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Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 5:09pm On Dec 25, 2022
BentizilL:

Wow Jesus wept... cry cheesy

Jesus shouldn't be use for fallacy,
Please kindly tell us when and who the USA invaded Libya, and Syria,..
Please and for emphasis sake please defined invaded"
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Gadafii: 3:11am On Dec 26, 2022
obedience4:


Did the USA invaded Syria, Liby?? grin
USA invaded countries sponsoring terrorism or harbouring terrorist.
I don't get your daft agurement?? You want USA to invaded Russia because Russia invaded Ukraine, when there is no legal binding for them to come to Ukraine aid,
Please this is common sense, Russian haven't killed Americans Russia haven't invaded America cities Russian haven't harbor terrorist that attack the USA and you want the USA to attack Russian because they invaded their neighbour, dose that makes senses to you.is that how they fight wars,
As long as Americans and it's allies dose that it has a treaty to defend are not attack by Russia then the America military has no business in Ukraine' war, apart from training and weapons
was the United state able to stop these countries from harboring “terrorists”

Imagine spending billions of dollars prosecuting war in Afghanistan for 20 years only to run away with your tail in between ur legs, leaving billion dollars of war crafts, guns and ammunition for the same terrorist they went after, shame

Libya was doing fine, the problem with the United States was that gaddafi wanted the end of petro dollar, especially in Africa so they found ways to remove him, presently Libya is a failed state, the United States armed the militia groups that ousted gaddafi, these militia groups are now raping and enslaving Africans, selling guns to terror groups across Africa, including boko haram and bandits, Libya is now training ground for isis in Africa

By the way, Ukraine was killing and oppressing ethnic Russians in the donbas region, what has the United state done about it before putin decided enough is enough


The United state is just a toothless dog, it can bark at smaller counties and intimidate then, the United state is battling guns related deaths, they have the highest number of domestic gun deaths in the world, thousands die every year in USA, they should fix that first before they try to fix other countries problems
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 7:14am On Dec 26, 2022
Gadafii:
was the United state able to stop these countries from harboring “terrorists”

Imagine spending billions of dollars prosecuting war in Afghanistan for 20 years only to run away with your tail in between ur legs, leaving billion dollars of war crafts, guns and ammunition for the same terrorist they went after, shame

Libya was doing fine, the problem with the United States was that gaddafi wanted the end of petro dollar, especially in Africa so they found ways to remove him, presently Libya is a failed state, the United States armed the militia groups that ousted gaddafi, these militia groups are now raping and enslaving Africans, selling guns to terror groups across Africa, including boko haram and bandits, Libya is now training ground for isis in Africa

By the way, Ukraine was killing and oppressing ethnic Russians in the donbas region, what has the United state done about it before putin decided enough is enough


The United state is just a toothless dog, it can bark at smaller counties and intimidate then, the United state is battling guns related deaths, they have the highest number of domestic gun deaths in the world, thousands die every year in USA, they should fix that first before they try to fix other countries problems

Arming rebels not the same as invading,
I know the USA instigated the whole scenario that got Gaddafi removed, but the USA never invaded Libya, nor Syria thats the point I want to pass
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:25am On Dec 26, 2022
Now the Comedian must demand quick supply of electricity from USA and it's European allies as he is zealously fighting their war against Powerfull Russia by destroying his own land and killing his own people for USA and evil nato.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Gadafii: 8:15am On Dec 26, 2022
obedience4:


Arming rebels not the same as invading,
I know the USA instigated the whole scenario that got Gaddafi removed, but the USA never invaded Libya, nor Syria thats the point I want to pass
you don’t know anything, arming rebels to fight the govt is fighting the government by proxy, and at great lengths invading that country, are you a kid or what

You are not making any sense, US presently have bases in Syria, THEY have their fighter jets in Syria as well, they had in Libya as well same as other countries they went to, if you watch the movie “secret soldiers of Benghazi “ you will understand what I Am saying

No one knew the United States or the CIA had secret bases and Private contractors in Libya, until the US high commission was attacked and the commissioner died from that attack


Stop saying what you don’t know

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Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 9:06am On Dec 26, 2022
Gadafii:
you don’t know anything, arming rebels to fight the govt is fighting the government by proxy, and at great lengths invading that country, are you a kid or what

You are not making any sense, US presently have bases in Syria, THEY have their fighter jets in Syria as well, they had in Libya as well same as other countries they went to, if you watch the movie “secret soldiers of Benghazi “ you will understand what I Am saying

No one knew the United States or the CIA had secret bases and Private contractors in Libya, until the US high commission was attacked and the commissioner died from that attack


Stop saying what you don’t know

Please stop saying what you don't know, I am well vast in the Libya incident, the secret soldiers of Benghazi " you are talking are USA Marines stationed at the USA consul in Libya, standard procedures for USA embassy worldwide.
Pleas the USA never had an airbase in Libya, watching the incident on the attack on the consult in Benghazi they had to wait for reenforcement from the only USA military base in Africa located in Djibouti. The USA had no fighter jets in Libya, although they have conducted airstrikes in Libya.

