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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 12:26pm On Jan 02, 2023
Sources connected to senior players are under the impression this will be Jorginho’s last season with Chelsea.

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@SJohnsonSport
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 12:28pm On Jan 02, 2023
embarassed can he tell me whether potterball will cook

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:33pm On Jan 02, 2023
Kantebets:
ogbeni mourinho took unknown Porto to UCL glory in 2004

A team wey no get shishi

Potter is overrated like other English coaches


Don't let us start the new year making incorrect statements up and down pls. You can hype your Mourinho in peace without bringing false equal equivalent into it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Havertz10: 12:36pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


Go and ask Real Madrid galacticos team of 2000s how creative they were after losing Makelele

Or ask Chelsea team of 2016 how creative they were ontop having assist master Fabregas in midfield while battling just to plug leaks

Na person wey done balance dey show artistry

Creativity starts from the back, starts from staying in the game with a competitive midfield, and not having attacking players plugging leaks as midfield is being overrun. When the team is balanced and not chasing shadows, then you can talk about creativity

Na the same Manure attacking players we saw last season, just adding Casemiro has given them balance and allowed them to focus on the offensive part of the game, not chasing shadows backward to cover an unbalanced midfield
Preach!!!!

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:42pm On Jan 02, 2023
swiz123:


Funny how city use an escort Rodri and are as creative in attack as any team can be while having good defensive solidity. Even funnier how Tottenham who parade two of your favourite robust DMs are leaking through both holes.

A team not creating chances, DM's fault; a team conceding goals, DM's fault; a team failing to score, DM's fault; a team not making UCL, DM's fault. Maybe we should just sign DMs and sack the coach cause we wouldn't need any afterwards.

I did not know Pep was managing Chelsea. Afterall we saw the same with Busquets that would make neophytes like you hail Busquets only to see Busquets collecting 3,4,8 goals regularly when removed from Pep system

And don't compare your useless Jogginghoe to Rodri. Rodri would never hide from the ball, he can ride players off his back regularly and controls the ball in order not to be exposed on counterattack, and he has body strength to claim the ball in duels, long legs and height that limit his weakness only to foot races which Kyle Walker is kept back as a safeguard against. Your Jogginghoe does none of that, except when he is playing against Crotone. He is weak on foot races, weak on using his body to claim the ball, weak on jumping to win the ball, weak on riding players on his back, weak on absolutely everything but belleface back-to-sender football which means more pressure and more ways to hurt our midfield, not just foot races

Remind me Spurs position in relation to ours again. Spurs prioritise three weak defenders over an extra body in midfield, the midfield are doing their job despite being outnumbered most games, their problem lies in a defence that doesn't contribute at all to ball retention like a back 3 is supposed to.

I told you clown Jogginghoe will never succeed consistently with a back 4 and Tuchel catching niggas by surprise with a new tactical formation for 4 months has no bearing on Jogginghoes quality

You got bamboozled into buying Jogginghoe hype after years of deeming him useless, based on a system that even Billy Gilmour thrived in. Jogginghoe whole Chelsea career boils down to 4 months from Feb to May 2021. That shows you are clueless and could not seperate the tactical protection afforded Jogginghoe for those 4 months from his ability, which I consistently highlighted. Kantes runs took so much pressure off him in that system, we could see how useless he was when Kante got injured and opposition stopped worrying about tracking Kante and attacked Jogginghoe. You got so carried away, you were tipping Chelsea to win league at the start of last season, putting hope in that useless passenger

Since 2018, the only position that hasn't been changed is Jogginghoe. It's easy to know our biggest problem. Nobody will buy anything you have to sell about your useless Jogginghoe in 2023. We have seen more than enough.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 12:43pm On Jan 02, 2023
swiz123:


I hope you know that Kovacic is the other midfielder we have. Abi who are the other useless midfielders? I just hope you don't mention a loanee who just saw shirt recently.

Loftus Cheek, Zakaria, Havertz are midfielders in my eyes.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:43pm On Jan 02, 2023
FBS:

This is my issue with most English trained players - most of them lack football sense. It's just not there and I think it's got do with overtraining a certain aspect of football and mentality. That instinct, flexibility, creativity, wow moments are just lacking or at least not consistent enough.
See that Johnson from NottsForest, he could be a world beater but again lacks that "my... my... my..." ability.



You are spot on everything you said here. Nice observation though. You still dey own me gift for coming first though. grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 12:46pm On Jan 02, 2023
Jodera:
Oga Havertz10 go dey look you one eye with the first bolded While Oga Popi go deh look you him own eye with the 2nd bolded.

