Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Sammy07: 7:34am On Mar 05, 2020 |
AreaFada2: On video visiting Oba Ewuare II in Benin, Oba Akiolu actually mentioned Ado being from Benin. Late Oba Oyekan said same.
A Lagos prince told me something similar decades back. Seems to corroborate oral and written history. Though I have not heard the Awori part from Oba Akiolu say it.
Fact we know what Oba Akiolu believes. It doesn't sit well with the Yoruba narrative and they do not hide their hate.
I will seek to know the Awori part. Koro, Odibo and Eletu have long been established as following Ado from Benin.
Kosoko was the last true vassal Eleko of Oba of Benin Only the LAGOS ISLAND |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by AreaFada2: 8:14am On Mar 05, 2020 |
Sammy07:
Only the LAGOS ISLAND Idejo own the land, right? Ok wherever you see Oba of Lagos written go and add .. .. Island. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png) Oba Akiolu is Oba of Lagos. Way above the other chiefs recently elevated. Chai, because his Benin origin is fairly recent and officially well documented, the efforts are now to diminish his status. Funny set of people. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Sammy07: 8:37am On Mar 05, 2020 |
AreaFada2:
Idejo own the land, right?
Ok wherever you see Oba of Lagos written go and add .. .. Island. ![cheesy](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/cheesy.png)
Oba Akiolu is Oba of Lagos. Way above the other chiefs recently elevated.
Chai, because his Benin origin is fairly recent and officially well documented, the efforts are now to diminish his status. Funny set of people. Well, I believe you're well learned. When they say Oba of Lagos. Which area are they talking about?? BTW, I'm not diminishing his status Because he's a first class Oba and he's probably the head of those Oba in Lag. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by RedboneSmith(m): 10:42am On Mar 05, 2020 |
The kind of inferences we draw from history are not just absurd, but potentially dangerous. Saying that Lagos belongs to Benin because the Lagos ruling family has Edo descent is just as absurd as saying that Spain belongs to France because the dynasty ruling in Spain today is of French descent. You loan a king to another country and all of a sudden the country belongs to you? ![grin](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/grin.png) Even though the ruling family has long since shed all traces of foreignness and has become thoroughly native. ![undecided](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/undecided.png) 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by jades5050(m): 11:36pm On Mar 05, 2020 |
youngbabaj: The Oba of Lagos, His Royal Highness, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, has at long last told the world by means of a recorded account and foundation the genuine proprietors of Nigeria's financial capital city of Lagos and parts of neigbouring Benin Republic. Lagos, he stated, has a place with the Great Benin Kingdom and has never been a piece of Yoruba land. This was contained in an announcement gave and marked by the Lagos Monarch which was discharged from his royal residence.
The announcement peruses:
"Originating from the royal residence, with what I was told by my late fatherly grandma who is a relative of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi and furthermore perusing from real Historical books, let me share this Knowledge with all of you on Eko/Lagos. "Cutting edge Lagos was established by Prince Ado, the child of the Oba of Benin, Ruler Ado was the first Oba of Lagos, the child of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese pioneer Ruy de Sequeira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which around then from 1942 was Portuguese undertaking place down the African Coast. "It was a significant focus of the slave exchange until 1851. Lagos was attached by Britain by means of the Lagos arrangement of cession in 1861, finishing the consular period and beginning the British Colonial Period.
The rest of cutting edge Nigeria was seized in 1886 when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria were built up in 1914 Lagos was announced its capital because of the battle of the Bini King. "Lagos experienced development preceding the British Colonial standard and significantly progressively fast development during the Colonial principle all through the 1960s, 70s, proceeded through the 80s and 90s till date. On account of the Awori's, Bini's, Yoruba's, vagrants the country over and the world everywhere, as no specific gathering of individuals can take the greatness alone. "Lagos is comprised of Lagoons and rivers. The Lagos tidal pond, Lagos Harbor, five cone springs, Ebute-Metta rivers, Porto-Novo brooks, New trench, Badagry rivulets, Kuramo waters and Lighthouse streams. "The Awori's and Bini's are known to be the primary pioneers of the Eko land. The Awori's are speakers of a particular tongue near that of the Yoruba language with a rich Bini blend. Generally, Awori"s were found in Ile-Ife, they were known to be simply the Bini's who followed their banished Prince, the principal child of the Ogiso (presently called Oba) of the Benin Kingdom, whose progression mother was after his head. "The ousted Benin Prince Izoduwa referred to the Yorubas as Ooduwa (Oduduwa) was made the leader of the Ife individuals because of his forces and devotees from the Great Benin-Kingdom.
"Izoduwa (Ooduwa) was made the principal King of Ile-Ife in 1230 AD. His devotees from his dad's Kingdom in Benin are the present Awori individuals who settled in Eko now called Lagos. "In 1300, the King of Benin-Empire got notification from one of his brokers who was a pilgrim in Eko on how the Bini's were treated by the Awori's who lived in their general vicinity. After hearing this, the King of Benin directed the amassing of a war campaign, drove by his child, Prince Ado, which headed the settlement of the Awori's and requested a clarification.
"On showing up Eko, Prince Ado and his Army were more than got. The Aworis requested that the Bini Prince remain and turn into their pioneer. Ado conceded to the condition that they give up their power to the Oba of Benin, to which the individuals concurred. Hearing this, the King of Benin gave his authorization for Prince Ado and the undertaking to stay in Eko.
"The Oba of Benin sent a portion of his boss including the Eletu, Odibo, Obanikoro and others to help his child, Oba Ado in the running of Eko. "From the delegated of Prince Ado as the first Oba of Lagos (at that point called Eko), Lagos filled in as a significant place for slave exchange from which the Aworis, the Oba of Benin and his child the Oba of Lagos and all the youngsters/relatives who took over as his successors for more than four centuries bolstered the exchange. "The Oba of Benin was the leader of the Benin Empire which is the present-day Western, Southern and Eastern cutting edge Nigeria.
The King never obliged anybody to communicate in the Bini language as he accepted everybody was qualified for their own decision of language. The name Eko was given to it by the primary ruler of Lagos, Oba Ado, the youthful and lively Prince from Benin. Eko was the land presently known as Lagos Island, where the ruler castle was assembled. "The royal residence is called Idugaran signifying "royal residence based on pepper ranch"
Oba Ado and the warriors from Benin together with the early Bini's pioneers in Eko and the Awori individuals settled in the southern piece of Eko called "Isale Eko". "Isale actually implies base". More likely than not been utilized to show downtown (as in downtown Lagos."Until the coming in of the Benin's 1300AD, Lagos geological limit was Lagos terrain, Lagos Island, the seat of the Oba of Lagos at that point comprised of a pepper homestead and angling post. Nobody was living there.