Please the USA military presences in Syria is against Isis not Assad, the USA military was training the Kurdish fighters against Isis and not government forces..
The only time the USA military conducted airstrikes against Assad was when he used nerve gas against its citizens and that was only in Obama government,

The USA have nothing to gain in a military operation in Syria, you claim the USA is a toothless dog but by your definition of invasion the USA giving weapon's to Ukraine is invading Russia,
In conclusion the USA never had base in Syria, thy never had a Base in Libya, please arming a side is not the same as invading.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Nobody: 9:11am On Dec 26, 2022
NATO is an evil military alliance created to destroy any country going against the western doctrine. There is nothing defensive about NATO.
Wagwanbrethren:

Ukraine is not a member of NATO, so NATO can not intervene directly in Ukraine, but they are helping with training, weapons, and ammunition.

But NATO is stepping up in neighboring NATO countries and, if Russia was to target any NATO country, NATO response would be immediate and strong, as all NATO countries would unite according to Article V and fight back at Russia.
NATO is a defensive alliance. 30 NATO members will respond if a NATO member is attacked.

Ukraine is not a member of NATO. NATO countries are where NATO countries have always been. And what do you mean by confront? Russia has not attacked NATO and won't attack NATO unless they decide to become suicidal.

What part of Ukraine is not a member of NATO do you fail to grasp? NATO isn't some weird anti-Russia coalition. NATO is a defensive military Alliance that provides collective security to its members.

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Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Nobody: 9:24am On Dec 26, 2022
I just keep SMH when I read rubbish like this. They openly funded, trained and equipped fighters against a sovereign government. They even went further to send fighter jets to bomb Libya to smothering, killing thousands of civilians in the process and thereby aiding the cold blooded murder of a president. Nothing justifies all of these. US has effectively destroyed that nation all in the name of democracy.

Syria is another case. You actively funded, supported and equipped rebels and extremist militants all in a bid to overthrow the president of a sovereign country who has not done anything wrong to the USA. Unfortunately for the American idiots, the extremists they supplied with weapons formed ISIS and invaded Iraq to remove an American installed government. US had to beg their arch enemy, Iran and the Kurds to help them fight ISIS in Iraq. Karma is a biatch, because Iran now has control over Iraq and the rebels are losing in Syria.

Yemen is another case. I won't even talk about Iraq yet.

obedience4:


Did the USA invaded Syria, Liby?? grin
USA invaded countries sponsoring terrorism or harbouring terrorist.
I don't get your daft agurement?? You want USA to invaded Russia because Russia invaded Ukraine, when there is no legal binding for them to come to Ukraine aid,
Please this is common sense, Russian haven't killed Americans Russia haven't invaded America cities Russian haven't harbor terrorist that attack the USA and you want the USA to attack Russian because they invaded their neighbour, dose that makes senses to you.is that how they fight wars,
As long as Americans and it's allies dose that it has a treaty to defend are not attack by Russia then the America military has no business in Ukraine' war, apart from training and weapons
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 9:48am On Dec 26, 2022
USA put military base in Syria and that guy said USA sis not invade Syria lol.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by bassdow: 2:02pm On Dec 26, 2022
richeeyo:
Those two fools above don't really know anything about the origin of this issues, and you don't throw punch till you been hit, why did you fools above think Russia quickly denied striking a NATO country Poland,


...but it was USA president, Biden who less than few seconds after the strike, even without Investigation started, said it wasn't Russia.

and finally after investigations were carried out, they still said it wasn't Russia.

Are you trying to tell us they were wrong ?

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Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by bassdow: 2:08pm On Dec 26, 2022
BentizilL:

The only fool here is you...
Is Russia the one convincing G20 delegate minutes after the strike??
Maybe Putin was Biden that was trying to save face because he was afraid of Russia??
It's that day I knew Biden madness get limit, Baba was busy convincing G20 delegates... cheesy

What happen to the initial gragra by polish prime minister and the Baltics?? Biden quickly calm them down and explain to them the consequence of involving in a conflict with Russia... tongue

that was really funny. President Biden ought to have at least delayed till after investigations to say his TRUTH.

People have failed to realize except given a very strong REASON, Russia wouldn't want to engage USA, and USA wouldn't want to engage Russia.