But Apostle, this wan wey you no deh enter mountain for Chelsea matter again unlike before, wetin dey happen na? And na now Chelsea needs you pass to do dry 40days fasting. grin


grin grin grin grin

And truth to God,i just did that. grin .

God I am so predictable.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 12:52pm On Jan 02, 2023
Skimpledawg:

We were an eye sore yesterday. Mount especially was stinking up the place. Our midfield was so non-existent that one could fix up a stage for P-Square brothers to perform "e get as e dey do me".

I won't even fault CSO that much because he was doing the job of old man Azpi as well. Our play was just so disjointed; Sterling not knowing how to keep the ball, Puli falling down more than he stood up with the ball and Havertz running like a headless chicken.

With TT, we used to create many chances and hour issue was conversion. Now we don't even know how to create again talk more of conversion.

Tuuueeeh!
Well said Apostle and e be like the thing don tire everybody. It was an eye sore.
CSO though is a different matter. Awoniyi owned him from the 1st minute.
Silva only came through with his experience.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 1:00pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


Go and ask Real Madrid galacticos team of 2000s how creative they were after losing Makelele

Or ask Chelsea team of 2016 how creative they were ontop having assist master Fabregas in midfield while battling just to plug leaks

Na person wey done balance dey show artistry

Creativity starts from the back, starts from staying in the game with a competitive midfield, and not having attacking players plugging leaks as midfield is being overrun. When the team is balanced and not chasing shadows, then you can talk about creativity

Na the same Manure attacking players we saw last season, just adding Casemiro has given them balance and allowed them to focus on the offensive part of the game, not chasing shadows backward to cover an unbalanced midfield
It's like you saying you MUST be close to the goal to score which is not entirely true though the chances are higher.

Spurs have 2 midfielders that you promote as the best thing since milk shakes but this is what Conte has to say


Antonio Conte laments lack of creative players at Tottenham
"We have different characteristics. We don't have many players who are really good to beat the man. We don't have many creative players in our team. For sure today was really difficult to find space in the first half.


Surely Conte knows what he is talking about.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ShitStain(m): 1:03pm On Jan 02, 2023
Donjazet2:


Nice one! Which region are you voting in and I guess Obi is your preferred candidate right?
Abuja. Yes Obi
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:06pm On Jan 02, 2023
FBS:

It's like you saying you MUST be close to the goal to score which is not entirely true though the chances are higher.

Spurs have 2 midfielders that you promote as the best thing since milk shakes but this is what Conte has to say


Antonio Conte laments lack of creative players at Tottenham
"We have different characteristics. We don't have many players who are really good to beat the man. We don't have many creative players in our team. For sure today was really difficult to find space in the first half.


Surely Conte knows what he is talking about.

Spurs play with 2 DM and 3 centrebacks. Creativity for them lies in removing one centreback and placing him in AM. You swapped an AM for a centreback, and you expect creativity? They don't even have a RWB that adds to the creative mix unlike James, nor a right winger at present with Kulusevski injury

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Bimffo(m): 1:12pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


Spurs play with 2 DM and 3 centrebacks. Creativity for them lies in removing one centreback and placing him in AM. You swapped an AM for a centreback, and you expect creativity? They don't even have a RWB that adds to the creative mix unlike James, nor a right winger at present with Kulusevski injury


Conte will rather eat shït than stop using 3 CBs.

Never seen Conte successful with 2 CBs.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 1:14pm On Jan 02, 2023
popizaino:




You are spot on everything you said here. Nice observation though. You still dey own me gift for coming first though. grin
lol.
Would you like a virtual trophy? grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 1:18pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


Spurs play with 2 DM and 3 centrebacks. Creativity for them lies in removing one centreback and placing him in AM. You swapped an AM for a centreback, and you expect creativity? They don't even have a RWB that adds to the creative mix unlike James, nor a right winger at present with Kulusevski injury

You think Conte does not know his players for him to say that he lacks a creative player? shocked
It's pretty similar to Tuchel saying we don't need midfielders.
Keep denying the obvious.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:21pm On Jan 02, 2023
FBS:

You think Conte does not know his players for him to say that he lacks a creative player? shocked
Keep denying the obvious.

When has Conte ever sought creativity in his two holding DM

If you know Conte, you will know he is talking about wingbacks and wingers, especially his whole rightside (RWB and RW) which is nonexistent

FYI, Hojberg has 9 GA this season, so what are you saying?

