to you in the least. Allah has sent down to you the Book (The Quran), and Al-Hikmah (Islamic laws, knowledge of legal and illegal things i.e. the Prophet's Sunnah - legal ways), and taught you that which you knew not. And Ever Great is the Grace of Allah unto you (O Muhammad SAW). 4:113
"Our Lord! Send amongst them a Messenger of their own (and indeed Allah answered their invocation by sending Muhammad Peace be upon him), who shall recite unto them Your Verses and instruct them in the Book (this Quran) and Al-Hikmah (full knowledge of the Islamic laws and jurisprudence or wisdom or Prophethood, etc.), and sanctify them. Verily! You are the All-Mighty, the All-Wise." 2:129

Indeed Allah conferred a great favour on the believers when He sent among them a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from among themselves, reciting unto them His Verses (the Quran), and purifying them (from sins by their following him), and instructing them (in) the Book (the Quran) and Al-Hikmah [the wisdom and the Sunnah of the Prophet SAW (i.e. his legal ways, statements, acts of worship, etc.)], while before that they had been in manifest error. 3:164

Similarly (to complete My Blessings on you) We have sent among you a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) of your own, reciting to you Our Verses (the Quran) and sanctifying you, and teaching you the Book (the Quran) and the Hikmah (i.e. Sunnah, Islamic laws and Fiqh - jurisprudence), and teaching you that which you used not to know. 2:151

And when you have divorced women and they have fulfilled the term of their prescribed period, either take them back on reasonable basis or set them free on reasonable basis. But do not take them back to hurt them, and whoever does that, then he has wronged himself. And treat not the Verses (Laws) of Allah as a jest, but remember Allah's Favours on you (i.e. Islam), and that which He has sent down to you of the Book (i.e. the Quran) and Al-Hikmah (the Prophet's Sunnah - legal ways - Islamic jurisprudence, etc.) whereby He instructs you. And fear Allah, and know that Allah is All-Aware of everything. 2:231

And remember (O you the members of the Prophet's family, the Graces of your Lord), that which is recited in your houses of the Verses of Allah and AlHikmah (i.e. Prophet's Sunnah legal ways, etc. so give your thanks to Allah and glorify His Praises for this Quran and the Sunnah). Verily, Allah is Ever Most Courteous, Well Acquainted with all things. 33:34

He it is Who sent among the unlettered ones a Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from among themselves, reciting to them His Verses, purifying them (from the filth of disbelief and polytheism), and teaching them the Book (this Quran, Islamic laws and Islamic jurisprudence) and Al-Hikmah (As-Sunnah: legal ways, orders, acts of worship, etc. of Prophet Muhammad SAW). And verily, they had been before in mainfest error; 62:2

reccy, you don hear so? Just accept the barbaric practices of your religion like that. Don't live in denial like those two fools yesterday.

DissTroy:


But Amoto and yourself are supposedly from Kogi. If it's about dividing the country, what part of Kogi would go to liberal Muslims like yourself and countless others I know, and what part would go to murderous fanatical Muslims like Amoto?

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Donjazet2, yes, I have. I'm just putting it out there for them to realize their stance(s) and defence of Amoto were not steeped in or templated on the observable realities amongst the extremists in the Muslim community.

Amoto was clear on what he meant but they tried to whitewash his obvious intentions. Even going as far as gaslighting.

What? I used to think Amoto is a core notherner...due to the way he responds like one who's been radicalised.

DissTroy:

>Breaking news:
"Kano cleric sent to déath by hanging for blasphemy"
- https://leadership.ng/just-in-kano-cleric-abduljabar-nasiru-kabara-to-die-by-hanging/

This is what Amoto always wanted and defended. "Try him but put him to déath regardless." His exact stance on Deborah's killing too.





So much for those who were defending him and trying to explain away his very obvious stance on fanatical murder.

But who sentenced the cleric to death?

This otem worshiper is just dull and stupid
Ebukacute no be you I they talk

During the life of prophet
There was no story or hadith to back up he killed or ordered death of infidels but after his death the sunnah suddenly changed
If Qur'an say don't kill and hadith says kill
Common sense is you research or ask why the 2 books are contradicting each other but nay islam is the problem

What a mugu

Emaprince:
What? I used to think Amoto is a core notherner...due to the way he responds like one who's been radicalised.

Dude issa jihadist.
Fear who no fear am.

Donjazet2:


Yes, suddenly opposition politicians are the best source of choice when making decisions.
Dey there dey play. Dey play with you and your country future. Dey play ooo.

No surprises, attack the messenger and leave the message.

By the way, why not ask Fashola what he thinks of Buharis government and see what he'll tell you. I was under the impression you can only get the truth about any government from critics of that government.

Rather than prove to us that what he said is false, you'll rather dismiss it and say its just opposition politicians.

Continue

Donjazet2:


I will like to know your opinion on this piece.
Do you agree with what is said here?