"Around 1450 AD a few Yorubas who hailed from Isheri in Ogun-state and Ekiti were permitted by the King to settle in Eko during a war, they arrived in a huge numbers subsequently outperforming the quantities of the Awori's and Bini's. (Thus Yorubas guarantee to possess Eko because of their numbers). "Oba Ado went gaga for a lovely lady whose father was Awori and mother a little girl to one of the boss; they had two children and furthermore a girl Erelu Kuti, who conceived Ologun Kutere
http://news-af.feednews.com/news/detail/5e5ea631b4a739e2ef4a6df3667a7062?country=ss&language=en&share=1&client= Yes you are right this the true story , this is the kind of the same story that my maternal grandmother told me, while my father told me the same thing too, but my but my father was told by his great grandfather 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Olu317(m): 12:20am On Mar 06, 2020 |
youngbabaj: The Oba of Lagos, His Royal Highness, Oba Rilwan Akiolu, has at long last told the world by means of a recorded account and foundation the genuine proprietors of Nigeria's financial capital city of Lagos and parts of neigbouring Benin Republic. Lagos, he stated, has a place with the Great Benin Kingdom and has never been a piece of Yoruba land. This was contained in an announcement gave and marked by the Lagos Monarch which was discharged from his royal residence.
The announcement peruses:
"Originating from the royal residence, with what I was told by my late fatherly grandma who is a relative of Oba Ovonramwen Nogbaisi and furthermore perusing from real Historical books, let me share this Knowledge with all of you on Eko/Lagos. "Cutting edge Lagos was established by Prince Ado, the child of the Oba of Benin, Ruler Ado was the first Oba of Lagos, the child of the Bini King, Prince Ado, named the town Eko until the Portuguese pioneer Ruy de Sequeira changed the Maritime town to Lagos, which around then from 1942 was Portuguese undertaking place down the African Coast. "It was a significant focus of the slave exchange until 1851. Lagos was attached by Britain by means of the Lagos arrangement of cession in 1861, finishing the consular period and beginning the British Colonial Period.
The rest of cutting edge Nigeria was seized in 1886 when the Colony and Protectorate of Nigeria were built up in 1914 Lagos was announced its capital because of the battle of the Bini King. "Lagos experienced development preceding the British Colonial standard and significantly progressively fast development during the Colonial principle all through the 1960s, 70s, proceeded through the 80s and 90s till date. On account of the Awori's, Bini's, Yoruba's, vagrants the country over and the world everywhere, as no specific gathering of individuals can take the greatness alone. "Lagos is comprised of Lagoons and rivers. The Lagos tidal pond, Lagos Harbor, five cone springs, Ebute-Metta rivers, Porto-Novo brooks, New trench, Badagry rivulets, Kuramo waters and Lighthouse streams. "The Awori's and Bini's are known to be the primary pioneers of the Eko land. The Awori's are speakers of a particular tongue near that of the Yoruba language with a rich Bini blend. Generally, Awori"s were found in Ile-Ife, they were known to be simply the Bini's who followed their banished Prince, the principal child of the Ogiso (presently called Oba) of the Benin Kingdom, whose progression mother was after his head. "The ousted Benin Prince Izoduwa referred to the Yorubas as Ooduwa (Oduduwa) was made the leader of the Ife individuals because of his forces and devotees from the Great Benin-Kingdom.
"Izoduwa (Ooduwa) was made the principal King of Ile-Ife in 1230 AD. His devotees from his dad's Kingdom in Benin are the present Awori individuals who settled in Eko now called Lagos. "In 1300, the King of Benin-Empire got notification from one of his brokers who was a pilgrim in Eko on how the Bini's were treated by the Awori's who lived in their general vicinity. After hearing this, the King of Benin directed the amassing of a war campaign, drove by his child, Prince Ado, which headed the settlement of the Awori's and requested a clarification.
"On showing up Eko, Prince Ado and his Army were more than got. The Aworis requested that the Bini Prince remain and turn into their pioneer. Ado conceded to the condition that they give up their power to the Oba of Benin, to which the individuals concurred. Hearing this, the King of Benin gave his authorization for Prince Ado and the undertaking to stay in Eko.
"The Oba of Benin sent a portion of his boss including the Eletu, Odibo, Obanikoro and others to help his child, Oba Ado in the running of Eko. "From the delegated of Prince Ado as the first Oba of Lagos (at that point called Eko), Lagos filled in as a significant place for slave exchange from which the Aworis, the Oba of Benin and his child the Oba of Lagos and all the youngsters/relatives who took over as his successors for more than four centuries bolstered the exchange. "The Oba of Benin was the leader of the Benin Empire which is the present-day Western, Southern and Eastern cutting edge Nigeria.
The King never obliged anybody to communicate in the Bini language as he accepted everybody was qualified for their own decision of language. The name Eko was given to it by the primary ruler of Lagos, Oba Ado, the youthful and lively Prince from Benin. Eko was the land presently known as Lagos Island, where the ruler castle was assembled. "The royal residence is called Idugaran signifying "royal residence based on pepper ranch"
Oba Ado and the warriors from Benin together with the early Bini's pioneers in Eko and the Awori individuals settled in the southern piece of Eko called "Isale Eko". "Isale actually implies base". More likely than not been utilized to show downtown (as in downtown Lagos."Until the coming in of the Benin's 1300AD, Lagos geological limit was Lagos terrain, Lagos Island, the seat of the Oba of Lagos at that point comprised of a pepper homestead and angling post. Nobody was living there.
