Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Ttalk: 4:18am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Odibembem:
You couldn't had replied him better. Don't know why these spare parts sellers cos they have smart phones just jump on threads to comment on matters beyond their brain capacities. This isn't for his type That's to show that the guy exposure to other parts of the country is limited. A local man will always carry his local mind everywhere, they are not ashamed of their tribalism and bigotry. Example on Nairaland is Gidigidi and Mrvitalis. Example in Nigeria is PMB |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by nnamdi640: 4:41am On Dec 18, 2022 |
ManirBK: interesting but Yoruba are not flat headers And Igbos are not cone headers |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by faceLAGOS: 4:45am On Dec 18, 2022 |
nnamdi640: And Igbos are not cone headers 2 mad people 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Alusiizizi(m): 5:36am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Napata77: Historians and anthropologists have long known that Igbo and Yoruba are just linguistic derivatives of an original shared super language. Other language groups in Nigeria and the West African sub-region may also be speaking derivatives of this ancient super language we once shared.
Nothing proves these connections more than the multiplicity of words and meanings shared by the two ethnic groups, Yoruba and Igbo.
It also proves that there was a time when these two groups were ONE, and that Igbos and Yorubas are brothers and sisters from deepest antiquity.
By Kelechi Wachuku
Linguist & Anthropologist
This isn’t a fully comprehensive list, but these include a fair number of words and other similarities. [1] The Igbo word comes first with the corresponding Yoruba word right after.
Here’s a list of many cognates and similar words:
Animals:
ikwiikwii (Igbo) = owl owiwi (Yoruba) = owl agu (Igbo) = leopard ẹkun (Yoruba) = leopard adịdị (Igbo) =young female fowl, hen adie (Yoruba) =fowl, hen ehi/efi (Igbo) = cow efon (Yoruba) = buffalo ewu = goat ewúrẹ= goat azụ = fish eja = fish enyi = elephant erin = elephant
Other similar words that may be the result of borrowing (Animals):
toro toro = turkey tolotolo = turkey
Body Parts/Words Relating to the Body:
ọnụ = mouth ẹnu = mouth ire = tongue ede = tongue, especially in the sense of "language." ntị = ear eti = ear agba=chin agbọn=chin ụbụrụ = brain ọpọlọ = brain aka = hand ika = finger ikiaka = elbow ejika = elbow imi = nose imu = nose isi = head ori = head ụkwụ = foot, leg -kun in “orokun” = knee ezé = tooth eyin/ehin = tooth afọ = stomach ifun = intestines ike = buttocks, anus ikun = stomach ọkpụkpụ = bone/skeleton egungun = bone/skeleton olu = neck ọrun = neck ọdụ = tail iru = tail
Miscellaneous:
ri = eat jẹ = eat bịa = come wa = come ogo = height iga = height obi = heart, king ọba = king ume = breath, energy imi = breath also umi in central yoruba (same meaning) okwu = speech, word, utterance ohun = voice, utterance uche= mind ọkan = mind úgwù = circumcision egun = circumcision (seldom used) ọría = disease arun/aarun = disease also related to yoruba aarẹ and arirẹ ụra = sleep orun = sleep nso nso = menstruate osuosu = menstruate gba= shoot in igbo gba = kick in yoruba (used in certain expressions) ogwu = thorn ẹgun = thorn re = sell ra = buy
Similar Words (likely due to borrowing):
iba=fever iba=fever
Possible cognates:
ikiri ụkwụ = heel igigirisẹ = heel akụ́ = arrow (1 of 2 possible words for “arrow”). ọkọ = spear
Numbers:
atọ = three ẹta/(m)ẹta = three anọ = four ẹrin/(m)ẹrin = four Many Igbo words, especially numbers, are prefixed by a “ke-” or sometimes “nke” when they become adjectives. A similar process is seen in Yoruba numbers. nke atọ, keanọ, keise, nke isii, keọkara = 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, half in Igbo kẹta/ikẹta, kẹrin/ikẹrin, karun/ikarun, kẹfa/ikẹfa = 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th in Yoruba
Possible Cognates:
abụọ = two (m)eji = two Words with “-j-“ in Yoruba (IPA: -dʒ-) frequently evolved from -b-“ in Yoruba as a result of palatalization. So, words like “eje (blood)” were once “ebye.” Thus, “-ji” in “eji” may have at one point been something like “ebye” or “ebyi,” which would be more similar to “abụọ.”