My opinion on the election is well documented on this board. I will prefer not to repeat myself

raumdeuter:


Its good that this video was 5yrs old so its not because of Obi running for presidency,
Everyone who commented on Obi administration in Anambra always has terrible things to say even those who are now championing his campaign now

We have seen threads where curses were heaped on him, videos saying how useless he was even tweets wishing they never witness his administration ever again

If you even watch the whole of the video, the man claimed that Ojukwu was vehemently against the second tenure of PO. For a man whose followers boast about his performance as Governor, the immediate question that comes to mind is why?

Was Ojukwu oblivious of this stellar performance?

iamoyindamola:
During the life of prophet
There was no story or hadith to back up he killed or ordered death of infidels but after his death the sunnah suddenly changed
If Qur'an say don't kill and hadith says kill
Common sense is you research or ask why the 2 books are contradicting each other but nay islam is the problem

What a mugu

The truth is you will find whatever you are looking for in the Qur'an

Some verses tell you Christians will never be pleased with you until you adopt their religion, others will tell you they are people of the book.

Emaprince:
What? I used to think Amoto is a core notherner...due to the way he responds like one who's been radicalised.

In the end it comes down to the person. Shemima begum and jihadi John were born bred and buttered in the UK. A liberal society that has nihilistjnr embracing his inner commie pinko bleeding heart liberal.

And yet in less than a year jihadi John was beheading infidels in the name of Allah.

nihilistjnr:


But who sentenced the cleric to death?

A Kano Sharia court - same one Amoto gave as the requirement before punishment.

Jungle justice or trial, death was the inevitable for Deborah at the hands of bloodsuckers. The mob only hastened the eventuality.

Emaprince:
What? I used to think Amoto is a core notherner...due to the way he responds like one who's been radicalised.

He's an Ebira boy from Kogi but make no mistake that we have Shekau-lite amongst us.
Let's just hope you don't have Twin Towers in your city else...

DissTroy:

A Kano Sharia court - same one Amoto gave as the requirement before punishment.

Jungle justice or trial, death was the inevitable for Deborah at the hands of bloodsuckers. The mob only hastened the eventuality.

He's an Ebira boy from Kogi but make no mistake that we have Shekau-lite amongst us.
Let's just hope you don't have Twin Towers in your city else...

are you telling me a Sharia court can trial a non Muslim on account of making blasphemous statement against Islam or the prophet?

Itsrm:


If you even watch the whole of the video, the man claimed that Ojukwu was vehemently against the second tenure of PO. For a man whose followers boast about his performance as Governor, the immediate question that comes to mind is why?

Was Ojukwu oblivious of this stellar performance?

Lool,thank God for the internet oooo....Even Tinubu's newspaper says otherwise

GloriousGbola:



The truth is you will find whatever you are looking for in the Qur'an

Some verses tell you Christians will never be pleased with you until you adopt their religion, others will tell you they are people of the book.

Exactly
Prophet himself used Qur'an as guideline in his days
Then told his followers to write his way which is hadith, it is just like lecturer dictating you know some students will write off point and the lecturer will never check note
Why will the prophet not be a violent person in his days then suddenly told his followers to be one after his death
This common sense is not common abeg

Another example : I embark on a journey using a compass, during the journey i create a map
You are going on the same journey, i give you both the map and the compass which i stated i used the compass for my own journey and created a map to make your journey easy.
You have been using both directives but half way the compass and the map contradict each other
Which will you follow Map or Compass to continue your journey

Itsrm:


No surprises, attack the messenger and leave the message.

By the way, why not ask Fashola what he thinks of Buharis government and see what he'll tell you. I was under the impression you can only get the truth about any government from critics of that government.

Rather than prove to us that what he said is false, you'll rather dismiss it and say its just opposition politicians.
Continue

Oga whatever you may perceive as Obi's shortcomings, Tinubu's is 10 times worst.
We have to make a choice because one of them must rule us by this time next year.

Whose will be better?? That's the question.
Statistics has shown us that Obi performed better than Tinubu "relative to resources available".
Obi has astounding legacies on education, rural development and economic balancing in the state.
One of the only governors not to borrow a single dime throughout his tenure in office, do you know what that means? A governor who at the time of leaving office was not owing any single salary or pension. A governor who has not received a penny from state government while others feed fat on state resources.

I could go on and on but I'm sure you already know all these but is trying Soo hard to give yourself flimsy reason why you would be a coward on the sidelines. Sorry for that word but it is what it is. Saying you're not voting is an absolute surrender to the wicked politics being played. Keep playing the ostrich.

Atiku might deliver a shocker this election. In recent months, a lot of Northerners in APC have been decamping to PDP. Plus, I think Atiku will win Jigawa, Niger and Cross River. And Atiku has the best chance of coming second in states he won't win. Plus, I don't trust Northern politicians not to betray Tinubu in February.


But if the Northerners remain loyal to APC and Tinubu uses INEC power + vote buying, he may win. Solid learning experience for Peter Obi though. He'll consolidate on this for future elections.

GloriousGbola:


In the end it comes down to the person. Shemima begum and jihadi John were born bred and buttered in the UK. A liberal society that has nihilistjnr embracing his inner commie pinko bleeding heart liberal.

And yet in less than a year jihadi John was beheading infidels in the name of Allah.