"Around 1450 AD a few Yorubas who hailed from Isheri in Ogun-state and Ekiti were permitted by the King to settle in Eko during a war, they arrived in a huge numbers subsequently outperforming the quantities of the Awori's and Bini's. (Thus Yorubas guarantee to possess Eko because of their numbers). "Oba Ado went gaga for a lovely lady whose father was Awori and mother a little girl to one of the boss; they had two children and furthermore a girl Erelu Kuti, who conceived Ologun Kutere
http://news-af.feednews.com/news/detail/5e5ea631b4a739e2ef4a6df3667a7062?country=ss&language=en&share=1&client= May you never know truth for this lie peddling on NL. Is Olusi ruling housw a Bini name ? Just look at this toddler. Do Bini even have a language that's well known in real world outside Edo land ? Classical liar. Smh |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by youngbabaj(m): 3:20pm On Mar 06, 2020 |
Olu317: May you never know truth for this lie peddling on NL. Is Olusi ruling housw a Bini name ? Just look at this toddler. Do Bini even have a language that's well known in real world outside Edo land ? Classical liar. Smh Sorry......whatever ure going through in life, just don't give up,,,, the lord is on ur case 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Olu317(m): 9:24pm On Mar 06, 2020 |
youngbabaj:
Sorry......whatever ure going through in life, just don't give up,,,, the lord is on ur case Just imaging this dehydrated Edo boi? Enjoy your ignorance. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by youngbabaj(m): 9:33pm On Mar 06, 2020 |
Olu317: Just imaging this dehydrated Edo boi? Enjoy your ignorance. Eyaaaaaaah I'm from anambra state to be precised. ....................God help u |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by jades5050(m): 10:49pm On Mar 07, 2020 |
Olu317: Just imaging this dehydrated Edo boi? Enjoy your ignorance. Please kingly go and ask Esan man or woman in EDO state the meaning of EKO and before that the word EKO that every body is calling can you tell me the meaning in Yoruba and from which tribe in part of Yoruba land So Olu if you can make your research on this you will understand more and you will stop arguing on this matter 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Obalufon: 5:55am On Mar 16, 2020 |
Benin flown over ijebu to lagos Abi?? bloody liars .. presense of benin in Small area of lagos island is through the portugese explorers that brought some edo chiefs and prince aboard their merchant ship to their lagos trade post ,portuguese had been trading with the aworis and the ijebus before the benin ever set foot in lagos, Idejos own the land, benin is ile-ife colony .Aworis are from ile-ife so making a prince of ife a king in small area of lagos island means nothing which was a wise decision then because of strong trade relationship between benin kingdom and the portuguise which will further enhance trade in lagos island..Idejos are still the owner of the land and kingmaker 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by ralphorb(m): 1:56am On Dec 26, 2022 |
Oba Eleko of Isale Eko is between the BINI and the IJESHA! But firstly, we must ask who own Lagos or probably who owns the land of Lagos. We must also differentiate between Eko, Isale Eko, Lagos Island, Lagos and Lagos State. Sometimes in the early-mid 1400s, an Ile-Ife Prince Olofin Ogunfunminire and his family left the Ife palace, with an instruction of Ifa (Deity Oracle) to place a place a "Plate of Sacrifice" (Awo Ipese Ebo) on the water and sail behind it to where it goes, and wherever it sinks, they should make their settlement and expand. After the long journey following the plate, the plate finally sank at Isheri (the water at Berger-Ogun Kara Bridge), then the name "Awori" came into being: "Awo" (the Plate), "Ri" (Sank). After sometimes, the other wife of Olofin who did not conceive of a child, then because of it, Olofin consulted Ifa, and he was instructed to move further to the bank of big and salty water, there he should stay and his wife would be able to born a child. He then moved further, and got to the place called "Iddo" (m. Settlement) (near the today's Marina water), there his wife was able to give birth to children. One of his sons who was able to swim across the lagoon, down to the down Island, named Aromire (the friend of water), was made the owner of the territory by their father Ogunfunminire, while the extension of the territories shared to siblings Moba (a daughter married to Ikoyi Eso), Iru (Victoria Island today) and Eleguish (Lekki). Therefore, before the death of Olofin Ogunfunminire, he had shared all the territories to his children, including his children-in-laws. Many years after, the Iddo had became the trade center, where the Ijebu, Ilaje, Oyo, Egun and other territories came to trade, while also the Dutch sailed to buy Mable Blocks of Salt, Pepper, Fishes, Ivory, Gin and Cotton. All the trade concentrated at Iddo, as the edges of the market to left and to the right were Farms (Oko/Eko/Iko) of crops and avenue to and from to the Iddo market. Also, downward across the lagoon was also the farm of Aromire, known as Isale Oko/Eko or Iko (Downward Farm), where he had the standing trees of different kind of fruits and peppers which also partially became a market. The Idu-Igaran (Standing of Pepper trees) is of the Pepper Farm, Idu-imota (Stands of Knowing Price/Trade) was farm-to-resellers center in that downward. The Osere trees being used for Ikan (carpentry) to make chair, stools, canoes and other played significant role in concentration of buy and selling in that Idu-Imota that attracted some traders to cross the water to buy on Aromire farm. Osere tree at Igboosere (Osere Forest) used for planks and woods to carve at Onikan (the Carpenters) moved finished products to Iddo market. Sometimes in the mid or late 1600s, which is about two centuries and more than 10th generation of the Olofin Aworis, the Benin sailed in to also trade. During the reign of Omo N'Oba Ohuan who visited the Iddo market, and was so honored. The dispute between a successful trader called Aina in the market and the other rivals, being labeled a "witch"; she decided to take her case to palace of Benin where she reported her case. The Oba of Benin sent his chiefs to mediate and settle the dispute, but on their way, they spotted the woven fishing basket and arrow hook , which they mistook for readiness for war. The chiefs went back to the palace for what they saw, and then the Oba sent his army, led by Aseru, the prince of Benin to conquer Iddo and extensions. Yes, Aseru with his army entered Iddo town, the army attacked and dispersed people, burnt trading stands and stalls, the Iddo city deserted, till they fought down to Isheri. The Olofins fought back, with the help of their in-law from Oyo, Ikoyi Eso (The Army Guards of Oyo means "Ikoyi Eso" ![wink](https://www.nairaland.com/faces/wink.png) , led by Ashipa (m. the Frontier) that considered the Benin invasion as "cheat" on the defenseless people; they joined the Olofin and conquered the Benin army and even drowned prince Aseru in the Isheri water , to death. Ashipa who led the guards from Oyo, took the body of prince Aseru in self-arrest with other Benin army to Benin palace, he was imprisoned in Benin for many months, but was later released and lived in the palace for sometimes, the Oba of Benin gave an instruction with "Royal Drum" given to Ashipa to become an Oba on Isale Eko land, with other appointed chiefs to make the installation of Ashipa as Oba Eleko possible. But