MaxInDHouse:


God only created Adam and Eve so there's no need arguing over polygamy or polyandry if anyone chooses to marry more than one wife or more than one husband let them continue it's a free world!

MaxInDHouse:
God only created Adam and Eve so there's no need arguing over polygamy or polyandry if anyone chooses to marry more than one wife or more than one husband let them continue it's a free world!

Dtruthspeaker:


You are making a case of "because the violators are many therefore the violation is lawful".

God's Laws do not change because the offenders are many rather He even Commanded "Thou shalt not follow the multitude to do evil: Exodus 23:2

So trace the origin of this crime , you would see that it starts with Lamech, the grandson of the first murderer, who wanted to make his own world record and therefore did more evill (killed 11 people) and added 2 wives to his list of crimes. Genesis 4:19/23

So now instead of following God, people are following Lamech which is a way to destruction.

AntiChristian:
How do you interpret the above and thou shall not commit adultery? Is it a contradiction from God?

AntiChristian:
I don't even understand your diction. Muhammad didn't marry up to 11 wives!

AntiChristian:
No one says you must love all your wives equally! Where in your scripture do you find love your wife equally to David, Solomon, Abraham, Lamech, etc

AntiChristian:
I don't know why you guys leave your Bible and are being hyped up by you selfish desires!

AntiChristian:

Why did Jehovah gave laws to protect first wife after marriage to the second instead of forbidding plural marriage entirely? I'm tired of all this God created Adam and Eve argument! Should God have created Adam with thousands of wives and state all the names in Genesis?

NNTR:
So far there's a joint or collective adult mutual consent and no evil or danger to child, animal or environment is done

Also you omitted, closer home, the Irigwe people of Northern Nigeria, who are known to be familiar with polyandry

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Dtruthspeaker:


You obviously are a stark raving mad man else you would have seen that Genesis 4:1-14 is just simply reporting an incident between 3 People. And it goes on to show that other people male and female were there, so you are taking complete madness which is grounded by your madness of insulting a person. (I suspect you are still antichristian hiding under this moniker. Same type of madness and insult and absence of ordinary understanding because of the mad blindness of being a devil)

NNTR:
I am not on this thread to be drawn into adultery

Mohamed married equal to, or greater than 11 eleven wives.
Some sources say, he married between 11 to 19 wives, hence the reason for using the mathematical ≥11 - 19 expression.

1. Does Allah love you? Yes or No?
2. Do Allah love you more or loves you less, than the next human being passing?
3. Who are you copying? Who are you emulating? Who is your model? Your standard?
4. Do you love your fellow human beings, just as I suppose, like Allah too loves all human beings?

I am giving you another chance to kindly give a honest answer to the question below:
Are you capable of doing justice and dealing with each of your wives equally?
(i.e. show and give each one of your wives equal measure of justice, love affection, care, support, attention et cetera)

MaxInDHouse:


Never mind jàre, let anybody marry the number of men or women they wish as long as their religion permits!

AntiChristian:

Watchtower declaration favors one man one wife right?
But no proof against polygamy!

AntiChristian:
Yeah you are on to divert the thread away from the topic!

AntiChristian:
Another diversion!

AntiChristian:
More diversion from the thread!

AntiChristian:
This is unrelated to the topic! Who set all this criteria for you in the Bible?
Isn't the topic about Bible and polygamy again?

MiddleDimension:

I wrote that post to debunk the myth that the bible passage ''in the beginning, he made them male and female'' does not mean it was one man and one woman he created at the beginning....

MiddleDimension:

why do you want to coninue to insist that the ''male and female'' he talked about, was referring to a single adam and a single eve from which you get your idea that polygamy is not Christian?

MiddleDimension:

In here, you associated polygamy with crime. Do you know how that sounds to offsprings o polygamy?
you know an insult that is to thr holy marrital institution called polygamy and the people in thr institution?

Dtruthspeaker:


I did understand your counter but your counter did not stand because Christ made this statement as The Law of marriage when specifically asked about marriage.

Secondly, you were using another contentious issue to rebut my answer which is an invalid rebuttal most especially as your position is even the wrong one. For Adam and Eve where alone until Genesis 4, where we see that they had lots and lots of children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren and 200 years is more than enough to have children and great-grandchildren and great great grand children, enough to fill villages and towns, not to talk of 500 years.

