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Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:52pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: You're misconstrueing the whole thing but you only need help! First of all i want you to know that the person Jesus' disciples saw ascending to heaven is not human but spirit so he made himself visible to them so they can be sure that he has risen from the dead and that he's returning to his former abode. That's why the Jewish community kept persecuting Jesus' disciples because they thought it was all a LIE. The whole people saw Jesus being killed but only his disciples saw him alive afterwards. So don't use the word "PEOPLE" when talking about eyewitnesses of his activities after his resurrection rather say "HIS DISCIPLES" know that if people (who aren't his disciples saw him after his resurrection) they will all believe him like Paul did! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:15pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: All your questions has just one answer! BORN AGAIN CHRISTIANS! Before Jesus' disciples were born of the spirit Jesus made them see so many things in order for them to BELIEVE him but after they became baptized of the spirit they don't need seeing all those things anymore. Today you and i already heard of all the things Jesus performed it's faithless people that supposed to be asking for such signs but Jesus said faithless people will never be given such opportunity! Matthew 16:4 So only Jesus' disciples who proved faithful were allowed to witness those signs as for the rest of the first century Jewish community they only heard from Jesus' disciples. That's why the 98% of Jews today don't believe in what you called the NEW TESTAMENT because to them it was written by first century Jews who were DELUSIONAL! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by sonmvayina(m): 2:20pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Point of correction.. Written by Greeks priest....of the Roman Catholic church.. |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:20pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: After the first set left the earth those who are still alive among the anointed brothers of Christ will not sleep as dead men awaiting resurrection anymore, they will be transformed immediately they die so that's what Paul is saying not that you will see people flying in the air! You've not answered my question: Where is the publication of JWs that specifically stated: The world will end in the year .........? |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 2:21pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:So who were those that saw the rapture and taking away of the saints to heaven in 1916 and 1914 respectively? Where is their documentation? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:21pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
Don't worry Mr Reincarnation, this has nothing to do with you or your Torah! sonmvayina: |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by sonmvayina(m): 2:23pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: So I should fold my arms and watch you deceive people ? Not when I am still alive.. |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 2:25pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Stop twisting the scriptures ogbeni, what u wrote is not what the scriptures recorded 1 Thes 4 Verse 17 “Then we who are alive, who are left, will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord.” What is in this scripture is different from the fabricated interpretation you have given it! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:27pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: Jesus was asked by his disciples who were at that time not born of the spirit: “Tell us, when will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” Matthew 24:3 Because when Jesus begin ruling in heaven nobody on earth will see him so what his disciples on earth need to know that he has begun ruling is what he told them! Matthew 24:4-14 Likewise nobody can SEE any of these things except the signs Jesus promised his disciples to watch out for which you people have ignored so how can you know when all these things are happening? |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 2:27pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Where did you learn such from? When did the disciples get born again? At what point did they stop seeing things? Where in the scriptures did you get your fabrication from? 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:29pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Who are your people? Well it's just between advocate and myself, and i don't think he is one of your students. So sit down and watch two professed believers in Jesus do this! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 2:32pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:And the conclusion of when the end will come was given in verse 14 of the same Matthew 24: “And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come” So had the gospel reached the whole world in 1914? How come only no one else knew about the rapture your organization claimed happened in 1916? I never knew that rapture was a hidden thing that only JW would be aware of 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:44pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: Well now you know that it's not a thing that concerns faithless people and moreover they would have gone with Jesus when he began ruling because it's for them that Jesus is sending Satan out of heaven. So immediately Satan is ousted their abode will be ready. Ọmọ you will wait till destruction comes upon you suddenly, Jesus has taken the dead in his form to heaven only a remnant who are yet to complete their earthly ministry remains with us now! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 2:53pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Who are the people that went? Don’t they have names ? Why are you holding on to the straw ? How come only Jw heard the so called rapture and the rest of the world didn’t hear it? That will be your fate for believing in fake doctrines and prohecies. Even Jesus said no one except God knew the time it will happen but you JW lied that it was in 1914 and 1916 How come all you JW are yet to complete your mission and you’re still here with the rest of the world that you don’t see as true believers? 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Ken4Christ: 3:00pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: Your submission is an understatement. The founder is an anti Christ. They are agents of darkness disguised as ministers of light. They do not only brainwash their members, they blind their eyes never to see the truth. Because of their teachings, the devil is claiming more souls to hell daily. 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 3:10pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:I know. I’m just starting from here. I’ll appreciate if you and others like Courz and the likes can join in exposing these people so that their evil plans to mislead multitudes can be destroyed Hmmm. May God have mercy and rescue the misguided and the lost souls! 