yet, the Idejos (Aromire and brothers) did not agree, their term was made clear that: for Ashipa to be an Oba Isale Eleko on the land given to the Benin, their ownership must not pass the of land and space given to them by Aromire as garrisson/base at Iga-Iduganran, that the land, water and fishes on Isale Eko belong to Aromire, they'd also take the 70% of Chieftaincy and the tax collections taken by the Oba in Isale Eko must be shared among the Oba and the Idejos, with other portion taken to Benin. This agreement was not settled for many years, until the death of Ashipa. Late his son Ado, was installed with the agreement of ownership and Obaship. The fall of Oba Eleko from BENIN Lineage to IJESHA Lineage: The Oba Ado, Gabaro, Akinsemonyin and Eletu Kekere were the last Oba that was connected to Oba Bini. The kind of system of Obaship title of Benin is quite different to other Obaship title, mostly among Yoruba kingdoms. The Benin system use the first child to be in line to the throne, while the Yoruba system uses the system of all princes are entitled, taken the princes name to Ifa (Oracle), Ifa trim them down to, then the other princes vote. This is the case of Eletu Kekere who did not have a child during his 5 years reign as Oba Eleko. Erelu Kuti who was the Wife of the Ologun Kutere was the Royal lineage, since she could not become an Oba, his husband Ologun Kutere was installed by the Chiefs, then the Obaship fell into the hand of a descent of an IJESHA, called OLOGUN KUTERE, who fathered the Kosoko, Akitoye, Osinlokun, Idewu Ojulari and Eshugbayii with other wives from Ijebu, also his grandchildren are Dosunmu, Oluwole, Adeniji Adele, Oyekan and Akiolu (his mother was Benin descent and last wife). Eko: - is the consist of Ikoyi, Victoria Island , Ebute Metta, Yaba, Apapa and Isale Eko+ Isale Eko: - Lafiaji, Ita Faaji, Idumota, Idumaagbo, Igbosere, Campos Lagos Island:- Isale Eko, Ikoyi, Oniru (Victoria Island), Lekki Lagos: - Ikeja, Shomolu, Kosofe, Surulere, Mushin, Alimosho, Festac, Agege + Eko, Isale Eko+ Lagos State: +, Ikorodu, Epe, Badagry, Ikeja, Lagos Island (IBILE of Lagos State). Epe: (from Epe to Lekki Chevron) was territory of IJEBU. Ikorodu: (All Ikorodu town was territory of IJEBU REMO Badagry was interchange of French and British for Dahomey and Portnovo (Benin Republic. Portnovo was former Oyo Empire and Yoruba territory). 2 Likes |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by UMUAZEE: 5:14pm On Dec 26, 2022 |
ralphorb: Oba Eleko of Isale Eko is between the BINI and the IJESHA! But firstly, we must ask who own Lagos or probably who owns the land of Lagos. We must also differentiate between Eko, Isale Eko, Lagos Island, Lagos and Lagos State.
Sometimes in the early-mid 1400s, an Ile-Ife Prince Olofin Ogunfunminire and his family left the Ife palace, with an instruction of Ifa (Deity Oracle) to place a place a "Plate of Sacrifice" (Awo Ipese Ebo) on the water and sail behind it to where it goes, and wherever it sinks, they should make their settlement and expand. After the long journey following the plate, the plate finally sank at Isheri (the water at Berger-Ogun Kara Bridge), then the name "Awori" came into being: "Awo" (the Plate), "Ri" (Sank). After sometimes, the other wife of Olofin who did not conceive of a child, then because of it, Olofin consulted Ifa, and he was instructed to move further to the bank of big and salty water, there he should stay and his wife would be able to born a child. He then moved further, and got to the place called "Iddo" (m. Settlement) (near the today's Marina water), there his wife was able to give birth to children.
One of his sons who was able to swim across the lagoon, down to the down Island, named Aromire (the friend of water), was made the owner of the territory by their father Ogunfunminire, while the extension of the territories shared to siblings Moba (a daughter married to Ikoyi Eso), Iru (Victoria Island today) and Eleguish (Lekki). Therefore, before the death of Olofin Ogunfunminire, he had shared all the territories to his children, including his children-in-laws.
Many years after, the Iddo had became the trade center, where the Ijebu, Ilaje, Oyo, Egun and other territories came to trade, while also the Dutch sailed to buy Mable Blocks of Salt, Pepper, Fishes, Ivory, Gin and Cotton. All the trade concentrated at Iddo, as the edges of the market to left and to the right were Farms (Oko/Eko/Iko) of crops and avenue to and from to the Iddo market. Also, downward across the lagoon was also the farm of Aromire, known as Isale Oko/Eko or Iko (Downward Farm), where he had the standing trees of different kind of fruits and peppers which also partially became a market. The Idu-Igaran (Standing of Pepper trees) is of the Pepper Farm, Idu-imota (Stands of Knowing Price/Trade) was farm-to-resellers center in that downward. The Osere trees being used for Ikan (carpentry) to make chair, stools, canoes and other played significant role in concentration of buy and selling in that Idu-Imota that attracted some traders to cross the water to buy on Aromire farm. Osere tree at Igboosere (Osere Forest) used for planks and woods to carve at Onikan (the Carpenters) moved finished products to Iddo market.
Sometimes in the mid or late 1600s, which is about two centuries and more than 10th generation of the Olofin Aworis, the Benin sailed in to also trade. During the reign of Omo N'Oba Ohuan who visited the Iddo market, and was so honored.
The dispute between a successful trader called Aina in the market and the other rivals, being labeled a "witch"; she decided to take her case to palace of Benin where she reported her case. The Oba of Benin sent his chiefs to mediate and settle the dispute, but on their way, they spotted the woven fishing basket and arrow hook , which they mistook for readiness for war. The chiefs went back to the palace for what they saw, and then the Oba sent his army, led by Aseru, the prince of Benin to conquer Iddo and extensions. Yes, Aseru with his army entered Iddo town, the army attacked and dispersed people, burnt trading stands and stalls, the Iddo city deserted, till they fought down to Isheri.
The Olofins fought back, with the help of their in-law from Oyo, Ikoyi Eso (The Army Guards of Oyo means "Ikoyi Eso" , led by Ashipa (m. the Frontier) that considered the Benin invasion as "cheat" on the defenseless people; they joined the Olofin and conquered the Benin army and even drowned prince Aseru in the Isheri water , to death. Ashipa who led the guards from Oyo, took the body of prince Aseru in self-arrest with other Benin army to Benin palace, he was imprisoned in Benin for many months, but was later released and lived in the palace for sometimes, the Oba of Benin gave an instruction with "Royal Drum" given to Ashipa to become an Oba on Isale Eko land, with other appointed chiefs to make the installation of Ashipa as Oba Eleko possible. But yet, the Idejos (Aromire and brothers) did not agree, their term was made clear that: for Ashipa to be an Oba Isale Eleko on the land given to the Benin, their ownership must not pass the of land and space given to them by Aromire as garrisson/base at Iga-Iduganran, that the land, water and fishes on Isale Eko belong to Aromire, they'd also take the 70% of Chieftaincy and the tax collections taken by the Oba in Isale Eko must be shared among the Oba and the Idejos, with other portion taken to Benin. This agreement was not settled for many years, until the death of Ashipa. Late his son Ado, was installed with the agreement of ownership and Obaship.