Though should both come Face2face, na nuclear dem go use. remove NATO, I doubt the WEST is any capable of anything. Even with NATO + EU sef, they still finds it difficult engaging Russia. That tells a lot

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Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 2:12pm On Dec 26, 2022
bassdow:



...but it was USA president, Biden who less than few seconds after the strike, even without Investigation started, said it wasn't Russia.

and finally after investigations were carried out, they still said it wasn't Russia.

Are you trying to tell us they were wrong ?

Almighty sick Biden became the spoke man for Russia even defending Russia that it was not putin lol fear make him piss for pant.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by caye(m): 3:28pm On Dec 26, 2022
obedience4:


One question, did the USA invade Syria or Libya??
The USA only supported rebels in Libya and the Kurdish fighters against Isis in Syria,
Same way the USA is supporting Ukraine.
Please be Smart stop writing rubbish


The USA is daily stealing thousands of barrels of oil from Syria oilfields.

Let that sink in.

And they are not doing it on behalf of the American people.

Seems it is for "private corporations".
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:55pm On Dec 26, 2022
caye:



The USA is daily stealing thousands of barrels of oil from Syria oilfields.

Let that sink in.

And they are not doing it on behalf of the American people.

Seems it is for "private corporations".
.

Exactly.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by richeeyo(m): 4:16pm On Dec 26, 2022
bassdow:



...but it was USA president, Biden who less than few seconds after the strike, even without Investigation started, said it wasn't Russia.

and finally after investigations were carried out, they still said it wasn't Russia.

Are you trying to tell us they were wrong ?
Because pentagon would have told him rigth away
, but the missile it self was still been physically examined
Plus that particular night if you could remember lots of Missile were flying, that means American airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) planes in near by Nato state would have been in the air to mark coordinatines
The data would still be needed to be studied in corresponding with the time to prove to others
But yanks knows it,
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 5:16pm On Dec 26, 2022
caye:



The USA is daily stealing thousands of barrels of oil from Syria oilfields.

Let that sink in.

And they are not doing it on behalf of the American people.

Seems it is for "private corporations".

Show me proof
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 5:23pm On Dec 26, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
USA put military base in Syria and that guy said USA sis not invade Syria lol.


So a military base is now a perquisite for invading a country, the USA have an airbase in Africa in Djibouti, been use to target terrorist in Africa, so the USA have invaded Djibouti??
Like I said the USA never invaded Syria, the military base Al-Tanf was used to train the new Syria army rebels against [b]the Islamic state[\b] not government forces, let's be educative here on nairaland,
The USA operates and maintains military facilities around the globe.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 5:39pm On Dec 26, 2022
bassdow:



...but it was USA president, Biden who less than few seconds after the strike, even without Investigation started, said it wasn't Russia.

and finally after investigations were carried out, they still said it wasn't Russia.

Are you trying to tell us they were wrong ?

You don't have to lie to prove a point.
When the missile struck Poland, the Russian foreign ministry spokeswomen. Maria zakharova was the first to debunk that the missile was from Russian.
What president biden said was that from the preliminary findings and the trajectory the rocket landed it was from Ukraine, and ask that's the full investigation been carried out,
Even the Russians came to applauded the way the USA handled the situations.

You don't have to lie, not all people here on nairaland are stupid.

https://english.jagran.com/world/russia-praises-us-for-measured-response-on-missile-attack-accuses-poland-of-deliberately-escalating-tensions-10054483

Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 5:45pm On Dec 26, 2022
obedience4:



So a military base is now a perquisite for invading a country, the USA have an airbase in Africa in Djibouti, been use to target terrorist in Africa, so the USA have invaded Djibouti??
Like I said the USA never invaded Syria, the military base Al-Tanf was used to train the new Syria army rebels against [b]the Islamic state[\b] not government forces, let's be educative here on nairaland,
The USA operates and maintains military facilities around the globe.
so I come to your house open a military base and tell you that I open military base all over the world with the excuse you give and you clap for me right
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 5:51pm On Dec 26, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
so I come to your house open a military base and tell you that I open military base all over the world with the excuse you give and you clap for me right



The place the USA had the base was held by the Syrian opposition, not in territories held by government forces loyal to hasad, the Iranian had a Base in Syria, so was the Turkish military too, even Russia also had an airbase in Syria,
It wasn't The USA that operated a military facility in Syria, every one from Russia, Turkey, Iran USA were all supporting there interest in Syria
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 7:04pm On Dec 26, 2022
obedience4:




The place the USA had the base was held by the Syrian opposition, not in territories held by government forces loyal to hasad, the Iranian had a Base in Syria, so was the Turkish military too, even Russia also had an airbase in Syria,
It wasn't The USA that operated a military facility in Syria, every one from Russia, Turkey, Iran USA were all supporting there interest in Syria

You still fail to acknowledge the truth which is USA invaded Syria and Russia came to stop them there and they hid in the opposition area once Russia builds Syria defense you will hear from Syria.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 9:48pm On Dec 26, 2022
Kingsnairaland:


You still fail to acknowledge the truth which is USA invaded Syria and Russia came to stop them there and they hid in the opposition area once Russia builds Syria defense you will hear from Syria.