NNTR:
You introduced adultery and tried to embroiled me into commenting on adultery,

The point made there is that though Mohammed allegedly married up to between 11 to 19 wives, he didnt do so based on sexual pleasure grounds, unlike you who is admitted to be keen on polygamy because you dont want to commit fornication. Smh

From the questions, you clearly can see, how and what it means, to love equally.

Oh oh. It is related to the topic.
Of course, the topic is about Bible and polygamy, but doesnt the Quran piggybacks on the Bible.?

This about doing equal justice to all the married wives, and if you know you arent able to, then, marry just one wife, actually is from the Quran (i.e. your Holy Book).

The criteria is set in the Quran. Guess your Imam hasn't brought it your attention yet

Never mind. It is, what it is. Its my festive gift to you

AntiChristian:
Please if you're not ready to discuss on the topic you can skip my mentions!

AntiChristian:
Some Christians are Galatians 3:1 personified, high on thread diversion and writing off point!

NNTR:
You can run as far as you want to, but you'll never hide, as not kindly giving a honest answer to the polygamy question below, will forever haunt you:

1. Are you capable of doing justice and dealing with each of your wives equally?
(i.e. show and give each one of your wives equal measure of justice, love affection, care, support, attention et cetera)

I'll leave Christians and Galatians to contend with you on that verse.

NNTR:
Of course, the topic is about Bible and polygamy, but doesnt the Quran piggybacks on the Bible.?

This about doing equal justice to all the married wives, and if you know you arent able to, then, marry just one wife, actually is from the Quran (i.e. your Holy Book).

The criteria is set in the Quran. Guess your Imam hasn't brought it your attention yet

Never mind. It is, what it is. Its my festive gift to you

_{Personal text: Jesus is not a theologian. He is God who told stories.}

Dtruthspeaker:


You obviously are a stark raving mad man else you would have seen that Genesis 4:1-14 is just simply reporting an incident between 3 People. And it goes on to show that other people male and female were there, so you are taking complete madness which is grounded by your madness of insulting a person. (I suspect you are still antichristian hiding under this moniker. Same type of madness and insult and absence of ordinary understanding because of the mad blindness of being a devil)

MiddleDimension:
...You need to stop your self-deception already!
The ''other people'' the bible talked about, were not ''there'' like you said. They were elsewhere hence, he would have to perambulate around to run into them.

Notice how the bible reports what Cain said and you will realize that the ''other people'' he said will kill him when they find him, are not people with whom he is acquainted, not even in the slightest way; they are an entirely DIFFERENT people!...

MiddleDimension:
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Remember, he is being sent off the land he is familiar with; the same land he probably was born on and had his up bringing.

And then god is sending him away from that land. If the sending away is going to be a punnishement, then it is definitely going to be a land he is unfamiliar with,..

Dtruthspeaker:


Examine yourself and see if you are not the deceiver.

You said"...up until genesis chapter 4 vs 14, there were supposedly only 4 people in the world."

Now you admit that there were "other people. who were elsewhere".

Are now not the deceiver?

The Law is he who alleges must prove. So when you accuse our beliefs you must be ensure that you sucesfully and reasonably prove your accusations. You just don't go.accusing a person or a doctrine simply because you do not like it.

MiddleDimension:


Again, I am responding to you for the benefit of other people and also of you yourself when you decide to stop being hell-bent on defending a belief that is just plain lies, and start being concerned about what's true!

MiddleDimension:
The whole idea that jesus was limiting the number of wives one can marry to only one with that verse ''in the begining, there was only man and woman...and the two become one'' is just plain wrong!

It is wrong because it implies that Jesus was ignorant of the truth that in the beginning, there were not just only one man and one woman. This is very clear in the bible when Cain said: ''when ANYONE sees him, they will kill him''...

MiddleDimension:

Your likes, before I pointed it out to you, have always believed the genesis story is literally the correct version of the origin of man, and so believe that Adam and Eve were the first and only two people god created. This is where your belief that a man should have only one wife comes from.

MiddleDimension:

Now, since I have ESTABLISHED that the relationship between the man and the woman is always likened to the relationship between jesus and the individual christian, it is now obvious how ''the two shall become one'' is not violated by polygamy.

When you, Dtruthspeaker, accepted to ne married to jesus and he became your husband while you became his wife, another person could also accept the same jesus and when he does so, jesus becomes that person's husband WHOLE AND ENTIRE, even as he still remains your husband WHOLE AND ENTIRE!...