The fall of Oba Eleko from BENIN Lineage to IJESHA Lineage: The Oba Ado, Gabaro, Akinsemonyin and Eletu Kekere were the last Oba that was connected to Oba Bini. The kind of system of Obaship title of Benin is quite different to other Obaship title, mostly among Yoruba kingdoms. The Benin system use the first child to be in line to the throne, while the Yoruba system uses the system of all princes are entitled, taken the princes name to Ifa (Oracle), Ifa trim them down to, then the other princes vote.
This is the case of Eletu Kekere who did not have a child during his 5 years reign as Oba Eleko. Erelu Kuti who was the Wife of the Ologun Kutere was the Royal lineage, since she could not become an Oba, his husband Ologun Kutere was installed by the Chiefs, then the Obaship fell into the hand of a descent of an IJESHA, called OLOGUN KUTERE, who fathered the Kosoko, Akitoye, Osinlokun, Idewu Ojulari and Eshugbayii with other wives from Ijebu, also his grandchildren are Dosunmu, Oluwole, Adeniji Adele, Oyekan and Akiolu (his mother was Benin descent and last wife).
Eko: - is the consist of Ikoyi, Victoria Island , Ebute Metta, Yaba, Apapa and Isale Eko+ Isale Eko: - Lafiaji, Ita Faaji, Idumota, Idumaagbo, Igbosere, Campos Lagos Island:- Isale Eko, Ikoyi, Oniru (Victoria Island), Lekki Lagos: - Ikeja, Shomolu, Kosofe, Surulere, Mushin, Alimosho, Festac, Agege + Eko, Isale Eko+ Lagos State: +, Ikorodu, Epe, Badagry, Ikeja, Lagos Island (IBILE of Lagos State).
Epe: (from Epe to Lekki Chevron) was territory of IJEBU. Ikorodu: (All Ikorodu town was territory of IJEBU REMO Badagry was interchange of French and British for Dahomey and Portnovo (Benin Republic. Portnovo was former Oyo Empire and Yoruba territory).
Liar!! 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by ralphorb(m): 8:35pm On Dec 26, 2022 |
UMUAZEE:
Liar!!
Debunk which one is Lie. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by geosegun(m): 4:26am On Dec 27, 2022 |
ralphorb: Oba Eleko of Isale Eko is between the BINI and the IJESHA! But firstly, we must ask who own Lagos or probably who owns the land of Lagos. We must also differentiate between Eko, Isale Eko, Lagos Island, Lagos and Lagos State.
Sometimes in the early-mid 1400s, an Ile-Ife Prince Olofin Ogunfunminire and his family left the Ife palace, with an instruction of Ifa (Deity Oracle) to place a place a "Plate of Sacrifice" (Awo Ipese Ebo) on the water and sail behind it to where it goes, and wherever it sinks, they should make their settlement and expand. After the long journey following the plate, the plate finally sank at Isheri (the water at Berger-Ogun Kara Bridge), then the name "Awori" came into being: "Awo" (the Plate), "Ri" (Sank). After sometimes, the other wife of Olofin who did not conceive of a child, then because of it, Olofin consulted Ifa, and he was instructed to move further to the bank of big and salty water, there he should stay and his wife would be able to born a child. He then moved further, and got to the place called "Iddo" (m. Settlement) (near the today's Marina water), there his wife was able to give birth to children.
One of his sons who was able to swim across the lagoon, down to the down Island, named Aromire (the friend of water), was made the owner of the territory by their father Ogunfunminire, while the extension of the territories shared to siblings Moba (a daughter married to Ikoyi Eso), Iru (Victoria Island today) and Eleguish (Lekki). Therefore, before the death of Olofin Ogunfunminire, he had shared all the territories to his children, including his children-in-laws.
Many years after, the Iddo had became the trade center, where the Ijebu, Ilaje, Oyo, Egun and other territories came to trade, while also the Dutch sailed to buy Mable Blocks of Salt, Pepper, Fishes, Ivory, Gin and Cotton. All the trade concentrated at Iddo, as the edges of the market to left and to the right were Farms (Oko/Eko/Iko) of crops and avenue to and from to the Iddo market. Also, downward across the lagoon was also the farm of Aromire, known as Isale Oko/Eko or Iko (Downward Farm), where he had the standing trees of different kind of fruits and peppers which also partially became a market. The Idu-Igaran (Standing of Pepper trees) is of the Pepper Farm, Idu-imota (Stands of Knowing Price/Trade) was farm-to-resellers center in that downward. The Osere trees being used for Ikan (carpentry) to make chair, stools, canoes and other played significant role in concentration of buy and selling in that Idu-Imota that attracted some traders to cross the water to buy on Aromire farm. Osere tree at Igboosere (Osere Forest) used for planks and woods to carve at Onikan (the Carpenters) moved finished products to Iddo market.
Sometimes in the mid or late 1600s, which is about two centuries and more than 10th generation of the Olofin Aworis, the Benin sailed in to also trade. During the reign of Omo N'Oba Ohuan who visited the Iddo market, and was so honored.
The dispute between a successful trader called Aina in the market and the other rivals, being labeled a "witch"; she decided to take her case to palace of Benin where she reported her case. The Oba of Benin sent his chiefs to mediate and settle the dispute, but on their way, they spotted the woven fishing basket and arrow hook , which they mistook for readiness for war. The chiefs went back to the palace for what they saw, and then the Oba sent his army, led by Aseru, the prince of Benin to conquer Iddo and extensions. Yes, Aseru with his army entered Iddo town, the army attacked and dispersed people, burnt trading stands and stalls, the Iddo city deserted, till they fought down to Isheri.
The Olofins fought back, with the help of their in-law from Oyo, Ikoyi Eso (The Army Guards of Oyo means "Ikoyi Eso" , led by Ashipa (m. the Frontier) that considered the Benin invasion as "cheat" on the defenseless people; they joined the Olofin and conquered the Benin army and even drowned prince Aseru in the Isheri water , to death. Ashipa who led the guards from Oyo, took the body of prince Aseru in self-arrest with other Benin army to Benin palace, he was imprisoned in Benin for many months, but was later released and lived in the palace for sometimes, the Oba of Benin gave an instruction with "Royal Drum" given to Ashipa to become an Oba on Isale Eko land, with other appointed chiefs to make the installation of Ashipa as Oba Eleko possible. But yet, the Idejos (Aromire and brothers) did not agree, their term was made clear that: for Ashipa to be an Oba Isale Eleko on the land given to the Benin, their ownership must not pass the of land and space given to them by Aromire as garrisson/base at Iga-Iduganran, that the land, water and fishes on Isale Eko belong to Aromire, they'd also take the 70% of Chieftaincy and the tax collections taken by the Oba in Isale Eko must be shared among the Oba and the Idejos, with other portion taken to Benin. This agreement was not settled for many years, until the death of Ashipa. Late his son Ado, was installed with the agreement of ownership and Obaship.