Pronouns:
ọ or o= he/she/it (3rd person subject pronoun) o or ó = he/she/it (3rd person subject pronoun) oun/ọ or also un = he/she/it m/mụ = I/me (1st person singular subject and object) also mean "my" if put after, say, a noun. aka m(ụ) = my hand mo = I (1st person singular subject) mi = me (1st person singular object) also mean "my" if put after, say, a noun. ika mi = my finger emi = 1st person singular emphatic. ha = they (a)wọn = they ụnụ = you (plural) ẹyin = you (plural) gini = what ki(ni) = what Land Features/Environment:
ala = land ile = land in yoruba okute/okwute = stone/rock okuta = stone/rock afufe = wind ifufe = wind oyi = cold oyii = wind in Central Yoruba osisi = tree/plant ose = fruit
Similar Words (likely due to borrowing):
ọka = corn ọkà = grain/wheat yoruba
Possible Cognates:
ji = yam iṣu = yam ụwa = earth in igbo yoruba cognates (iwa, wiwa, hardly used except for in names, like Oluwa); (oni/olu = owner, “oluwa=owner of the earth”), oduduwa (great one who created the earth) (odu=great or mighty one→ god sent down from heaven in ile ife) (pg 148)[2]
Above: Oduduwa
ebe = place ibi = place ugwu = moutain/hill oke = mountain (m)miri = water omi = water in Yoruba
Religious/Community Terms:
ute = mat itẹ=throne in yoruba ife = to worship, to wave, to adore ife = love, desire, affection in yoruba afa = divination, sorcery ọfọ = mourning, sorcery ifá = divination ụlọ=house in igbo ile/ule=house in yoruba ilu = city in yoruba ụlọ mmụọ/ụlọ nsọ = shrine ileumole/ileorisha = shrine mmụọ = spirit ụmọle = another word for any generic god in Central Yoruba ẹmi also means spirit, life, soul in yoruba ọlịsa = God in some Igbo dialects also alụshị/alụsị = minor god in standard Igbo orisha = god in yoruba uru = gain, profit ere = gain, profit efu = free (adverb) ofo = free, as in “ṣ’ofo” (yoruba) osi/isi/esi = cook in igbo ase = cook in yoruba apo=bag in yoruba akpa=bag in igbo
Possible Cognates:
ígwè = iron ogun = Yoruba god of iron (eke)le = greeting (iki)ni = greeting
Family/Interpersonal Words:
ụmụ = children ọmọ = child nwa=child ewe=child, youth in certain dialects oyi = companion, friend, lover aayo = favorite, preferable, beloved person, favorite person, favorite wife ọká=expert or distinguished indivual (oka mgba=wrestler) ọgá = boss ọgbọ = age-mate ẹgbẹ = age-mate “emeka bu ogbo m(ụ)” (Igbo) = Emeka’s my agemate “egbe mi ni emeka” or “emeka jẹ egbe mi” (Yoruba)= Emeka’s my age-mate
Note: egbe is now commonly used for group, association, or guild, and in igbo, ọgbọ can mean generation.
oru/ohu = job, labor, duty, employment, slave ẹru = slave oke = man, male, masculine akọ= man, male, masculine onye = one who, who, person eniyan = person, human also ẹni/ọni/ ọniyan in Central Yoruba ọni can mean “one who” in yoruba, as in “oniwaasu” (preacher/one who preaches) nwuye = wife -aya/iyawo = wife nwanyị = woman, female person, wife -aya/iyawo = wife iko = adultery ọkọ=husband nta = marksmanship/hunting ụta = bow in igbo ọta = marksman, shooter ịyaa = mother, aunt, term of deference for an elder cousin who was one’s nanny iya = mother, term of deference for an elderly woman agha = war ogun = war ebo = clan, kindred, lineage, tribe ẹbi = family
https://www.quora.com/What-are-some-similar-words-in-the-Igbo-and-Yoruba-Languages
Wrong. A few similar words cannot prove genetic connection, for example, many English words are Romantic in origin but the mechanics of the English language shows a Germanic heritage. Igbo language, mechanically is far more related to Ibibio than any other language in Nigeria, mechanically. What's more, by physical appearance they share more similarities than any other peoples in Nigeria. The seemingly shared words between Igbo/Yoruba is very likely borrowed from Edo(Benin Kingdom), which the Igbo have a long history of interaction with. 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Osariemen12: 5:39am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Good. Yorubas and Igbos can be one but let no man drag my Bini into Yoruba affairs. |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by DeepThroater: 5:52am On Dec 18, 2022 |
By Kelechi Wachuku
From we wuz juice to now we wuz Yoruba.
