Aemmyjah:

He has seen Max has led him into a tight corner
Like a nasty child seeing he has embarrassed himself, instead of apologising and show respect. He cries to go and meet mummy

MaxInDHouse:


It's very easy to deal with faithless people, just direct them to the scriptures and ask them to present what they're demanding if it's so with faithful people in the past!

All he's trying to do now is save his face from shame now that it's obvious he knew nothing about faith in Jesus who only reveal sacred secrets to those close to him while those far from him will continue looking but can't see! Matthew 13:14

Let him point or present his own Jesus revealing sacred secrets to outsiders!

advocatejare:

Answer simple questions, some using style to evade them

MaxInDHouse:


You refer to sacred secrets as "SIMPLE" even though Jesus said it will be hidden from faithless people yet you can't just mention the name of your church?

Ọmọ all you need is humility because you will never ever get the sense of all these things with this arrogance. Jesus returned in 1914 and that's why you can see a global family of peace loving worshipers preaching zealously and industriously teaching about God's Kingdom throughout the entire inhabited earth now. That is the last SIGN that will run into the conclusion of this system of things! Matthew 24:14
As for the rest they've happened but faithless people like you never take note! Matthew 24:37-39
So you can continue arguing blindly with the Muslims over their religion, i have better things to do with my time and data! 1 Corinthians 9:26; Ephesians 5:15-16

May you have PEACE!

advocatejare:


You that is not man enough to hold a discussion, you had to go and call MaxInDHouse your father to bail you out, even he himself has not been able to answer my question.

Now that you’re back, let’s see if you came with some sense, you can attempt the question Max couldn’t answer now

Aemmyjah:


If you have sense
You'll allow him answer your questions

advocatejare:

If you have sense you will know that I’m not holding his brain from answering!

He’s just being mischievous like a typical JW member, quoting scriptures that don’t tally with the point of discussion and writing irrelevant long write up with the hope that he can derail the discussion with them!

Aemmyjah:


You that sabi scripture
What do you have to offer?

advocatejare:

If you have functional eyes you would have seen all the scriptures i fully quoted with references.

They tally with the what we are discussing unlike the falsehoods you guys are spreading all over the place.

advocatejare:

Why must you lie. Jesus declared in Matthew 24:27 that his coming will be visible to all

“ For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man”

Here is MaXInDHouse telling us that Christ’s second coming was in 1914.

See what brainwashing does to people!

Christ came in 1914? OMG

Aemmyjah:

Is that the answer to my question?
You wey sabi scripture, wetin u get to offer?

Aemmyjah:


Is that the answer to my question?
You wey sabi scripture, wetin u get to offer?

MaxInDHouse:
Oh you're still here on the issue?

Well let's see if what you quoted correlates with the interpretation you want to give it.

So if Jesus is coming from the sky the whole world will see him at the same time shey?

Perhaps you have forgotten that the earth is not flat neither are we all in the day due to the rotation of the earth. How will the whole earth see one man coming from the sky at the same time?
OK Jesus will come when Americans are in the day then go back and come again when it's day here shey?

MaxInDHouse:


They're so blind spiritual speaking!
When Jesus quoted Isaiah saying:

You will indeed hear but by no means get the sense of it, and you will indeed look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them.' “However, happy are your eyes because they see and your ears because they hear. For truly I say to you, many prophets and righteous men desired to see the things you are observing but did not see them, and to hear the things you are hearing but did not hear them. Matthew 13:14-18

Please note the highlighted in red!
What exactly were Jesus' disciples seeing or hearing (literally) that others standing there can't see or hear?

Well it's because the prophecies regarding the Christ's coming was deep and complex so only faithful people can get the sense of it.
For instance Malachi said Elijah will come first before Christ {Malachi 4:5} Elisha told the Israelites that Elijah went to heaven with flying horses so Israelites thought Elijah will return like that to introduce the Christ that's why Peter, James and John after seeing Moses and Elijah with Jesus during transfiguration asked Jesus:
“Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” Matthew 17:10
Jesus only explained n to them that John has fulfilled that prophecy! Matthew 17:11-13

Millions of Jews don't believe Jesus today because of these things, they're expecting a God prince that will be born in a spectacular way and like a professor whose office people will be going for counseling {Isaiah 9:6} so when Jesus' disciples told them the miracles surrounding the birth of Jesus they were asking the same question this faithless guy is asking today:
Who saw all these things? Where was it documented? How come only you people know that Elijah and Christ have both come? When did Elijah came that nobody saw him?

