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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by pheranmie(m): 11:04pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Evening guys This is my fourth month in the uk and its has really been challenging. I just had a baby and my school as well so all the cost has been on me and I have to work at least 10hrs daily so I can meet up with payment of school fees and house rent and the rest. I discovered care and support living is the order of the day here in uk which that what I am into already and we mostly do it mostly for the sponsorship aspect too.please are there not other jobs ( just askin) that offers sponsorship which will pay better. I nearly slip into depression because of all this especially when I got here and the job that seems available was just care . But I have no choice and I have to fend for my family. Please I need some clarification and enlightenment . Thanks |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 11:33pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Which area of cybersecurity are you considering: technical, coding/analytics, support, non-technical, consulting, management. Are you starting as a rookie in IT generally. Any vertical industry experience outside of IT What catches your passion. Directing, investigating, developing, building, documenting These might shape what direction you might drift towards. Inbtw, some PM are hands-on, essentially performing as technical manager. Panasonic101: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by dupyshoo: 11:46pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Sorry to hear about your ordeal. Please try to take things easy. Regarding sponsorship, there are loads of other jobs that offer sponsorship. In fact, it is recently that you get to see most students doing care jobs. What course are you studying? You can start by searching for graduate jobs within your field. A lot of companies sponsor people on their grad scheme. Getting a sponsorship job now is not a do or die affair as there is the option of graduate visa. Please, I will repeat again, take things easy. Everything will work out well. pheranmie: 4 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 11:49pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Panasonic101: Better in what context? If your goal is sponsorship, then cyber security In my view, anything "management" is trickier for an immigrant to secure sponsorship 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Evagreenfields: 11:51pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
Yes I did, stock fish, dried fish, crayfish, spices, egusi, uziza (blended) etc iyatrustee: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by semmyk(m): 11:51pm On Jan 04, 2023 |
I can't agree more. Keep integrity high, keep excellent amazing work, amaze tons of experience (over and above IT support), codely #exit Amarathripple0: AgentXxx: koonbey: 3 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 12:03am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Zahra29:I’d have to disagree though. Anyone can get sponsored regardless of their role/title. To be honest, It’s really not tricky, just be good at your job. Heck even Heavenly Desserts give their Assistant Managers visa sponsorship if required. I think this narrative is the reason why people are running to only one industry. Times have changed hun Edited to include an old email I received from a recruiter from one of the banks here, for a Project Management role. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by pheranmie(m): 12:06am On Jan 05, 2023 |
dupyshoo: My wife is the one schooling and what is this graduate visa you are talking about ?are you talking about post study? What other sector offer sponsorship I will like to know the details as I only of care and support living for now. Thanks for the concern. To hear this self I feel better and loved .God bless you 5 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by dupyshoo: 12:21am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Yes, graduate visa used to be known as post study visa. All other sectors offer sponsorship. There are about 68,000 companies that have the licence to sponsor. What is your area of specialisation? That will help to determine the area you should focus on. pheranmie: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by AgentXxx(m): 12:31am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Thanks bro,I really do appreciate your time and I hope they bring it up in the probation review because the fear of having to move to a new job scares him as He has been blessed with a nice manager who is always on a lookout for him and kinda push him to be a better of myself plus friendly colleagues/environment only the pay kinda saddens him and that happens when He went for lunch with an intern and he highlighted his pay even though He still blame himself for not negotiating better earlier.God bless you … koonbey: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by AgentXxx(m): 12:37am On Jan 05, 2023 |
This make sense and Lessons have been learnt, Your advise succinct and also what I will be doing and advise people to do. Don’t be so desperate to accept offers, Know your worth push your luck so well. This people get money, na we Dey pity them with our naija mentality of Can they pay? Or hope they won’t disqualify you when you mention big amount. Na armed robber I wan be like this going forward Amarathripple0: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by AgentXxx(m): 12:40am On Jan 05, 2023 |
They did oo but I believe the whole fault lied in the guy’s inability to negotiate as they did give room for it but naija mentality no gree am Amarathripple0: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Goke7: 12:41am On Jan 05, 2023 |
pheranmie: My personal advice, take things one step at a time. You can look at the shortage skills list and see what occupations are relevant in the UK now. The truth is the IT sector and the medical sector ranks highest. The job you're even doing now except you don't want to grow in the medical sector is an opportunity to learn new skills even if it's physiotherapy which is on the shortage occupation list in the medical sector. There are entry levels especially in the NHS even if it's band 2, grow and develop. Your visa now including post-study if you do it gives you at least 3 years to still be in the UK, If you use just 1.5 years to develop yourself in a skill that's in the shortage list, don't you think you will be in a better position for sponsorship? Most people are just in a hurry after few months to get sponsorship and they end up doing jobs they regret. Please don't put much pressure on yourself. Develop yourself first and strategise. The good thing about the UK is that whatever skill and credentials you develop will also be relevant in other developed countries. You just need to be open-minded 9 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 12:54am On Jan 05, 2023 |