The fall of Oba Eleko from BENIN Lineage to IJESHA Lineage: The Oba Ado, Gabaro, Akinsemonyin and Eletu Kekere were the last Oba that was connected to Oba Bini. The kind of system of Obaship title of Benin is quite different to other Obaship title, mostly among Yoruba kingdoms. The Benin system use the first child to be in line to the throne, while the Yoruba system uses the system of all princes are entitled, taken the princes name to Ifa (Oracle), Ifa trim them down to, then the other princes vote.
This is the case of Eletu Kekere who did not have a child during his 5 years reign as Oba Eleko. Erelu Kuti who was the Wife of the Ologun Kutere was the Royal lineage, since she could not become an Oba, his husband Ologun Kutere was installed by the Chiefs, then the Obaship fell into the hand of a descent of an IJESHA, called OLOGUN KUTERE, who fathered the Kosoko, Akitoye, Osinlokun, Idewu Ojulari and Eshugbayii with other wives from Ijebu, also his grandchildren are Dosunmu, Oluwole, Adeniji Adele, Oyekan and Akiolu (his mother was Benin descent and last wife).
Eko: - is the consist of Ikoyi, Victoria Island , Ebute Metta, Yaba, Apapa and Isale Eko+ Isale Eko: - Lafiaji, Ita Faaji, Idumota, Idumaagbo, Igbosere, Campos Lagos Island:- Isale Eko, Ikoyi, Oniru (Victoria Island), Lekki Lagos: - Ikeja, Shomolu, Kosofe, Surulere, Mushin, Alimosho, Festac, Agege + Eko, Isale Eko+ Lagos State: +, Ikorodu, Epe, Badagry, Ikeja, Lagos Island (IBILE of Lagos State).
Epe: (from Epe to Lekki Chevron) was territory of IJEBU. Ikorodu: (All Ikorodu town was territory of IJEBU REMO Badagry was interchange of French and British for Dahomey and Portnovo (Benin Republic. Portnovo was former Oyo Empire and Yoruba territory).
This sounds so convincingly genuine and very detailed. I'll go with your version of Lagos history. You did justice to this. Well done. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by UMUAZEE: 4:40am On Dec 27, 2022 |
ralphorb:
Debunk which one is Lie. Everything is a lie.. A revisionist edit. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by christistruth01: 2:19pm On Dec 27, 2022 |
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Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by christistruth01: 2:23pm On Dec 27, 2022 |
Sammy07:
Only the LAGOS ISLAND Not Lagos Island O! Lagos Island belings to the Yoruba Awori The Oba of Lagos Domain was between Idumota and Obalende Markets and the Land belonged to the Yoruba Awori Aromire family And Erelu Kuti was the MOTHER of Oba Olugun Kutere who was the son of the Ijesha Alagba Also the first Oba of Lagos was an Awori Man who was the Ashipa of Isheri his son became Oba Ado |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by christistruth01: 2:35pm On Dec 27, 2022 |
ralphorb: Oba Eleko of Isale Eko is between the BINI and the IJESHA! But firstly, we must ask who own Lagos or probably who owns the land of Lagos. We must also differentiate between Eko, Isale Eko, Lagos Island, Lagos and Lagos State.
Sometimes in the early-mid 1400s, an Ile-Ife Prince Olofin Ogunfunminire and his family left the Ife palace, with an instruction of Ifa (Deity Oracle) to place a place a "Plate of Sacrifice" (Awo Ipese Ebo) on the water and sail behind it to where it goes, and wherever it sinks, they should make their settlement and expand. After the long journey following the plate, the plate finally sank at Isheri (the water at Berger-Ogun Kara Bridge), then the name "Awori" came into being: "Awo" (the Plate), "Ri" (Sank). After sometimes, the other wife of Olofin who did not conceive of a child, then because of it, Olofin consulted Ifa, and he was instructed to move further to the bank of big and salty water, there he should stay and his wife would be able to born a child. He then moved further, and got to the place called "Iddo" (m. Settlement) (near the today's Marina water), there his wife was able to give birth to children.
One of his sons who was able to swim across the lagoon, down to the down Island, named Aromire (the friend of water), was made the owner of the territory by their father Ogunfunminire, while the extension of the territories shared to siblings Moba (a daughter married to Ikoyi Eso), Iru (Victoria Island today) and Eleguish (Lekki). Therefore, before the death of Olofin Ogunfunminire, he had shared all the territories to his children, including his children-in-laws.
Many years after, the Iddo had became the trade center, where the Ijebu, Ilaje, Oyo, Egun and other territories came to trade, while also the Dutch sailed to buy Mable Blocks of Salt, Pepper, Fishes, Ivory, Gin and Cotton. All the trade concentrated at Iddo, as the edges of the market to left and to the right were Farms (Oko/Eko/Iko) of crops and avenue to and from to the Iddo market. Also, downward across the lagoon was also the farm of Aromire, known as Isale Oko/Eko or Iko (Downward Farm), where he had the standing trees of different kind of fruits and peppers which also partially became a market. The Idu-Igaran (Standing of Pepper trees) is of the Pepper Farm, Idu-imota (Stands of Knowing Price/Trade) was farm-to-resellers center in that downward. The Osere trees being used for Ikan (carpentry) to make chair, stools, canoes and other played significant role in concentration of buy and selling in that Idu-Imota that attracted some traders to cross the water to buy on Aromire farm. Osere tree at Igboosere (Osere Forest) used for planks and woods to carve at Onikan (the Carpenters) moved finished products to Iddo market.
Sometimes in the mid or late 1600s, which is about two centuries and more than 10th generation of the Olofin Aworis, the Benin sailed in to also trade. During the reign of Omo N'Oba Ohuan who visited the Iddo market, and was so honored.
The dispute between a successful trader called Aina in the market and the other rivals, being labeled a "witch"; she decided to take her case to palace of Benin where she reported her case. The Oba of Benin sent his chiefs to mediate and settle the dispute, but on their way, they spotted the woven fishing basket and arrow hook , which they mistook for readiness for war. The chiefs went back to the palace for what they saw, and then the Oba sent his army, led by Aseru, the prince of Benin to conquer Iddo and extensions. Yes, Aseru with his army entered Iddo town, the army attacked and dispersed people, burnt trading stands and stalls, the Iddo city deserted, till they fought down to Isheri.