So my brother advocate is gradually getting the sense of what we are saying but his heart is sealed up due to all the bad things he was told about God's organization that's why he quoted Jesus' illustrative prophecy regarding his presence in power {Matthew 24:27} just as the Jews were expecting something great in sight {Matthew 11:7-9} faithless generation like advocate will continue looking but they will not SEE any of these things, even though the evidence is all around them.
Last week while at the cath witnessing a traditionalist walk up to me and asked politely:

"I can see that you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses"
i responded
"Yes Sir, do you need any of our magazines?"
He said "You people have been saying the world is going to end and my own father told me that you've been saying it for as long as he was a boy, today i CAN SEE that what you people are preaching is fulfilling gradually because the whole world is totally confused now. So can you Please! Please!! Please!!! tell me what's next because now i'm in my early 90s but i won't want to loose out completely after SEEING all what you people have been saying about your Jesus"

We concluded to visit him in his house to commence a Bible study but an elder in our congregation said instead we supposed to invite him to the Kingdom Hall so he can start HEARING WHAT WE ARE HEARING AND SEEING WHAT WE ARE SEEING! Matthew 13:16

So whenever i see those Satan has completely blinded with false religions {2Corinthians 4:4} like this guy i only feel pity for them because even though they know that Jehovah's Witnesses organization is unique the stubbornness in their hearts won't allow them to humble themselves for their own salvation! Zephaniah 2:2-3

advocatejare:

Which part of the world saw Jesus come in 1914?

MaxInDHouse:

Which part of the world missed or haven't WITNESSED the composite SIGN of Jesus' presence right from 1914?

Ọmọ you really need a Bible study with God's people.

1914 was WORLD WAR 1 so go back and read Matthew 24:4-14 but this time use Watchtower lense you will SEE!

MaxInDHouse:
Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

advocatejare:
.

MaxInDHouse:
Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

MaxInDHouse:

MaxInDHouse:


They're so blind spiritual speaking!
When Jesus quoted Isaiah saying:

You will indeed hear but by no means get the sense of it, and you will indeed look but by no means see. For the heart of this people has grown unreceptive, and with their ears they have heard without response, and they have shut their eyes, so that they might never see with their eyes and hear with their ears and get the sense of it with their hearts and turn back and I heal them.' “However, happy are your eyes because they see and your ears because they hear. For truly I say to you, many prophets and righteous men desired to see the things you are observing but did not see them, and to hear the things you are hearing but did not hear them. Matthew 13:14-18

Please note the highlighted in red!
What exactly were Jesus' disciples seeing or hearing (literally) that others standing there can't see or hear?

Well it's because the prophecies regarding the Christ's coming was deep and complex so only faithful people can get the sense of it.
For instance Malachi said Elijah will come first before Christ {Malachi 4:5} Elisha told the Israelites that Elijah went to heaven with flying horses so Israelites thought Elijah will return like that to introduce the Christ that's why Peter, James and John after seeing Moses and Elijah with Jesus during transfiguration asked Jesus:
“Why, then, do the scribes say that E·liʹjah must come first?” Matthew 17:10
Jesus only explained n to them that John has fulfilled that prophecy! Matthew 17:11-13

Millions of Jews don't believe Jesus today because of these things, they're expecting a God prince that will be born in a spectacular way and like a professor whose office people will be going for counseling {Isaiah 9:6} so when Jesus' disciples told them the miracles surrounding the birth of Jesus they were asking the same question this faithless guy is asking today:
Who saw all these things? Where was it documented? How come only you people know that Elijah and Christ have both come? When did Elijah came that nobody saw him?