You are right. It comes down to the individual. But then, In this section there is no denying who amoto is..no matter how it is twisted. Just like In Nigeria we know who are the liberal muslims and the fanatics.

Keep giving yourself flimsy reasons for not voting in the governor of the decade.

ShaqFu:
are you telling me a Sharia court can trial a non Muslim on account of making blasphemous statement against Islam or the prophet?

Joe, you've forgotten so soon a Nigerian atheist , Mubarak Bala, who was kidnapped by Hisbah since 2020 then after international outcry he was tried for blasphemy and sentenced to 24 years imprisonment this year?

He only got away with prison sentence because of pressure groups from the West.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-60997606

Donjazet2:


Oga whatever you may perceive as Obi's shortcomings, Tinubu's is 10 times worst.
We have to make a choice because one of them must rule us by this time next year.

Whose will be better?? That's the question.
Statistics has shown us that Obi performed better than Tinubu "relative to resources available".
Obi jas astounding legacies on education, rural development and economic balancing in the state.
One of the only governors not to borrow a single dime throughout his tenure in office, do you know what that means? A governor who at the time of leaving office was not owing any single salary or pension. A governor who has not received a penny from state government while others feed fat on state resources.

I could go on and on but I'm sure you already know all these but is trying Soo hard to give yourself flimsy reason why you would be a coward on the sidelines. Sorry for that word but it is what it is. Saying you're not voting is an absolute surrender to the wicked politics being played. Keep playing the ostrich.

Which statistics? Oluwole own abi which one?

Peter Obi didn't borrow a dime as Governor or what is this that I read?

Mention 1 Peter Obi legacy in Education. Let's start from there.


NB: I see you ghosted the question I asked you last night so let me ask you again.

Donjazet, who did you campaign and voted for in 2015?

larride:


Which statistics? Oluwole own abi which one?

Peter Obi didn't borrow a dime as Governor or what is this that I read?

Mention 1 Peter Obi legacy in Education. Let's start from there.
NB: I see you ghosted the question I asked you last night so let me ask you again.

Donjazet, who did you campaign and voted for in 2015?

Obi handed all missionary schools back to churches'management for effective management but still provided resources and requipping of all of them plus increasing and prompt payment of teachers salary for better education.

2. I campaigned and voted for buhari because I believed that as a former military general, he would be better equipped to handle the insecurity issue and that he wouldn't be easily controlled by the Cabal. I also believed he would fight corruption based on his work in ptf. But he failed woefully!!

DissTroy:


A Kano Sharia court - same one Amoto gave as the requirement before punishment.

So your beef is with Amoto for stating that he agrees with the law of the land.

How are you going to get angry with Amoto for saying he agrees with the Judicial System?

Is he the one that created Sharia Court in Kano?
Is he the one that ensured that the Court found that man guilty of Blasphemy?
Did Amoto hold a gun to the judges' heads and ask them to issue the death penalty?
Is it Amoto that allowed such rulings to be constitutional?

Unless I'm missing something particularly obvious, I am failing to see why Amoto has been brought into this issue

Jungle justice or trial, death was the inevitable for Deborah at the hands of bloodsuckers. The mob only hastened the eventuality.

Deborah was never tried in court, so we do not know what the outcome could have been.

I think that your anger is misplaced. We cannot all think alike - this is why a judicial system exists, to administer the law of the land impartially, regardless of our individual beliefs.

Amoto is from Kogi, despite his beliefs, Shariah court cannot apply capital punishment to indigenes of that state - that's fine, Amoto is OK with that.

However if in Kano, that Sharia Court is allowed to execute people, then Amoto supports their ruling all the way. The key factor here is the LAW OF THE LAND, as seen in Amoto's own words below.

Amoto94:

I never supported the jungle justice that was meted out to Deborah
stop conflating my support for judicial trial of the accused with support for unlawful /mob action.

My fellow Nigerians, you cannot look at the efforts and radiant joy and hope on the faces of your fellow Nigerians here and not be cowed into joining this fight for a better Nigeria.
Just go into this page and see all the motivation you need to join this effort to save Nigeria.

Make sure you have your PVC! It's your only weapon against this evil government. This government that has brought pain, suffering anguish upon its citizens. Go out there and minister hope to your loved one's. All hope is not lost for a new Nigeria is POssible.

https://www.nairaland.com/7481909/obidents-display-pvc-cards-photos#119175275

Anyone that discusses the barbaric practices (Sharia) of Islam has become the worshipper of the nairalander called Otem. Foolish infidel.

A nominal Muslim that only reads Qur'an in English is correcting Saudi, the home of Islam, and the muftis of the North who knows Qur'an and Sunnah inside and out being scholars of Arabic.

Wonders shall never end. The stupidity of the iamoyindamola guy knows no bounds.

Sharia is the core of Islam, yet the fool doesn't agree with this, and he calls himself a Muslim.

The fool thinks many Arab nations with a majority of Muslim population only practice Sharia for nothing.

Those nations understand Arabic and know Qur'an and Sunnah (Muhammad's recorded deeds) well, unlike this ignorant guy that only reads Qur'an in English.

You don't understand Islam till you understand Arabic. That's a fact.