The Olofins fought back, with the help of their in-law from Oyo, Ikoyi Eso (The Army Guards of Oyo means "Ikoyi Eso" , led by Ashipa (m. the Frontier) that considered the Benin invasion as "cheat" on the defenseless people; they joined the Olofin and conquered the Benin army and even drowned prince Aseru in the Isheri water , to death. Ashipa who led the guards from Oyo, took the body of prince Aseru in self-arrest with other Benin army to Benin palace, he was imprisoned in Benin for many months, but was later released and lived in the palace for sometimes, the Oba of Benin gave an instruction with "Royal Drum" given to Ashipa to become an Oba on Isale Eko land, with other appointed chiefs to make the installation of Ashipa as Oba Eleko possible. But yet, the Idejos (Aromire and brothers) did not agree, their term was made clear that: for Ashipa to be an Oba Isale Eleko on the land given to the Benin, their ownership must not pass the of land and space given to them by Aromire as garrisson/base at Iga-Iduganran, that the land, water and fishes on Isale Eko belong to Aromire, they'd also take the 70% of Chieftaincy and the tax collections taken by the Oba in Isale Eko must be shared among the Oba and the Idejos, with other portion taken to Benin. This agreement was not settled for many years, until the death of Ashipa. Late his son Ado, was installed with the agreement of ownership and Obaship.
The fall of Oba Eleko from BENIN Lineage to IJESHA Lineage: The Oba Ado, Gabaro, Akinsemonyin and Eletu Kekere were the last Oba that was connected to Oba Bini. The kind of system of Obaship title of Benin is quite different to other Obaship title, mostly among Yoruba kingdoms. The Benin system use the first child to be in line to the throne, while the Yoruba system uses the system of all princes are entitled, taken the princes name to Ifa (Oracle), Ifa trim them down to, then the other princes vote.
This is the case of Eletu Kekere who did not have a child during his 5 years reign as Oba Eleko. Erelu Kuti who was the Wife of the Ologun Kutere was the Royal lineage, since she could not become an Oba, his husband Ologun Kutere was installed by the Chiefs, then the Obaship fell into the hand of a descent of an IJESHA, called OLOGUN KUTERE, who fathered the Kosoko, Akitoye, Osinlokun, Idewu Ojulari and Eshugbayii with other wives from Ijebu, also his grandchildren are Dosunmu, Oluwole, Adeniji Adele, Oyekan and Akiolu (his mother was Benin descent and last wife).
Eko: - is the consist of Ikoyi, Victoria Island , Ebute Metta, Yaba, Apapa and Isale Eko+ Isale Eko: - Lafiaji, Ita Faaji, Idumota, Idumaagbo, Igbosere, Campos Lagos Island:- Isale Eko, Ikoyi, Oniru (Victoria Island), Lekki Lagos: - Ikeja, Shomolu, Kosofe, Surulere, Mushin, Alimosho, Festac, Agege + Eko, Isale Eko+ Lagos State: +, Ikorodu, Epe, Badagry, Ikeja, Lagos Island (IBILE of Lagos State).
Epe: (from Epe to Lekki Chevron) was territory of IJEBU. Ikorodu: (All Ikorodu town was territory of IJEBU REMO Badagry was interchange of French and British for Dahomey and Portnovo (Benin Republic. Portnovo was former Oyo Empire and Yoruba territory).
The Oba of Lagos (Isale Eko) is of Ijesha paternal lineage but an Awori King since Lagos is on Awori Land in the Awori Kingdom except for some minor corrections this is the Authentic Version of Lagos History to which all the Obas in Lagos State and it's surroundings all agree Oba Ado was an Awori Man from Isheri and he had a Benin Princess Mother Badagry ,Seme,Porto Novo Area was also under the Alafin of Oyo the Oba Soji of Porto Novo signed a Treaty with the French because he didn't favour the British after they had angered him by Bombarding Porto Novo at almost the same time as Lagos in order to end the Slave trade After the Berlin Conference the British and French allowed the agreement to Stand and so Porto Novo fell under France Till today Porto Novo's Oba is still a Traditional Subject King of the Alaafin of Oyo Erelu Kuti was the mother of Ologun Kutere who had an Ijesha father called Alagba 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by christistruth01: 6:29pm On Dec 27, 2022 |
UMUAZEE:
Everything is a lie.. A revisionist edit. In your entire life have you ever seen Oba of Benin dragging Lagos with the Yorubas ? Do you think he doesn't know his Domain? Lagos is 100% Yorubaland |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by UMUAZEE: 11:12pm On Dec 27, 2022 |
christistruth01:
In your entire life have you ever seen Oba of Benin dragging Lagos with the Yorubas ?
Do you think he doesn't know his Domain?
Lagos is 100% Yorubaland In your entire life have you seen the monarchy of England dragging Nigeria with Nigerians? They know their Domain now. Point is, Lagos once belonged to Benin. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by ralphorb(m): 1:10am On Dec 28, 2022 |
Oba of Lagos does not have territory in Lagos Island, its only Idu-Iganran land gifted to him as base, that plots of lands his highest territory. The Oluwa of Lagos (Lord of Lagos) an Awori is actually an Over-Lord in Lagos over the Oba Eleko. Oluwa Amodu Tijani was even more respected by the King of England, King George V, the father of Queen Elizabeth. He was even the closest friend of Herbert Macaulay, the prime minister of Nigeria, who the Awolowo, Zik and Saudana were looking up to, that they could not do anything without his approval. Even the land, from UAC and Church of Christ at Isale Eko, thats where the territory of Oniru started from, later they moved their palace to that of Mekunwe, where ferries and traders were paying to cross to and fro, 5 cowries as toll, I'm talking about Five Cowries Creek Ferry Park in Victoria Island today. Then later the British chased them again, where they finally moved the palace to Makoko village, called Iru Estate today. Sammy07:
Only the LAGOS ISLAND 1 Like
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Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by christistruth01: 5:04pm On Dec 28, 2022 |
UMUAZEE:
In your entire life have you seen the monarchy of England dragging Nigeria with Nigerians? They know their Domain now.
Point is, Lagos once belonged to Benin.