AgentXxx:I understand jare, it’s both the excitement of getting the job as well as the fear of the company pulling the offer. It happens, so he shouldn’t beat himself up. Plus he’s building his CV so it’s still a win at the end of the day. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 12:56am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Amarathripple0: In *theory* yes, any role can be sponsored. But in practice, some roles are much easier to sponsor than others. A *good* cyber security practitioner would gain sponsorship easier/faster than a *good* IT project manager. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Panasonic101: 12:59am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Zahra29: Yes, that’s the goal oo |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by AgentXxx(m): 1:02am On Jan 05, 2023 |
This look like a great plan . Thanks Sir semmyk: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Panasonic101: 1:02am On Jan 05, 2023 |
semmyk: Yes starting as a rookie in IT. Which would you advise for a start? |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Goke7: 1:05am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Zahra29: Very true, I agree 100%. Specialisation is key, in the IT space, technical roles like cyber security, cloud engineers, data scientists, get sponsorship easier than non technical roles like project manager. 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by pheranmie(m): 1:09am On Jan 05, 2023 |
dupyshoo: I studied Chemical engineering while in Nigeria |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Goke7: 1:14am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Amarathripple0: Looking at the mail you put up here, it's a trick some companies use to hoodwink you when they see you still have some good time left on your current visa cos they won't even bother if they see your remaining time on your visa is too low. By the time you start working with them and you open that discussion they will come up with some company policy excuse. My personal advice if anyone get employed on this basis, use one eye to still be looking elsewhere to avoid stories that touch cos any serious company will sponsor you right away along with the offer 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 1:14am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Zahra29:Your initial post was not specific to IT though hence my response but yea, you are right! IT PMs are everywhere. I dey go sleep, goodnight Lol |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 1:15am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Please remember that Project Management cuts across industries not just the tech space. But let’s agree to disagree Zahra29: Goke7: |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by pheranmie(m): 1:18am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Goke7: Looking at the skills I have and what I have taken time to develop is business. I studied chemical engineering while I was in Nigeria but I didn’t practice so I gathered up and opened a gadget store. Though the Health line is also what I love back in those jamb days. Infact I choose a science course but you know naija na they went ahead and give me chemical engineering.so advice me as a pro boss which of the areas do you tink it’s best for me even if it’s will make me do some online courses I wouldn’t mind. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 1:21am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Goke7: I agree, specialists like the above are far fewer in the UK. My last project was for a large UK insurance company and most of the hard core techie roles were outsourced to Indians. But management type and non/soft tech positions - they had no problems filling those in house. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Amarathripple0: 1:21am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Goke7:Hmmm this company at the time did not know anything about my visa status though as I did not disclose. I only asked if they offered sponsorship for the role I applied for and that was their response. But yea I get what you are saying. Better safe than sorry! |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Zahra29: 1:25am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Amarathripple0: I know, that's why I specified IT project manager. A project manager in construction might probably have a different experience simply because there is a general shortage in that industry. However there is no real shortage of IT project managers in the UK |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Goke7: 1:37am On Jan 05, 2023 |
pheranmie: You're already working in the health sector, try and develop there. You didn't practice as a chemical engineer so you have no experience along that line which is what is needed in the UK and not degrees. With some experience in care that you have, try looking for health care support roles in the NHS, the idea is to get in so you have opportunity to be trained and get qualifications that you won't need to pay for. There are different specialisations within the NHS as a support worker like mental health, physiotherapy and so many. Imagine just spending just a year there. Any qualifications you get are world class recognised in many parts of the world. For me this may be cheapest route. If you want to go the IT way then you may need to spend some money to get trained in some specialised courses like cyber security or cloud engineering. For me except you don't need visa sponsorship doing courses on project Mgmt or business analysis may not be ideal and cost effective. Other people here may have better advice but this is just my little contribution 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by dupyshoo: 1:38am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Check the link below for grad chemical/process jobs. You can also check the likes of BP, Centrica, Eon, Ineos, Siemens, Emerson among others. I am sure these companies sponsor cos my friends got sponsorship from the companies. https://www.gradcracker.com/search/chemical-process/engineering-jobs pheranmie: 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by Nobody: 3:10am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Amarathripple0: Can't emphasise this enough. I'm all for people taking any job in the short-term to meet pressing needs but people really need to leave some time in their schedules to optimise their CVs and experience and apply to the jobs they really want/jobs in their field. With enough time and consistency, sponsorship is available everywhere. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by mizGene(f): 3:39am On Jan 05, 2023 |
Zahra29:I don't know about construction, but in the IT PM industry I know sponsorship is as easy as ABC, VERY easy. |
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 2) by eniola1010(m): 6:18am On Jan 05, 2023 |
hustla: Its what i do too. I dont even do any paperwork at all. Sometimes i go dey ask myself. Do these people like throwing money away or what. Cus the people i support dont even need supporting and i do basically nothing. |
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