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Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 5:53pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:Maybe you personal interpretation of what is written as the verses you keep lifting out of context clearly don't say what you think to all reading. So, again, make your question regarding what is written clear and concise. ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 5:54pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:My Limitation? You mean all this while,all the scripture I have posted, you believed them to have been said by me? ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 5:57pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: though she was excluded from the agreement that was Jesus Christ, she benefitted from it ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:00pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I don't even need to explain anything or give personal interpretation. Reading it should lead you to where I am going based on the he definitions you have given so far on Jews, Samaritan, Gentiles and Dogs. You can choose to look away. |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:00pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
litigator: These are thought provoking questions that requires honest and sincere answers! I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses, will you like if i join in the ongoing discussion? |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:03pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I meant just like you stated earlier using seems on black and white thinking and thoughts of GOD Isaiah 55: 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. You know the my in that scriptures ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:03pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:You would need to explain to me what you mean by an unnatural descendant, and why one who is a dog is considered by you as such classification. ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:04pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:You mean all of them don't say what they are written as stating? ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:05pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: The scripture stated natural descent not unnatural descent. Are the DOGS of NATURAL DESCENT? I don't want to believe you are lost already within this discussion ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:07pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Those scriptures are meant for you to sort the various terms you defined earlier. |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:07pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:I may have used the word "seemed" but clearly, God's Old Law, and Jesus Christ, His New Covenant Law, teaches that anyone who commits even one sin transgresses the whole Law i.e. is a Sinner, right? That sounds pretty black and white to me. Or do you not see that at all? So, it has never been about me and my "seemed" but that decreed by God Himself. ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:08pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:Really? which ones? what scriptures? ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:10pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Did you see me state that anyone who transgress the law is not a sinner? Read and digest this well, do you see anything like sinning or sinners here? I meant just like you stated earlier using seems on black and white thinking and thoughts of GOD Isaiah 55: 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. You know the my in that scriptures |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:10pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:Which scripture? You would need to explain to me what you mean by an unnatural descendant, and why one who is a dog is considered by you as such classification. ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:11pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Go back to the conversation so far I have had with you on this thread and read them carefully. Simple! |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:12pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:Meaning that contrary to your claims so far, you accept God's Law to be black and white, right? Those who transgress the Law are sinners and those who do not transgress the Law are not sinners, right? ![]() Black and white! ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:13pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:Again, I am not a mind reader. You didn't ask any questions to at least explain your understanding so I can't do anything with all of the random clippings you keep posting. ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:14pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Have you defined DOGS on this thread? The answer is yes? I cited a verse that states it is not only by NATURAL DESCENDANT you get to be born of God. I don't know where you see me state unnatural descendant ![]() ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:17pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Show me where I stated God's law is not black and white first? I am waiting? |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:18pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Simple, go back and read. ![]() ![]() ![]() Did you see me state that anyone who transgress the law is not a sinner? Read and digest this well, do you see anything like sinning or sinners here? I meant just like you stated earlier using seems on black and white thinking and thoughts of GOD Isaiah 55: 8 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. 9 “As the heavens are higher than the earth,so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts. You know the my in that scriptures Please read well ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:19pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:But you have yet to explain what connection a dog has to those listed as unnatural descendant by Paul? You have yet to in fact make clear your private understanding of that stated by Paul in that clipping you lifted. For the umpteenth time, I am not a mind reader. I grasp what Paul is expressing there, but what I don't grasp is the twist you are attempting to give to his statements. ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:20pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:Oh, oK! Maybe I misunderstood then since when you said not all is Black and white, I thought you said that in reference to God's Law and scripture. ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:22pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
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Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:26pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: I will repeat again go back to my discussion with you, pick them one by one and see who or what stands for DOG and who or what stands for NATURAL DESCENDANT. The natural descent are even citations from the book of John not Paul. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Nobody: 6:27pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
MaxInDHouse: Hmmm! This is good. I used to study with your folks during my University days and we used to break bread as brethren. They allowed me to ask all my Sunday school questions and satisfy all my pent-up curiosities from Sunday school and Scripture Union. I lost contact when I moved, business and school take a toll and the rest is history. I will be grateful to have you join the discourse. Shalom |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:29pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:Again... But you have yet to explain what connection a dog has to those listed as unnatural descendants by Paul? You have yet to in fact make clear your private understanding of that stated by Paul in that clipping you lifted. For the umpteenth time, I am not a mind reader. I grasp what Paul is expressing there, but what I don't grasp is the twist you are attempting to give to his statements. ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:31pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: You will do that assignment yourself since you decided to skip it in your responses. Go back and read and read it well. |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Kobojunkie: 6:32pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey:Well, I take it you are done with this then. Have a nice day! ![]() |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:34pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
litigator: I believe you understand or understood the following 1. EXEGESIS 2. EISEGESIS 3. NEWSPAPER EISEGESIS as it applies to Bible why do biblical dogma and doctrines change |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by achorladey: 6:35pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: Long before this time. I already got what I wanted from you before you started seeking clarifications. Enjoy the rest of your day. |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Nobody: 8:16pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
achorladey: Well! I won’t say yes cos I still a student of learning. I do akin these tools of interpretation like the 3 basic rule of legal interpretation. It almost the same. |
Re: If Church Doctrines And Dogmas Are Biblical, Why Do They Change? by Nobody: 8:21pm On Jan 03, 2023 |
Kobojunkie: What do you mean by natural and unnatural decedents? Did Obed bridge that gap by birthing Boaz who was of mixed blood and thus the linage down to Jesse, David, Solomon, Joseph and Jesus were all of mixed blood? You can look this up in Ruth 2. I await your response |
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