So my brother advocate is gradually getting the sense of what we are saying but his heart is sealed up due to all the bad things he was told about God's organization that's why he quoted Jesus' illustrative prophecy regarding his presence in power {Matthew 24:27} just as the Jews were expecting something great in sight {Matthew 11:7-9} faithless generation like advocate will continue looking but they will not SEE any of these things, even though the evidence is all around them.
Last week while at the cath witnessing a traditionalist walk up to me and asked politely:

"I can see that you're one of Jehovah's Witnesses"
i responded
"Yes Sir, do you need any of our magazines?"
He said "You people have been saying the world is going to end and my own father told me that you've been saying it for as long as he was a boy, today i CAN SEE that what you people are preaching is fulfilling gradually because the whole world is totally confused now. So can you Please! Please!! Please!!! tell me what's next because now i'm in my early 90s but i won't want to loose out completely after SEEING all what you people have been saying about your Jesus"

We concluded to visit him in his house to commence a Bible study but an elder in our congregation said instead we supposed to invite him to the Kingdom Hall so he can start HEARING WHAT WE ARE HEARING AND SEEING WHAT WE ARE SEEING! Matthew 13:16

So whenever i see those Satan has completely blinded with false religions {2Corinthians 4:4} like this guy i only feel pity for them because even though they know that Jehovah's Witnesses organization is unique the stubbornness in their hearts won't allow them to humble themselves for their own salvation! Zephaniah 2:2-3

achorladey:
@ advocatejare those two called MaxInDHouse and Aemmyjah will always first call whatever you post as LIES, then DENY that their religious organization ever stated, preach or teach such a thing and then begin to insult you only for them to admit that what you indeed posted are the truth and that is now OLD or PAST TRUTH.

The following from their publications will push them to keep running from pillar to post....

9 Postponed expectations. We naturally long for the good things that Jehovah has promised. In fact, when Jehovah’s prophet Habakkuk expressed a yearning for Jehovah to bring an end to the wicked conditions in Judah, Jehovah instructed him to “keep in expectation.” (Hab. 2:3) However, when the fulfillment of our expectations appears to be delayed, it may dampen our enthusiasm. We could even lose heart. (Prov. 13:12) This happened at the beginning of the 20th century. At that time, many anointed Christians expected to receive their heavenly reward in 1914. When that did not happen, how did faithful ones deal with their delayed expectations?




Ask them what was the reward the anointed Christians were expecting in 1914?

When did Russell die?

Did he (Russell) receive this reward in 1914?

MaxInDHouse:

achorladey:


. It is for advocatejare

MaxInDHouse:


For all honest hearted and sincere individuals!

achorladey:
@ advocatejare those two called MaxInDHouse and Aemmyjah will always first call whatever you post as LIES, then DENY that their religious organization ever stated, preach or teach such a thing and then begin to insult you only for them to admit that what you indeed posted are the truth and that is now OLD or PAST TRUTH.

The following from their publications will push them to keep running from pillar to post....

9 Postponed expectations. We naturally long for the good things that Jehovah has promised. In fact, when Jehovah’s prophet Habakkuk expressed a yearning for Jehovah to bring an end to the wicked conditions in Judah, Jehovah instructed him to “keep in expectation.” (Hab. 2:3) However, when the fulfillment of our expectations appears to be delayed, it may dampen our enthusiasm. We could even lose heart. (Prov. 13:12) This happened at the beginning of the 20th century. At that time, many anointed Christians expected to receive their heavenly reward in 1914. When that did not happen, how did faithful ones deal with their delayed expectations?




Ask them what was the reward the anointed Christians were expecting in 1914?

When did Russell die?

Did he (Russell) receive this reward in 1914?

advocatejare:

Thank you for this write up, unfortunately MaxInDHouse feels that he knows more than Russel because according to MaxInDHouse there was no delayed expectation as his own Jesus actually came in 1914

achorladey:


Na so dem dey do. You will show them evidence from their own publications and they will still deny it or call it LIES.

Before 1914, many members of the faithful slave class had high hopes of meeting with the Bridegroom in heaven that year, but their hopes were not fulfilled. As a result of this and other developments, many were disappointed and a few became embittered. Some of these turned to ‘beating’ their former brothers verbally and consorting with “confirmed drunkards,” religious groups of Christendom.​—Isaiah 28:1-3; 32:6.

advocatejare:

Wow, that means MaxInDHouse is still attached to his former religion’s lying to deceive people about the religion (Taqiyya) by lying to us that Jesus returned in 1914

Thank you for shedding more light on JW deceptions

achorladey:


What made the whole thing interesting and funny was that.

The question I like to ask them is

Who promised that the anointed ones will get their reward in 1914?

I know they cannot support it from the Bible

MaxInDHouse:
Faith is not a possession of all people {2Thessalonians 3:2} so our kind will welcome our message!