First you don't know how Conte thinks, and mischaracterised his statement, then you point fingers at the wrong department. Same Conte that dropped Fabregas for Matic in his midfield 2 is the one you think is talking about central midfield creativity?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 1:22pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


When has Conte ever sought creativity in his two holding DM

If you know Conte, you will know he is talking about wingbacks and wingers, especially his whole rightside

FYI, Hojberg has 9 GA this season, so what are you saying?

First you don't know how Conte thinks, and mischaracterised his statement, then you point fingers at the wrong department. Same Conte that dropped Fabregas for Matic in his midfield 2 is the one you think is talking about midfield creativity?
So why is he complaining about that now? You know Conte better than Conte himself?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 1:22pm On Jan 02, 2023
popizaino:



grin grin grin grin

And truth to God,i just did that. grin .

God I am so predictable.
Lol... It's not about you being predictable sha. I think it's just a general thing people do when someone is insisting that something is right and you know is wrong (or vice versa) but you don't want to chook mouth first grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:23pm On Jan 02, 2023
FBS:

So why is he complaining about that now? You know Conte better than Conte himself?

He is complaining his RWB and RW - EMERSON and GIL. Take that to the bank

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 1:25pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


He is complaining his RWB and RW - EMERSON and GIL. Take that to the bank
This is like Tuchel saying we don't need midfielders. Just laughable.
But yeah just because James is our only "creative" outlet you are assumed Conte is talking about the same thing. But here, read it yourself.
https://www.90min.com/posts/antonio-conte-laments-lack-of-creative-players-tottenham
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 1:27pm On Jan 02, 2023
instead of the likes of chilwell,fofana to recover Na loftus cheeks SMH, anyways,he play rwb
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 1:28pm On Jan 02, 2023
Bimffo:


Conte will rather eat shït than stop using 3 CBs.

Never seen Conte successful with 2 CBs.
Preach or allow him to be playing his fantasy football league.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:31pm On Jan 02, 2023
FBS:

This is like Tuchel saying we don't need midfielders. Just laughable.
But yeah just because James is our only "creative" outlet you are assumed Conte is talking about the same thing. But here, read it yourself.
https://www.90min.com/posts/antonio-conte-laments-lack-of-creative-players-tottenham

Your brain thinks any talk of creativity is talking about central midfield. Conte brain thinks of creativity from wingbacks and wingers. Take that to the bank. He is responsible for what he said, not how you interpreted it, besides Hojberg has 9 GA this season, so you are barking up the wrong tree.

Conte expects his midfield two and back 3 to be solid, and his wingbacks and wingers to be explosive. Conte will drop a Fabregas from midfield just to ensure this, you are yarning megedefegede out of your own wonky interpretation of what he said. Don't you know Conte at Chelsea, at least you should know Conte from InterMilan that will drop Eriksen for workmen midfielders and rely on Hakimi for creativity. Conte has no business with what you are assuming, you are making uninformed assumptions about his statement

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by youngZee23: 1:40pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ballzproblem2:
angry not only jorginho, Gallagher, loftus cheeks, even koulibaly that just came,if not the rot will continue
Don't let mount,havertz and sterling deceive u oh with their one year wonders..add them in ur list
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 1:41pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


Go and ask Real Madrid galacticos team of 2000s how creative they were after losing Makelele

Or ask Chelsea team of 2016 how creative they were ontop having assist master Fabregas in midfield while battling just to plug leaks


Na person wey done balance dey show artistry

Creativity starts from the back, starts from staying in the game with a competitive midfield, and not having attacking players plugging leaks as midfield is being overrun. When the team is balanced and not chasing shadows, then you can talk about creativity

Na the same Manure attacking players we saw last season, just adding Casemiro has given them balance and allowed them to focus on the offensive part of the game, not chasing shadows backward to cover an unbalanced midfield

I will never agree with your stand about our 2015/2016 seasons, our problem was never the midfield leaking or what have you,but our attackers not knowing how to find the back of the net.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 1:55pm On Jan 02, 2023
youngZee23:
Don't let mount,havertz and sterling deceive u oh with their one year wonders..add them in ur list
I did not add mount became,no way he is getting sold , English bias will not let Chelsea, only mount is blocking our chance to find potential creative Midfield and. an energetic attacker ,tufia ,as for Sterling ,he just came,I don't see the club selling him for now ,but he has to go
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 1:59pm On Jan 02, 2023
Was havertx ever a midfielder?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 1:59pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


Your brain thinks any talk of creativity is talking about central midfield. Conte brain thinks of creativity from wingbacks and wingers. Take that to the bank. He is responsible for what he said, not how you interpreted it, besides Hojberg has 9 GA this season, so you are barking up the wrong tree.