Igbo no go kill me with their lost and found history. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by DeepThroater: 5:54am On Dec 18, 2022 |
AlfaSeltzer: Unity beggar. Lies from the pit of heaven.
We never spoke the nonsense from the children of the fallen demon that hit his head on Olumo rock. Satan forbid! The author is a confused OSU like yourself. 2 Likes |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Armaggedon: 5:55am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Napata77:
When qualified linguists and language professors who have spent decades studying these things are talking, your job is to keep quiet and learn.
Arguing with them from your layman perspective coloured by ethnic sentiments is just not gonna cut it.
You are not so smart to know about Verecundiam fallacy, are you? Neither are you so learned to understand that research of this nature requires archaeological, strong genetic and language structure links, instead of comparing few words which obviously evolved after being borrowed along the line. No one pseudo intellectual should rail road us into accepting as reality what is infact a utopia of fake brotherhood. |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Napata77: 6:26am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Ttalk: I think the only people in Nigeria that doesn't belong to the same genetic lineage is the Fulani, every other people are just the same.
For example the traditional fishing method of Awori of Yoruba people is almost the same with the Ahoada people in Rivers state. When you travels different parts of Nigeria you begin to see things that point to this common descendant that could not have been coincidence You're absolutely correct. |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Benwallt(m): 7:48am On Dec 18, 2022 |
I thought ukwu means big yansh so it means leg |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Mercury12(m): 8:23am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Napata77:
I am Igbo and grew up and have lived in Lagos for decades.
NOT ONCE in all my interactions with Yoruba people have I had any 'hatred' exhibited towards me because of my Igbo ethnicity. My childhood friends were Yoruba, Igbo, and a few Hausa. We played together, partied together, and ate in each others houses daily, and still do, today.
And I'm sure I'm not the only Igbo person who can say all this.
So I've no idea where some of you get the impression that Yorubas hate Igbos.
I'm certain that people who say this stuff are people who've never actually lived among Yorubas.
Well said! |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Elliotwaveforec: 11:38am On Dec 18, 2022 |
Igbos came from Ile ife, conquered by the Igalas and Binis; they're not needed anyway like the Binis who've estranged themselves from Ile Ife. |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by JASONjnr(m): 1:35pm On Dec 18, 2022 |
Napata77:
I am Igbo and grew up and have lived in Lagos for decades.
NOT ONCE in all my interactions with Yoruba people have I had any 'hatred' exhibited towards me because of my Igbo ethnicity. My childhood friends were Yoruba, Igbo, and a few Hausa. We played together, partied together, and ate in each others houses daily, and still do, today.
And I'm sure I'm not the only Igbo person who can say all this.
So I've no idea where some of you get the impression that Yorubas hate Igbos.
I'm certain that people who say this stuff are people who've never actually lived among Yorubas.
Your point isn't valid... ow, with your friends, grow up and manage to get a link that will give you a job...Or grow to where you all are to be appointed a job and you will understand the sentiments... You can enjoy your friendships and nothing more... |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by JASONjnr(m): 1:38pm On Dec 18, 2022 |
Armaggedon: You are not so smart to know about Verecundiam fallacy, are you? Neither are you so learned to understand that research of this nature requires archaeological, strong genetic and language structure links, instead of comparing few words which obviously evolved after being borrowed along the line. No one pseudo intellectual should rail road us into accepting as reality what is infact a utopia of fake brotherhood. You said that Napata77 isn't smart, yet you couldn't tell that this post was all about language link like you clearly stated . You're the one that's not smart ... 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by AjaanaOka(m): 3:00pm On Dec 18, 2022 |
It's almost 2023, and there are educated Nigerians who do not know that all the languages spoken in Nigeria, except for Hausa (and its small brothers in the Chadic family), Kanuri and one or two other language isolates ultimately descended from a single proto-language called Proto-Niger-Congo?
How is this not common knowledge yet? Everybody in Europe knows that most European languages together with a bunch of languages in South Asia and Iran are sister languages. This is information that is taken for granted. But here, university graduates are still arguing and fighting over whether Igbo and Yoruba are related. Our education system can do a lot better.
By the way, all the words on that list are not cognates.