LocalStandard1:

The last time I said I respect someone here he twisted the narrative to make it sound like I said an abominable. But Still, I respect you too for your consistency on God's issues.

But let us not misquote the words of God to fit our new found believes or fear. You never gave me any proves where God rejected polygamy. Polygamy used to be a norm in the old days but the fact you have no prove, no verse to dispute and discredit the practice from the Bible says it is not an abomination in the eyes of God.

God and Messangers talked about even the most little ills of people but polygamy as widespread as it is does have one verse condemning it?
"Male and Female he created them" has nothing to do with polygamous marriage.

MiddleDimension:
You bible always liken man and woman marriage relationship to the relationship between god and israel; christ, the groom, and the church, his bride. He also likens the relationship between god or christ and the individual born again. Your bible reports that your god told Hosea to go and marry a woman, and their marriage relationship is going to be a reflection of the relationship between god and israel. The book of the song of Solomon is included in the canon of the scriptures despite it having what could be described as pornography, simply because the man and woman singing love songs to one another, can be regarded as god and Israel, christ and his church, or christ and the individual christian. Paul is another person who likens the relationship between a man and his wife to that between god and the individual christian. He said ''just as christ is the head of his church, so too is the man the head of the woman''.

Now, since I have ESTABLISHED that the relationship between the man and the woman is always likened to the relationship between jesus and the individual christian, it is now obvious how ''the two shall become one'' is not violated by polygamy.

When you, Dtruthspeaker, accepted to ne married to jesus and he became your husband while you became his wife, another person could also accept the same jesus and when he does so, jesus becomes that person's husband WHOLE AND ENTIRE, even as he still remains your husband WHOLE AND ENTIRE! The two of you, jesus and you, became ONE when you accepted him as your lord and saviour just as he becomes ONE with your brother in the lord when he accepted the christian faith. This is all in line with the teachings of the bible when it said: ''whoever is united with the lord, is one in spirit with him''. 1 Cor 6:17 and similar passages.

@joagbaje @donnie what do you think about this?

vdestro:


The Law of one man, one wife is for man and applies to man.

It can not and does not apply to man's Maker/Law Giver and Lord whom Jesus is to us.

Dtruthspeaker:


So now you see you are wrong about "genesis chapter 4 vs 14, there were supposedly only 4 people in the world.".

Ok so now i return to the main issue of the thread.



First, He Said, male and female and not one man and one woman.

Secondly, is there any other class of human being beyond being male or female that forms part of the "ANYONE" that Christ did not take cognisance of existing at that time? Eh?

See, bad thinking, bad product.



Wrong! This is you imposing a belief you think is my belief. And clearly if you contend the origin of man as recorded by the bible, there isn't any way your assessment will not be corrupted by your disagreement which is already showing.

So.you already have issues. But below is the crux of your argument. And a good one
But i was waiting for someone to go there.



And this is where if your mind was not corrupt you would have seen why this marriage is not wrong.

Why?

Because of the absence of sin and wrongs, both present and future.

None of the parties to that marriage is complaining nor shall be complaining nor shall ever complain.

When you Look at the rights of all the parties to tbat marriage, not one of them is violated or violatable.

Thus, this marriage is exactly like the one people already do when they marry to do business aka Ltd, GtE and unlimited companies and partnerships as registered in Corporate Affairs Commission.(CAC).

But, there isnt any wife, with her full senses and will, who will ever permit you to marry another woman exactly how you will never permit her to marry another man. The Law of do unto others what you want done unto thee.

vdestro:


The Law of one man, one wife is for man and applies to man.

It can not and does not apply to man's Maker/Law Giver and Lord whom Jesus is to us.

LocalStandard1:

The last time I said I respect someone here he twisted the narrative to make it sound like I said an abominable. But Still, I respect you too for your consistency on God's issues.

But let us not misquote the words of God to fit our new found believes or fear. You never gave me any proves where God rejected polygamy. Polygamy used to be a norm in the old days but the fact you have no prove, no verse to dispute and discredit the practice from the Bible says it is not an abomination in the eyes of God.

God and Messangers talked about even the most little ills of people but polygamy as widespread as it is does have one verse condemning it?
"Male and Female he created them" has nothing to do with polygamous marriage.

MiddleDimension:


says you even though your bible disagrees.
shior!

MiddleDimension:


Mtchew

Dtruthspeaker:


See! Failure again cannot answer. Thought you found a reasonable ground and cover to hiderun your sins of greedy filthy liusts!