Conte expects his midfield two and back 3 to be solid, and his wingbacks and wingers to be explosive. Conte will drop a Fabregas from midfield just to ensure this, you are yarning megedefegede out of your own wonky interpretation of what he said. Don't you know Conte at Chelsea, at least you should know Conte from InterMilan that will drop Eriksen for two solid midfielders and rely on Hakimi for creativity. Conte has no business with what you are assuming, you are making uninformed assumptions about his statement
Classic. Always contradicting yourself. You know very well that Conte plays 3 at the back yet you just suggested for Conte to remove 1 defender to allow for creativity. How is that going to work oga Mr "Expert I'm in Conte's head"?

And you are wrong, creativity can be anyway on the pitch but more traditionally in the middle - the likes of KBD, Modric are testaments to this but keep yarning opaks. I get your time today.

FYI - Besides James, Ziyech and Kova could be used as creative outlets too but they are not used properly or lack the consistency.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:07pm On Jan 02, 2023
FBS:

Classic. Always contradicting yourself. You know very well that Conte plays 3 at the back yet you just suggested for Conte to remove 1 defender to allow for creativity. How is that going to work oga Mr "Expert I'm in Conte's head"?

And you are wrong, creativity can be anyway on the pitch but more traditionally in the middle - the likes of KBD, Modric are testaments to this but keep yarning opaks. I get your time today.

I no get your time jor. I dey go Liverpool now. I suggested one way of introducing creativity by changing formation, while you are blaming the wrong players within his current formation for his statement, and I told you within his current formation, he is talking about his rightside players.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 2:13pm On Jan 02, 2023
Ibime:


When has Conte ever sought creativity in his two holding DM

If you know Conte, you will know he is talking about wingbacks and wingers, especially his whole rightside (RWB and RW) which is nonexistent

FYI, Hojberg has 9 GA this season, so what are you saying?

First you don't know how Conte thinks, and mischaracterised his statement, then you point fingers at the wrong department. Same Conte that dropped Fabregas for Matic in his midfield 2 is the one you think is talking about central midfield creativity?


You're spot on here but i think Conte has a thing for multitasking his DM,they play as CM and sometimes even drive the ball forward into attacking third like a typical AM. His supporting striker drop sometimes into the third half but conte's pattern barely want to use the ball in the third half of the pitch so the activity of his SS is usually limited because majority of the balls goes to the wing.

Omo i hated Conte's pattern but not as much as i hate Sarri. Maybe God knows i wouldn't survive if Sarri had remained as our coach for another year and that's why he took him out.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 2:14pm On Jan 02, 2023
airmark:
We need strong players in the team, especially in the Midfield. Physicality is zero.

That Kone is there, and will add solidity to our middle. The likes of Azpi, Jorginho, Loftus Cheek, need to be shipped away, as they have tried, time to go.

Mount needs to work hard as he was below par today in the middle. Pulisic needs to hit the gym as he is looking meek on the ball in some moments, while Sterling should start learning Arabic as he should join Ronaldo in Saudi Arabia soon.

Koulibaly running like a pregnant woman, was terrible. I don't mind trying Chalobah and even introducing Badiashile against Man city. We need to present a solid team on Thursday.

We have problems with many players. Recruitment over the years has been shocking. We would have a chance to correct that starting from this window.


From what I have seen, I think he is not tactical, and especially not bold and inventive enough. When you are playing badly, you need a manager who is bold enough to make strong decisions and try new things.

But I have a feeling Potter is weak, doing the same thing over and over, thinking things will change. This is important, seeing that he is doing the exact same thing TT did, but expecting different results.

I expected to see a radical change, new training and set up during the world cup gap to transform the side.... but I see even though he got a life line, he's completely wasted it. He just went to a back 4.

For instance, it's clear to see that Pulisic and Sterling are not creating enough, but I think Potter is afraid to cut their minutes and try something new. He has Hutchinson and Hall sitting on the bench game after game, and he's there probably shitting his pants, wondering what Sterling and Pulisic might feel about not playing in the game.

Play Chukwuemeka, or Casadei, or even Hall in midfield.....just something for a change.

I fear he's not the type of manager you give a long term project to.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 2:16pm On Jan 02, 2023
Jodera:
Lol... It's not about you being predictable sha. I think it's just a general thing people do when someone is insisting that something is right and you know is wrong (or vice versa) but you don't want to chook mouth first grin


I don't have that strength to start quoting any statements way i no gree with. That time is gone.

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