I fail to see how azụ (Igbo) and eja (Yoruba) are related. Or how eyin/ehin (Yoruba) and eze (Igbo) are related. Obi (Igbo) certainly has a very different root from ọba (Yoruba). Sister languages branch off and acquire new unrelated words by various means, and this has been the case with Igbo and Yoruba. 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Napata77: 10:59pm On Dec 18, 2022 |
AjaanaOka: It's almost 2023, and there are educated Nigerians who do not know that all the languages spoken in Nigeria, except for Hausa (and its small brothers in the Chadic family), Kanuri and one or two other language isolates ultimately descended from a single proto-language called Proto-Niger-Congo?
How is this not common knowledge yet? Everybody in Europe knows that most European languages together with a bunch of languages in South Asia and Iran are sister languages. This is information that is taken for granted. But here, university graduates are still arguing and fighting over whether Igbo and Yoruba are related. Our education system can do a lot better.
By the way, all the words on that list are not cognates.
I fail to see how azụ (Igbo) and eja (Yoruba) are related. Or how eyin/ehin (Yoruba) and eze (Igbo) are related eze and eyin are linkable. Simply loosening the consonant z produces a sound similar to eyin whose 'n' is unpronounced. It appears the Yorubas and Igbos shared the word 'eze', and after the separation, the word slowly morphed into 'ehe', then 'ehin' or eyin' in Yorubaland, while the Igbos retained the original version of eze. 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by AjaanaOka(m): 12:53am On Dec 19, 2022 |
Napata77:
eze and eyin are linkable.
Simply loosening the consonant z produces a sound similar to eyin whose 'n' is unpronounced.
It appears the Yorubas and Igbos shared the word 'eze', and after the separation, the word slowly morphed into 'ehe', then 'ehin' or eyin' in Yorubaland, while the Igbos retained the original version of eze. I see no regular sound correspondence between both languages that support the sort of sound change you're proposing. For example, are there other examples where a 'z' in Igbo varies as 'h' or 'y' in Yoruba? Here is a short list of the words for 'tooth' in a number of closely related languages, classified as either NOI (Nupoid-Oko-Idomoid) languages or as YEAI (Yoruboid-Edoid-Akokoid-Igboid) languages: Yoruba - Eyin/Ehin Igala (a Yoruboid language) - Enyi Akokoid - Eyin Ebira - Anyi Idoma - Ainu Edo and Edoid languages - Akon Nupe - Ika Gbagyi - Nyikna. Igbo - Eze The Igbo word is the ONLY odd word in this cluster. It is, in its form, very distant from all the rest; and is very probably not directly cognate with them. Taking it away, it is possible to propose a hypothesis that the rest of the words descend from a common ancestral word, which probably sounded close to the Gbagyi form, *Nyikna. One can quite easily see how eyin/ehin, anyi and enyi could be formed from the loss of the second syllable in *nyikna; and how ika and akon could develop from the loss of the initial sound of the same ancestral word. But eze? That word most probably came from a different source. In an old discussion here with ChinenyeN, I suggested that there was a very old relationship between Proto-Igboid and the ancestral language(s) of the Lower Cross Language Family (this family includes Obolo/Andoni and the Ibibioid languages), and that some words in modern Igbo which are not cognate with their counterparts in modern Yoruba, Edoid and Akokoid languages may be early loans from Proto-Lower Cross. One example I gave was the Igbo word for canoe or boat (ugbo), which is not cognate with the word for this item in Yoruba/Edoid/Akokoid, but seemingly cognate with Ibibioid words for the same item (*ubom). Another example is the Igbo word for vulture (udele) which is cognate with Ibibioid words for the same bird, but not with words for it in Yoruboid/Edoid/Akokoid and even Nupoid/Oko/Idomoid, which all have a -gu- root. Eze seems, to me, to be another Lower Cross loan. The reconstructed proto-Lower Cross word for tooth is *edet, and is more than likely to be cognate with 'eze'. From a preliminary survey of just a few Lower Cross words, it does appear to me that 'd', or 'di' in Lower Cross can vary as/change to 'j' or 'z' in Igbo. *idiok (bad/ugly in Ibibioid) is probably cognate with ajo/njo in Igbo { di/j sound correspondence}, and *idiok (chimpanzee in Ibibioid) is probably cognate with ozo dimgba in Igbo To this one may add: *edet (tooth in Ibibioid) is probably cognate with eze in Igbo. (I'll note here that Roger Blench reconstructs tooth in proto-Igboid as eje. A lot of words with z in their modern forms were reconstructed to their ancestral forms by him with a j. This may have been true of the ozo example as well; and a later change of some j's to z's may have occurred.) 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Napata77: 3:22am On Dec 19, 2022 |
AjaanaOka:
I see no regular sound correspondence between both languages that support the sort of sound change you're proposing. For example, are there other examples where a 'z' in Igbo varies as 'h' or 'y' in Yoruba?