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Aemmyjah(m): 3:39pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Lol You mind am Ask him again to mention who his people are? |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:37pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare:I have told you the names of those you can find in the Bible: Apostles As for the rest of the world you only need to ask how many people knew about the coming and going of the Christ even among the Jews in the first century not to talk of people living in other places back then? Remember that Jesus is the saviour of the whole world not only for the Israelites yet only 500 Jews witnessed about his departure on this planet {1Corinthians 15:6} so how do you expect the whole world to know about his presence when he comes to take away his spiritual brothers who are asleep in death? advocatejare:Of course no one knows but when the event Jesus foretold as SIGN of the time began unfolding we know! Matthew 24:3-14 advocatejare:Only the anointed among us are going to rule with our King in his government house (heaven) nah! We are of two folds: ©The anointed brothers of Christ known as the little flock! Matthew 25:40 compare to Luke 12:32 This group are the spiritual Jews spoken of by the prophets {Zechariah 8:23} they are numbered 144,000 {Revelations 14:1} Jesus promised to take them to heaven where houses awaits them {John 14:1-4} they are blessed! Matthew 5:3 ©The other sheep also known as the great crowd! John 10:16 compare to Revelations 7:14 Our group is made up of people from different races who are faithful globally, unlike the first group we will renovate the earth and build homes of our taste! Isaiah 65:21-23 Jesus promised us that we will inherit this planet {Matthew 5:5} and live forever on it! Psalms 37:29 So it's not all faithful people that's going to heaven! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:42pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: Ọmọ i told you not to start what you can't finish! I've been answering your questions even though you may disagree but you haven't quote any of our publications where it's stated that the world will end in either a specific day or year! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:49pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: I don't have his time let him go and gather his own students teaching them that the most important personality ever on this planet never lived! Meanwhile i want to teach this misinformed churchgoer what he doesn't know about true faith! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by sonmvayina(m): 5:38pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Two of you can't be right.. But, both of you can be wrong.. |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 5:47pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Wonderful! So the apostles went to heaven in 1914? Here is the 1 cor 15:6 that you quoted “Then he appeared to more than five hundred brothers at one time, most of whom are still alive, though some have fallen asleep” So applying the same to the fictitious 1914 heavenly journey and 1916 rapture, how many people of the world experienced it, how many of them are alive today? Who recorded the event? Or was it only JW governing body that is aware of the rapture? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 5:48pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: 1 Like
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Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:07pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
sonmvayina: Says REINCARNATION! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:16pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: It's pathetic that you don't know how important Jesus is yet only 500 Jews (who are all his disciples) that witnessed his departure. So only JWs knew not because they saw him physically lifting people into the air but what he told us regarding his presence is what we saw. John the baptist questioned Jesus' authenticity Jesus only told him to consider what happened that time to get the sense that the Christ is around. So even if John was confused what the prophecies regarding the things Israelites will notice during the time the Christ is around will serve as PROOF! Matthew 11:2-6 So it's the events happening on earth at that time that's evidence that the anointed have left the earth. You can't change what the Bible said even though you know all these but you just choose to follow the way of faithless people! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 6:30pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:You are just moving in cycles and evading the simple questions I’ve asked you! I’m asking again! Let me number them so that I can know the ones you are answering 1. How come no one else knew about the rapture your organization claimed happened in 1916? 2. Who were those that saw the rapture and taking away of the saints to heaven in 1916 and 1914 respectively? 3. Where is their documentation? 4. Who are the people that went? 5. Don’t they have names ? 6. How come only Jw heard the so called rapture and the rest of the world didn’t hear it? 7. Were those alive in 1914 caught up together in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:31pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
You have failed to quote a publication of JWs stating a specific day or year the world will end! This is what most gullible followers of faithless people do instead of studying the Bible to get the sense of the scriptures. God's people always anticipate the end of all badness just as you will see in the Bible but they will never ever tell you a certain date because they're only anticipating due to what they're seeing around them. John the baptist have heard from his parents how Jesus was born, Jesus came to get baptized, Holy Spirit descended on Jesus, God spoke from heaven yet John questioned if Jesus is the Christ or not! Matthew 11:3 WHY? The disciples walked with Jesus for over three years, he thought them so many things about the end of badness and made them understand that many things will happen first {Matthew 24:4-14} yet after his resurrection they asked him if he will hand over rulership of the earth to Israel despite all what Jesus taught them. WHY? Because God's people can't wait to see the end of all badness! So if modern day worshipers of God are also anticipating the end of badness note if they're giving any specific date as the end of the world. Thanks for your time! |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 6:33pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: 1. How come no one else knew about the rapture your organization claimed happened in 1916? 2. Who were those that saw the rapture and taking away of the saints to heaven in 1916 and 1914 respectively? 3. Where is their documentation? 4. Who are the people that went? 5. Don’t they have names ? 6. How come only Jw heard the so called rapture and the rest of the world didn’t hear it? 7. Were those alive in 1914 caught up together in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:36pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
advocatejare: You're the one running from pillar to post after seeing how what i told you is biblical but you can't grasp why worldly people couldn't know of all these sacred secrets! Jesus said when he's in power we will see many things happening and apostle Paul made us to understand that it's the dead in Christ that will go first while the rest will join them after their earthly mission. So can you now tell me the name of your own church? |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 6:39pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse:Answer my questions first and I’ll tell you the name of the church I attend, but you will have to open another thread for that because I won’t want you to derail this thread. Now these are my questions that you have refused to answer! 1 Like
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Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by Aemmyjah(m): 6:47pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: He has seen Max has led him into a tight corner Like a nasty child seeing he has embarrassed himself, instead of apologising and show respect. He cries to go and meet mummy |
Re: Jehovah Witnesses False Doctrines And Fake Prophecies? by advocatejare(m): 6:52pm On Dec 24, 2022 |
Aemmyjah: You that is not man enough to hold a discussion, you had to go and call MaxInDHouse your father to bail you out, even he himself has not been able to answer my question. Now that you’re back, let’s see if you came with some sense, you can attempt the question Max couldn’t answer now 1 Like
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