Lagos never belonged to Benin It has always belonged to the Yorubas Unless you mean it as in Benin once belonged to Ile Ife historically Badagry and Seme were ruled by the Alaafin of Oyo and the Egbas of Abeokuta conquered and ruled all of Lagos except Lagos Island which they couldn't be bothered to take and the Ijebu areas of eastern Lagos yet I never heard your type mention a word about it The Ijebus conquered Lagos Island and drove the remnants of the Benin into the Tiny enclave of Isale Eko as an act of Mercy instead of drowning them in the Lagoon since there was nowhere for then to escape to If you consider all the above history irrelevant why are you keen to mention Benin? Again in your life have you ever seen Oba of Benin dragging Lagos with the Yoruba Do you think he doesn't know all the above history? To round it all up Lagos is indigenous Yoruba Aworiland Anyone who tries to tell you Lagos is not Yorubaland is a liar Take it to the bank 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by ralphorb(m): 8:03pm On Dec 28, 2022 |
"EKO" means "Farm" in Awori dialect. Regular/General Yoruba dialect call it "OKO". Just like "Eba-Odan", general Yoruba call it "Ibadan", so Eko, Oko, Iko, r'Eko, Egbe, all these they are Yoruba language with different subgroups of dialect, referring to "Farm". Lagos Island was not the main "Eko", its the "Iddo" that all the harvests from the farms used to gather to sell, as getting to "Iddo" then, the left and right of Iddo were farms, so people coming Oyo, Ijebu, Egba and many other places before the Dutch arrival used to call it what the Awori call it as 'r'Eko", which means going to farm. The downward part to the other farm of pepper and woods is referred to as "Isale Eko", meaning the downward side of the Farm. But people that keep asking, what is the meaning of Edo, Ado, Esan, Benin or Onitsha, Anambra, Owerri, Warri ![](/faces/huh.png) ? jades5050:
Please kingly go and ask Esan man or woman in EDO state the meaning of EKO and before that the word EKO that every body is calling can you tell me the meaning in Yoruba and from which tribe in part of Yoruba land So Olu if you can make your research on this you will understand more and you will stop arguing on this matter The Esan people in Benin refer themselves as Yoruba, not Edoid, they were carved into Bendel State from Ondo by the Federal government in the 70s. The Esan people are from Ile-Ife, so their language should be Yoruba, and would probably speak close dialect with Ondo, Ijesha and Ilaje. So tell me what is Farm called in Benin? |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by UMUAZEE: 8:46pm On Dec 29, 2022 |
christistruth01:
Lagos never belonged to Benin It has always belonged to the Yorubas
Unless you mean it as in Benin once belonged to Ile Ife historically
Badagry and Seme were ruled by the Alaafin of Oyo and the Egbas of Abeokuta conquered and ruled all of Lagos except Lagos Island which they couldn't be bothered to take and the Ijebu areas of eastern Lagos yet I never heard your type mention a word about it
The Ijebus conquered Lagos Island and drove the remnants of the Benin into the Tiny enclave of Isale Eko as an act of Mercy instead of drowning them in the Lagoon since there was nowhere for then to escape to
If you consider all the above history irrelevant why are you keen to mention Benin?
Again in your life have you ever seen Oba of Benin dragging Lagos with the Yoruba
Do you think he doesn't know all the above history?
To round it all up Lagos is indigenous Yoruba Aworiland
Anyone who tries to tell you Lagos is not Yorubaland is a liar
Take it to the bank You can continue to lie to yourself.. Historically, Lagos was Benin territory. You can never change history. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by christistruth01: 9:01pm On Dec 29, 2022 |
UMUAZEE:
You can continue to lie to yourself.. Historically, Lagos was Benin territory. You can never change history.
Lagos was never Benin Territory but Yoruba Awori Territory Are you talking about all of Lagos or Isale Eko because there is a Huge difference and even Isale Eko is 100% owned by the Yoruba Awori So which part of Lagos did the Egbas and Ijebus conquer and Control because it was still under them when the British Arrived Isale Eko is from Idumota to Obalende is that your Lagos you are talking about because even Victoria Island and Lekki are Ijebu territory 1 Share
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Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Nobody: 9:12pm On Dec 30, 2022 |
This matter has already been settled with proof and @christistruth was there, by the way, @christistruth is such a big liar that he should change his name.
Lagos and it's environs were part of a precolonial country called Benin Kingdom/empire whose leader is called the Oba of Benin. The Oba of Lagos was directly appointed into his position by the Oba of Benin. 1 Like |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by AreaFada2: 9:45pm On Dec 30, 2022 |
Ghostwon821: This matter has already been settled with proof and @christistruth was there, by the way, @christistruth is such a big liar that he should change his name.
Lagos and it's environs were part of a precolonial country called Benin Kingdom/empire whose leader is called the Oba of Benin. The Oba of Lagos was directly appointed into his position by the Oba of Benin. There is no doubt about the above. Anybody can say what they want nowadays but history is quite clear. The proverb goes that "Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown". As regards, what the Oba did or didn't do in the 1990s, we can all have our opinions. But life was a bit different then, history was slightly less politicised back then. The balance that the fine balance has had to maintain since before restoration in 1914 cannot be imagined by regular people. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Nobody: 9:51pm On Dec 30, 2022 |
AreaFada2:
There is no doubt about the above. Anybody can say what they want nowadays but history is quite clear.
The proverb goes that "Uneasy lies the head that wears the crown". As regards, what the Oba did or didn't do in the 1990s, we can all have our opinions. But life was a bit different then, history was slightly less politicised back then. The balance that the fine balance has had to maintain since before restoration in 1914 cannot be imagined by regular people. What is wrong with that ugbe guy, why is he constantly attacking the Oba of Benin, I'm starting to think he might be that YouTube troll or one of his followers. Each comment of ugbe which I have read in several years is either attacking The Oba, either attacking Edo people. And he is extremely clueless of whatever he talks about. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Nobody: 9:55pm On Dec 30, 2022 |
Sammy07:
Only the LAGOS ISLAND In your dreams
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Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by UGBE634: 1:01am On Dec 31, 2022 |
Ghostwon821:
What is wrong with that ugbe guy, why is he constantly attacking the Oba of Benin, I'm starting to think he might be that YouTube troll or one of his followers. Each comment of ugbe which I have read in several years is either attacking The Oba, either attacking Edo people. And he is extremely clueless of whatever he talks about. Our take on Issues with the Oba personalities certainly would differ , we have our opinions on these people. We are humans and not robots. |
Re: Lagos Belongs To The Great Benin Kingdom: OBA OF LAGOS by Nobody: 1:11am On Dec 31, 2022 |
UGBE634: Our take on Issues with the Oba personalities certainly would differ , we have our opinions on these people. We are humans and not robots. Shhhhh, you belong to the gutters. |