Here is a short list of the words for 'tooth' in a number of closely related languages, classified as either NOI (Nupoid-Oko-Idomoid) languages or as YEAI (Yoruboid-Edoid-Akokoid-Igboid) languages: Yoruba - Eyin/Ehin Igala (a Yoruboid language) - Enyi Akokoid - Eyin Ebira - Anyi Idoma - Ainu Edo and Edoid languages - Akon Nupe - Ika Gbagyi - Nyikna. Igbo - Eze
The Igbo word is the ONLY odd word in this cluster. It is, in its form, very distant from all the rest; and is very probably not directly cognate with them. Taking it away, it is possible to propose a hypothesis that the rest of the words descend from a common ancestral word, which probably sounded close to the Gbagyi form, *Nyikna. One can quite easily see how eyin/ehin, anyi and enyi could be formed from the loss of the second syllable in *nyikna; and how ika and akon could develop from the loss of the initial sound of the same ancestral word.
But eze? That word most probably came from a different source. In an old discussion here with ChinenyeN, I suggested that there was a very old relationship between Proto-Igboid and the ancestral language(s) of the Lower Cross Language Family (this family includes Obolo/Andoni and the Ibibioid languages), and that some words in modern Igbo which are not cognate with their counterparts in modern Yoruba, Edoid and Akokoid languages may be early loans from Proto-Lower Cross. One example I gave was the Igbo word for canoe or boat (ugbo), which is not cognate with the word for this item in Yoruba/Edoid/Akokoid, but seemingly cognate with Ibibioid words for the same item (*ubom). Another example is the Igbo word for vulture (udele) which is cognate with Ibibioid words for the same bird, but not with words for it in Yoruboid/Edoid/Akokoid and even Nupoid/Oko/Idomoid, which all have a -gu- root.
Eze seems, to me, to be another Lower Cross loan. The reconstructed proto-Lower Cross word for tooth is *edet, and is more than likely to be cognate with 'eze'. From a preliminary survey of just a few Lower Cross words, it does appear to me that 'd', or 'di' in Lower Cross can vary as/change to 'j' or 'z' in Igbo.
*idiok (bad/ugly in Ibibioid) is probably cognate with ajo/njo in Igbo { di/j sound correspondence}, and *idiok (chimpanzee in Ibibioid) is probably cognate with ozo dimgba in Igbo
To this one may add: *edet (tooth in Ibibioid) is probably cognate with eze in Igbo.
(I'll note here that Roger Blench reconstructs tooth in proto-Igboid as eje. A lot of words with z in their modern forms were reconstructed to their ancestral forms by him with a j. This may have been true of the ozo example as well; and a later change of some j's to z's may have occurred.)
But the high volume of cognates on the list cannot be obviated by one or two words with a disputable connection. 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Maazieze(m): 11:22pm On Dec 19, 2022 |
I dont get why everyone is acting like this is a new revelation, looking at linguistic mapes you will see igbo and yoruba and a hos tof other languages are within the Volta niger language continuum, its likely they share a linguistic ancestor some thousand years back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volta%E2%80%93Niger_languages But i can see the true purpose of the post, yes their shouldnt be animosity between igbo's and yoruba's, i myself am an igbo man thats lived in yorubaland, my only regret before going was not learning yoruba myself. 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Antivirus92(m): 6:22am On Dec 22, 2022 |
Yoruba and Igbo never spoke one language! Few similar sounding words do not equate to speaking one language.....
There's no history to back this up. |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by MimiSheWrote(f): 5:23pm On Dec 23, 2022 |
Lol people are really naive... You only need common sense to know that OP is making sense... Cos an apple doesn't fall far away from its tree.
Yoruba and Igbo are too close geographically not to have shared the same ancestors or language at some point... Language evolves faster than you can imagine.
If you managed to travel back in time to about 2000 years ago as an Igbo or yoruba, I doubt you would understand a single word coming out of your ancestors mouth.
The only sad thing about we Africans is that our history wasn't properly documented. Just some embarrassing mythical stories 4 Likes |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by RedboneSmith(m): 1:25am On Dec 24, 2022 |
MimiSheWrote: Lol people are really naive... You only need common sense to know that OP is making sense... Cos an apple doesn't fall far away from its tree.