So What about Turkey airbase, Turkey also invaded Syria??
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:33am On Dec 27, 2022
obedience4:



So What about Turkey airbase, Turkey also invaded Syria??
regional country have a stake than a nation far away from you

Check Google map what business has USA in Middle East lol

Have you seen Russia go to South America to make war

This is why people who think properly know USA is a war monger nation.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 8:03am On Dec 27, 2022
Kingsnairaland:
regional country have a stake than a nation far away from you

Check Google map what business has USA in Middle East lol

Have you seen Russia go to South America to make war

This is why people who think properly know USA is a war monger nation.

Your point is that as long as you are from a certain region or continent that's gives you a moral standing to invade another nation.
Hmmm, I have seen you complain abut the USA involvement in Cuba which with your point isn't q bad thing because they are from the same region.
In general your point is that Nigeria can walk up one day and invade Ghana because they are from the same region.
The same Russia who left Europe and is involved in Syria, Russia whose mercenaries are in far away Africa
Committing havoc, this is a pure example of kettle calling a pot black
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 8:39am On Dec 27, 2022
obedience4:


Your point is that as long as you are from a certain region or continent that's gives you a moral standing to invade another nation.
Hmmm, I have seen you complain abut the USA involvement in Cuba which with your point isn't q bad thing because they are from the same region.
In general your point is that Nigeria can walk up one day and invade Ghana because they are from the same region.
The same Russia who left Europe and is involved in Syria, Russia whose mercenaries are in far away Africa
Committing havoc, this is a pure example of kettle calling a pot black

Now research on how Syria called Russia and Iran to come help them

No one called USA into Syria their thirst for blood and death and world police called themselves lol

Now turkey is asking Russia in Syria to beg Syria to give them permission to enter to to wipe some group that they don't want that is how to do not coming without permission like evil nato does

That why the world is tired of them and many people are praying secretly for them to go down

If your in USA now is the time to invest in military industrial complex to make money
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Nobody: 9:09am On Dec 27, 2022
Anywhere you open a military base without the permission of the government, it is an invasion. Period!
obedience4:




The place the USA had the base was held by the Syrian opposition, not in territories held by government forces loyal to hasad, the Iranian had a Base in Syria, so was the Turkish military too, even Russia also had an airbase in Syria,
It wasn't The USA that operated a military facility in Syria, every one from Russia, Turkey, Iran USA were all supporting there interest in Syria

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Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Nobody: 9:11am On Dec 27, 2022
Iran and Russia are in Syria with the invitation of the Syrian government. USA and Turkey are there as invaders and enemy of the Syrian govt. Did the Libyan govt invite US to build military base there?
obedience4:


Your point is that as long as you are from a certain region or continent that's gives you a moral standing to invade another nation.
Hmmm, I have seen you complain abut the USA involvement in Cuba which with your point isn't q bad thing because they are from the same region.
In general your point is that Nigeria can walk up one day and invade Ghana because they are from the same region.
The same Russia who left Europe and is involved in Syria, Russia whose mercenaries are in far away Africa
Committing havoc, this is a pure example of kettle calling a pot black

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Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 9:14am On Dec 27, 2022
atmy1:
Anywhere you open a military base without the permission of the government, it is an invasion. Period!


The area the base was located was held by Syria opposition.
The area wasn't controlled by the Syria government.
Your point is invalid

Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 9:16am On Dec 27, 2022
atmy1:
Iran and Russia are in Syria with the invitation of the Syrian government. USA and Turkey are there as invaders and enemy of the Syrian govt. Did the Libyan govt invite US to build military base there?
Ll0
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by obedience4(m): 9:18am On Dec 27, 2022
atmy1:
Iran and Russia are in Syria with the invitation of the Syrian government. USA and Turkey are there as invaders and enemy of the Syrian govt. Did the Libyan govt invite US to build military base there?


USA had no base in Libya
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Kingsnairaland(m): 3:56am On Dec 28, 2022
obedience4:



USA had no base in Libya
war monger nation lol.
Re: Ukraine Hardest Thing To See Is Not How Our Soldiers Die, But How They Cry by Nobody: 9:35am On Dec 28, 2022
Okay, so Russia can sponsor a bunch of guys in texas who announce their own part of the Texas desert is not part of the US and then Russia immediately has the right to build a military base there. Think about your statements carefully before posting.
obedience4:



The area the base was located was held by Syria opposition.
The area wasn't controlled by the Syria government.
Your point is invalid

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