Yoruba and Igbo are too close geographically not to have shared the same ancestors or language at some point... Language evolves faster than you can imagine.
If you managed to travel back in time to about 2000 years ago as an Igbo or yoruba, I doubt you would understand a single word coming out of your ancestors mouth.
The only sad thing about we Africans is that our history wasn't properly documented. Just some embarrassing mythical stories 2000 years sef far. If we go back just 500 years ago, it will be extremely hard, to communicate with our own people. Forget 1000 years ago. You will understand nothing. When you look at languages that have a long history of writing you'll realise how true this is. Take English for example. Shakespeare wrote his plays 450 years ago. English speakers today struggle to understand him. In school, we had to use the glossary pages to make sense of plays like Macbeth and Merchant of Venice. Another English writer, Chaucer, wrote Canterbury Tales 630 years ago. I have tried to read it. I no understand wetin him dey talk. And this was "only" 630 years ago. 2 Likes |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Probz(m): 1:40am On Dec 24, 2022 |
RedboneSmith:
2000 years sef far. If we go back just 500 years ago, it will be extremely hard, to communicate with our own people. Forget 1000 years ago. You will understand nothing.
When you look at languages that have a long history of writing you'll realise how true this is. Take English for example. Shakespeare wrote his plays 450 years ago. English speakers today struggle to understand him. In school, we had to use the glossary pages to make sense of plays like Macbeth and Merchant of Venice. Another English writer, Chaucer, wrote Canterbury Tales 630 years ago. I have tried to read it. I no understand wetin him dey talk. And this was "only" 630 years ago. Heck, a book written in the 1950s would differ significantly in terms of syntax (although I do tend to somewhat align with it in certain ways because I just happen to be old-skool). 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by MimiSheWrote(f): 1:41am On Dec 24, 2022 |
RedboneSmith:
2000 years sef far. If we go back just 500 years ago, it will be extremely hard, to communicate with our own people. Forget 1000 years ago. You will understand nothing.
When you look at languages that have a long history of writing you'll realise how true this is. Take English for example. Shakespeare wrote his plays 450 years ago. English speakers today struggle to understand him. In school, we had to use the glossary pages to make sense of plays like Macbeth and Merchant of Venice. Another English writer, Chaucer, wrote Canterbury Tales 630 years ago. I have tried to read it. I no understand wetin him dey talk. And this was "only" 630 years ago. Fact. 1 Like |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by Probz(m): 1:42am On Dec 24, 2022 |
AlfaSeltzer: Unity beggar. Lies from the pit of heaven.
We never spoke the nonsense from the children of the fallen demon that hit his head on Olumo rock. Satan forbid! You might want to relax. See if anyone has any lorazepam and kush going spare for Christmas. |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by AlfaSeltzer(m): 5:09am On Dec 24, 2022 |
Probz:
You might want to relax. See if anyone has any lorazepam and kush going spare for Christmas. When did I appoint you special advisor? |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by duro4chang(m): 3:44pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
Osariemen12: Good. Yorubas and Igbos can be one but let no man drag my Bini into Yoruba affairs. What has yoruba done for you? I was told yoruba and Edo are related and also united |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by UGBE634: 4:03pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
duro4chang: What has yoruba done for you? I was told yoruba and Edo are related and also united yoruba is more related to Igbo than it is to Bini or Edo |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by duro4chang(m): 4:06pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
UGBE634: yoruba is more related to Igbo than it is to Bini or Edo Give me more info about that. |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by UGBE634: 4:10pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
duro4chang: Give me more info about that. linguistically there are so many similarities in words between yoruba and Igbo that are not there in Edo |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by duro4chang(m): 4:16pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
UGBE634: linguistically there are so many similarities in words between yoruba and Igbo that are not there in Edo But yoruba and edo do not quarrel. They hadly insult each other. |
Re: Yorubas And Igbos Once Spoke The SAME Language - Evidence by AjaanaOka(m): 4:38pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
UGBE634: linguistically there are so many similarities in words between yoruba and Igbo that are not there in Edo Interesting take. Do you care to illustrate further on this, with examples? According to linguists, Edo and Yoruba are closer to each other than either of them is to Igbo. Lexical similarity between Yoruba and Edo is calculated to be 56%, and only 51% for Yoruba and Igbo. But I'll still like to know what informs your position. 1 Like |